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Habs Off Season Changes

  • What are the most important moves the Habs need to make in the off season?

    Which free agents need to be re-signed?

    Which free agents need to be pursued?

    Who needs to be brought up from Hamilton?

    Which players absolutely must go?

143 Comments
  1. Pactum, what kind of fan is so happy his team hasn’t done s h i t all these years since 93 ,and Don you don’t have any points when our record is this bad and Habs no 1,50 mil or 44 mil 0r 60 mil ,THE TEAMS A JOKE and that is unacceptable if you are a fan of the Canadiens,period !AND AS FOR ME NOT BEING A FAN,UP YOURS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. #2 nigelski says:
    April 25, 2007 at 6:24 am

    Mikko Koivu seems to be only good at shootouts so far, so I doubt he’d help anyone become a better team player, let alone Saku…

    Looks like another year with the final having a hot weather team in the final. SJ or the Ducks will probably make the finals, so they’ll be skating in slush for a few weeks. Not the way I like to see the game played, but this is Bettman’s NHL, not “MY NHL,” as those wetarded commercials say.

    If players and owners weren’t so greedy, perhaps there could be a return to the best of 3, 5, 7 ,7 like it once was. I love the game as much or more as the next die hard fan, but hockey in June is pathetic. Best of 7 in the first two rounds is overkill, IMO.

    Not that it would be so bad if Montreal were to be playing in June (hockey, not golf!).

  3. #3 Seoul_Korea says:
    April 25, 2007 at 9:29 am

    I don’t think any Habs fans are happy with missing the playoffs, but up until that 10 game losing skid we had a good chance of making something happen. Huet going down didn’t help team morale, regardless if you like him or not, he’s our number one until someone else can take the reins, ( I don’t think anyone was knocking him when he single handely got us into the playoffs last year).

    As for Gainey, the guy made a some mistakes this year, namely not getting rid of Sourray when he was worth something. I like Sourray as much as the next fan, he’s gritty, he dominates the point on the PP, he’s a inspiring guy in the locker room. But the main thing is, and I say this in the nicest possible way, he can’t play positional defense. Had Gainey traded him at the deadline we could have stolen another 1st round draft pick and possibly a mid-level player to deal away this summer. Now we face the possibility of getting nothing, or worse yet, signing him to an overinflated contract when we could easily sign a 25-30 goal scorer and a stay at home D-Man for the same price Sourray is going to command this summer. Markov and Komisarek are our franchise on D, and as much as everyone loves to hate on Boullion, before he got injured he was laying down some bone crunching hits so he deserves another shot. Streit has been a bright spot, not gonna be a top 4 D-Man but can be counted to at least play positional.

    As for the offense, I wish we could get rid of Kovalev, but like the majority of people are saying it doesn’t look like it’s going to happen. Let’s just hope he can keep up the spark that him, Latendresse and LaPierrre had going off in the end. Samsonov is a done deal, really sucks that he didn’t click with the Habs, maybe the media pressure got to him?

    I love Michael Ryder, has a wicked wrist shot from anywheres in the circle and take a lot of shots. He’s been our highest goal scorer for the last couple of years and has the potential to develop into an NHL sniper. As for his cons, he can’t do anything when he doesn’t have the puck, takes really bad penalities and has a tendency to go on long streaks without producing. I know this sounds crazy, but I could see him or Perezhogin being used as trade bait if the Habs do try and pull off a serious trade.

    Bonk and Johnson are both well adjusted players that make a gret combination on the 3rd line, and Bonk is especially excels on the PK. I don’t think Gainey will give Bonk more than what he is making, so I could see Bonk being dealt to free up some cap space. I really hope we re-sign Johnson, despite his lack of points, I think he’s a good two-way player.

    Saku Koivu is our a foundation. I hated when poeple this year dumped all over him for his lack of this or that, him not being big enough, et cetera, et cetera. The guy is the only one who has stuck out his career in Montreal in the last decade and can take the pressue of playing there. He may not be a dominant 1st line center like Lecalvier, but he is a play maker who can make people around him better.

    Montreal will make the playoffs next year and will prove to those that think we are a shitty team that we are only missing a few core players to make us a dominant NHL team. And for all those who shit on Gainey for our skid this year, WE COULD HAVE JFJ.

  4. #4 alestar says:
    April 25, 2007 at 10:52 am

    Seoul_Korea : Good, solid assessment and I agree on almost every point. For all the whining and moaning, we have a pretty solid team for next season if we can get Markov under contract. I also agree that Souray is not a very solid positional defenseman, but what he brings to the powerplay is worth looking at at least making an effort to re-sign him. I was surprised as anyone that Gainey did not trade him at the deadline, but maybe he knows something we don’t…

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  5. #5 Seoul_Korea says:
    April 25, 2007 at 12:25 pm

    Alestar: I know, I hate even trying to justify putting Sourray down. He was our go to guy this season when the chips were down. Someone on this site did make a good point that on the Spezza/ making Sourray look like a pylon move last year, there was no other defensemen even trying to make an effort in getting back in the play. Like you said, maybe Gainey has something up his sleeve. I really think we had the right stuff this year except for a few unlucky bounces.

