Habs in Philly
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The Canadiens left the pressure cooker that is Montreal right now and hit the road to play the Flyers in Philly.
Dropping 6 in a row at home this should have the Habs breathing a little easier.
Michael Ryder sits again and Sergei Kostitsyn starts his first career NHL game. Hopefully he can provide a spark to an offense that is lacking in just about every department. Pretty lofty expectations for a first ever NHL game. He will play along side Koivu and Higgins and
perhaps enthuse Saku who is paying with little or no interest at all.If the Habs lose again I heard Bob Gainey is calling up Raphael.
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- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
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December 13, 2007 at 4:52 pm
Come on Habs I’m confident that you guys can win this one! LEATS KICK SOME *** TONIGHT!SERGEI KOSTITSYN!!!
December 13, 2007 at 7:47 pm
test
December 13, 2007 at 8:09 pm
Lol, Rapheal seems to have better moves in close then Ryder could ever dream of having! I have a really bad feeling the Habs will lose a squeaker tonight even though the Flyers have alot more talent then the Habs right now, including the newly inked on a 12 year 69million contract, Mike Richards. Yikes is that long. Hopefully Gainey doesn’t have to hand out an extention like that to Higgins. Nothing against Higgy by 12 years is still a little excessive, but Richards is better then Higgins.
And once again congrats to PK Subban and Pacioretty!
December 13, 2007 at 10:16 pm
One of the best games I’ve seen the canadiens play all year. What is it with them on the road???? Why can’t they do this at home! I want to see the same when we play the leafs on Saturday. Habs have been dreadful to watch lately. This game has at least made me feel that there is some hope. Nice to see the Kostitsyn brothers mentioned in the same play. Would be nice to see them turn into a Sedins type of story.
December 13, 2007 at 10:44 pm
Still nothing from Koivu.
This is turning into the Plekanec Kovalov show.
December 13, 2007 at 11:02 pm
Way to go PRICE.
Way to go HABS.
December 14, 2007 at 3:37 am
Wow,and a youthfull finish ,ahhh, maybe there is room for a couple more bulldogs..WOW…price…WOW….ALL THE HABS… wow… LUV’S IT..NOW LETS RAKE THE LEAFS AND BURN THEM!!!!!! GO HABS……
December 14, 2007 at 1:26 pm
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Posted on December 12th, 2007 at 9:26 pm. About ‘Sh*t Kicked Lightning in town’.
“The only reason Kostistyn is being called up, is because Gainey refuses to make a trade.He’d rather sit on his hands and sleep thru the year. Yeah pretty soon we’ll be calling the habs the Montreal bulldogs, because we have all their players,and we now look like an AHL team on the ice. Just change the CH to a bulldog”
There is nothing wrong with seeing the rebuilt Habs .. we all want to see them play as much as they can, they need to play and we need them to get better. How do you know Gainey has refused a trade? What trade did he rufuse? I bet you there will be a trade very very soon … will it be what you want? Will it be when you want? Nope Gainey does not get pushed around by the media or anyone else, he is xmas shopping right now and its all about to happen.
December 14, 2007 at 1:53 pm
I agree, the Habs have a desirable set of young players, Gainey should wait until the team is playing well (and they will) and their stock is higher, as well it’s becoming apparent that some teams are becoming desperate for goaltending (Tampa, Pittsburgh, etc.) Saying Gainey won’t make a trade is ignorant, that’s like saying he isn’t trying to sign a big name free agent, every summer he opens the vault to the top free agents, he hasn’t been lucky, but the same can be said about most GM’s.
December 14, 2007 at 3:20 pm
Hey DONNY BOY.
U R pretty good at the copy & paste thing.
Picking apart other people’s comments is your specialty right.
I guess you have nothing else better to do right.
December 14, 2007 at 3:57 pm
If you do not want people to comment on your posts then dont post … and when you make statments like Gainey refuses to trade.. back them up with facts. We all know he is always on the phone and always looking for a way to better the team, its a well know fact stated by people that know him personally, such as Jacques Demers …
December 14, 2007 at 4:46 pm
I’m not talking about my comments Don.
