Habs in 2007
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Happy New Year.
The question Habs fans are wondering is will the 2007 portion of the season be as good as their 2006?
The Canadiens will hope to start off on the right foot after definitely ending it on the wrong one.
The last Friday/Saturday games in Florida were by far the most painful and difficult to watch and the worst effort the team has put forth thus far.
The Canadiens did not look like the Canadiens have looked all year.
Can they bounce back and avoid the longest losing streak to date? The Habs have not lost three consecutive games all season long and will want to avoid that slippery slope.
The fact is even good teams go through losing streaks.
The Habs are a confident bunch after their strong start and you’d think they’ll dig their way out of their slump sooner rather than later.
The fact that a two game losing streak is causing alarm is actually quite humorous considering the past decade of Canadiens hockey.
- muller93 : MB is forced to go out and get a big D-man. Missing Emelin for almost half the season is the last thing we needed to hear. Now going out and getting a big D-man is a MUST!!!
- muller93 : Now for the Fu**en Bruins who have no business even being in the second round are going to get a nice rest. Yes the same goons who took out one of best D-man for 6 more months. There is NO Fu**en justice. Just venting--Ok i feel better now.
- muller93 : So pissed to see the Rangers lay down and play like total crap. How did the Rangers beat the Caps? This team is playing with no heart--a must win and can only muster 23 shots...PATHETIC !!!
- muller93 : Senet I did see Galchenyuks goal--Made a great move for the game winner. You can see the kid has so much confidence.
- goalie : If Rangers get swept I wonder if Tortorella will get his walking papers? Or Glen Sather? They have tons of 'talent' but zero wins in this series.
- goalie : It's really too bad we lost to the Sens as we would have played the Rangers and the way NYR are playing we would have beat them too. If only. If only!
- Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
- stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
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January 2, 2007 at 5:16 pm
I don’t think the Habs will have any trouble breaking out of this “slump”. Higgins will get going on the left side which will ignite Ryder on the right and put pressure on both Samsonov and Kovalev to step it up. Just watch.
January 2, 2007 at 6:02 pm
I don’t see the Habs going on lenghty losing skids this year; a good thing as I’m sure we’ve all seen enough of those over the past 10 years. The premier coaching staff, dedicated team leaders, and overall team cohesion will allow the Habs to bounce back sooner than other teams in their division have, ie. Tor/Ott.
I’m still anxious to see the second line pick up their game. Carbo was experimenting with lines in the Tampa game, but I haven’t been able to envision any decent combinations.
January 2, 2007 at 6:18 pm
After all the pre-season consternation over the defense, it’s funny that the biggest holes are on offense. Souray and Komisarek esp have picked it up.
What happens when Begin gets back? I’m assuming he’ll take Murray’s place, but then they’ll be over the roster limit, with Murray, Downey and Niinimaa all sitting.
With some strong contenders from the minors (Lapierre esp), a trade might be in the works.
January 2, 2007 at 6:31 pm
For the Habs to get out of their ‘slump’, their special teams will have to get going aging. They’ve gone 1-13 on the PP in the last four and they’ve given up a few PP goals on the other side.
The first line will need to get going again(Higgins, Ryder), cause the second line may never get going and I don’t think it will. We’ve been waiting for Sammy and Kovy to get going for the entire season so don’t get your hopes up, especially with Plekanec as they’re centre. He’s not cutting it. They need a big, gritty guy to centre them and go into the corners and stand in front of the net like Shane Doan. He’d fit perfectly with this squad and screw whatever the french media would say about him.
Oh, and Huet needs to break out of his own personal little slump.
January 2, 2007 at 6:47 pm
Shane Doan would be one hell of a playoff performer.
I don’t know what to think of the second line either, I give up.
Maybe it’s time to try Higgins between the two and move sammy up.
Plekanec is one hell of a player, he’s just not a natural goalscorer.
He just can’t seem to put the puck in the net.