  6. …a few unlucky bounces!!!

    I beg to differ…if only some of the free loaders showed up and gave an effort we probably would have won at least 2-4 games instead of losses. Blaming a total collapse on mere small pieces to build the puzzle is not the case here. We need an overhaul where the dead wood has to go…even down to the Bulldogs if it’s an alternative.

    When a collective effort is subpar, this is signs of something bigger and this was the case in far too many of those losses during that skid. mmm skid from late December right through to the last two weeks of the schedule!! #$@%!!

    Let’s hope for a blockbuster deal at the trade deadline. You gotta think Souray and Kovalev and Abischer got to be in the mix. My two cents.

  7. #7 Don Carnage says:
    April 25, 2007 at 8:51 pm

    Sam you dont get to trade UFA’s there is no deadline the season is over … Lets hope Montreal gets a shot at some superstar player ..

  8. #8 Rubberman says:
    April 25, 2007 at 9:10 pm

    Why can’t Koivu be traded? It’s time for new blood. He has value and if you look at the other side of the coin, he might enjoy playing where he is the 2nd centreman.

    Now, I’m not saying give him away, only trade him if you get a good deal and he lifts his no-trade clause.

  9. #9 Don Carnage says:
    April 25, 2007 at 9:23 pm

    If he is good enough to trade he is good enough to keep …

    I like Koivu I hope they keep him but not with the “C” I think he would play better without it.

  10. #10 Drive_4_25 says:
    April 25, 2007 at 9:42 pm

    All I have to say is Dump the Russian cancer on this team…? Yes I said it Kovalev is a lazy,selfish,egotistic,under-achieving,pre-madonna…That doesn’t deserve to wear a habs jersey let alone get paid 4.5 Mill to do so! This guy is the epitome LAZYNESS….and he makes me SICK!

  11. #12 Joshtm says:
    April 26, 2007 at 11:52 am

    Geeze Pactum must have his head in a pothole 24 hours a day. Listen a true fan cares about their team. Or as David Suzuki says, hey Pactum you must have your head up you know who’s backside so far up….

    I disagree with Johnson, I don’t think Johnson is a credit to the team. I agree if Koivu lost the C he would play better probably and concentrate on actually being a team player.

  12. #13 Joshtm says:
    April 26, 2007 at 2:11 pm

    If Gainey is not going to do any major changes, particularly with the real cancer on the team the duo of Dandenault and Bouillon, we need someone like Kovalev to get us over the slumps, he works well with the rookies, I say demote him to another line or something or use him sparingly.

  13. #14 Habs#1 says:
    April 26, 2007 at 5:22 pm

    Kovalev’s at it again:

    Once again, Alex Kovalev is settling accounts in a Russian daily.

    In an interview (published) last Friday in Soviet Sport and translated by Radio-Canada Sports, Kovalev has again cast in doubt his future in Montreal. At the centre of it now is how he’s used.

    “At the end of the season, I had a discussion with GM Bob Gainey,” Kovalev explained to Pavel Alexandrovich Lysenkov, the author of Kovalev’s official biography. “I told (Gainey) that I didn’t want to be back on the team if I’m treated the same way as I was (this past) season.”

    Kovalev evidently was referring to his days in the doghouse, when he was relegated to the Canadiens’ fourth line. That’s where he finished the season, flanking centre Maxim Lapierre along with Guillaume Latendresse.

    Reached at the end of Wednesday afternoon (by Radio-Canada Sports), Kovalev’s agent, Scott Greenspun, had no comment, except to say that his client is on vacation in the Cayman Islands.

    Kovalev said in the interview that the problem as he sees it is not one created by the media, but one within the team itself.

    “Journalists can accuse me of anything they want, I’m not going to give that any importance,” Kovalev said. “But when your team doesn’t support you, when it gives you a secondary role that won’t let me play, and all without explanation… that’s hard (to digest).”

    Money is far from his priority, says Kovalev (who will earn $9 million U.S. over the final two seasons of his Canadiens contract). “What’s most important is to have fun,” he said, “and for now, that’s not the case in Montreal.”

    The Soviet Sport article centred on Kovalev’s non-participation in the upcoming world championship, to take place in Moscow. Kovalev was captain of the Russian team at the 2006 Turin Olympics.

