Habs Crumble
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The Habs powerplay that won them their first game in Carolina didn’t get the job done in Toronto. A weak PP combined with mediocre goaltending let the Leafs climb back from a 3-1 deficit to win 4-3 in overtime.
The Habs let the Leafs back in the game and did not convert on a powerplay with less than 2 minutes remaining in the third. They also couldn’t convert on a 4-3 powerplay in overtime. You can’t burn that many chances like and still expect to win.
Vesa Toskala was a much better goaltender than Cristobal Huet. Huet struggled for most of the game, seemingly always out of position. Huet also gave up the puck with an awkward clearing attempt that resulted in the tying goal.
Will Carey Price get his first NHL start – or is it still too early yank Huet?
All things considered, 3 out of 4 road points to start the year is not a bad way to begin the season.
- Senet1 : I want the Bruins to win anyway so that we pick ahead of them in the Draft.
- Senet1 : Muller you got your wish NYR won game 4. So the Bruins will have to play another game at least.
- Senet1 : He may just bring all three of the kids up.
- muller93 : MB is forced to go out and get a big D-man. Missing Emelin for almost half the season is the last thing we needed to hear. Now going out and getting a big D-man is a MUST!!!
- muller93 : Now for the Fu**en Bruins who have no business even being in the second round are going to get a nice rest. Yes the same goons who took out one of best D-man for 6 more months. There is NO Fu**en justice. Just venting--Ok i feel better now.
- muller93 : So pissed to see the Rangers lay down and play like total crap. How did the Rangers beat the Caps? This team is playing with no heart--a must win and can only muster 23 shots...PATHETIC !!!
- muller93 : Senet I did see Galchenyuks goal--Made a great move for the game winner. You can see the kid has so much confidence.
- goalie : If Rangers get swept I wonder if Tortorella will get his walking papers? Or Glen Sather? They have tons of 'talent' but zero wins in this series.
- goalie : It's really too bad we lost to the Sens as we would have played the Rangers and the way NYR are playing we would have beat them too. If only. If only!
- Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
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October 7, 2007 at 1:00 pm
Habs need Price and Chipchura in their lineup, if they want to make the playoffs. And get Brisebois, (piece of S@#$%&&t ) off this team!
He will kill this team! This team needs a big strong centerman! Are you listening Gainey(lame duck GM)? As long as Carbo(moron), and Gainey are coach, and GM, this team will go nowhere, except into LAST PLACE IN THE LEAGUE!!
October 7, 2007 at 3:47 pm
What do you think Gainey can do? Pull a really big skilled centre out of his *** magically. Those guys are not easy to come by and the majority of them love playing in the states. Get used to the team that’s on the ice now
October 7, 2007 at 4:39 pm
Everyone complains about Brisebois and his play. What about the S!@tY play by Markov. He gave the puck up how many times last night? He was on the ice for the last 3 Leafs goals and his play (or lack there of ) lead to 2 of the Leafs goals. I am not saying Markov is a bad player (most games he is the best D-MAN) but come on guys lets put the blame where it belongs and last night it was not with Brisebois.
October 7, 2007 at 4:40 pm
I agree Habs#1,the only way you get a big center is via trade from a team that really struggles out of the gate. Free agents don’t seem to want to play in Montreal. Gainey will have to give up a prospect plus a top line player. But right now people Montreal and Toronto will finish 9 and 10 at best with their present rosters. They also need a better communicator as a coach. I watched as Carboneau shook his head and rolled his eyes at a player because he wasn’t in proper position during a faceoff. If your players don’t know their positions at the professional level,then man ship them back to the minors. Bob Gainey also has to get a little more agressive when pursuing players ala Kevin Lowe.Do what is ever necessary to get the players . You have enough of a future,you better start thinking of the present or Gainey you won’t see the 08/09 season.
October 7, 2007 at 5:43 pm
I agree with you, Jaker 1. That’s why I call Gainey a lame duck GM. He must be more aggressive. If an unrestricted player doesn’t want to play here, then you need to approach restricted players, just like Lowe did. Lowe knows his job is on the line, and Gainey should feel the same way. If this team finishes the same or worse as last year, I think Gainey should be fired. Carbo should be gone by Xmas, because he has no idea what he’s doing, and absolutely NO COMMUNICATION WITH HIS PLAYERS! He has a huge ego, and arrogant. You can’t put Smolinski on the 4th line! They got him to score goals, not to be on the checking line. And Kostopoulos on the 3rd line? What the hell are you thinking?