He’s an awesome third line checking centre, that’s it.
Line suggestions
1. Samsonov Koivu Ryder
2. Latendresse Higgins Kovalev
3. Johnson Bonk Perezhogin
4. Begin Plekanec Streit (the 4th line can be changed)
What do you think? Don’t hurt to try.
January 2, 2007 at 7:06 pm
I say lets make a trade.
Shane Doan has never been in my list. But now, I think he should be the player to target!
“Habs#1″ I do not know how you came up with with this player. Great way of thinking though. We should target Shane Doan. What will give up for him?
I say lets give up first of all, all the garbages: Murray, downey, add Plecks or Bonk ( I know alot of you guys are not going to agree* after all it is just an opinion), and a fist rounder or a prospect.
Sum= Habs: Murray, Downey, Plecks(or Bonk)and a prospect(Or a fist rounder)* and maybe throw Aebisher in the list
Phoenix: Doan *and maybe a 2nd rounder
January 2, 2007 at 7:10 pm
Lineup:
Samsonov-Koivu-Ryder
Latendresse-Doan-Kovalev
Perezoghin-Bonk(Plecks)-Johnson
Kostsityn-Begin-Lapierre
*It can’t be better than that
January 2, 2007 at 7:43 pm
Those lines make a lot of sense. Higgins was a big reason for Souray’s early success on the PP — he would take a beating in front of the net, screening the goalie. He’s not big, but he’s strong on the puck.
Plekanec is a feisty player, great on faceoffs and a good skater. Having him centre the 4th line would be ideal, almost turning it into a second checking line.
January 2, 2007 at 7:44 pm
Sorry, I was referencing Steve Jur’s lineup.
January 2, 2007 at 8:01 pm
Gainey has come back to work! That’s good news, mostly because he needs to keep busy. It will also keep him from thinking about his terrible loss, and hopefully focus on the habs, and what changes or improvements need to be made. I sincerely hope he will realize that it’s important to bring Lapierre back up, and keep him with the habs the rest of the season. Garth Murray and Downey belon in the minors. They are just a waste of money, and their are other bodies more talented, who could replace them. As well, Plekanec belongs on the 4th line, no higher. Which means,try and rid ourselves of Ninnimaa and another forward, for a center. BTW, Nedved, a center, was just picked up off waivers.Too bad it wasn’t us, because we wouldn’t have had to give up a player to get him.
January 2, 2007 at 10:45 pm
Wheres all the Kovalev/Plekanec haters tonight? Middle of the third and no comments?
January 2, 2007 at 11:10 pm
We won, but lucky to win, because our defence was brutal. Did someone forget to tell Souray that Xmas is over? because he kept giving TB presents all night. I thought our skating was slow, and our passes weren’t crisp, but we’ll take the win. But we’ll have to play better on Thursday,to win in Washington.
January 2, 2007 at 11:14 pm
Sure take the win…many chances unfinished and as far as Kovalev goes…it’s about time…
Pleks finally is able to convert and you know he should have had a hat trick to boot. Huet was solid and thank goodness that we can always count on him. Pleks is getting his due…he has been quite steady and takes full marks for his effort especially on a night like this. Onward, to the next. Go Habs Go!
January 2, 2007 at 11:18 pm
What in the name of hockey are you talking about?
We dominated 95% of this hockey match. I think that was our best match thus far! I was into the game from the first second to the final second! Gotta admit I was quite frustrated at Huet for leaving the softy, 1st goal of the game. Other than that, it was an impressive match.
Great job guys!
*P.s.: Am I the only one here thinking that was the first match, every player in every combo put in a 100% effort eventhough everyone didn’t score?
BTW: Plecks deserved the first star of the game. Every time he would be on the ice, I was ready to celebrate for a goal!
January 2, 2007 at 11:19 pm
Sorry Sam, I was referring to Hab Heaven*
January 2, 2007 at 11:24 pm
Pleks! Pleks! Pleks!