    He is said to have not been pleased with the team selection of national-team boss Sergei Fedorov, who explained to Kovalev that he was building a young team for the event.

    What a fucking disgrace he is. I hope he just realises he blows and retires back to Russia.

  14. I am amazed at the media coverage Kovalev is getting this time and the common stance from across the country ,weather your a Habs fan or not. How embarrassing is it when fans of the other teams who state they hate the Canadians, feel sorry for us and want Kovalev gone too !!!
    Kovalev and Samsonov are the biggest mistakes Gainey have made and not only did Bob embarrass himself on these signings ,but he has embarrassed the Canadiens and their FANS !!!!!! Pathetic , is the feeling expressed from across the second largest country in the world,so Kovalev must go Bob,ALL OF CANADA ,NOT JUST HABS FANS ,WANT HIM GONE BOB GAINEY,MAKE IT SO !!!
    On a brighter note for G. M. Gainey ,I do believe he would make a fine Prime Minister!Only he could bring this vast country together,no matter what their stance on issues are, to a common agreement,wow !!!lol

  15. Kovalev is a skilled player…however, the attitude and heart is not there. He is a selfish player and unless he has someone feeding him the puck or someone creating space for him to dance, he will be a “cry baby”. The slightest hit and knock and he’s out.

    I am so disillusioned to see that he becomes invisible on the last two games of the season. That’s where he has to give his all and he simply chose to go for the skate. I bet you his jersey wasn’t even wet. It went straight into the bag ready for his next game; which I hope is not with the Canadiens. I would love to be here typing positives and expressing what an excellent player he is and the leadership he provides but I can’t. I hope another team takes him…see Pittsburgh they probably have the type of players to make him effective. Remember he can’t be the main guy and if you give him space and feed him the puck he will become an effective producer. However, that’s not in the Canadien’s scope. He was brought in to be the scoring machine but alone that would not work (because he wouldn’t be able to cope (remember he’s selfish and in his mind, the others should be producing or he’s going to slide and go for his walk in the park – non-chalant attitude). That’s the proof in the puddding. See ya Kovalev but not in a Habs jersey.

  16. Kovalev needs to go, it is obvious he does not want to play in Montreal and we can bring up some of the younger players to take his spot. Give the spot to someone who wants to play in Montreal and not someone who whines and bitches all the time like Kovalev. I am sick and tired of his whining. We need to rid ourselves of the cancers on the team, i.e. Kovalev, Samsonov. These guys show no heart and do not deserve to wear the CH. They are useless bums who should be thrown on the scrap heap or just retire. They are both morons. I hate them with a passion and wish they never wear the CH of the Habs ever again. Gainey needs to be more active in the free-agent market this summer. He said he was going to be active last summer and we all know how that turned out. He needs to stay true to his word and get the right type of players who want to play for the Habs. Sign good free-agents. I agree with some of the posts here that in 2-3 years the Canadiens will be like the Sabres and Predators and winning division titles and maybe even the Presidents trophy but we also need to sign the right players right now. They will become Stanley Cup contenders again someday and win Stanley Cups in a few years, but we have to be patient and let that day come!

    Ziman

  17. #18 nigelski says:
    April 27, 2007 at 6:30 pm

    So Kovalazy’s crying to the russian media again. Does he deny it once more like the cowardly liar he is, or does he take ownership of his comments this time?

    The answer is: who cares?!?!? He can bitch and whine all he likes, but the contract he signed makes him untradeable, and even HE should realize this. As Mike Milbury isn’t an NHL GM anymore, there’s little hope of a trade here. Buying the undeserving stiff out will hurt the team for 4 seasons, @ 2/3rds of the $4.5 mil he’s owed for the next 2 seasons, so THAT’S no option. Who’s gonna take a lazy 47 point $4.5 million piece of monkey dung? The answer is no one will. Ever.

    I’ve said we should demote Samsonov to the ECHL on many occasions rather than buy him out, and I stick by that. If Kovalazy is so unhappy, let’s see how he likes riding the bus for two years. He won’t. I say, don’t even give him a chance at training camp, just loan him to the worst and willing ECHL team that exists, and wait for the inevitable retirement announcement. He’s no Mogilny, to take the demotion in stride and just collect his paycheck–his ego spans whole continents.

    Perhaps that’s where his bullsh_it vertigo and fake injuries came from. Will other UFAs think badly of us for treating him this way? I doubt it, as most, if not all, of the NHL knows what a heartless slacker he is, either from being on his team, or by playing against the puke. I’m so sick of these russian and european primadonnas who think they are better than the game. Take Backstrom, the Capitals 1st pick in last year’s draft. They get Ovechkin to call his name at draft time, and try to pep talk him into coming over for last season.

