Habs in Philly

The Canadiens left the pressure cooker that is Montreal right now and hit the road to play the Flyers in Philly.

Dropping 6 in a row at home this should have the Habs breathing a little easier.

Michael Ryder sits again and Sergei Kostitsyn starts his first career NHL game. Hopefully he can provide a spark to an offense that is lacking in just about every department. Pretty lofty expectations for a first ever NHL game. He will play along side Koivu and Higgins and
perhaps enthuse Saku who is paying with little or no interest at all.

If the Habs lose again I heard Bob Gainey is calling up Raphael.

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#1 Stuart-SB77 says:
December 13, 2007 at 4:52 pm

Come on Habs I’m confident that you guys can win this one! LEATS KICK SOME *** TONIGHT!SERGEI KOSTITSYN!!!

#2 Habs Blog says:
December 13, 2007 at 7:47 pm

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#3 Habs#1 says:
December 13, 2007 at 8:09 pm

Lol, Rapheal seems to have better moves in close then Ryder could ever dream of having! I have a really bad feeling the Habs will lose a squeaker tonight even though the Flyers have alot more talent then the Habs right now, including the newly inked on a 12 year 69million contract, Mike Richards. Yikes is that long. Hopefully Gainey doesn’t have to hand out an extention like that to Higgins. Nothing against Higgy by 12 years is still a little excessive, but Richards is better then Higgins.

And once again congrats to PK Subban and Pacioretty!

#4 windycity habsfan says:
December 13, 2007 at 10:16 pm

One of the best games I’ve seen the canadiens play all year. What is it with them on the road???? Why can’t they do this at home! I want to see the same when we play the leafs on Saturday. Habs have been dreadful to watch lately. This game has at least made me feel that there is some hope. Nice to see the Kostitsyn brothers mentioned in the same play. Would be nice to see them turn into a Sedins type of story.

#5 Jeff says:
December 13, 2007 at 10:44 pm

Still nothing from Koivu.

This is turning into the Plekanec Kovalov show.

#6 DTD says:
December 13, 2007 at 11:02 pm

Way to go PRICE.

Way to go HABS.

#7 Xtrahabsfan says:
December 14, 2007 at 3:37 am

Wow,and a youthfull finish ,ahhh, maybe there is room for a couple more bulldogs..WOW…price…WOW….ALL THE HABS… wow… LUV’S IT..NOW LETS RAKE THE LEAFS AND BURN THEM!!!!!! GO HABS……

#8 Don Carnage says:
December 14, 2007 at 1:26 pm

38 habs2010
Posted on December 12th, 2007 at 9:26 pm. About ‘Sh*t Kicked Lightning in town’.

“The only reason Kostistyn is being called up, is because Gainey refuses to make a trade.He’d rather sit on his hands and sleep thru the year. Yeah pretty soon we’ll be calling the habs the Montreal bulldogs, because we have all their players,and we now look like an AHL team on the ice. Just change the CH to a bulldog”

There is nothing wrong with seeing the rebuilt Habs .. we all want to see them play as much as they can, they need to play and we need them to get better. How do you know Gainey has refused a trade? What trade did he rufuse? I bet you there will be a trade very very soon … will it be what you want? Will it be when you want? Nope Gainey does not get pushed around by the media or anyone else, he is xmas shopping right now and its all about to happen.

#9 patrick says:
December 14, 2007 at 1:53 pm

I agree, the Habs have a desirable set of young players, Gainey should wait until the team is playing well (and they will) and their stock is higher, as well it’s becoming apparent that some teams are becoming desperate for goaltending (Tampa, Pittsburgh, etc.) Saying Gainey won’t make a trade is ignorant, that’s like saying he isn’t trying to sign a big name free agent, every summer he opens the vault to the top free agents, he hasn’t been lucky, but the same can be said about most GM’s.

#10 DTD says:
December 14, 2007 at 3:20 pm

Hey DONNY BOY.

U R pretty good at the copy & paste thing.

Picking apart other people’s comments is your specialty right.

I guess you have nothing else better to do right.

