Habs / Flyers: Game 2
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Sloppy play, unlucky bounces & fluky goals all characterized game one of this series.
The Habs managed a late comeback victory regardless of all that.
What will happen if the Habs or the Flyers execute their game plan effectively?
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- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
- stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
- goalie : Markov for Beauchemin - an injury prone d-man for an ;old timer'd-man. Beauchemin is NOT what the Habs need in my opinion. He is a HUGE defensive liability.
- goalie : Stuo 11 I'd make that trade with Oilers fast BUT I doubt the Oilers will make that. Two marginal d-men at the best for a switch of first round picks - not a chance .
- stuo11 : markov for beachemin?
- stuo11 : let moen go
- stuo11 : maybe try and get steve begin back
- stuo11 : we wouldve kicked out all other teams but pens, sens,
- stuo11 : pens have alot of forwaRDS same with us but we have better goaltending
- stuo11 : theres styles of play goalie. Sens played us good, but lost games to southeast teams florida and tampa and get crushed by leafs EVERYTIME. sens and leafsd cant beat bruins but we do frequently
- stuo11 : Diaz weber and our 1st for their first edm
- goalie : SEns beat us 4 games to 1. Pens had last night's game under their control. What does that mean if we were up vs the Pens in a series. I think the Habs have a way to go before we're competing for Lord Stanley's Cup!
- Senet1 : If he could score goals like Lucic and we could sign him to a four year contract then I would consider it too. However, NOT if we only have him for one to two years.
- Senet1 : So we went from 27th pick to 21st pick.
- goalie : Normally I would not trade draft picks BUT if we could get a consistently, solid player (especially forward) who is BIG I'd trade one of our picks.
- Senet1 : The good part of this is with both Detroit and Boston moving on to the 2nd round it makes our draft position better, we move up the list by two.
- Senet1 : Bruins beat leafs in OT. It was hard but I was hoping the Leafs beat the Bruins. They had a4-1 lead in the third and two goal lead with less than 4 minutes and lost. Sound familiar.
- Senet1 : The thing is just because you get those guys does not guarantee that you will even make the playoffs or get out of the first round. Look at Detroit they built a strong team and organization and have been at the top for years. Yet they only have had a chance to win it two or three times. No matter how good you are you still need the breaks. So putting yourself in position to win is the most important thing to do year after year.
- stuo11 : i think rightnow we came 2nd in east, a few tough players and we could win it all. why wait? id rather win the cup and not make playoffs the next year!
- stuo11 : and save 4 mill
- stuo11 : ryan clowe or raffi torres! and then a big defencemen! trade markov and gionta for Cammalleri. crap for crap but at least hes canadian and good in playoffs lol
- stuo11 : goalie and muller, we outplayed the sens, real bad luck, major injuries! i still find were the better team. If the nhl wasnt so dumb about zibinejads goal itd be totally different!
- Senet1 : Don't TRADE DRAFT PICKS for one to three year wonders.
- Senet1 : Sorry guys but I would not trade our draft picks. We have 1 in the first round, 2 early second rounds + our own 2nd round pick and a good third round pick. We have finally got a chance to build this team like Detroit did and be able to stay up in the upper group of teams for a long time. If we blow this draft we blow our long term success. There are some players we can trade away and hopefully get some rugged players in return and or more draft picks. We have shown other players that we have
- goalie : I agree with Muller. I'm not sure how many high / mid draft choices we have but I'd be looking to make some moves (even trade draft choices) for a couple of proven, rugged, players who can help us immediately.
- muller93 : Well MB is a finalist for the GM of the year and I for one will say he did a great job with the Habs. We are just a few players away from having a real contender for years to come. But I really don't want to bank on this years draft--We need some NHL ready players. Hab fans have waited long enough and we have a good foundation. Lets trade some players along with some draft picks and get some big players in here. This is the only problem I see.
- Senet1 : The leafs were intimidated early not from size but just not believing they could beat Boston and they did not get good goaltending early. Now they believe that they can beat the bruins and I would not be surprised if they do because they have faster than boston. They are beating boston to the puck similar to the way we beat them to the puck. They are exploiting their defence with their speed. So as long as Reimer gives them goaltending they have a chance.
- goalie : Senet has it right. Other teams have drafted skill, size and dedication. Those players are out there.
