Habs vs Leafs [Round 1]
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The first of what should be another six classic Hockey game’s gets underway tonight in Toronto.
The Leafs have no pressure and no expectations to do anything but be a horrible team this year. The Canadiens the opposite, already under heavy surveillance.
The Habs stumbled a bit out of the gate in their first game, but still managed a point on the road against a competitive Sabres team.
The Leafs come in confident after defeating the Cup champ Red Wings in their home opener.
The Habs begin with 4 games in a 6 day span and Jaroslav Halak will get the call in nets tonight.
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- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
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October 11, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Leafs will come into tonights game a little to confident. Habs will have game faces on after a so so game last night. 5-2 final Habs win
October 11, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Higgins, Koivu and Tanguay were rusty. Higgins and Tanguay have something to prove tonight, as they were both outplayed by the likes of Latendresse and Lapierre. I don’t like how Tanguay quits on the play–hopefully Carbo breaks him of that habit (If Kovalev isn’t quitting, then frigging Tanguay better find some fight!)
I thought Price looked good, Komisarek looked good (that goal was a bad bounce, not his fault), and Markov and O’Byrne looked good, but a bit rusty. Gorges played well. If Brisebois finishes the year with the Habs, I’m trying out for the team next year and I’ll write comments here about how good groundworking is, how tough he plays, and how all you guys should stop complaining about his giveaways because they were all because of the bad ice, etc.!
The Kats, Kovalev, Lang and Plekanac looked very good! Fun to watch!
October 11, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Higgins did not even play last night, and if you thought latalentless played good then you didnt even watch the game….
October 11, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I can’t believe that the rds commentators were talking about how good Lats passing was last night during the game. He simply dumps the puck off the board and chases into the corners where his slow *** speed gets him beat everytime. Seriously why is he there? Nobody besides the coaches and SOME french commentators thinks he’s any good. Max P, should be playing on this team before Lats, no doubt about it. Are we all watching him play through some anti-Lantendresse goggles or does he really suck? I’m so confused.
October 11, 2008 at 6:32 pm
My apologies to Higgins–whoever played with Koivu and Tanguay sucked last night. I definitely do not think that Latendresse played a good game. He is my benchmark for “anything below this” and you’re in the minors.
Brisebois is worse than Latendresse. I also don’t know what the RDS people see in Latendresse.
October 11, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Latendresse just made a nifty pass on the 1st goal by Hamrlik
October 11, 2008 at 8:39 pm
He still sucks, lol, despite putting up some points.
October 11, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Tanguay just proved himself. Man, they looked good tonight!
October 12, 2008 at 12:07 pm
yes they did!
October 12, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Even Lats played good for two periods. It looks like Lang is fitting in nicely as well. Sergie had a great game and I think he earner is way on the two lines. I still would like to see him on the Line with his brother and Plex. He actually brings a little muscle and spirit to the line. That would free Kovalev up to play with Lang and and Leave Koivu’s line in tack for now. Halak played well against Toronto, I believe that he will be traded sometime this year for a number one draft pick hopefully top five.
October 12, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Lang is fitting in very well. Halak will definitely be traded IMO only if 2 things fall into place. Price shows that he is a bona fide #1and can handle the work load, and Denis needs to show he can be a capable back-up and can step in when needed and play well. If those things happen he will be dealt. I never thought of going for picks which is interesting, I had only thought about making a trade to fill a need (ie. lack of defense or specialty shutdown man)
October 12, 2008 at 10:16 pm
The Habs look fantastic last night. The movement on and off the puck looked fantastic, and the power play looked better than last year’s.
Lets hope we can keep that performance level up the entire season.
October 13, 2008 at 12:10 pm
I know we’re all excited about the win, but let’s put this into proper perspective, It was the leafs, who are a horrible team. The real test is tonight against a good team. If we beat the flyers, then we’re in for a good year. But first we must exorcise some demons, especially Price.