#11 Don Carnage says:
December 14, 2007 at 3:57 pm

If you do not want people to comment on your posts then dont post … and when you make statments like Gainey refuses to trade.. back them up with facts. We all know he is always on the phone and always looking for a way to better the team, its a well know fact stated by people that know him personally, such as Jacques Demers …

#12 DTD says:
December 14, 2007 at 4:46 pm

I’m not talking about my comments Don.

No one can pick apart my comments cause I tell it like it is. I tell the truth.

#13 patrick says:
December 14, 2007 at 6:35 pm

ha ha ha

#14 paul says:
December 14, 2007 at 6:45 pm

habs r the best.

#15 paul says:
December 14, 2007 at 6:49 pm

u guys r all negative.Habs r the best man.Till next time when we kill the leafs.

#16 paul says:
December 14, 2007 at 6:59 pm

DTD your very negative and don,t u have anything better to do than comment on others opinins.You don,t know a hockey stick from a baseball bat,so take that.

#17 Xtrahabsfan says:
December 14, 2007 at 7:51 pm

don’t,lol

#18 habs2010 says:
December 14, 2007 at 8:14 pm

You know what? I guage a GM by what he’s done. Gainey has had 4 years to improve this team. It hasen’t happened. Please someone tell me about all the great trades he’s made in 4 years. Kovalev is the ONLY trade he’s made, and we all know how Kovalev likes to take nights off, so unless you can show me what great things Gainey has done, please don’t criticize my comments. Good GM’s are aggressive, not passive,and do whatever necessary to make their team better. And before you talk about his great drafting, 2 of his draft picks from last year, couldn’t even make their national team. they were cut! And where’s our depth on offence? Oh yeah, we have 2 defencemen playing at the forward spot. And how many offensive players did Gainey draft last year? Oh yes, can’t even name them, because nobody notable. Yes, Mr. Gainey has done a wonderful job,- at running this team into the gutter! He’s a patchwork GM. Don’t you ever get tired of the same thing every year? Wondering if we’re going to squeeze into the last playoff spot? I do. I’d like to see some stability on this team, and a good team for a change. I think 14 years of waiting is long enough. And please don’t tell me about patience. We’ve had 14 years of it!

#19 Izzy says:
December 14, 2007 at 8:15 pm

so much for the habs / ducks rumors…….Ducks just traded Andy MacDonald ( center) to St louis for Doug Weight.

R.I.P. Rumor.

#20 habs2010 says:
December 14, 2007 at 8:18 pm

my point taken!

#21 patrick says:
December 14, 2007 at 10:57 pm

Before everyone jumps on Gainey this trade is entirely the fault of one man…Brian Burke. This one’s really weird, you’d figure there would be a host of GMs besides Gainey that would have put together a stronger offer. The Ducks are a deep team, but if they were making room for Niedermayer why not trade a defensemen? Was Schneider that hard to unload?

#22 Don Carnage says:
December 14, 2007 at 11:02 pm

20 habs2010
Posted on December 14th, 2007 at 8:18 pm. About ‘Habs in Philly’.

my point taken!

What point? The one where you know better then everyone else… if you knew any better why dont you apply for the job.

#23 habs2010 says:
December 15, 2007 at 12:04 am

Understand my logic: Good GM’s, like Brian Burke, make moves, and don’t screw around making promises(like Gainey did in the offseason, to get a scorer). If Burke was our GM, I guarantee this franchise would not be in disaray for long, certainly not for 14 years, or even 4 years. Unfortunately, people, not many, but some dummies think Gainey is a good GM because he was a great player, but GREAT PLAYERS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO GREAT COACHES OR GREAT GM’S. Just look at Carbo. He’s our coach, (but hopefully for not much longer) because he’s good friends with Gainey. Whatever happened to the logic of, the most qualified and experienced person becoming a coach? I just don’t understand it. Savard, Houle, Tremblay. C’mon.

#24 Xtrahabsfan says:
December 15, 2007 at 12:42 am

Hey, wait just one cottonplucin moment,er you sayin Gretzky can’t coach either?lol

#25 Don Carnage says:
December 15, 2007 at 8:35 am

This is Montreal the truth is some players do not want to play here period.