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April 27, 2008 at 12:47 am
Joseph
I am a fan of Price’s skills, but don’t you think he’s playing a bit out of his head? I feel the same way about Biron, right now he looks unstoppable, but I think any insecurity can bury either netminder in this series. Neither has looked “Conn Smythe” so far.
April 27, 2008 at 12:48 am
As far as chants go ,the Habs have had many during thier long and glorious history,24 cups etc….deal with it!!!
April 27, 2008 at 12:49 am
I’d have to agree with your goaltender analysis, EF. Every tim e I witness a great game by Price, I think ‘This kid is the real deal’, but then he has a game like he did tonight. Flyers fan or not, he let in some very soft goals.
April 27, 2008 at 12:50 am
Same for Biron. He rose to the challenge tonight. Not so much in Game 1.
April 27, 2008 at 12:54 am
By the way, EF, we are in agreement with regard to Crosby’s antics. He’s a great talent no doubt. I just wish that he’d grow up and play hockey.
April 27, 2008 at 12:55 am
I am fascinated with Canadian pop culture right now. It may be an addiction, my next inquiry is about Don Cherry. I can understand thew following of hockey in Canada, I wish it were like that here, but he’s just a commetator right? Or is the some sort of magical force behind that bald head an white goatee?
April 27, 2008 at 12:56 am
We need something like that here.
April 27, 2008 at 12:58 am
Don Cherry’s real name is Christopher Cringle, born in the North Pole, 1773.
April 27, 2008 at 12:58 am
Did you hear thier coach whining tonite,what a joke ,crashing the net ,board of govenors,bla bla bla…the flyers were built to intimidate other teams and that’s all they can do!!!They are going to have thier asses handed to them by the Habs…oooohhhh yeahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 27, 2008 at 1:00 am
Joseph
I totally agree with you. You could have flip/flopped the performances between the the 2 goalies from game 1 to game 2. This may be a longer series than many could have thought.
April 27, 2008 at 1:01 am
SANTA!!!!!
April 27, 2008 at 1:01 am
Santa’s dark side.
April 27, 2008 at 1:02 am
You guys had a bald guy called ‘Panger’ down there for a while. I believe that he was one of Santa’s elves.
April 27, 2008 at 1:04 am
Well, the Habs are making a habit of creating longer series than originally thought this playoff year, so why stop with Boston?
April 27, 2008 at 1:04 am
Xtrahabsfan
Ignorance is bliss…wake up and smell the series. It’s gonna be long fought son. The flyers played the better of both games besides the crappy calls. This should be a great round.
April 27, 2008 at 1:06 am
Santa’s dark side? Is he hardspoken or something?
April 27, 2008 at 1:10 am
Hardspoken would be an understatement. He’s been highly controversial for years.
Evil Santa
April 27, 2008 at 1:11 am
Habs in 6
April 27, 2008 at 1:12 am
Sounds good, But Parren Pang is nowhere near one of his elves then. Maybe Mike Millbury?
April 27, 2008 at 1:13 am
I’d have to disagree that the Flyers played the better of both games. The Habs dominated most of the game tonight–the Flyers couldn’t handle their speed–but simply failed to get enough pucks past Biron. On the other hand… was Price’s faulty catching glove.
April 27, 2008 at 1:13 am
Mike is quite the *******.
April 27, 2008 at 1:14 am
Joseph
The Flyers spent quite some time in the offensive zone tonight.
April 27, 2008 at 1:17 am
Panger was born in the North Pole as well (under a rock), relocated to the U.S. to fulfill the role of hockey analyst for ESPN (of all things), and was then mailed north of the border (inside of a Christmas card, of all things) to the TSN studios. Very suspicious.
There’s also suspicion that Pierre McGuire may be an ex-elf as well. It’s being looked in to.
April 27, 2008 at 1:18 am
In the Habs’ offensive zone? I agree… quite a lot.
April 27, 2008 at 1:21 am
Sorry, to get back on the “chants”, I think it’s kind of cool. Maybe the NHL needs something like that. Not that they need ro draw in fans…maybe something to get the pre-exising fans to get more into the live product. Just a thought.
April 27, 2008 at 1:21 am
Milbury is blunt, that’s for sure. He called McGuire an ‘entertaining jerk’ on air. Milbury was arguing that Avery is a jerk. McGuire countered that Avery was entertaining. Milbury concluded “So he’s an entertaining jerk, like you.’
