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Habs win a game!

  • Wow! A victory.

    Just barely. The Habs almost blew it again letting the Blue Jackets back into the game but held them off for the victory.

    Important, Michael Ryder scored. Saku Koivu scored. Will it get them out of their slumps?

    Jaro Halak got his first NHL career victory and you’d expect him to continue starting until he drops a game. He did look sharp and confident we’ll get a better idea how capable he is after few more games in the big league.

    Trade deadline is quickly approaching, all kinds of rumors floating around. Mostly completely false, some with merit.

    Do the Habs need a trade? Which position is in most need of help?

    Top 5 Canadiens on the Trade Block:

    1) Shledon Souray
    2) Michael Ryder
    3) Alex Perezhogin
    4) Craig Rivet
    5) Draft Picks

    If there is a deal, it will most likely involve these players.

    Agree/disagree?

132 Comments
  1. Souray should not be traded unless the Habs really get something else that they can build around for the soon future, trade-dump-give away-buy out or whatever but get rid of those 3 pylons-Kovalev, Bonk, Samsonov, that will free
    up quite a chunk of change that right now is just being pissed down a gopher hole ( hey I used to live on the prairies). I think the Habs have a solid bunch of draft picks to develop for the future, give them the ice time instead
    of the pylons mentioned above. The Canucks did this with the Sedin Sisters and they have turned into good players.

  2. This will in no way get the Habs out of their slump. They “just barely” beat a team like Columbus….3-2??? what is that. That tells me how bad it really is, as discussed by everybody in this blog.

    This will not end any of the players slumps. The only reason Ryder and Koivu scored is because it was Columbus!! The next strong team they play, they will lose and noone will score….this is just the fact. Halak was ok, I guess, but he didn’t steal the win or anything.

    Right now as it stands, Montreal is not in the playoffs…10th place at the moment…..3 points out of 6th. It is tight, for sure it is! But the cream rises to the top, so, therefore you may still see teams like the Islander, or yes, potentially even Florida, pass us, if we don’t start coming out to play serious hockey

  3. TRADE BOB & CARBO !!!!

  4. But doesn’t Souray want to play on the west coast to be closer to his daughter? If we keep him we may end up getting “Prongered”…

    I don’t agree the assessment of Radek Bonk, he’s a solid two-way player who contributes a lot of intangibles. I agree that if we can get anything for Kovalev and Samsonov, it could only be an improvement.

    Halak looked good last night, like to see more of the same.

  5. #5 Kev_in_Dorval says:
    February 19, 2007 at 12:51 pm

    Gainey should definitely make a trade. I think the playoffs are still feasible but the Habs shouldn’t be looking at rentals based on their tenuous sitaution. I’d like to see Sammy, Souray, Perezhoghin to Sharks for Bell, Vlasic, and Bernier. Vlasic and Bernier are both good now and got lots of upside while Bell’s having just as bad a season as Sammy and like him would probably benefit from a change of scenery. Eklund keeps speculating the Habs are looking for a goalie but Halak looked pretty good last night. Based on how much the team has slipped these past two months, if the Habs make the playoffs now, it’s a bonus and regardless they should be looking towards next season.

  6. This team may not even make the playoffs let alone win the cup, and don’t anyone bring up the Oilers last year cause that was almost a fluke(the stars were aligned for them and they’re a team full of players who’d take a bullet for their teammates every night, Montreal isn’t filled with players like that:see Micheal Ryder)

    If you read the Gazette today, Rivet basically knows he’s gone in the next week. Apparently San Jose would give up Josh Gorges for him(good young d-man but they won’t trade Matt Carle so don’t even ask for him).

    Souray could fetch an elite prospect if the bidding war goes crazy for him like it did for Forsberg. While San Jose may not be offering Steve Bernier right now and the Ducks say they won’t trade Bobby Ryan just wait till we get closer to next tuesday, the bidding may very well end up getting insane, especially if the Habs don’t do very well in the four games between now and then(Washington, Nashville, NYI, Toronto).

    Also Bonk may get something considering the season he’s had defencively and he’s scored 10 goals.

    Also I’ve believed Gainey’s never liked Ryder and is trying to deal him right now. So look for him to go regardless of were the Habs are in a week.

    And while no teams will take Sammy, Kovalev is the type of player teams look at and go ‘hey we can make this guy good again, all we have to do is put him with so-and-so’. Maybe Gainey can work a miracle and trade him.

