Habs visit MSG
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The Habs take the ice at MSG to take on the Rangers. The Rangers are playing well and lead the Canadiens by a single point. Jaroslav Halak will get the start once again.
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- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
- stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
- goalie : Markov for Beauchemin - an injury prone d-man for an ;old timer'd-man. Beauchemin is NOT what the Habs need in my opinion. He is a HUGE defensive liability.
- goalie : Stuo 11 I'd make that trade with Oilers fast BUT I doubt the Oilers will make that. Two marginal d-men at the best for a switch of first round picks - not a chance .
- stuo11 : markov for beachemin?
- stuo11 : let moen go
- stuo11 : maybe try and get steve begin back
- stuo11 : we wouldve kicked out all other teams but pens, sens,
- stuo11 : pens have alot of forwaRDS same with us but we have better goaltending
- stuo11 : theres styles of play goalie. Sens played us good, but lost games to southeast teams florida and tampa and get crushed by leafs EVERYTIME. sens and leafsd cant beat bruins but we do frequently
- stuo11 : Diaz weber and our 1st for their first edm
- goalie : SEns beat us 4 games to 1. Pens had last night's game under their control. What does that mean if we were up vs the Pens in a series. I think the Habs have a way to go before we're competing for Lord Stanley's Cup!
- Senet1 : If he could score goals like Lucic and we could sign him to a four year contract then I would consider it too. However, NOT if we only have him for one to two years.
- Senet1 : So we went from 27th pick to 21st pick.
- goalie : Normally I would not trade draft picks BUT if we could get a consistently, solid player (especially forward) who is BIG I'd trade one of our picks.
- Senet1 : The good part of this is with both Detroit and Boston moving on to the 2nd round it makes our draft position better, we move up the list by two.
- Senet1 : Bruins beat leafs in OT. It was hard but I was hoping the Leafs beat the Bruins. They had a4-1 lead in the third and two goal lead with less than 4 minutes and lost. Sound familiar.
- Senet1 : The thing is just because you get those guys does not guarantee that you will even make the playoffs or get out of the first round. Look at Detroit they built a strong team and organization and have been at the top for years. Yet they only have had a chance to win it two or three times. No matter how good you are you still need the breaks. So putting yourself in position to win is the most important thing to do year after year.
- stuo11 : i think rightnow we came 2nd in east, a few tough players and we could win it all. why wait? id rather win the cup and not make playoffs the next year!
- stuo11 : and save 4 mill
- stuo11 : ryan clowe or raffi torres! and then a big defencemen! trade markov and gionta for Cammalleri. crap for crap but at least hes canadian and good in playoffs lol
- stuo11 : goalie and muller, we outplayed the sens, real bad luck, major injuries! i still find were the better team. If the nhl wasnt so dumb about zibinejads goal itd be totally different!
- Senet1 : Don't TRADE DRAFT PICKS for one to three year wonders.
- Senet1 : Sorry guys but I would not trade our draft picks. We have 1 in the first round, 2 early second rounds + our own 2nd round pick and a good third round pick. We have finally got a chance to build this team like Detroit did and be able to stay up in the upper group of teams for a long time. If we blow this draft we blow our long term success. There are some players we can trade away and hopefully get some rugged players in return and or more draft picks. We have shown other players that we have
- goalie : I agree with Muller. I'm not sure how many high / mid draft choices we have but I'd be looking to make some moves (even trade draft choices) for a couple of proven, rugged, players who can help us immediately.
- muller93 : Well MB is a finalist for the GM of the year and I for one will say he did a great job with the Habs. We are just a few players away from having a real contender for years to come. But I really don't want to bank on this years draft--We need some NHL ready players. Hab fans have waited long enough and we have a good foundation. Lets trade some players along with some draft picks and get some big players in here. This is the only problem I see.
- Senet1 : The leafs were intimidated early not from size but just not believing they could beat Boston and they did not get good goaltending early. Now they believe that they can beat the bruins and I would not be surprised if they do because they have faster than boston. They are beating boston to the puck similar to the way we beat them to the puck. They are exploiting their defence with their speed. So as long as Reimer gives them goaltending they have a chance.
- goalie : Senet has it right. Other teams have drafted skill, size and dedication. Those players are out there.