2nd line dominates, thank goodness (sigh of relief)
Give credit where credit is due.
We played a stellar game all around. Even though it was tight in the 3rd 5-2 was a fair score. Anyone who thinks we were lucky obviously does not understand the game of hockey.
Good to have you back Jack Thornton.
Rivet still scores me when he touches the puck. He is trouble.
January 2, 2007 at 11:33 pm
now that’s what i’m talking about!!!! start this year off on the right foot. get those two points back and keep truckin’ on. tampa who??? whatever!!! let’s roll into washington and keep stomping away!! go habs go.
January 2, 2007 at 11:43 pm
Habs #1:
Can you say what you said about the second line and Plekanec before every game? It sure seemed to work for them tonight.
PS. Shane Doan???
January 2, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Good to get the win. See no problem IF YOU PUT IN THE EFFORT. Great to see Plecs break out of his slump, but he has been playing hard as of late. I thought Johnson was one of the unsung heroes of this game but over all the team played very good tonight compared to the last two **** games. The only real issue is why they have such a hard time getting the puck out of the zone quickly…it has to be a concern, great win nonetheless!! GO HABS GO!!!
January 3, 2007 at 12:28 am
yeah, our defence was horrible. Souray’s still celebrating Xmas. How many giveaways did he have?
January 3, 2007 at 9:09 am
Hab heaven;
Are you sure you dont have Souray mixeed up with Rivet. OH wiat Rivet is too slow to get to the puck in teh first place. The worst is when he stands IFO our net like a pilon and tries to defend 3 different players at once and ends up doing nothing except looking like a twit.
ANyways what is this about Shane DOan? Why do I have a feeling he would end up in the press box.
January 3, 2007 at 9:12 am
Better yet lets get Ribeiro’s evil twin Mike COmrie. Im sure he is the guy who will get Kovy and Sammy playing to their best abilities. HAHA
January 3, 2007 at 11:05 am
Just think if all lines and defense were playing their “A” game… the scoring would be in the double digits?!?!
The thing is Montreal style of play is aggresive defense (pinching in on rushes working the blue line) I believe tires the bigger guys trying to get back in Defensive end (Souray, Komi, Rivet)causing them to sometimes blow a seemingly no brain play. This puts added pressure on Huet..Bla Bla Bla. The point is when everybodies in tune with this style; dropping back when a D-man is on the rush, an Offensive man going deep in the Defensive zone to fill open passing lanes to break-up plays, seems to create an offense spark. Yeah, I do think there were times were the Habs did not look the best last night but those moments were far overshadowed by the Montreals disapline, patience, and pressure!
“Hats off to Habs” for staying out of the Penalty box for the second half of the game!
January 3, 2007 at 11:49 am
Let’s not get to excited.
Samsonov scored 2 goals 3 weeks ago and has been scoreless in 10.
We need to see consistancy first.
Plekanec is one of my favorite Habs I hope he can turn it around.
His heart and determination is matched by only a few.
What the hell is up with Michael Ryder?
He loses the damn puck everytime he’s in the offensive zone.
He’s worse than Latendresse when it comes to holding the puck.
Brutal!
Hope he turns it aroung next game
Go Habs Go!
January 3, 2007 at 2:22 pm
Actually, Samsonov has not scored a goal IN THE LAST 28 GAMES! brutal!
All season people have said, “Give him time”! he’s had time, more than any other player, and he’s been tried on every line combination conceivable to man, and still, NOTHING WORKS! It’s not his linemates,it’s HIM! He is unable to play with anyone. And because of his exsorbient salary, he must be shipped off to another city, and another sucker! His time has expired here, and so has the team and fan’s patience. Bob,do yourself a favor, and GET RID OF THAT PIECE OF SH@#%^&T!
January 3, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Sorry Snake, but Ottawa already snapped up Comrie. What a dissapointment.
