Habs / Flyers: Game 1
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If we learned anything from round 1 of the Playoffs, it’s that regular season records mean absolutely nothing.
The Canadiens once again play a team they dominated in the regular season. Undefeated, at home and on the road.
If we learned anything else, it’s expect the unexpected.
Who knows what Philly team will show up? Who knows if Montreal will play with the urgency and intensity that they need? Will they underestimate the Flyers the same way they did the Bruins?
Will the powerplay resume and be the decision maker in this series? Or continue to struggle and be indifferent?
Can Martin Biron be as good or better than Carey Price?
All these and many more questions need to be answered starting tonight in Montreal.
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- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
- Senet1 : Goalie I agree with Avatar. PK is the present and future of this teams defence. I would not even take Staal from Pittsburg unless I had him tied up in a long term contract of a Minimum of 5 years. Also once has to consider the salary difference. Pk is on the move up probably 3M plus for his next contract and then eventually 4-5M if he keeps on improving. He has moved his game up two gears since he came into the league 2 years ago. He now has to move to the next level and I believe he will as w
- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
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April 26, 2008 at 9:30 am
Senet 1
I have been Involved In Hockey for over 40 years and I have never heard of one player being booed everytime he touches the puck ( only habs fans) I wasnt sure if it was because he was good or because he had a bad history with the Canadians while with 0ttawa. Did he hurt a Habs player? whats the bad history?
April 26, 2008 at 9:34 am
I watched Price in the first round, he was awful. The shutout in game seven was due to the habs defense they clogged up the slot and didnt let the Bruins get quality scoring chances. Price let up many soft goals in that series but I hear that he is talented and Im sure that he will improve.
April 26, 2008 at 9:37 am
Chara goes after the small players!! Ha Ha . Everyone on the ice is smaller than him!!
Someone tell me what he did to the Habs while he was with Ottawa and maybe I will understand.
thanks
April 26, 2008 at 12:41 pm
You know, I’m getting tired of people who are either too lazy or too stupid to do their own research and produce facts.
# 286 marblehead
Posted on April 25th, 2008 at 7:53 pm. About ‘Habs / Flyers: Game 1′.
1) booing another countrys national anthem. Shame on you!!
Just as the fans in San Jose did to the Canadian anthem two years ago? Or the fans in New York did during the Team Canada-Team USA World Cup Final several years ago?
This is an old and stupid argument. For one, it’s always a minority of fans that actually does the booing, and such a minority of fans is certainly not restricted to Montreal. Secondly, get over yourself with regard to the national anthem. You didn’t write it, and I’d be interested in hearing your translation of what it actually means. Finally, you’re expressing your anger to a bunch of fans that weren’t even at the game booing anthems – shame on you.
2) Singing *** songs at a hockey game. What kind of Hockey fan does that, this is Hockey!!
Once again, you’ve got some anger issues that you need to work out for yourself.
It is none of your business how the fans of Montreal choose to support their team. None. Do you even know the origin of this song? Do you even know what it means? It doesn’t really matter what your answers are because Habs fan can celebrate their team in any manner that they choose.
3) Destroying your city after a first round win over the 8th seed?
Try doing the minimal amount of research required to get your facts straight. Police concluded that it wasn’t hockey fans at all that participated in the post-game riots, but rather fans from a hip-hop concernt that let out and intermixed with the post-game celebration party. AS you probably know, hip-hop culture is both rebellious and opportunistic. What better opportunity than thousands of fans in the streets to cause a little mayhem.
Biggest Loser fan base in pro sports goes to the Montreal Canadians fans!!!
I love hockey and I respect the Montreal Canadiens even though they are going nowhere but the fans a bunch of losers.
It’s obvious that you are a bitter person with issues, and likely ones that have little or nothing to do with hockey. Shed some of your ignorance and try living in a world that isn’t based on delusions. And for god’s sake, learn some manners before you come to the fan site of another team.