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January 7, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Jaro had better have a ‘bounce back’ game tonight or we could be seeing Denis for a bunch of games. We never seem to play good defense when the goaltending situation is shaky. I’d like to see Andrei Kostitsyn really step it up as we head towards the all-star break. He has the skills to be an elite forward in this league if he could just develop the confidence and work ethic required. Hopefully playing with his brother will inspire him to turn on the goals. Having him rolling would take a lot of the pressure off of the other guys who are struggling offensively.
January 7, 2009 at 11:11 pm
Well all year I have been hearing how bad a skater Latendresse is and the last few games he has shown me that he in fact can skate and how about that goal he scores againt the rangers. Anyone who could not skate could not have be in that position to score a goal. I have been saying all along this guy needs to time to develop, and Carbo I think got his message through to him back in late November to start performing working hard and using your body. He has been doing all of that and with Lapierre they making that fourth line look like our second line should look. Playing hard. Also I have been hearing noise from a lot of you about them being on the power play, well because of them starting on that power play in the third they drew another penalty giving us the 5 on 3 that put the game away. I think a few of you should eat your works. Especially those that have been critizing Carbo’s coaching tackics.
January 7, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Lapierre is becoming another Carbonneau frustrating the good players with his checking and in your face type of play as well scoring some goals. Our fourth line is starting too look similar to the our checking line of the Gainey/Carbonneau eras.
Great coaching job by all our coaches, in getting this team turned around especailly with all the injuries. Looks like we may have tradable players when the return from injury.
January 7, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Halak played better than average, couple of weak goals but he came up big when we needed him to. Lang played a good game, and our fourth or is it our third line played great again. Chips line I guess should e considered our fourth line and they played well too, lots of energy, puck rotation and fore checking. I like what I am seeing. Our defence played sound as well except for our good friend Brisebois. He made some bad plays again tonight. Fortunately he got bailed out each time.
January 8, 2009 at 1:31 am
I’m really happy to see the power play working again. The boys did seem poised out there
passing the puck around crisply. Also happy for Halak. I agree…. a couple of softies, but he was absolutely huge when he had to be.
January 8, 2009 at 12:28 pm
It was a great win for the Habs for a couple reasons: By all accounts Carey Price is still a week away at least from returning from his “lower body” injury. Having a goaltender who is confident to replace him is critical, and last night Halak showed that he is still the goalie we remember from last season. Last night he was much stronger in the crease and made a few spectacular saves when he had to. As a few of you have noted, he still gave up a couple “soft” goals that Carey would have had, as well as some atrocious rebounds – but all in all it was a solid outing from a player that we are definitely going to have to rely on for the near future.
Secondly, I thought the Canadiens defense did an excellent job of collapsing to the crease area in order to get rid of loose pucks and rebounds. Considering how many goals are scored in this manner in the NHL, it is crucial that your forwards and defense can collapse to the net and be ready to get the opposition and puck away from dangerous scoring areas. Having Mike Komisarek back there is critical to our defensive success. It would be nice to see Brisebois take a seat sometime in the near future to see if O’Byrne remembers that he’s a hockey player. If his absence continues for too long, we can definitely forget about him ever turning into a useful player. Considering it was his defensive lapses that got him into trouble, one would hope Carbo has noticed how many times Breezer has been blown by lately. He is a great insurance policy, but the team is going to have to replace his spot to have a strong D going forward. Maybe use Weber if O’Byrne is still in the doghouse?
I absolutely agree with you Senet1 on Latendresse. While I have been unimpressed with his play from time to time, we are now seeing what patience and coaching can do for a young player who is full of potential. For the first time in his career Latendresse looks as big and powerful as he really is. And while I doubt he’ll ever be a serious goal scorer in this league (I hope I take that back some day), he is turning into an incredible asset along with Maxime Lapierre and Tom Kostopolous. The way those guys are playing right now, they are opening up the opportunities that Lang had on his second goal last night, by wearing out he defense, and making them think that they are going to have to battle in the corners on every rush. Its exactly what this team needs.. a little room for the talented players to work their magic.