And what do you know. The second line steps up, the Habs win. Shocker. Now if they can do it consistently the Habs could be the best in the east.
And did anyone else watch Carey Price’s game against the States? In one word:Phenomenal.
January 3, 2007 at 2:28 pm
Michake Ryder is the only player I can think off that didn’t put a 100% effort.
Was he a fluke? MMmmmmmm… I’m not sure about it, but I can assume one thing.
He is a scorer and sometimes an enforcer. If you guys woul have been more careful, in what is presently happeneng in the Canadiens roster than you would understand why he isn’t produce as he was 1 year ago.
January 3, 2007 at 2:35 pm
How come Ottawa gets Comrie, and we don’t bother trying to get him, or Nedved, or Perreault? Gainey and Carbo keep saying we need a 2nd line center, but they do NOTHING! I give credit to Edmonton, and Ottawa, because they needed help in 1 area, and they went out and got their man, unlike us! So before you guys start saying, “look at their record”, please wait until the end of the season, and subsequently the playoffs, because you might want to eat those words. And if they go farther into the playoffs, it’s because those teams made changes, and we stayed pat!
January 3, 2007 at 2:37 pm
Hey Jack;
ONE think is for sure he is pressing right now and trying to do too much. THis is leading to him holding onto the puck too much which is not his game. HE is a shooter and needs to be focusing more on finding the open ice and let Kiggins get the puck and Koivu to carry it. I fhe does this he will be flirting with the 30 goal plateau come April.
January 3, 2007 at 2:39 pm
Michake Ryder is the only player I can think off that didn’t put a 100% effort.
Was he a fluke? MMmmmmmm… I’m not sure about it, but I can assume one thing.
He is a scorer and sometimes an enforcer. If you guys woul have been more careful, in what is presently happeneng in the Canadiens roster than you would understand why he isn’t produce as he was 1 year ago.
Point 1: :Last year we didn’t have as many scorers as we have this year.
Jan Bulis+Zednik = Johnson, Bonk(he is a total new player this year), Perezoghin(now he knows where he belongs) and Samsonov(isn’t producing but has lots of potential)
Point 2: LATENDRESSE!!!!!!!!!!: If you guys chekc carefully his style of play, it is almost identical to Ryder’s. But note these following aspects of his: He is more energetic, is bigger, Is more of an enforcer, has way more potential, He is a better scorer, is a better passer*Hits EVERYTHING he sees on the ice.
PROOF: When Latendresse joined Saku Koivu’s line in the beggining of the year, he wasn’t producing quite well. When Higgins was injured, Koivu was smart enough to notice Latendresse was a better player than Ryder so he kept passing to Latendresse, and that made everyone understand Latendresse was ready for NHL.
* Now I’m comming up to my point, Ryder learning Latendresse palys the same style of hockey as him, and has more potential, is stronger, younger, mopre appreciated by the fans, THEN THERE IS NO PLACE FOR HIM in the team.
I just want to make sure you guys understand I don’t want Ryder to leave the team, but that’s just wahat I have noticed. Some can say it is bias, and some can take it to serious
Jack
January 3, 2007 at 2:42 pm
*Sorry for all the gramatical mistakes, I was in a hurry!
January 3, 2007 at 2:44 pm
Hab Heaven:
You sound like a real optimist in live.
January 3, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Perreault? Comrie? NEDVED??????????????????
DO you really want one of those mediocore pleyers on our team. IS this the type of player you think will bring home the cup. Are we in dyer need of a center right now? DOnt you think its better to wait for that special bargain at the end to add to our momentum?
ITs easy to whine but sometimes you have to look at this like the business it is. ITs not like we are playing video games here. ITs not NHL 96 where you could trick the other GMs into a one sided trade.