No one can pick apart my comments cause I tell it like it is. I tell the truth.
December 14, 2007 at 6:35 pm
ha ha ha
December 14, 2007 at 6:45 pm
habs r the best.
December 14, 2007 at 6:49 pm
u guys r all negative.Habs r the best man.Till next time when we kill the leafs.
December 14, 2007 at 6:59 pm
DTD your very negative and don,t u have anything better to do than comment on others opinins.You don,t know a hockey stick from a baseball bat,so take that.
December 14, 2007 at 7:51 pm
don’t,lol
December 14, 2007 at 8:14 pm
You know what? I guage a GM by what he’s done. Gainey has had 4 years to improve this team. It hasen’t happened. Please someone tell me about all the great trades he’s made in 4 years. Kovalev is the ONLY trade he’s made, and we all know how Kovalev likes to take nights off, so unless you can show me what great things Gainey has done, please don’t criticize my comments. Good GM’s are aggressive, not passive,and do whatever necessary to make their team better. And before you talk about his great drafting, 2 of his draft picks from last year, couldn’t even make their national team. they were cut! And where’s our depth on offence? Oh yeah, we have 2 defencemen playing at the forward spot. And how many offensive players did Gainey draft last year? Oh yes, can’t even name them, because nobody notable. Yes, Mr. Gainey has done a wonderful job,- at running this team into the gutter! He’s a patchwork GM. Don’t you ever get tired of the same thing every year? Wondering if we’re going to squeeze into the last playoff spot? I do. I’d like to see some stability on this team, and a good team for a change. I think 14 years of waiting is long enough. And please don’t tell me about patience. We’ve had 14 years of it!
December 14, 2007 at 8:15 pm
so much for the habs / ducks rumors…….Ducks just traded Andy MacDonald ( center) to St louis for Doug Weight.
R.I.P. Rumor.
December 14, 2007 at 8:18 pm
my point taken!
December 14, 2007 at 10:57 pm
Before everyone jumps on Gainey this trade is entirely the fault of one man…Brian Burke. This one’s really weird, you’d figure there would be a host of GMs besides Gainey that would have put together a stronger offer. The Ducks are a deep team, but if they were making room for Niedermayer why not trade a defensemen? Was Schneider that hard to unload?
December 14, 2007 at 11:02 pm
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Posted on December 14th, 2007 at 8:18 pm. About ‘Habs in Philly’.
my point taken!
What point? The one where you know better then everyone else… if you knew any better why dont you apply for the job.
December 15, 2007 at 12:04 am
Understand my logic: Good GM’s, like Brian Burke, make moves, and don’t screw around making promises(like Gainey did in the offseason, to get a scorer). If Burke was our GM, I guarantee this franchise would not be in disaray for long, certainly not for 14 years, or even 4 years. Unfortunately, people, not many, but some dummies think Gainey is a good GM because he was a great player, but GREAT PLAYERS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO GREAT COACHES OR GREAT GM’S. Just look at Carbo. He’s our coach, (but hopefully for not much longer) because he’s good friends with Gainey. Whatever happened to the logic of, the most qualified and experienced person becoming a coach? I just don’t understand it. Savard, Houle, Tremblay. C’mon.
December 15, 2007 at 12:42 am
Hey, wait just one cottonplucin moment,er you sayin Gretzky can’t coach either?lol
December 15, 2007 at 8:35 am
This is Montreal the truth is some players do not want to play here period.
December 15, 2007 at 12:45 pm
4-1 over Philly. Amazing what can happen when you keep skating hard into the 2nd and 3rd periods isn’t it. And when someone actually goes to the front of the net. This is a better team then what they’ve been showing this last few weeks. Come on guys, get your home touch back tonight and beat up on the dirty Leafs…GO HABS GO !!!
December 15, 2007 at 10:48 pm
Yes Paul. You know more than Scotty Bowman.
December 19, 2007 at 11:46 am
I CERTAINLY KNOW MORE THAN U DTD.