    If I’m a draftee, and one of the most exciting players in the game shows up like that, and tries to talk me imnto coming over to NA right away, I’m listening. What does he do? Stays in Sweden for at least one more year. The Sedin sisters refused to come over at all if they weren’t drafted by the same team. The number of examples I could go on to list is endless: how about Bure holding (or trying to hold) Florida hostage by saying he could get 8 mil in Belarus?

    It’s past time all NHL teams started to realize that 98% of non North Americans only come here to make money. They don’t care about the cup, and unselfish play is part of a myth in Europe. If I were GM of any NHL team, I wouldn’t give any more than a 2 year contract to any russian, swede, finn, or belarussian. Did I mention a Swiss, German, Kasakstanian, dhirka dhirka dhirka, dane, norwegian, frog from france, tcheknian, etc.?!?!? The label handed to Jacques Demers was 5 year contract, 3 year act, but the likes of Kovalev don’t even give you the first year, they only give you the last.

    I don’t care if anyone thinks I’m a racist. The facts bear me out on this one. Sure, there are canadian players that don’t give their all, and russians that do, but the large majority of canadians are heart and soul types, whereas the euros are money-grabbing tin-men who care more about olympic gold than any number of cup rings.

    I think that it should be mandatory for all but the most skilled of euros to play a season in the AHL after being drafted. 40-45 games is what they play in the so-called elite leagues, which doesn’t hold a candle to the 65 in the OHL, or the 80 in the AHL. It’s no wonder 95% of euros disappear in the playoffs–they’ve been gone since mid-January, and their alleged conditioning is non-existant.

    Well, that’s today’s rant. Hope I didn’t offend all of you, but if I did, it’s because I believe what I’m saying, and won’t hide behind political correctness and social nicities anymore. As the Thing would say, “‘Nuff said!”

  18. #19 nigelski says:
    April 27, 2007 at 6:57 pm

    By the way, how about a new blog to comment on? I haven’t gone into hibernation, why has the site?

  19. YOU ROCK nigelski,and please keep it coming !!!!

  20. #21 Kostitsyn's#1fan says:
    April 27, 2007 at 9:46 pm

    Remember in an interview “Kovalev” said ( when i was young i had heart problems, was that bu–sh-t to? Kovy guess what you still have heart problems only this time it’s cause your heart is pumping raw “Sh-t”, vertigo your an idiot, why don’t you go back to Moscow and get a job at “LADA” assembly chain, that should keep you motivated, your a disgrace to all great Russian players like Larionov, Bure, Ovechkin ect. Actually not even your own COUNTRY wants you back. After all this “Samsonov” must be so happy lately, all the bad attention’s on The Russian Tzar(Kovy) right now.

  21. #22 nigelski says:
    April 28, 2007 at 8:10 pm

    Ever had a wish come true? I did, the other day. Way back in a blog earlier in the season, early April anyway, we were all having a discussion on which commentators we hated the most, and the subsequent brutal punishments that they had incurred for their insolence (at least as we saw it…). I was all over Healey and Macguire, and typed a fervent desire to see one or both (preferably both) of them get smoked while commentating at ice level.

    “And the message of the lord is, praise the lord!” My diabolical prayers to the Evil Gods Of Hockey were answered in a most satisfying way.

    Whereas before, I was ever left with a bitter taste in my mouth, the puke chunks rising as if of their own accord, to the back of my throat at the babbling Macguirisms, it all transformed to triumph in an ecstatic split second–as Pierre took one to the head! Ah, vindication, I thought, with nigh psychotic glee. Sweet vindication!!!

    I’m here to say that I called it, and the deserved punishment was meted out by the Evil Gods of Hockey. His endless trite prattling was silenced, if but for a mere nanosecond, by the – truly – glorious puck that smacked him one up side the head. Sincerely, the highlight of the night for us Macguire bashers…

    He’s currently sporting a sweet reminder, and my only regret is that some form of post concussion syndrome didn’t leave him on the sidelines for the remainder of the post season.

    One down, several more to go!!!

  22. #23 La Verite says:
    April 28, 2007 at 11:03 pm

    The Sedins never said that they wouldn’t come over if they weren’t drafted by the same team.

  23. #24 nigelski says:
    April 29, 2007 at 6:30 am

    Yeah, they did. Why do you think Burke moved hell and high water to make sure he got them both? For the thin pleasure of their company?

  24. #25 Habs#1 says:
    April 29, 2007 at 10:47 am

    the sedins DID say they would only come over if they played for the same team. That’s a fact.