  7. #7 smiler2729 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 12:52 pm

    Do not trade Sheldon Souray, sign him and re-build the team around him amongst others… If you trade Souray, then everybody here is going to whine that we don’t have an offensive defenceman/power play quarterback type. Throw all the money we can at him.

    I like Michael Ryder too, he’s still young and needs to improve but trading him and watching him “John LeClair” us would suck.

    Perezhogin, Markov and Bouillon don’t impress me.

    I’d wait til the off-season and try and do a blockbuster with Tampa Bay for Lecavalier and/or St.Louis, give them Price or Halak or Huet and prospects and 1st rounders for 4 years, I don’t care BUT I WANT AN ENTERTAINING COMPETITIVE HOCKEY TEAM.

  8. #8 PACTUM SERVA says:
    February 19, 2007 at 12:53 pm

    I cant see the habs giving souray 5 plus million.I think it would be in the best interest of the club to trade souray now.As much as i love this guys heart and leadership i just cant see him staying.My biggest fear is that gainey holds on to him in hopes of resigning him and in the end souray walks.I hope gainey comes to terms that the bomb from the point will not stay and makes the right move NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  9. Oh yeah, apparently the Isles called to see about the availability of Mike Komisarek:

    ‘Mathias Brunet of La Presse reports that the New York Islanders have been asking lots of questions regarding Habs blue-liner Mike Komisarek, apparently with the intent of trying to acquire the rugged defenceman. Knowing he risks losing four defenceman to free agency this summer, it’s highly unlikely Habs GM Bob Gainey would sacrifice a young, talented defenceman who has plenty of upside and leads the NHL in hits this season.’

    So basically Gainey told Garth Snow to go screw himself.

  10. #10 smiler2729 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:00 pm

    Komisarek to the Isles, HA, why cuz he’s from Long Island? The french media probably want Marc-Andre Bergeron, right? Idiots.

    The french media in Montreal are idiotic lunatics, they think they have every right to dictate how the team should be run. I say trade all of those franco-egos and their almighty ‘ideas’ to Paris, France, the city of ‘amour’ that actually smells like urine. Ever inhaled the air in that place??? P-U.

  11. #11 R habs 4 real says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:09 pm

    I’m not saying Gainey should take all of the blamefor where this team is now, but partial blame. He needs to be accountable for some mistakes. What mistakes? Overpaying players that aren’t worth it. I’m not condemning him for signing Samsonov, or Ninnimaa, but simply for OVERPAYING THEM! You don’t give Ninnimaa(broken down player), 2.75 mil/season, or Samsonov(underachiever), 4.75 mil, or for that matter Koivu,(who’s never scored more than 25 goals/season), more than 4 mil/season. It’s plain ridiculous. And what about Bonk? Isn’t he getting about 4 mil/sason, too? And what about Kovalev, who’s getting over 4 mil/season, and shows up only when he feels like it? C’mon Bob! do the math. there’s no money left to go and get really GOOD players. I realize you aren’t a mathemitician, but look at what you’ve paid for?
    Underachieving, overpaid prima donnas. Now it’s time to go and get hard working, north americans, who care about their team, and will give 100% effort every game. Gainey, please learn from your mistakes!

  12. Souray will be in a Sharks uniform before San Jose plays in Washington on Wednesday night. In return for Souray the Habs will get Mark Bell and Stever Bernier.

  13. #13 smiler2729 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:12 pm

    Gainey DID NOT PAY Niinimaa, he came via trade from Dallas, blame the Isles or the Stars for paying him that…

    PEOPLE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

  14. #14 Habs#1 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:14 pm

    That would be sweet. But Bob should force San Jose to take Sammy(Thornton might put pressure on the GM to get him cause they’re best friends) or Kovalev(who they might take cause they’re looking for a forward with size and playoff experience) and the Sharks have a lot of cap room.