#26 Donnie says:
December 15, 2007 at 12:45 pm

4-1 over Philly. Amazing what can happen when you keep skating hard into the 2nd and 3rd periods isn’t it. And when someone actually goes to the front of the net. This is a better team then what they’ve been showing this last few weeks. Come on guys, get your home touch back tonight and beat up on the dirty Leafs…GO HABS GO !!!

#27 DTD says:
December 15, 2007 at 10:48 pm

Yes Paul. You know more than Scotty Bowman.

#28 paul says:
December 19, 2007 at 11:46 am

I CERTAINLY KNOW MORE THAN U DTD.

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Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
Avatar37 : Goalie - Sure, the only player I'd say who is untradeable (meaning I wouldn't trade no matter what) is Carey Price. You build a winning team from the net out, and I don't think there's a better goalie for his age in the NHL than Price, so I wouldn't trade him. Otherwise, every player would be open for offers, but for PK Subban, it would take (for me) an already established star, like Carter or Crosby or Ovechkin. As much as I like Ovechkin, I'm not sure he could handle all the media pre
goalie : I'm not suggesting at all that we judst dump or get rid of PK. I do however believe that he is a very valued commodity in the NHL adn that the Habs will receive offers for his services. If someone ffers us young, strong, puck handling forwards who can score, I think the Habs have to look at that possible trade.
Avatar37 : Agreed. It would be a big mistake to trade PK just to move up 2 spots in the draft. PK, Emelin, and Gorges are the bright future of our defense.
Senet1 : I am with you Avatar, Subban stays, it is not often that you get a stud defenceman who can play 25+ minutes. The mistakes he makes are for the most part not that serious and people forget he is only 23 and been in the league 2 years. He has come a long way in those two years. He has offense, defence and he hits. You cannot bet much better than that. Two more years experience and he has a shot at the Norris. If Markov does anything I hope he teaches PK how to work the PP.
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Avatar37 : go.
Avatar37 : round exit. Heck, even the year they won the cup we almost took them out in round 1. I believe in the corps of this team, I really think we just need a few tweaks. Adding Larry Robinson to run the defense would be a BIG help, keep Cunneyworth as offensive coach, and get a head coach who can get these guys back on the right path. We need to establish an identity again, a team that won't let itself be pushed around like it was under Martin. A few scrappers on this team and we'll be good to
Avatar37 : Yeah, the only way I'd trade PK is if we were getting an established star in return, like Carter or Crosby. I don't think we're miles away from competing deep into the playoffs, the NHL has become so competitive because of the salary cap that really there aren't huge differences between the teams. Add into the equation the stupid scoring system (some games worth 2 points, some 3) that the standings don't truly reflect where teams should really be. Look at Boston, cup winners to first rou
Senet1 : It would have to be something pretty special before I would trade PK. To me he is the #1 building block of our defence. I would trade any other defenceman we have before I would trade PK.
Senet1 : An improvement in our offense and strengthening our defence. Personally, I do not think we are that far off, five players at best could get us there. One thing that has always been true about the playoffs, Defence wins and you need a strong 3rd and 4th line.
goalie : I'm more optimistic now about the Habs than I have been for the past three dreadfully long seasons!
goalie : 2: I think GM Bergevin will make somewhat of a 'blockbuster't rade either before or on the day of the draft adn I believe PK Subban will be in that package. WE have t rememebr we have to give away some talent to get back other talent. No one wants players like Moen to move up in the draft etc.
goalie : Some thoughts:The more I see the playoffs it becomes even more obvious that we're miles away from being able to 'compete' dep into the playoffs
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Senet1 : Young Subban might also be an option if the Russian goalie is not available. However, to me I would wait another year and attempt to use my draft 2nd round draft picks to improve out forward situation.
Senet1 : Although Rinne contact is another example of long term at the wrong time. He is 29 years old. A case could be made with Price that double his money now with bonuses if we win the cup, I think that is still allowed in contracts?
Senet1 : Problem is he is going to want Pekka Rinne money and term. That is closer to 7M. On the other hand, the contract could have step up clauses in it over the 7 years.
Avatar37 : With Price, I wouldn't blink twice about offering him a 7 year contract now, especially if he'd be willing to give up dollar value for length. 7 years at $5.5 million a year would be just fine in my book.