Georges was much better than Brisebois,(who only played 1 game), yet Georges isn’t playing. This team is is such disarray because of Carbo’s antics.
Carbo is NOT AN NHL COACH, AND NEVER EVER WILL BE!
October 8, 2007 at 9:56 am
Anyoneelse havig a loof trouble enerin posts o tis ite? just look at my ost—y speling isno that bad!!
October 8, 2007 at 11:07 am
If Grabovski doesn’t put some offence together very soon, considering he’s totally clueless on defence – Chipchura or Murray will be in very soon..
He looked like a 14 year old Peewee Center trying to defend against Mats Sundin..
October 8, 2007 at 11:34 am
Couldn’t agree more with you HB. Grabovski looks lost and intimidated out there on the ice. He’s not ready for the bigs. The smart move would be to send him down, put Pleks between Kovy and Kostitsyn and have Chipchura in the lineup.
October 8, 2007 at 12:18 pm
Why is it that the Habs hired an ex-player to coach when there are many coaches with lots of experience that would do a BETTER JOB than Carbo. This is professional hockey, a team with a huge fan base, who are dying to support a winning team. This isn’t a place where an ex-player gets to earn some experience.
I’m tired of people giving Gainey full support (In Bob we trust). He is not a saviour, he has done more harm than good (eg no outstanding free-agent signings, firing a good coach and then hiring you’re buddy to replace… HELLO).
If I were the owner, I would hire Patrick Roy (with all his arrogant, show-boating ****). The Habs would have more success with him than with Gainey…
October 8, 2007 at 12:28 pm
Re t#6,no prbems ere NigEiski.Lol….Thans-you,for bringing this problm up,I thoght H.P. mit of just screwedmeon is new laptop just bought,ol.Habsblg fix yr ste forfuk sakes!!!lol
October 8, 2007 at 4:25 pm
they played well,just gave the puck up too many times!
October 8, 2007 at 5:01 pm
re. rubberman i agree completely with your carbo assessment (although he was a smart player and will eventually become a smart coach) but to replace gainey with roy? you say we lack management experience, last i checked roy is coaching/owning/managing in the qmjhl (not even the ahl) long after gainey was winning cups with the stars. the canadiens havent drafted well for years before gainey got there. since hes been here its been getting better, we have prospects im looking forward to seeing (we did win the calder cup). it takes time to rebuild through drafts and gainey is our man, for now.
October 8, 2007 at 5:26 pm
Hey but at least Kovalev drilled a post…yet again. If pipe hits were goals, my goodness, what stats he’d have…
October 8, 2007 at 6:27 pm
I enjoy the games this year in a different way than last year: last year, i started expecting the Habs to win, but this year I’m just enjoying the hockey and I certainly don’t expect them to win at all. Is it disappointing that they lost to the Leafs? It was last year, but this year they’re basically an AHL team with a few 2nd (Koivu and Kovalev) and 3rd line (Plekanac, Ryder) NHL players thrown into the mix. But it’s a young team, and that’s the exiting part. My only real disappointment so far this year has been Latendresse–who’s been playing like a meat-head in his limited ice time.
Huet has been mediocre, but we shouldn’t get upset with losing this year–or if we do, we had better get used to it. The Leafs are simply a better team this year–but that’s fine. We’ll finish 9-12th and the Leafs will finish 8-10th, but their “best years” (lol) are behind them, and ours are ahead of us.
October 8, 2007 at 7:11 pm
I am a habs fan, but I must admit that I get very upset at people who make of the leafs. After all, the leafs ALWAYS BEAT THE HABS, and the leafs are a MUCH BETTER TEAM THAN THE HABS! So what that the leafs haven’t won a cup since 1967?
The habs won’t win a cup for the next 40 years, either!
So people, only make fun of teams that are WORSE THAN YOU! The only teams I see finishing ahead of the habs, are Florida and Atlanta!
Grow up people, and look at reality! The habs are a BAD BAD hockey team!
no defence, no offence, no PP, and with Huet, no goaltending! And unfortunately, not 1 decent coach! And a laid back, pacifist(lame duck) GM!
I expect this team to lose, so I’m not too concerned when they prove me right!
October 8, 2007 at 8:21 pm
We can all see how much of a diehard Habs fan(cough) you are Chevy4ch, with your lame *** posts. I know everyone has an opinion but you; you should keep yours to your self. Remember the team is very young. They will eventually grow. No goaltending in Huet(all-star), Price(AHL playoff MVP), Halak. No we don’t have decent goaltending. Why doesn’t everyone stop bitching about how bad the Habs are when they have only played 2 games.