April 27, 2008 at 1:25 am
I like the originality of chants and songs. Many people complain about the Ole song, for instance, especially Leafs fans (Toronto is conservative and unimaginative), but I think it’s great that Habs fans do something different to deviate from the norm.
In conclusion, all hockey fanbases should establish their own chants/songs.
April 27, 2008 at 1:29 am
Alright, I’m off to bed. Happy round two to all.
April 27, 2008 at 1:30 am
Oh, I will be the entertaining jerk, that’s my job (why else would I be posting on your blog…AWESOME!!!!) you will see me after every game. Oh, and more than likely all postseason, being that you have taken a kindness to me. The feeling is mutual. Orange and Black vengeance is fun. Let’s have more fun.
April 27, 2008 at 1:31 am
Night night.
April 27, 2008 at 1:38 am
OK – Habs outplayed them – faster, more skill – this is a 7 game series. The better team will prevail in the end and this is the Habs. Forget the refs and cheap bounces. Skill wins the day. Habs will prevail. No question here.
April 27, 2008 at 1:41 am
Sorry Joseph…I thought you were saying I was the entertainong jerk, that’s what lots of beer during a hockey game could do to you pre-screening of postings on the opposing team’s site. Either way I would love to be the catalyst to your apoxy. Godspeed and goodluck.
April 27, 2008 at 1:44 am
It’s amazing how little respect is given to the sick goals some skilled Flyers put in net tonight. Umberger started it up high, and Carter slipped one as high as it can get into a space “the size of a puck” (quoting Price). Don’t throw your goalie under the bus, when you should realize only the best of goalies can do something about shots like that.
That being said, Biron made stops that the best of goalies make. He stopped back to back point blank shots at one point.
And Briere made Price look like a fool on his backhand display. You boo him because you wish he was playing for you, and that’s being quite respectful.
April 27, 2008 at 1:50 am
Pierre McGuire sucks almost as much “Panger”. The “King of Mullets”, Barry Melrose is probably the worst. God I hate him.
April 27, 2008 at 1:52 am
BUG
April 27, 2008 at 2:03 am
Bug?
April 27, 2008 at 2:11 am
BUG!
April 27, 2008 at 7:28 am
I still don’t think that the flyers will push the habs to the limit. Montreal will win game 3,4 and 5. And what the hell is up with coach stevens? Timonen was taunting us, you would have to be a huge coward not to punch him. I would have done it without any resistance. This series wil be a short 4-1 habs.
But montreal has to start scoring first!
April 27, 2008 at 7:34 am
This is how it should be: Latendresse in, Dandenault out.
April 27, 2008 at 9:00 am
latendress should stay out!!!!! dandennault should never lace his skates up again this year !!!!!! give a proven and a much better player back in the line up like ryder oh but he isnt french he is a good old newfie boy that works his a$$ off every night to bad he has to be the exsape goat i guess higgins will be this time since he isnt french also.
April 27, 2008 at 10:25 am
Stu how could you possibly think you will win both games in Philly? You’ll have a chance at game 4, but game 3 will be ugly. Remember game 3 against Washington? 6-3. Sounds alot closer than it was. We have seven 20 goal scorers. Who else can say that in the league? Oh ****, nobody! Most balanced attack in the game will prevail, and with Biron playing out of his mind in his first playoffs as a 30 year old, you guys are in trouble.
April 27, 2008 at 11:50 am
I have a good feeling that Montreal will come out strong. Most those philly goals were fluky , but Price I feel, will rebound. It’s been all montreal and Philly should be really pissed off. But Philedelphia has been getting the breaks. Montreal= best road team in the east so take that!!! I have high hopes for our hopes and the habs will win the series 4-1 or 4-2.
April 27, 2008 at 11:54 am
and for rcbhotrod, Ryder is one of my favorites but I just haven’t seen him with grit and that goes the same with Dandy. Dandenault is a veteran but he isn’t showing anything! Ryder might not be a french but I know he loves the habs just as much as Latendresse. I like Ryder better but there is no time to gamble to see if Ryder comes back. But I say keep O’Byrne out and put streit on D with Lat, and Ryder up front. Most the players on both teams are tired and Those two players will be full of fire!!!!!!