  25. #26 LJ55 says:
    April 29, 2007 at 4:44 pm

    no the sedins never said that. Why do you think Burke moved hell and high water to make sure he got them both? because they habe been playing together since they were in diapers, and obviously have unparalled chemistry. they are better together than they are apart.

    the sedins never said they wouldn’t come over unless drafted by the same team, stop and think about it. they were what number 2 and 3 picks correct and i don’t know many teams who have had 2 top 3 picks in the same draft. Vancouver traded for one of the picks on draft day. so I guess your saying that if Vancouver didn’t trade for the number 2 or 3 pick the Sedins wouldn’t be playing in the NHL right now because it was highly unlikely for them getting drafted by the same team when they are both ranked in the top 5.

  26. #27 PeterStone says:
    April 29, 2007 at 5:18 pm

    This may be a repeat .. technical difficulties … i will shorten it tho

    Goners > Abby, Niinimaa, Bonk, Johnson, Downey, and maybe Samsonov.

    I would try to trade Samsonov for D. Morris (PHX) who has 2 yrs at 3.9M per. I would also try to resign our DMen Souray and Markov.

    Others are replaced by our farm Halak, Lapierre, Kostitsyn, Begin( who missed lots of games last year ). I am, like most fans , disappointed with Samsonov and Kovalev, but when there is SO much dissension on one team , the COACH has to accept responsibility … he manages the players and the team …

    Anyways, team would look like

    G >> Huet, and Halak
    D >> Souray, Komisarek
    Morris, Markov
    Dandeneault, Gorges >>>> 7th Bouillon/Dandeneault ( depending on team )
    F >>
    Latendresse, Koivu, Kovalev
    Kostitsyn, Plekanek, Higgins, ( lots of succes to end the season )
    Begin, Lapierre, Streit ( shutdown/PK )
    Ryder, Perezhogin, Free Agent ( Bertuzzi/Shanahan … who most likely wont come)so, I believe Mr Gainey will have to trade for a Solid Winger.

    And we would have a ton of $$ left at the deadline … either way, we’ll see what happens on draft day

  27. #28 Habs#1 says:
    April 29, 2007 at 7:16 pm

    I remember watching the Sedin draft, and I remember them saying they wouldn’t play on different teams. I remember that exactly. It’s a fact.

  28. #29 habs4ever says:
    April 29, 2007 at 9:12 pm

    I don’t recall the twins eer saying that, I know it was the perception giving by the media and so-called hockey experts, unless you can prove it with a quote, i’m gonna assume its false. bonk will need a paycut and def worth keeping at a lower salary, souray needs to be a goner, at 5 per he aint worth 1/2 of it.. johnson stays too.. out are niinamaa, samsonov, hopfully kovalev and abby.. sign a number 1 centre and 2 dman, and get rid of begin, hes terrible..

  29. #30 nigelski says:
    April 30, 2007 at 6:06 am

    To: laverite and lj55—the results of a google search have provided me with the following proof: http:cgi.cnnsi.com/hockey/nhl/1999/draft/news/06/26/nhldraft_twins/index.html .

    In this story, archived regarding the 1999 NHL draft, Brian Burke is quoted on the Sedin’s refusal to play in the NHL unless drafted for the same team. For at least two seasons. Sorry I don’t know how to put that address into a hyperlink for you, but I had to write it down before I typed it, and all you have to do is cut and paste it into your search bar. So unless Brian Burke and established NHL writers are all wrong, it seems I was right.

    Habs#1 and I will gladly hear typed apologies from you 2 doubters, or not, as your pride dictates. ;)

  30. #31 nigelski says:
    April 30, 2007 at 6:42 am

    I think Gainey will make a splash at this year’s draft. He’s going to make a deal or two. I’m not certain what moves will be made, but he does have 2 1st round draft picks to work with, though neither are particularily high. Angelo Esposito could actually be available with the 12th pick, as he’s dropped down to 8th in the NA rankings. Not something I saw coming. His offensive upside is huge though, much like the late drafted Phil Kessel, so he’ll likely be gone before #12 in any event. Gainey should trade up to get him, regardless, as we need offense on this team. Defensive shortcomings can be ironed out over time, but gifted offensive stars in the making have been few and far between in Mtl.

    I admittedly know little about the players in this draft, and all the experts are dismissing it as weak. If we can’t land Esposito, the picks could be packaged with a player to land an impact forward. The UFA signings of Kovalev and Samsonov have proven fruitless, and only two or three of the available UFAs would be a good fit. That’s why he’ll likely take the trade route at the draft.

    Without knowing who exactly is available makes it difficult to put names to the prospective deals. As team needs are different, it is also hard to say who might want to obtain 2 1st rounders in a weak draft. Suffice to say, any team with serious depth problems are possible trade partners, and teams with strong minor league systems are less apt to deal.

    In a perfect world, the draft would see the team rid of Kovalev and Samsonov, but this is very improbable. Even trading one of them would be a coup. Gainey has his work cut out for him, and it’s a hole of his own making there. How he responds this summer should decide his fate.

