Habs / Flyers: Game 2
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Sloppy play, unlucky bounces & fluky goals all characterized game one of this series.
The Habs managed a late comeback victory regardless of all that.
What will happen if the Habs or the Flyers execute their game plan effectively?
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- goalie : Didn't get to see the game at all but it's great to see Pacs get a hat trick and fpor Cole to be + 3. When was the last time this team won three games in a row? Great victory -looks like they're giving 100% effort!
- Senet1 : 4-2 win habs
- Senet1 : Gomez scores, Yea!!!
- goalie : As I said yesterday it will be interesting to see what our lame ass GM gets for players he ships out. Bourque is good and he'll help us but I still think we could have gotten more for him and for Halak when he was traded.
- Avatar37 : round those picks occur (probably 3rd).
- Avatar37 : An interesting article. If we slip to the 5th or 7th draft pick, a very interesting case could be made for drafting Galchenyuk. If we wind up with the second or third pick, I'm not sure who I'd draft, because clearly Yakupov is going to be drafted first overall. Our second round pick also becomes interesting, I know I'd take Vasilevski if he were still available. It will also be interesting to see if we can turn some of our veteran players (Moen, Gill, Campoli) into draft picks, and what
- Avatar37 : «link»
- Avatar37 : That is why PG should have waited on trading Cammalleri. Right now, there is a high demand for a top 6 forward, we could have gotten much more than Bourque in return. That isn't a knock against Bourque, but a knock against a knee-jerk reaction trade that didn't maximize our return on a top asset.
- Avatar37 : «link»
- Avatar37 : chips fall where they may. After all, the only difference between finishing 17th and 29th is how good a pick you get in the draft.
- Avatar37 : We currently sit in 26th place in the league. We are 15 points ahead of Columbus, it's safe to bet at this point they will place last. We are, however, only 4 points ahead of Edmonton so it's still wide open as to who is going to finish second last. I still think that it's time to sit the veterans, play the youth, let them get experience, and regroup for next year. I'm not suggesting deliberately tanking like the Penguins, but give all our young players lots of playing time and let the c
- Avatar37 : goalie - If it were not for the play of Cammalleri, we would never have made it out of round 1. Cammalleri played as big a part, if not bigger, than Halak did. Sure, Halak played well, but remember the team collapsed in front of him, making his job much easier. We had lots of blocked shots and the ones that got through were typically from the outside.
- Senet1 : Goalie you are absolutely right, of course the one thing we had the two previous years that won the games that we are losing this year was our power play. If you look at say 10 games that we should have won had we had a similar power play, again we would not be having these conversations. When your PP goes from first to last in the league that is a lot of goals.How many games have we lost this year by one goal. Again poor management who did not prepare for Markov's possible absence.
- goalie : I'll put it another way.... we need more players who are willing to get their noses dirty.
- goalie : Two years ago when our goaltending stole series adn our players suddenly scored the coaches / GM believed that that was our true team . Well time has proven that was not. Though I was very glad to see the Habs knock off some very good teams we were very fortunate. And fortunate that spring was spelled HALAK!
- goalie : The wrst mistake management could possibly make I believe is to say, we played well some games and we believe the team can play to that level more often in the future. This team CANNOT adnb DOES NOT play to a high enough level. Please do not kid yourself mamngement. hat is partially why we're in the lace we are.
- goalie : Senet is correct when he says that if we had more games with a better efort this year we'd likely be in the playoffs. It has been very inconsistent effort but much more than that. We lack big, tough playing and finishing. Never mind fighting for a moment. We did not compete for the pucks nor along the boards nor in front of both nets enough this year. Thus we are in 29th. If the coaching staff doesn't see that then they shouldn't be there.
- Senet1 : Surely Molson is not going to keep him as the GM?
- Senet1 : when he knows he will be fired at the end of the season. Nothing really makes since in this whole process.