  15. Good point,Ribero’s having a good year in DALLAS, TWO GOALS LAST NITE .HE’S THIER BEST PLAYER ,GREAT TRADE BOB !!!

  16. #16 R habs 4 real says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    I think it’s a mistake to hold onto Souray, because there’s no way he wants to stay here. He made it public knowledge that he wants to go to LA to be close to his daughter. And you know teams out west will give him as much, or more money , than the habs. So what exactly is his incentive to stay in Montreal?
    the pressuring media, high taxes, language situation, being far away from his daughter? There is absolutely NO WAY he’s going to stay, no matter how much money Gainey throws at him. So don’t waste time on him. I say, get what you can for him, or else we’ll get ZERO!
    Also get rid of Rivet, Ninnimaa on D. Forwards leaving, should be Ryder, Samsonov ,Kovalev, Bonk, Koivu, Murray, Downey .

  17. #17 smiler2729 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    Mark Bell? He’s a drunk! I know, first hand.

  18. #18 Habs#1 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:20 pm

    R habs 4 real, your points are very valid(execpt for Niinamaa as smiler pointed out, that was Mike Milbury and don’t worry he’s gone at the end of the year), the Sammy and Kovalev contracts were mistakes although I think Gainey thought he was getting something better.

    But you bet your ass he’s learned form this which is why you won’t see Datsyuk in a Habs uniform: no more Russians close to the age or over the age of thirty with long term deals(except Markov, expect him to get a deal about 4 years at 4/mil per year. The guy’s a +1, has 34 points(4 goals, 30 assists trust me Souay wouldn’t have as many PP goals if Markov wasn’t setting him up), and he’s the team leader in average ice time).

    I can already smell the Steve Bernier or Bobby Ryan Habs jersey.

  19. #19 smiler2729 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    I can’t believe any Hab fan worth his weight in gold, would actually want Mike Ribeiro on this team! He’s a soccerwannabe faker weasel who shamed us with his ridiculous antics and his me-first attitude. Good riddance, just shows how weak the Dallas forwards are this season.

    What next? Get Theodore back???

  20. #20 Habs#1 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    But Koivu isn’t going anywhere so don’t hold your breath for that(Gainey’s not trading him and he has a no trade clause I believe.)

  21. #21 Habs#1 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:22 pm

    Ribeiro’s a slime ball pansy. I never want him near the Habs again.

  22. #22 chernevog says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:22 pm

    I don’t know why people are advocating the trade of Alexander Perezhogin or Radek Bonk. They might not be your favorite players but they 2nd and 3rd respectively in the teams plus/minus rankings with a plus 8 and a plus 13…. On a team where more than half of the players are deeply in the minus you can’t lose the ones that actually put more in the net than what they let in… even if they don’t put that many in the net…

  23. RIBERO’S turn his career around and we have POWER FORWARD NIINIMAA INSTEAD ,Habs #1,you are one blind Hab’s fan. 3 blind mice= Gainey, Carbo and Habs#1.

  24. #24 smiler2729 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:34 pm

    Plus/Minus is the most overrated statistic in the NHL, I could float on Wayne Gretzky’s line in the ’80s and be a PLUS-50!

    Perezhogin or Milroy? Gimme Milroy. So trade Perezhogin and his swinging stick.

  25. #25 R habs 4 real says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:35 pm

    Perehzogin is a lousy player. He can’t score, and he’s been a healthy scratch alot, because he takes so many BAD PENALTIES. So why would we want to waste money on a player who spends all his time in the penalty box?

  26. #26 superfan says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:38 pm

    never trade special agent radek bonk…

  27. #27 smiler2729 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:39 pm

    Xhabfan, you know squat about how a hockey team works, just keeping watching buddy and learn.

    Ribeiro’s a weasel and Niinimaa’s a non-factor in this whole thing, so Janne gets to ride of being a Montreal Canadien for one season while we rid of ourselves of an immature disruption… good riddance.

    Everybody should quit bitching about Janne Niinimaa, he’s ‘collateral damage’ in the jettison of “Ribs”. What does Janne hurt riding the press box or bench? Nothing.

  28. smiler2729 weren’t you the guy that said the Habs were so great a couple of months ago,yeah you know hockey buddy ,LOL, HA HA HA HA ………..

  29. #29 chitownhabsfan says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:49 pm

    Won a game! What went wrong?

  30. #30 smiler2729 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 1:49 pm

    They were great before Christmas you yo-yo, 5 pts behind league leading Buffalo!!! Duh.