January 3, 2007 at 3:49 pm
Snake hit that one bang on. Perreault is a huge risk at his age and could shut it down at any moment like he did in MTL, Nedved is 35 has 1 goal and 10 assists and is -20, and if you live in Edmonton you know the can of worms you’ll get if you have Comrie on your team. He’s like a womannizing version of Ribeiro, not even his own teammates wives are off limits.(Most people around here know that he he had a thing with Tommy Salo’s wife and was a terrible teammate, MacT and K-Lowe were heard in public saying it).
You have to give something up to get something good, those three centres aren’t exactly what you’d call quality pickups.
January 3, 2007 at 4:19 pm
Snake,
Your point is right on… We have Players such as Sammy,Abby,and Niinimaa (2 which are non starters)performing way below the salary potential (which is eating about $8 mil of the $44 mil). Nobody is going to “pony up” the money for these guys to ease our salary constants. Possiblity of Abby if someone is in desparate need of a Goalie. He is the least paid out of the 3 mentioned. I think trading away any other players we risk losing the sort of chemistry that has been working for the habs thus far.
It is time Niinimaa be sent to the Bulldogs, put on Waivers whatever… Maybe they can work out a deal like they did Philly with LeClair and he’ll walk away no strings attached. A $2.5 million beach warmer isn’t needed, and we need to free up money for young talent within the orginization. The younger talent has worked best in Carbo’s style of hockey given the opportunity. NOt to say a Star goal-scoring center with a $500k salary would not inprove the second line, but I do not see it happening without giving up the farm or the future.
January 3, 2007 at 5:05 pm
Don’t knock Michael Ryder-this guy is one of the few natural goal scorers that we have. He has soft hands, decent size and works hard. He’ll be a 30 or 40 goal scorer for years to come.
I think that Kovalev and Samsonov should be separated. They both hold on to the puck for extended periods(Kovalev more effectively mind you). Maybe Sammy can move to the 4th line where Mark Streit’s strong defensive play would counter Sammy’s darting around like a water bug:) Maybe have Kovalev play with Saku and Latendresse or with Saku and Ryder. Higgins could play with Plekanec and one of Latendresse/Ryder.
Latendresse is for real-they say that although he has Power Forward Size he likes to play more of a finesse game than the usual power forward game.
January 3, 2007 at 5:05 pm
It is sad to see a stable of very good rookies who only get to play short games, like Kostysin, and Lapierre stuck around awhile and of course Gui. What is with the coaching staff, here we keep the deadwood like Ninny, and Streit who is more miss than hit….and when are we gonna see the latest trades come out of the dogs?
Welcome back Gainey, its time to not trade your rookies, keep them, like Price, hey he was great in the worlds….
January 3, 2007 at 5:18 pm
By the way, SNAKE, Comrie, who you call MEDIOCRE, scored 30 GOALS LAST SEASON! so much for mediocrity. How many goals does our 2nd line center have? 4?HA HA HA HA! what a joke. you should check stats before making such a idiotic comment. And they got Comrie for next to nothing. Who cares what he does off the ice. He can score, and that’s all we care about. So we missed the boat, AGAIN! another opportunity to get a quality player, GONE! and you wonder why in the past 13 years, we can’t get beyond the 2nd round of the playoffs. Because we don’t make the necessary moves,and obtain players who will help us. Ottawa, great job! You have a GM who cares about your team, and who’se not afraid to take chances. I like Gainey, but he is way too conservative. we need to be aggressive, and take some chances. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Ottawa didn’t have a 2nd line center, so they went out and got one. But us,now waiting since training camp, have done NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING,to help our cause. People, don’t whine when we’re eliminated early from the playoffs. Just blame our front office!
January 3, 2007 at 5:34 pm
Hab Heaven:
Calm your nerves, Man! If I would be the owner of the Habs I would NEVER choose you as the GM of the team.
What in the name of hockey are you talking about?
Did you see the games yesterday? I guess not. Pleckaneck has alot of potential, and he showed it yesterday. GO WATCH THE GAMES BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY TALK! Have you ever seen MIKE COMRIE PLAY ? I guess you didn’t .