- Senet1 : I am not sue why PG has not been fired by now. They could be waiting for another GM to come available at season end, but why would you not set up a committee to manage the team in the short run until a new GM can be named. There is no since in chaning coaches because whoever the GM is he will want to name his own coach. Gainey and a committe of other executives can manage the team through to the trading deadline and onward. What motivation does PG have to making any worthwhile trades when he is
- Senet1 : I am too mch of a competitor to want my team to tank to. However, If these players played like they ae cabable of playing all year we would not be having this discussion right now, we woud be talking about the playoffs and who we would rather meet in the first round.
- rocky : Exactly, and Senet nails it when he says we have not had an elite top 5 in the nhl player since lafleur.
- goalie : I too want the Habs to get the best possible draft this June. We all need SOME hope!
- rocky : He is persona non grata in habville, and a ghost in every sense of the term.
- goalie : It remains a miracle how we have heard from our mighty GM twice since Christmas - the trades involving Spacek and Cammy and those comments were extremely brief. PG just does not cut it in my world. Part of a GMs job is to go public from time to time. PG never does that in fact he's a ghost GM!
- rocky : Its true, there is no honor in that. These guys have only known the ethic of giving it all to win every night. I do not want them to "tank", and they will never do that anyway. I do want them to lose though, as awful as it sounds.
- goalie : Roicky as a good point. We all want the Habs to get a really good draft pick. However, players, coaches etc. also have a keen desire to compete and win. That's why they're playing at the pro level. Thus we can only hope that the team plays some good games and let the chips fall where they may. After the disasterous season we've had let's not lower ourselves adn get involved in any dscussions about 'tanking' games.
- rocky : So long.
- Senet1 : Good discussion rocky, I have to step out for an hour, but may be back later.
- Senet1 : The only way this team comes back to a team with long term potential is to draft a game breaker. Even all the other bad teams have a Stamkos or a player like him. He have some good player so what we need is a Malkin that we can count on 80% of the time to win a game for us.
- rocky : I mean winning will only do them harm that is.
- rocky : It really hurts because my reflexes make me want to cheer like mad, but it will only hurt the team now.
- Senet1 : Yes I have mixed feeling when watching the game. Last night I say here we go again. with our record of shoot losses I did not expect to win that one. Yet I wanted to win real bad?????
- rocky : God, so horrible to sit and hope for losses, but here we are.
- Senet1 : Our problem is we play one out of every 4 games good and therefore, we play well enough to stay on the borderline of a top five pick. If we win three or four in a row we could take ourselves right out of the running.
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April 27, 2008 at 7:11 pm
The world is off its meds again.
April 27, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Sometimes I look forward to getting home and catching up with opinions (both from Habs fans and fans of opposing teams) expressed on this blog, but most of the time finding something worth reading requires sifting through a sea of unintelligible and/or thoughtless garbage.
The internet has provided everyone a voice. It’s a shame that so few actually have something to say.
Thanks to those who have something to say, something worth reading. You guys make this place worth the visit.
April 27, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Stop with the boooo , boo, onl makes them play harder and better and you know of whom I am speaking!!!!
And drop the OLE, OLE, drives me crazy when I hear it – IT’S A EUROPEAN SOCCER CHANT!!!!!!!!!THIS IS NORTH AMERICAN HOCKEY. WE ARE NOT EUROPEANS, I cringe when I listen to that chant in our stadium, let’s get something CANADIAN going…who started the stupid OLE anyway???????? Not us good old Canadian folk, grrrrrrrrr and boos make for better playing and also makes us look like suckeeeeee babies, get over it, who cares, we should just be confident in our present time, whatever. I am so frustrated with the fans, low life I guess, for the most part that’s who follows hockey.
April 27, 2008 at 9:00 pm
OLE:
You must be from Philadelphia, because your use of language and lack of sense fits the profile. When is the last time a team from Philly won anything? seriously. Sixers??? Flyers??? Eagles???? Phillies??? They won one game so what! Their not going to win the series, even on the slight chance they do, they would get swept in the next round. That’s just the Philly way.