Sometimes in Montreal we are too quick to write off players who need a little extra time to develop. We forget that Lafleur didn’t find real success until his fourth season. We forget that the Rocket was in his third season before he started scoring. Most guys struggle until they develop the muscle, confidence and skills to succeed at a pro level. I just wish that in assessing the talent that we have on the roster Montreal fans would remember that more often than not, players take time to develop and that when we get rid of our prospects as a reaction to their early career, we are setting the team up to miss potential impact players.
January 8, 2009 at 2:07 pm
You know what guys…..I’ve been doing alot of whining and moaning about our Habs this year, and last night it finally hit me, my eyes were finally opened so to speak. Last season spoiled me…high flying, goal scoring, exciting hockey is what we got last year, and compared to that, it’s been hard to watch this years sytem. But I’ve been so caught up in our “style” of play that I hadn’d been noticing our “results”. Bottom line…we ARE winning games.
During last nights game it finally sunk in…it’s the first game this season that I watched the dumping, chiping and grinding and didn;t complain about it. Still harder hockey to watch than the other brand, but getting results.
I did say a couple of weeks ago in here that we are eking out games against the bottom teams, which is true. And after tonights Leaf game, the next 2 on our slot are Wash and Bos…and if this style we’ve adopted works against these guys…I’m sold. A thousand pardons will go out to Mr. Carbonneau.
We do still have to beat the top teams guys, and last night was a step up. We do need someone scoring some goals though…I’m sure you all agree. I’m even thinking that this brand should get us further into the playoffs. One question though…with the exception of Price who we want back ASAP, how much of a hurry should we be in to get our other 3 injuries back in the lineup. These guys were a line and we were losing with them in there. Just something to think about…is bumping the younger, hungry players who are helping with our effort, out of the lineup gonna change things ? We’ll see I guess. Keep up the winning and you will seel all of your frustrated fans on this style of hockey..last night was my semi-awakening..Sat and Tues night will be big games towards seeling me 100%. GO HABS GO !!!
PS Guys…has anyone heard anything on Montreal being the front runners for Kaberle from the leafs? I heard something last night and just wanted to know if any of you heard anything. A smooth puck moving D-man is apparently why we want him…any news on this and what do you all think.
January 8, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Last night during the intermission the question was asked to TSN’s panel, which included Bob MacKenzie, John Tortarella, and Ray Ferraro: Will the Canadiens make a move before the deadline? Ferraro responded by saying that the Canadiens powerplay was in desperate need of a quarterback which was available in Kaberle. Today TSN has a story in which Kaberle is quoted as saying (more or less) that he would be wiling to waive his no-trade clause if Burke asked him. And so the obvious thought is that he is a good fit for the Canadiens who are still looking to add a piece as they head towards the playoffs.
Th questions Montreal fans should be asking are: Do we need a player for the power play? and: Can Kaberle provide this for our team?
As our slumping PP has been well documented, I think the question is easily answered: Yes we need someone to fill that position, because clearly what we’ve been doing isn’t working. The second question is harder to answer. Kaberle has drawn the anger of fans who see him as an expensive, minus player who is reported to have blocked a trade that would have seen him go to Philadelphia last season in return for Jeff Carter. He currently has 25 points in 40 games which would put him on a similar pace for the 51 he got last season. I don’t think I need to tell you all that his 25 points would sadly make him our 5th leading scorer. And while Leafs fans are unhappy with his defensive play this year, I think their team defense is contributing to his troubles. He could certainly help our team moving towards the playoffs. The biggest question however is who do you give up in return? Its going to cost us to get him from Toronto. If I’m Burke I want O’Byrne, another young roster player and a draft pick in return. We’ll see what happens I guess. I certainly welcome a deal like this more than one sending all of our prospects to rent Kovalchuk.
January 8, 2009 at 5:00 pm
I like Kaberle-he’s in the Andrei Markov mold but not quite as good as Markov.
I would be willing to part with Higgins and Kostopolous(the toughness that Burke likes).
January 10, 2009 at 12:42 am
I see us giving up O’bryne and Higgins. The defenceman I would really like to get thought would be Boumester from Florida. Unfortunately he is a FA at the end of the year and we could loose him whereas Kaberle has two or three more years on his contract.
We have so many defenseman developing in the juniors and minors that we can afford to give up one especially a non roster player like Obyrne.