Stop bashing at people, and appreciate what we have.
Ottawa’s GM was dumb enough to leave Chara walk away and keep Wade Redden.
Result: Chara is the captain of Boston, and I don’t think he’s been injured the entire season. On the other hand, How many games did Redden play?
January 3, 2007 at 5:39 pm
hab heaven, Comrie has 7 goals this year. A far cry from the 30 he scored last year. He’s scored 30 only twice in his career and he’s a locker room menace. He devides the room and teammates, kind of like the Terrel Owens of hockey. He isn’t worth the trouble and he’s brutal in his own end. I watched him for years in Edmonton, he’s not worth it.Why do you think he’s only 27 and has been traded by three different teams? Plus he’s UFA at the end of the year. Ottawa just gave up a promising, although troublesome, player for a guy who may not contribute anything and probably won’t be back at the end of the year.
And in the new NHL with a cap, it’s like the NFL. You don’t throw away draft picks or young players. They’re like gold. You make a key free agent signing or trade here or there, but the smart teams build through the draft(i.e. New England Patriots, Phenoix Suns, St.Louis Cardinals, New Jersey Devils, all continuesly contending teams).
Has Gainey made a disastrous trade yet? Did he ever really make one in Minnesota/Dallas?(Some might argue that trading Iginla for Niewindyk was bad but that was when Joe was in the prime of his career and helped them win the cup.) But that trade brings up the point. Do you really want to trade Higgins, Lattendresse, Lapierre, Halak, Price, Chipchura, Fischer, Carle(leading all QMJHL D-men in scoring), Maxwell, or Komisarek? That’s what teams would want. If any one would be available it would be Ryder because I just get the feeling that he’s not one of Bob’s favorites.
I for one would not be happy to see Gainey mortgage the future on a veteran player who will probably be UFA at the end of the year and might not contribute anything. Gainey’s to smart to do that.
January 3, 2007 at 5:56 pm
I’ve been gone for a while but managed to watch most games via RDS.
Upon my return, reading through all the posts, I can see a few people are getting very frustrated, even panicky, after a short and ugly losing streak. Lots of trade talk, firing threats, arguments… I’m shocked! Are we a group of fair-weather fans like all those Americans in Nashville, Phoenix and Carolina?
OF COURSE NOT!!!!! Losing, though hard to watch, builds character and allows Carbo and Gainey the ability to tweak the lineup (maybe even make the trades) that will put the Habs in the best position to win in the playoffs. I’m not talking about accepting the losses, I’m saying that the team learns from them on its way to a good season and a (hopefully) spectacular post-season. I think all you trigger happy fans (you know who you are) are way too cynical to actually enjoy a hockey game unless the opposition literally doesn’t show up!!
I’ve said it before… who cares if some players aren’t at their best every game as long as the team as a whole can step up and win most of ‘em. In the playoffs, though, players like Sammy (if he’s still around…) and Kovy will need to be MUCH more consistent. And sheeeeeeesh!!! Stop bashing Souray!!! He’s one of the Habs’ top threats (i.e. Hello: they’re #1 on the power play!!!!!!!!!!!).
All that said, I hope Les Habitants learned a lot from their Florida vacation (’cause they weren’t exactly working, were they??!!). The game that hurt the most was against our old foe and division rival Boston, but last night’s win was a strong one; one that should help build confidence.
Happy New Year
January 3, 2007 at 6:20 pm
I don’t think beating TB builds confidence, because they are below 500. On the other hand, losing to Florida and TB destroys confidence. But having said that, I think we are all in agreement that we need a 2nd line center, DESPERATELY! You know, you can win a few games with 1 line scoring, but in the long run, it will catch up to you, and the opposition will counter on the 1st line, and then you’ll have nobody scoring. Is that what we want? Even tho Plekanec scored 2 goals,his 2nd goal was a fluke,(lucky). he’s not a goal scorer. he is a defensive player, and belongs on the 4th line. what’s going to happen when Begin comes back? hopefully, tweedle dee dee and tweedle dee dumb(Murray and Downey) will be demoted to the minors, because they certainly don’t belong in the NHL. Latendresse should play on the 1st line instead of Ryder, and move Ryder to the 2nd line, and move Samsonov(the terrible), to the 4th line. Agree?