April 28, 2008 at 12:12 am
Riberio 2nd in play-off scoring with 11 pts.Has he ever proved people wrong,dam,could of really used him!
April 28, 2008 at 12:13 am
I’ve a question for Philadelphians, and this is not meant as an insult, so cool your heels.
Why was a statue of a fictional character allowed to be placed in front of the Spectrum?
April 28, 2008 at 12:14 am
Ribeiro is the ‘real deal’.
April 28, 2008 at 1:51 am
Post 150:
Flyers outworked the Habs. What game were you watching? Habs Out shot the flers by like 14 shots. They won because they had a couple better shots. And Biron stood on his head. He was good. Well flyyers fans watch out because the Habs are going to come out flying in game 3 and won’t stop till the end. Mark my words.
April 28, 2008 at 3:01 am
Flew out to San Francisco Friday and ran into a couple of Shark fans on the plane. Had my Habs cap on. They looked at it, chuckled to each other, to which I responded, “Maybe we’ll meet in the Finals. If we do, we’ll klick your ***”.
I am not a hero. They were just a couple of short, bl;oated guys. Joke may be on me AND them, based on how the Habs looked Saturday and them dropping the opening home games to Dallas.
Here’s the skinny on Price. When he goes into his crouch, there’s plenty of room above each shoulder, and it’s no secret as both the Bruins and now the Flyers have been shooting mostly high up. That’s just part of the problem. Even in the crouch, Carey can snag the puck on high shots, sight unimpeded. However, the Flyers have been cruising in front of him, screening him at will, as our Canadiens are unwilling, unprepared, or just plain intimidated to move them out of the way.
Tony Bennett may come out with a new version of his greatest hit, that begins with,”Habs left their BALLS, in San Francisco!”
Maybe Carbo should go back to the days of old, and keep the team sequestered from wives and girlfriends during the playoffs. The way they’ve been looking lately, skating like their legs weighed a ton each,makes me wonder if it isn’t a case of “Sugar in the morning, Sugar in the evening,Sugar most any time.”
In other words, NOOKY and HOCKEY is definitely not an example of perfect rhyming.
April 28, 2008 at 6:27 am
Hi Joseph,
The Rocky Statue is purely an entertainment/cultural depiction of the 20th century.
It has been received with much controversy over the years, moving from the art museum to/from the Spectrum…is it art or is it pop-culture? …well, the “fathers” of Philly agreed it was a “tourist attraction”.
Geez…from the Liberty Bell to Rocky…what a city!
Since we are on this topic…what’s going on with the Forum these days? I believe it’s still up?
Take it for what it’s worth…the Forum was so iconic. There are just a few places left in N.A ….Fenway, Wrigley, Yankee Stadium (idiots are building a new one), Lambeau & Soldier Field, and perhaps Notre Dame Stadium
I always believed that a 2nd major renovation was the route to go. Just look at Soldier, Lambeau, and Fenway today.
I realize it’s about $$$$….but my last memory of that place was ’96, last game with the torches high…wow.
As for the Boston Garden….it had character, but hey, when the rats find the place a dump it’s time to move on
Tony from NB ( saying… “YO ADRIAN!” )
April 28, 2008 at 6:44 am
It sucks because I have hockey tonight and won’t be able to see the 2nd and third periods. But hopefully they score the first goal of the game!
April 28, 2008 at 7:36 am
I hope Montreal knocks some f_cking teeth down the throats of those Flyers tonight. Every time the Flyers score a goal they taunt the Habs players. I’m glad that the Habs Mr. Greek gave Jackass a sucker punch.
All that F_cking Stevens does is whine. The first game he said his team got no breaks. What the f_ck! Two goal posts by the Habs and two fluky goals for the Flyers. No breaks. Cry me a F_cking river.
If it were not for luck and the Flyers getting all of the breaks and bounces Montreal would have gotten 8 goals every game so far. We hit 3-4 post Saturday night as well.