    If Gainey can get a frontline prospect like Esposito, trade for a top 6 forward, and get a few diamond in the rough type players in later rounds, the draft should be considered a success. If he manages to trade one of our two cancers, even for minimal gain, the success will be even greater. Could he also re-sign the d-men and land a UFA like Briere, July will be a happy month.

    Sure, that’s a lot of ‘ifs’, ‘coulds’, ‘mightas’, and ‘probablys’, but it’s the dead zone here with no playoffs, so I’ve little better than rampant speculation to do. And various rants.

    Gainey’s deadline moves, or lack thereof, haven’t left me brimming with any confidence in his abilities, so this is doubtlessly idle thinking. This is what I would try to accomplish though. For whatever it’s worth.

    I’d like to read the draft day strategies of others on this board. If there is a player at the draft we should target, tell us all your thoughts. Perhaps the blogger could take the time to create a new topic with that as the topic. Some might feel it falls under the category of “Off Season Changes,” and it does, but it’s just a tad more specific. So let’s hear what you’ve got, Habs Nation!

  31. #32 habs4ever says:
    April 30, 2007 at 12:27 pm

    Well thanks for the link. I havnt read it, but I’ll assume since you posted it you were right, although I don’t recall it. Well Gainey definately needs to make some deals. I dunno what exactly. I would like to see markov resigned and souray let go, his asking price will handcuff us with 2 or 3 already overpaid stiffs in kovalev and sammy. I would love to go after briere or ryan smyth and if we can dump the salaries of kovalev, sammy, abby, niinamaa, we should have some wiggle room to make significant changes. Although I don’t see us being able to rid them all, unless we do some sort of buyout, and even then, i’m not exactly sure how that would apply to the cap, but if we can get rid of them for minimal returns I would be happy with that. I’m not sold on Esposito, think he has Daigle written all over him. I’d like to see 2 top4 dman signed for relatively cheap, if at all possible, a number 3 and 4 dman. And either briere or smyth. Then some minor depth deals, we have an opportunity here, any chance someone will take kovalev if pay a portion of his salary? and if so, does the portion we pay apply against the cap.

  32. #33 habsfan_for_life1212 says:
    April 30, 2007 at 3:36 pm

    i do not see montreal keeping their draft pick the way it is at this moment. They will be either trading up to get a blue-chipper or they will trade away the pick entirely for immediate help. That is my opinion. If we can’t get in the top 5 then i say trade the pick. I have no interest in esposito. There are so many good young prospects in the habs system that i believe it would be alright to trade away our first round picks. We are already overflowing with future NHLers. The team needs some veteran leadership. Here are a few young players that are all under 25 in montreals system or on the team at the moment that are NHL boundor already there.
    Goal
    -carey Price
    -Jaroslav Halak
    Defense:
    -MIke Komisarek
    -Alexei emelin
    -Pavel Valentenko
    -Josh Gorges
    -Mathieu Carle
    -David Fisher
    -Cameron Cepek (not so sure bout him)
    -O’byrne
    -J-PCote
    FOrwards:
    -Chris Higgins
    -MIchael Ryder(he’s 26 but wtv)
    -Tomas PLekanec
    -Guillaume Latendresse
    -Maxim Lapierre
    -Andrei Kostitsyn
    -Mikahil grabovski
    -Kyle Chipchura
    -Mathieu Aubin
    -Corey Locke
    -Cory Urquart
    -Duncan Milroy
    -Matt D’agostini
    -Ryan White
    -Ben Maxwell
    -Sergei Kostitsyn
    -Juraj Mikus
    As you can see, montreal’s got more then enough depth to trade away some picks in this year’s draft. There are only 6 blue-chip players in this years draft and they are:
    -Voracek
    -Kane
    -Turris
    -Alzner
    -Van reimsdik
    -Gagner
    ANyway my lineup for next year is:
    KOstitsyn – Drury – Higgins
    Ryder – Koivu – Latendresse
    Perezhogin – Plekanec – Johnson(yes i know Joshtm)
    MIlroy – Lapierre – Begin

    Komisarek – Markov
    Emelin – Dandenault
    streit – O’byrne
    Gorges

    Huet
    Halak

    No souray, no bonk, no Abby, no niinimaa, no bouillon, no samsononv and no kovalev. Drury would be an amazing pickup. Gainey is slowly letting the youngsters take control of this team.

  33. #34 nigelski says:
    May 1, 2007 at 8:35 am

    While you have some valid points, habsfan4life1212, I am not as sold on the organizational depth as you are. I don’t consider the likes of Locke, D’Agnosti, Urquhart, Cote, and others as blue-chippers. And Drury alone won’t solve any offensive shortcomings this team has. I like Drury as much as the next guy, but he’s an American, and wants to play in America, as evinced by his desire to get out of Calgary. I just don’t see him coming here.