October 8, 2007 at 8:23 pm
I too wonder why Plecks is on the third line though.
October 8, 2007 at 8:57 pm
I’d like to point out that Latandresse is a young
Cam Neeley give him room!!!!!Don’t want to make the same mistake as Vancouver made!H.B. is Vista clashing wwith yur site ??????? Something is gone rongdude!
October 8, 2007 at 9:17 pm
A young cam neely? ahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahah Your kidding right?
October 8, 2007 at 10:11 pm
Every player has a role. Do you know Latendresse’s role is? As a goon!
Because he is, without doubt, THE DUMBEST PLAYER I HAVE EVER SEEN!
He can’t skate, he can’t score, and he can’t check! But he is great at taking
bad penalties, all the time. He thinks with his butt! He belongs in the minors, now and for good! That guy should NEVER have been put on the habs roster. He doesn’t have a clue what to do. He is NOT AN NHL PLAYER! he is a career minor league player. He reminds me of Chris Nilan, except that Nilan could fight, and Latendresse can’t even do that! What a waste. taking up a valuable spot on the roster, that should be filled by Lapierre or Chipchura!
Do you guys notice how Carbo gives preference to french canadian players?
ie. Brisebois, Latendresse, Bouillon, Dandenault,Begin. And all of them are pure ****!
October 8, 2007 at 11:26 pm
Perhaps Montreal should take a page out of toronto’s book and sign Lindros and Belfore, eh chevy4ch? 2 games in and we’ve got 2 camps: Plan the parade, or fire them all. Gimmie a break. This season will have it’s share of heros and heartbreak, and I for one plan to enjoy them all. GO HABS!
October 9, 2007 at 11:55 am
Same old same old. Dump it in. Cycle. Try for 1 shot. 2 forwards peel back before they can grab a rebound. Try to win 1-0 games. Protect a 2-1 lead going into third. No spirit and they start Lapierre i the minors???
Maybe next year. Bye bye Carbo
October 9, 2007 at 1:48 pm
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October 9, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Hey Chevych4, shut your mouth. You are probably a Leafs fan in Habs clothing. Why are you so pessimistic. It’s only two games into a very young season, no need to jump off the bandwagon. I hate people who MAKE FUN OF THE HABS!! While it may be true(unfortunately) that the Leafs are better than the Canadiens this season, the future is bright in Montreal with the prospects coming up. I see better days ahead and more Stanley Cups, so Chevych4, go screw off!!
Ziman
October 9, 2007 at 3:14 pm
Hey Ziman! Go F@#$%^))OFF!
I’m entitled to my opinion! If you don’t agree, that’s your problem! Everyone is entitled to speak their mind. Show some respect for fellow bloggers!
October 9, 2007 at 3:16 pm
And BTW, I am a HUGE HABS FAN! But, I’m also realistic. I don’t view the world with rose colored glasses on! You should do the same, instead of chastizing people for saying what they believe!
October 10, 2007 at 1:38 pm
Yo Ziman, chill out you hostile moron. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion. Face the facts, some folks are more astute than others and can see that the emporer has no clothes. Who cares if the Habs have played only two games. Anyone can see that their play is a Carbo copy of last year. I’ve been following the Habs for longer than I care to admit, and I share the opinion of many that the Habs are going nowhere with the Gainey/Carbo duo at the helm. Carbo is nothing short of embarrassing. The way he treats his players, he’ll never bring the best out in them. And sure you can say that the Habs have some young prospects, but it has been a along time since the team has been able to inspire and develop their young talent until they are traded to another team where they can suddenly blossom. Gainey is too laid back and quiet. No one is listening to him anymore. No good players want to play in Montreal anymore because of the insane politics and language issues, criminally high tax rates, and belligerent media. Who the hell needs it? Plus the team’s cache has gone the way of the Montreal anglo (left town). True Habs fans who have followed the teamn over the decades have the experience and hockey sense to know that what we today is lame, and shows little promise of excellence. The other teams arond the league are getting better and better, while the Habs are stagnant and stale. The Habs may never achieve great things again. My feeling is that Gainey and Carbo (as awesome as they were on the ice) do not have what it takes to raise the team to the level of it’s former glory. Sad but true. Ziman, I think you optimism is misguided and naive. Now go have a freakin fit over what I just said.
October 16, 2007 at 10:27 pm
Terrible ,terrible,hard to watch ,embarassing ,Florida of all teams ,can`t bear to watch the Habs anymore .We never get the habs here in Ontario ,than when you do they play like this .