I watched Price in the first round, he was awful. The shutout in game seven was due to the habs defense they clogged up the slot and didnt let the Bruins get quality scoring chances. Price let up many soft goals in that series but I hear that he is talented and Im sure that he will improve.
Now you’re just being retarded. For someone who supposedly has been involved with hockey for 40 years, you certainly know nothing about the game. Price is obviosuly world class, and the booing of top players on opposing teasm has been going on in arenas around the NHL for years. Your ignorance shines through like a diamond in the sunlight here.
You know, marblehead, it seems to me that you are more jealous of the Habs and their fans than anything else. You try to find fault with the players, the fans where it doesn’t exist, and you fabricate negatives where they cannot be found.
April 26, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Marblehead, change your name to MeatHead.
April 26, 2008 at 4:54 pm
303 marblehead
Posted on April 26th, 2008 at 9:37 am. About ‘Habs / Flyers: Game 1′.
Chara goes after the small players!! Ha Ha . Everyone on the ice is smaller than him!!
What Senet 1 meant was that he has a history of going after the smaller (relative to the rest of the league) and less physical opposition.
Regardless, as I said, an opposition team’s player is booed if either a) he has a history with the team whose fans are booing him, b) he in a known pest (i.e. Sean Avery), or c) he is that team’s best player, and thus the fans boo him to throw him off of his game… just as the San Jose fans did to Phaneuf in the first round against Calgary… just as the Edmonton fans did to Pronger after he signed with Anaheim… just as New Jersey fans did with Gomez during the first rounf against New York… and on and on and on.
40 years without a television or access to a newspaper I presume.
April 26, 2008 at 6:02 pm
I have not heard booing of top NHL players everytime they touch the puck for an entire series, sorry.
I have heard boos game after game for an enforcer every time he touched the puck but not for the most talented players.
April 26, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Go Flyers!!!!
April 26, 2008 at 6:33 pm
40 years without a television or access to a newspaper.
The right thing to do, marblehead, would be to apologize for passing judgement on an entire fanbase based upon either unsubstantial evidence or the actions of a few. But I believe that that would be beyond you, ironically.
April 26, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Were you even intending on ackowledging the responses to your hypocritical nonsense above?
Please don’t even bother now. This dialogue is mindless.
April 26, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Ever watch any Flyers home games? It’s so funny how they boo Crosby every time he touches the puck in the Wachovia Center… you halfwit.
April 26, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Hey. wow..a repeat performance of game 1 without the poopy calls. GO FLYERS!!!
April 26, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Question…seriously, what is up with the song that you guys sing? I have found that all NHL teams have some sort of little ritual chant nowadays, even the flyers.
April 26, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Oh, and being that I am born and raised in Philly, if I were ever blessed enough to play in the NHL for the Canadiens or any othe NHL team I doubt that the Philly fans would boo be for not signing with the Flyers.
April 26, 2008 at 11:13 pm
To Joseph
Flyers fans boo crosby because he is a punk. He gets **** started and runs away, he’s kind of hated throughout the NHL. He’s a ****. A brown one. with nuts, and possibly corn as well.
April 26, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Maybe even marshmallows also.
April 26, 2008 at 11:38 pm
What is up with Habs fans trashing Marty. You habs fans seemed like he was terrible before the series. He has showed me a hell of alot more than Price. Huet did too.
April 27, 2008 at 12:20 am
I know why Flyers fans boo him, EFFINFLYERS!!, and I can`t entirely disagree with the reason why, but my point in brining tht up was goofball`s claim that only Habs fans boo players on opposing teams.
April 27, 2008 at 3:29 pm
I got a great idea,why don’t you stupid whinning gameplaying lonely homophobic couchpotato losers and never getting past the second round,punk *** ******* philly fu2kin Flyiers idiots find another home that want’s the joy of dealing with moroons the likes of you,lol…ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ole ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
May 2, 2008 at 12:47 pm
i love the habs i really hope they win the cup this year if the don’t i will have a spaz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!