And last game Stevens whined about the cheap shot from the Greek on Montreal and that Montreal players had no class. Carbo blasted back about class when the Flyers had the most suspensions of any team this year.
I hope to F_ck that Montreal is pissed off enough to hand the Flyers their Asses for the rest of the series.
I am sorry for some of my comments Saturday night. I should wait till the next day to post after I calm down. I hate to lose, no matter what I play. My passion burns so intensely for the habs, it just takes control of me.
April 28, 2008 at 7:42 am
I agree with you duckdoc.
People are saying that Price is tired. I say, NO he is not. Price needs to get into that Zone again.
Please Mr.Price, start kicking some *** from now on….. We need him. With out APrice we will go no where….
April 28, 2008 at 7:43 am
My bloody fingers are to big for this laptop……..
April 28, 2008 at 8:04 am
The Spectrum is about to be demolished to make way for a huge commercial development in the shadow of the new stadiums now gracing the South Broad Street corridor. They really ARE a sight to see, the Linc (Eagles), Citizens Bank (Phils) and the Wachovia Center (Sixers and Flyers) are really state-of-the art facilities (dontcha hate bank names on sports facilities??) and a credit to their sports-mad town. The Rocky statue actually has spent several years at the Phialdephia Art Museum, which brought many questions like yours, Joseph. It IS a piece of art, but it also embodies the blue-collar work ethic of this city and the determination and pluck expressed by the “up-by-your-bootstraps” guys here that spend a large proportion of their hard earned pay to go root for their beloved teams…no cheap feat.
Look around your city, my friend, and you may find a few statues of “fictional” or mythical figures as well i’m sure…it’s certainly not something unique to Philly.
Oh, and to DuckDoc: there is one more option you failed to mention regarding the Flyers ability to cruise the crease unmolested:…unwilling, unprepared, intimidated…how about just plain UNABLE!?! We have even used the 6’5″ 260 lb Derrien Hatcher in this roll occasionally, and our main man on the crease, despite a partially torn ACL, will be back in the lineup tonight pestering Monsieur La Price…one Mr. Mike Knuble. Mais oui, it would make Rocky proud!!
Lets get it ON!
April 28, 2008 at 8:25 am
YA THE SOONER THE HABS BLOW OUT THE fLYERS THE BETTER,GO HABS GO
April 28, 2008 at 9:18 am
BLEU………….BLANC…………..ROUGE……….
It’s wakeup time!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
GO, HABS, GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 28, 2008 at 10:49 am
Reality check for all you Hab Fans, you are just living a dream…Habs scraped by Boston(a team they should have taken in 4 games), and now Habs are playing an average team(Flyers) and are struggling at that…Habs just don’t have what it takes to compete in the playoffs, they are not a playoff team. So to all my little Hab fans out there, don’t sprain an ankle jumping off the Bandwagon again(Typical Hab Fan) and start singing to yourself..”Nah Nah Nah Nah, Nah Nah Nah Nah, Hey Hey Hey, GOOD BYE!”
April 28, 2008 at 11:27 am
The strongest Habs two lines would be:
AK27 – AK46 – SK74;
SK11 – HC21 – TP14.
April 28, 2008 at 11:28 am
rather CH21
April 28, 2008 at 11:54 am
Post#169 Jack-off,take your goof pills would ya,and what ever you do don’t bet on the game rainman,lol…GO HABS GO…..
April 28, 2008 at 11:55 am
Philly players laughing at Price and others on the Habs after they scored? Wow hate to say it philly fans but you guys just woke up a sleeping giant. Look out here comes Price.
April 28, 2008 at 11:57 am
Oh yeah on another note…. I once had a girl tell me to kiss her where it stinks so i took her to philly GO HABS GO GO HABS GO GO HABS GO
April 28, 2008 at 12:10 pm
You can take this right to the Bank;
“PRICE WILL NOT HAVE 2 BAD GAMES IN ROW”
Biron will not have a repeat performance of last game. He can thank his post brothers for the win.
Price will make Biron look like a novice tonight.