April 27, 2008 at 12:09 pm
If Price plays better, then habs will win, plain and simple. Take away the 2 soft goals in the 1st period, and habs win. I mean Philly can’t be that lucky in more than 1 game. Luck only takes you so far. hoping habs in 6.
April 27, 2008 at 12:22 pm
stu011 great idea i think they would come out flying in game 3
April 27, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Yo Blade…these guys also want to make a lot out of how many shots they took. Lots of shots are a good thing generally, but aside from flashing leather a few times, B-Ron was not having to move much in these two games at the Bell Center, was he? The bulk of shots from The Inhabitants were at his pads or mid-section. Shots like that are like raindrops on a brick wall…no problemO.
We have our work cut out for us, no doubt, but this series is ours to lose, the Habs have issues in net and with heart that will be interesting to watch…No. 1 and No. 2 regular season PP leaders going head-to-head! Our road record was only slightly less stellar than that of Les Canadiens. Clearly, WE are our own worst adversary, not The Inhabitants. Being so young, we could struggle, but we are also a dangerous playoff team with as lot of “jump” that can expose an opponent’s weaknesses. Should be fun to watch.
Lets get FLYERED UP!!
April 27, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Briere is booed because he shot the puck in to the stands at the end of a regular season game to deny Price a souvenir for his first NHL shutout.
You know what’s funny? The number of fans that embrace their favourite team as if they built it themselves. They didn’t.
Hockey, like all successful professional sports, isn’t at all what is used to be. These players don’t speak for the fans, they speak for themselves… and the companies advertised on the entrance to the arena, the boards and the ice.
Anyway, Flyers fans, you can keep Briere. The last thing that this Habs team needs is another small, skilled player.
April 27, 2008 at 1:30 pm
portly, the reality of last night’s outcome is that the Habs failed to capitalize on their scoring chances, which speak a lot louder than shots on goal. Forget the shots on goal, the scoring chances were far more lopsided than the shot counts were.
“We’re obviously disappointed with the loss, but we carried that game,” said Montreal goalie Carey Price, who did not have a strong game. “If we could have buried half of our open-net chances we could have won 8-4.”
Missed chances cost Canadiens
As to the Kostopoulos-Timmonen ordeal near the end of the game, Stevens is once again being silly. Timmonen turned arond and taunted him, laughed at him, and then turned away when he saw Kostopolous coming at him.
Don’t turn it in to something that it wasn’t, John.
April 27, 2008 at 2:09 pm
A few comments: (Strictly my opinion, I’m entitled to be wrong)
In no particular order
1) I believe The Habs are in a mini slump, we saw them throughout the year,
they were short lived and consistency prevailed, better now than in later
rounds, even in a mini slump Montreal (as I believe showed last night) they
are more skilled than the Flyers and it will show in the end.
2) There is a reason that Biron was never given the full time gig in Buffalo
again in the end I believe it will be apparent why.
3) Hockey is first and foremost entertainment, the unwritten promise from the
the management and staff of our team is to provide this, I for one have been
entertained, along with 21,000 plus (and the thousands left wanting)have
shown, home game after home game. For a mere $1.99 per month I am able to
watch every single Habs game of the season (RDS, Starchoice) name me another
team that allows this without caving to the pressure of PPV.
4) Cherry is the “Madden” of hockey, mixed with a little Howard Stern.
He’s both revered and despised, he’s opinionated but honest and his honesty
is his allure, love him or hate him (and I’ve done both)he speaks his mind
with total disregard for political tact.
5) Pierre McGuire IMO is one of the most unbiassed analysts going, it’s easy
to be an armchair coach, but I think he is the most well versed of the
bunch.
Last} Like it or not, hockey is also a business, every home game played in the
spring is revenue gained towards spending for the future.
The boys are playing in May!!! Be proud, and appreciative,see comment 3
as to why it’s great not to be a Canucks, Hawks, Canes (add teams here)
fan.
April 27, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Cheers *******……Lets go Flyers!!!!!!! Your team is not that good, did you all have fun watchin my Flyers out work you tonight. Keep telling yourselves your going to win the series 4-1, it never gonna happen!!!! My boys have way more heart then any of your “Habs”, its also obvious that Price doesn’t like our constant pressure near the goal…..sorry to tell him it will get much better when he come to Philly!!!!!