    It is a weak draft, by all accounts, so trading the picks for an established player isn’t a bad idea. At the same time, BECAUSE it’s a weak draft, those two picks won’t be worth a lot. They’re not 1st and 3rd overall, they’re 12th and 20something. So my concern is whether there is any real value in trading the picks at all. If the brass decides that is the case, maybe they’ll try to trade up and get either one of the players you listed, or Espy or whoever they feel is a good fit (based of course, on who is still available).

    Though I’m in favor of a team with no Kovalev, another team would have to be stupid to trade for a 47 point, $4.5 million guy who has proven time and time again that he has no desire. This makes me believe we’re stuck with him for at least one more year. Perhaps we’ll find a taker when there’s only one year left at $4.5 mil.

  34. #35 Rubberman says:
    May 1, 2007 at 8:10 pm

    The Habs are stuck with both Kovalev and Sammi. Sorry, don’t know how to spell their names.

    What to do? I wouldn’t buy them out. Make them play another year. Sammi would step it up a notch and I’d use Kovalev where he would excel, on the powerplay, on the point.

    Say what you want, but you can’t buy these free loaders out. They don’t deserve it. The coach has to lay the law down and stick to it. Call Kovalev out in the dressing room. Say it, “You think you’re great, prove it on the ice by scoring goals”. If you get lazy, sit the fuck down, you freaking commie!

    Tell it like it is, he got to earn your money. Ride his ass. Do it on the bench, during a game. Make sure that the rookies/young guys know that Kovy’s getting one last break and if doesn’t produce, ship him to the minors. Same goes for Sammy.

  35. #36 Rubberman says:
    May 1, 2007 at 8:10 pm

    The Habs are stuck with both Kovalev and Sammi. Sorry, don’t know how to spell their names.

    What to do? I wouldn’t buy them out. Make them play another year. Sammi would step it up a notch and I’d use Kovalev where he would excel, on the powerplay, on the point.

    Say what you want, but you can’t buy these free loaders out. They don’t deserve it. The coach has to lay the law down and stick to it. Call Kovalev out in the dressing room. Say it, “You think you’re great, prove it on the ice by scoring goals”. If you get lazy, sit the fuck down, you freaking commie!

    Tell it like it is, he got to earn your money. Ride his ass. Do it on the bench, during a game. Make sure that the rookies/young guys know that Kovy’s getting one last break and if doesn’t produce, ship him to the minors. Same goes for Sammy.

  36. That explains the blog name Rubberman?lol

  37. #38 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    May 4, 2007 at 10:30 am

    Eklund interesting off-season talk or should i say BS:

    Not sure that this guy has ever been right, but here are some whoppers floating around. It would be a big splash no doubt:

    “More confirmation last night from a scout at the game that Vinny could be dealt and according to this source, Montreal and Vancouver were the most likely destinations. The source also said he heard that Price would be included in the deal”

    and

    “The Avs will make a serious play for Sheldon Souray. Another team that could grab Souray is the Flames, should they choose to not bring back Stuart and/or Hamrlik.”

    So if you’re the GM, do you make the move trading a future prospect like Price, and no doubt others such as a Higgins, Kostitysn, Pleks, or Ryder and one of the 1st rounder’s for Vinny? Interesting for sure…. something to contemplate in the off months? Not to say this deal is on the table, but hypothetically would you pull the trigger if it were in front of you? I have been wrestling with the idea ever sense I read this rumor

    As for Souray rumors, there are getting little old, and I think he’ll be gone in the end once a bidding war dollars go over $5.25. I am not seeing a 30 goal scoring Defenseman (at best)being most via PP, even with locker-room leadership presence with hopes of improvement with his two way capabilities being worth franchise player money. I do not see Gainey leveraging him as our franchise player dashing our hopes of bringing in goal scoring forwards. Not to say we should not try to keep him, but its hard to see him settling for less out of appreciation to organization.

    For the void I see Gainey making a play for OTT Pressing or at least a more balanced D-man with PP play point capabilities.

    On a different note does anyone question the fact that for being a UFA, it seems Markov is tipping his cards pretty early? Do not get me wrong, I think it is great the desire to play for the habs is expressed openly, but seems strange at some level. Dealing with agents, which most believe Mehan is one of shrewdest in the game, I can not help to think he is dreaming up some sinister plan…

    The conspiracy goes a little like this… Mehan knows Montreal wants to retaint Markov and Markov wants to stay. Good so far! We all know the Russian stigma going around Montreal is at an all time high, so Mehan knows Montreal wants to show a Russian player in a positive light. Mehan knows Montreal is going to have a difficult time signing Sheldon and that it would be a disaster to lose both high profile UFAs. In Markov wanting to return, puts himself in strong favor with the hab’s fans going even further by publicly praising the organization. All this adds up to Markov getting a payday while looking like the hero. I hope there are no ulterior motives, but a UFA stating he wants to return and sign before testing the waters to see what he is worth in the open market seems almost too good to be true. Everyone knows when things seem too good to be true they usually are, especially when it evolves money.