January 3, 2007 at 6:23 pm
Also, Gainey Please bring back Lapierre, and play him on the 2nd line. His play is refreshing, and brings enthusiasm and spark to an otherwise lifeless 2nd line.
January 3, 2007 at 6:53 pm
WOW…….Two things guys……and you can jump on me if you like….only my opinion after all. I read in the above posts that someone believes Ryder has soft hands…listen up guys….this guy has hands of stone….if the pucks not placed on his stick by hand he’s not gonna handle it…next is Streit being a hit & miss?…this guys turned into one of the better journeymen on the team that can play defense…forward and last night I saw him throw a couple of hits in the offensive zone that left his victims laying down and sucking for wind…..he played a phenominal game. Rivet played much better and has simplified his game ( around the boards high & hard to get it out ) since his recent mental breakdowns started about a month ago.The coaches know he is a better player than he’s shown of late and are simplifying things for him until he gats back on track.
I know you’ll think I’m crazy but Ryder is the one who’s going to go, and when he does I’ll be saying I told you so..lol..he has good value, but doesnt fit with the philosophy of the team right now, which is speed, speed, oh, and more speed.You cant stop or hit what you cant catch.He needs to be somewhere with two forwards so fast that they can circle the opposing teams defense and place the puck on a golf tee 2 feet in front of the open cage, and they will have to render the goaltender unconscious as well.
Honestly, this guy couldnt hit a cow in the *** with a shovel right now.
I didnt say I dont like him…not at all…some of my best friends are from newfoundland and one of them even played junior with him. Great, stand up people, with morals to boot!….but soft hands???….Jesus, Joseph and Mary NO!!
K….you can jump on me now…
Izzy
January 3, 2007 at 7:17 pm
lol I can agree with you somewhat lol
January 3, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Why is it that every opposing goalie is so hot against the habs? Players like Ryder should be shooting the puck and not so much playmaking,habs got tons of playmakers that don’t have ryders shot,they should set up the shooters.samsnov playmaker, kovelev playmaker, koivu playmaker, habs defence playmakers and more ,when the goal scorers arn’t shooting the puck ,the opposing goalies look hot.
January 3, 2007 at 8:22 pm
How is it that Ryder was able score so many goals last year, and the year before? What has happened to him? he can’t even shoot straight, and the puck is never on net. Maybe he needs eyeglasses, or bigger nets.
January 3, 2007 at 10:27 pm
What would you guys want to aquire for Ryder, Aebisher, Niniima, Murray, and maybe samsonov?
I say a good 2nd line centre or a great right winger
possibilities:
1. Jonathan Cheechoo ( he’s struggling right now, perfect time to aquire him)
2. Shane Doan
3. Rick Nash
4. Simon Gagne
5. Alexander Semin
January 3, 2007 at 11:07 pm
the Senators are really beating the piss out of Buffalo… 3 PP goals and turnovers by using trap hockey. Miller can not seem to stop anything. they’re beating him up-close, from a far, and rebounds. 6-2 at this point 4 minutes to go. total domination. Comrie looked good 2 assists… buffalo put in a **** goal 6-3. Ottowa only 5 pts behind the habs???
January 3, 2007 at 11:18 pm
I swear i we can’t aquire any player better than Milan Michalek.
MILAN MICHALEK!
(I know I’m dreaming big, but he is the perfect player to fill up the hole)
Sharks: Samsonov+Niinima+Murray
Canadiens: Milan Michalek