Bring on the Flyer *******!!!!!
April 28, 2008 at 12:22 pm
lineup change: Dandeneault is out, and Latendresse is in for tonight!
official.
April 28, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Dandy OUT, Lats IN.
Begin, Lapierre and Steit.
Smoke, TK and Lats
Sorry, DieHard, Ryder still healthy watching.
April 28, 2008 at 12:33 pm
So.
habs4life, what’s your point?
April 28, 2008 at 12:34 pm
It is just as well for Carbo stick his finger up his *** then to put Lats in!!!
April 28, 2008 at 12:39 pm
no, sir. that’s the latest news for 3rd and 4th line. So far, no info for 1st and 2nd.
April 28, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Carbo should split SK11 and AK27. Simply, Carbo cannot put on his lucky tie every game.
SK11 and AK27 in one line is somehow “leadership” zero-sum.
April 28, 2008 at 12:56 pm
For Carbo, I’d rather change ONE line instead of mixing the two lineups: Keeping 4th line unchanged; just putting Lats to Dandy’s position. Why mix up???
Begin, Lapierre and Steit.
Smoke, TK and Lats
April 28, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Leafs new 2008-09 Captain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0x9mMNJSEM
April 28, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Knuble may be coming back tonight for the Flyers. Any of you out there know which knee is the ailing one? If you do, pass it on down to the CH dressing room and make sure that Tom(6), Steve(22) and Mike(8)get the message.
On another note, now that Jacques Lemaire has been let go by the Wild, is there any chance he might come back to the Hab Family? I watched him all the time he played for Canadiens; he was the best 2 way player (and I do not mean that in the Flyer sense; he only likes women)ever. Number #25 should have been retired years ago. Anybody out there know what the deal is? He must have pissed off somebody really big in the organization.
April 28, 2008 at 2:03 pm
COUNTDOWN TO FLYER AMF TIME:
One down, three to go.
April 28, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Koivu centring Kovalev and Higgins
Plekanec centring the Kostitsyn brothers
Smolinski centring Latendresse and Kostopoulos
Lapierre centring Streit and Bégin
Hope this works well.
April 28, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Whoever it was that wrote about Markov being injured was right on.
The guy used to lead all the rushes up ice, skate in from the blue line on a give-and-go, and apply muscle in our end. I believe his problem is the main reason our power play is gone. Bouillon can log the puck but the Flyers have been abusing him like a flyswatter on a mosquito.
We got any defenseman on the farm ( or on the bench) that can take the puck down the ice?
April 28, 2008 at 2:44 pm
habs4life not bad line up but why in the hell would you even think latendresse in the line up put a real hockey player back in Ryder
April 28, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Well at least we finally have slow as hell Dandedault if finally out of lineup!
I like the toughness of the 3rd line Smolinski – Latendresse – Kostopoulos
And I like putting Begin and Lapierre back together on the 4th line.
The only last thing I would love to see on that 4th line would replacing Streit with Ryder so we get Begin-Lapierre-Ryder OR I would really love to see
Chipchura-Lapierre-Begin
April 28, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Habs never lack of skills, but we do need “hitting” and “blocking”.
Warriors, like TK06 and Begin, are really needed in the lineups. So, for the lineup change tonight, I can see the “physical” factor.
April 28, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Bégin and TK06 are both “physical” motivators. Splitting them could make TWO lines energetic. That’s what Carbo thought, I guess.
April 29, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Tony and portly:
Thanks for the thoughtful explanantions. I remember reading something about the Rocky statue being moved from the Art Museum to the Spectrum but I didn’t know the details behind it.
As far a statues of fictional characters go, I’m quite certain that they exist in every city. And although I’m not entirely in agreement with the idea of them being idolized, I do appreciate the more general iconism that they represent. But then, we’re a strange culture.
As to the old forum, I believe that it has since be turned in to an entertainment center, with pieces of its historical past being preserved within. For example, center ice, as I understand it, still resides in the middle of the complex.