    Interesting what will unfold over the summer…

    Go Habs Go

  38. #39 HabsFan says:
    May 5, 2007 at 10:12 am

    If Montreal is ever going to finish in the top 4 of the Eastern Conference, they need to stop going after guys like Samsonov. Sure Gainey didn’t think that he would be this bad, but for $3.5 million, he should’ve paid more and got someone substantially better. Kovalev+Samsonov= Bag of Hockey Pucks.

    Let the young guys get better (i.e. Kostitsyn (Andrei and Sergei), Perezhogin and Price) and we don’t need so many “shut-down” guys. I put quotation marks on shut-down because none of them are particularly good at it. Begin, Bonk, Johnson, Lapierre and Streit.

    If there is an available trade, Gainey should trade Halak, Draft pick and Kovalev for a 75+ point guy.

    Wouldn’t be the end of the world if Souray didn’t sign either, it would just save us $5 million in cap room for a guy who is shaky on defence. Markov needs to be given the chance for that shot, he has the ability.

  39. I agree this is Bobs year to inprove the team or him and Carbo have to be replaced.Bobs been here for 4 years now.This team is no better now than when he took over. All our best players come from past gm’s.Our farm team is better but not our big team.His free agent signings and alot of his trades have not help us.For a team that is always close to the cap and not making the playoffs is unexseable.Bob,you need to get creative in trying to trade Kovy and Samy.Every gm makes mistakes Bob,just like Souray you should of traded him when you had the chance.You probly could of had a first round and a good prospect for him,now you’ll to overpay him to save face or lose him for nothing.You of all people should of know this team was going nowhere.Thats why good gm’s don’t give away good players for nothing.look at Edmonton with Ryan Smith.My armchair gm trades

    to chicago Kovy,Dandy,2first round picks, Georges

    to habs Seebrook, Johnaton toews

    we get a good young def. in Seebrook and a very goodyoung player in toews
    and save about 6.000.000 in capspace.

    Chicago gets Kovy to play with Havlat, Dandy on def. a prospect in Georges which by the way,he won’t make our team anyways and 2 first round picks.Thats the only way your going to get rid of Kovy.Now you can try Samy at the start of the year and if he doesn’t pan out send him down to the farm team or buy him out.

  40. I expect Sheldon Souray will be playing for the Leafs Nation next season. Montreal will just have to grin and bare it just like they did when the Leafs ousted them from the play-offs

    thesarge@rogers.com

  41. #42 Donnie says:
    June 11, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    What should the Habs do in the off-season? Two words…..”GET OFFENSE”. I think in todays game, relying on old time defensive style games is gonna get you exactly where its gotten Montreal this past year. That is, unless you can have 2 Norris thophy candidates on the blue line…then you can win the cup apparently. But even Anaheim has a balanced offensive attack up front, and a goalie like Giguere.None of which our Habs have. Its time to get back to the run-and-gun, high-flying, Lafleur-type games. Simply outscore the opposition. Montreal needs offense badly. They need much better scorers than they have and management needs to let them loose with the offensive freedom they need. Don’t rely on the 10 minutes of power play time you get each game to do ALL your scoring in..Here, hows this for a very simple logic…….high powered offense means goals…goals make your score go up…..when your score goes up you win games……when you win games you get alot of points….and with alot of points you make the playoffs. Does anyone else see it this way????? A great goalie between the pipes is a great bonus. Take a lesson from last seasons Penguins….a home ice advantage spot in the payoffs with nothing but offense. Fleury would let in 4 or 5 goals a game but Pittsburgh would score 6 or 7. Worry about bettering the Penguins playoff performance when you get there. Small steps guys, and ity all starts with forwards who can get more than 20 goals and 50 points in the regular season. Just my 2 cents.GO HABS GO !!

  42. #43 HAB FAN 4 LIFE says:
    June 26, 2007 at 8:42 am

    I say the habs should get rid of their current two netminders Abby and Huet since look at the talent we got comming up we got Halak and especially Price now Montreal is in a good goaltending situation. Also Huet you would get a pretty valuable player in a trade. I have one question why do we keep getting europians and russians? What happened with our team being pratically made of French Canadians? Russians has not done us any good Kovalev,Samsonov… GET RID OF ALL THE RUSSIANS!!

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