  31. #31 Kev_in_Dorval says:
    February 19, 2007 at 2:01 pm

    So Mark Bell’s a drunk, huh? Cool, he’d love this city! Honestly, I think he could be a good player for the Habs, he’s 2 years younger than Sammy, 6’4″ and can play center or left wing. He needs a new start without the pressure that comes with being brought in to complement both last year’s Art Ross and Richard winners. If the deal with San Jose goes down, Bernier and Vlasic have to be included as well. Wilson thinks that’s too steep, well how many other 20 goal defencemen are available? Gainey could always give Brian Burke a call …

  32. #32 smiler2729 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 2:02 pm

    I like Robot#1, isn’t he french?

  33. #33 smiler2729 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 2:04 pm

    Mark Bell plays summer hockey in the west end of Toronto with a few guys from our tourney team. The guy skates an hour or so and heads for the bar for about 12 beers. He never works out, he just doesn’t care. You want that on this team?

  34. #34 smiler2729 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 2:05 pm

    Mark Bell is San Jose’s Sergei Samsonov.

  35. #35 chitownhabsfan says:
    February 19, 2007 at 2:08 pm

    Every NHL GM should know that Mark Bell is untradeable due to the fact that he is awaiting trail on DUI and could get a year or more in jail for a pre-season accident.

    Now, would you gamble and trade for him??

  36. #36 Kev_in_Dorval says:
    February 19, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    I think if it basically comes down to Bell for Samsonov, why not?

  37. #37 Kev_in_Dorval says:
    February 19, 2007 at 2:15 pm

    OK, didn’t know that his legal troubles made him untradeable, but if Souray goes to the Sharks, I really hope Gainey holds out for both Bernier and Vlasic.

  38. #38 Kev_in_Dorval says:
    February 19, 2007 at 2:19 pm

    If it is the Ducks who land #44, how about Penner and O’Brien? Although Vlasic is a much better all-round defenceman than O’Brien, and younger.

  39. #39 R habs 4 real says:
    February 19, 2007 at 2:33 pm

    teams know habs are desperate. they won’t give much in return, no matter who we trade. the reason being, look what Philly got for Forsberg?
    Whatever we get, be it picks or potentials, it’s better than nothing, which we will end up, unless Gainey starts thinking with his head, and not his heart!

  40. #40 smiler2729 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 2:47 pm

    FROM MITCH MELNICK’S BLOG – ALL YOU WHINING FAIRWEATHER HAB “FANS” SHOULD READ AND HEED THIS:

    From: Bill Maslen
    To: Mitch Melnick TEAM990
    Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 3:48 PM
    Subject: Montreal Maroons or Morons ?

    People wonder why quality free agents don’t come to Montreal? Look no further than the dump Samsonov campaign after half a season, or the “is Kovalev really hurt” propaganda running amok in the public and the local media. Why have the captain and Les Boyz “run out of gas”? Why are the goalies looking more like Theodore than “Close the door”? Has the coach the room? What a joke folks, you need to relax!

    We’re begging Gainey to trade our biggest offensive weapon on defence
    since Larry Robinson instead of trying to find out if he will stay here at a reasonable cost. The minute you become a star in Montreal, you’re never
    good enough any more. People forget that Guy Lafleur was booed towards the end
    of his run here, and we all know what happened with St. Patrick.

    At this rate, we will be holding a 40th anniversary of our last Stanley
    Cup in a few years if the fans and media around here don’t get a grip on
    reality and develop the patience and understanding necessary to develop a real
    positive atmosphere to draw players here instead of repel them.

    Please give these guys a break and be realistic with your expectations. Hounding and chasing the stars away is not solving anything, and frankly,
    I can’t wait until Carbo has had enough of the dumb questions and flips the bird at us again.

    CHEERS TO THAT!

  41. #41 Kev_in_Dorval says:
    February 19, 2007 at 2:47 pm

    How possible do you think this rumor of Kovalev being shopped is? Personally, I think he’s a phenomenal talent, great wrist shot, best stickhandler on the team (possibly the league) but his work ethic is a complete joke. He is known to bring his best for the post-season so he still has value. But these older Russian players (Kovy, Fedorov, Mogilny, Malakhov) all have that same mentality from living in Soviet Russia – Play your ass off to get to the NHL until you get that first huge contract and coast for the rest of your career. It’s refreshing to see the new generation (Ovechkin, Malkin, Kovalchuk) actually playing hard because they love the game not the $$$. Side note, Philly did pretty good actually in the Forsberg deal, no reason to think that Souray (obviously best defenceman available) wouldn’t fetch at least 2 top prospects.