Avatar37 : I think the goaltending void in our current system would push me to draft Vasilevski with our second pick, if he was available. He's young and has lots of potential, but is at least 5-6 years away from starting to be ready to play on an NHL roster.
Senet1 : Long tern contracts are a risk, but if you have a super star not as much. Luongo's contract was long term but signed too late in his career.
Avatar37 : Senet - Yes, you were clear in your post, my question was directed at goalie. I'm with you in that I'd be willing to sign him to a 7 year contract. I'd be nervous about anything longer, because every single long term goalie contract I can think of turned out to be a disaster for the team signing it.
Senet1 : I think that Budaj is a better goalie than many give him credit for, is he a Price no but with a tight defence he could be a good goalie. Many teams have average goalies but have great defence and still win. Look at Detroit, for years they have had average goaltending, but won cups. Goalies can get on a roll in the playoffs, look at Huet as an example, he was not really a good goalie but played great in the playoffs, next year he was a wash. Defence makes the goalie a winner, just ask Price.
Senet1 : Having a young equivalent goalie in the system right now is not important, three years from now it will be, so we have three years to make that kind of move in the draft. I think we have more pressing needs aat the moment.
Senet1 : Personally, I do not see this as a negative because of Price's age, you wait to draft a goalie of a Patrick Roy or Brodeur some teams wait a life time. To me we have on so why would we want to not play that out for as long as we can. Bottom line is this, regardless, right now you have a stud goalie, you are either going to pay him the money he deserves for not sign him and lose him. There is no middle of the road here.
goalie : Avatar made a great point. We don't have an NHL or up adn coming NHL goalies in our system. Another great move by Gauthier. Price is sitting very pretty.
goalie : WEll Price has us by the nads. I guess I'd have to go as far as a 7 year contract due to his play adn his age.
Senet1 : Luongo is now 33, he has been a good goaltender for a number of years. I would sign Price for 7 years and at age 31 then we deal with UFA at that time. Hopefully, we could provide him with another 5 years at that time. That is my opinion anyway, I would never risk losing him as a UFA at this point in his career to me that would be a very poor management decision. Even a 10 year contract would put him only at 34 years old. If you are going to sign him to long term now is the time.
Senet1 : If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him a contract that is worthy of his abilities and his potential. It can have escalation clauses or reducing clauses like Kovalchuk's contract.
Senet1 : Avatar, I thought I was clear Yes I would sign him long term. My previous post said. The problem is if you have a out in the contract after 5 years then the player also has an out after 5 years. So no self respected lawyer would accept a contract that did not have equal escape clauses. So no I would not sign only for 5 years, if Price was 28 years old yes but not a 24. Seven years still only makes him 31 when the contract is over. If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him
Avatar37 : Cammalleri trade. Given the fact that we have no NHL starting quality goaltenders in the system currently, aren't we held hostage to having to sign Price?
Avatar37 : There are many bad goalie contracts, just look at Huet. However, your post didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with Price. He's an RFA now, but for argument sake, if he were a UFA, what would you do? If he wanted a 7+ year contract, you know some other team would give him one. Would you risk losing him for nothing because you didn't want to sign a contract over 5 years? And if we lose Price, our goalies are Budaj and Robert Mayer, as we sent Karri Ramo to the Flames in the Cam
goalie : .. a 5 years contract again based upon the experience he has had AND he likes Bobby Lou!
goalie : Ditto for Philly, Ther goaltender 'situations' have both become the number 1 story line for both teams, and in Vancouver one could see the exaspiration on Gillis' adn to some extent Vigneault's faces when continously being bombarded by the loooong term contract that the Canucks are stuct with. (Gillis even said last February or so, thank goodness it looks like more than few other teams will be looking for a starting goaltender for 2012-13. He said he would never again do more than a 5 year c
goalie : I've spent the past four winters in BC thus I am very aware of the Canucks situations. I'd first say I give Gillis adn Vigneault 100% credit for being VERY supportive of Roberto L. even when Corey Schenider has vastly out played him. (I too like Bobby Lou but facts are facts).