  42. #42 Kev_in_Dorval says:
    February 19, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    Smiler, I love what Souray brings game in, game out in spite of his defensive shortcomings, while Saku has curled up into a corner recently, Souray has picked up that ball in the leadership department. However, what are the chances of Souray re-signing here? And if the Habs slide into the playoffs, with or without Souray, they’re not going to challenge for the Cup this year so why not at least kick a few tires to see what these Cali based teams would be willing to part with?

  43. #43 smiler2729 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 3:05 pm

    I’m so tired of hearing about Souray and his daughter, is playing in Los Angeles/Anaheim or San Jose really going to change the fact he plays on the road alot…

    Besides, MONEY TALKS. He’ll $tay.

  44. #44 MARIO NARDELLI says:
    February 19, 2007 at 3:22 pm

    HAB FANS
    IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL YOURSELVES.
    WITH ALL THIS TALK YOU ARE GIVING THE TEAM THE EVIL EYE
    AND SCARING ALL THE GHOSTS FROM THE PAST.
    BEILIEVE AND GIVE THEM A CHANCE A COUPLE OF TRADES A STRING OF WINS AND
    WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK UP THE STANDINGS.
    BELIEVE…………………………

  45. #45 smiler2729 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 3:28 pm

    So do the Habs need a trade as this blog is asking? No.

    I maintain, unless it is one of those core shake-ups that will vastly improve the team for years to come (a blockbuster for Lecavalier), that the Habs can put this 6 week malaise behind them and start playing again like they did in November and December.

    I like the idea of Hamilton Bulldog callups (Lapierre, Milroy and Halak have added a little something to this team) rather than trading away our so-called “unwanteds”.

    The Habs are neither sellers nor buyers (unless some other GM is giving away superstars)… the Canadiens simply need to gel and quit listening to all the spoiled nay-sayers.

    Let’s find the heart and grit to make another run towards the post-season like we had coming out of the gate… then who will all you whiners complain about?

    In Bob We Trust.

  46. #46 riser8 says:
    February 19, 2007 at 3:30 pm

    I believe Souray will not be dealt and that Gainey will try his best to resign him this July. If Gainey does make a deal in the next week you can be certain it will be a deal that will benefit the Habs in the long term and not for a short term gain. This team is still being built for the future and are at least one or two years away from being a legitimate contender.

  47. Again, I ask Habs Fans one simple question which if answered doesn’t make you any less of a Habs Fan. Is this the worst Habs team ever? yes…. no….If you wish please give an honest view point using your senses and not your heart.Come on,step up to the plate as a collective of fans and see were this takes us.

  48. #48 R habs 4 real says:
    February 19, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    The team we have now, will never win a cup, not this year, or next year, or even 2 years from now. the reason: lack of talent. You can’t compare talent of Ottawa or Pittsburgh to us. It’s like night and day. Stop dreaming guys!
    unless there are some major trades, this team is going nowhere.
    And stop blaming the fans! We aren’t responsible for this team’s collapse. we don’t lace up the skates, and shoot the puck, or stop the puck.
    If the defence is porous, are we responsible for that? If there is no heart or desire, are we responsible for that.
    We are die hard fans with a passion for our team! Not alot of fans in other cities care about their team as much as we do. Their team doesn’t even exist in their eyes. Maybe we care too much, but hockey is a religion in Canada.
    We also don’t make the tax laws, or language laws, or responsible for the pressuring media. Stop blaming the fans for a crappy hockey team.
    These are the same fans who watched as the team won 4 cups in a row in the 70′s. As I can recall, we had language problems then, the taxes were high then, and the media was even more demanding then.
    the onus is on this underachieving team, not those wear their heart on their sleeve!

  49. I agree with R Habs 4 real that the team we have right now will not win us a cup. We need some GOOD, GRITTY hockey players like Mike Fisher and Gary Roberts to help us win. I know Roberts is 40 years old but he can still play. I would love to have someone like Mike Fisher on my team. We should definitely be buyers at the deadline and build from there. We should try and keep Souray because he is a player that shows HEART and wants to WIN. We should try and RESIGN HIM, NO MATTER WHAT THE COST!!!

    Ziman

  50. #50 HAB-DAB-A-DO says:
    February 19, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    I think the habs should trade with the wild Koivu for Koivu, Could even save money by not having to do a new jersey.

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