Halak is Back

Jaroslav Halak has been called back up to the Canadiens.

Why?

Is Cristobal Huet really hurt?

Is Carey Price really sick?

Or is Jaroslav Halak being put on display for a trade?

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#1 Stuart-SB77 says:
December 3, 2007 at 4:03 pm

If he plays good for us for a while I know everyone one else think he’s going soon,but I don’t think that’s the case. I know that halak is taking like 600 thousand while huet is taking like 2.7 mill. Gainey might trade Huet away instead of Halak. If Halak plays great Price I feel no matter what will be our starter soon. but Halak wouldn’t be a bad back-up.Price will be roy and Halak will be someone like Emery. We have great goaltending. trading Huet would give us 2 more million!!! I like Huet though and I still understand that Halak is more likely to go,I’m just saying that theres still a chance a huge trade could be in the mix.

#2 Stuart-SB77 says:
December 3, 2007 at 4:04 pm

mix-(making)

#3 groundworking says:
December 3, 2007 at 6:13 pm

My guess is that it’s the injuries. He hasn’t been that impressive this year in the AHL, so I doubt that now is the time that they’ll market him for a trade.

This is the point in the year when…oh never mind…we all know what happens at this point in the year.

#4 Jaker1 says:
December 3, 2007 at 6:32 pm

No matter who plays in goal against Detroit,the players in front of them better show up with an effort or you may kill one of these kids confidence.I get the feeling some of the players are starting their illnesses that they blamed for their poor second half last year. I hope they show more character this year and not roll over and cry illness for the second half. I agree with most people about calling up some Bulldogs and sit guys like Ryder and Brisboise. I think if you can move Ryder it would be best for both parties and I think Carboneau should go to Brisbois and say good career but it is time to call it quits. Would it not be better to take in O’Byrne in and teach him the game like Jacque Lemaire is doing with James Shepphard rather than watching guys like Parise blowing by Brisbois. Just food for thought.

#5 Xtrahabsfan says:
December 3, 2007 at 6:45 pm

Say goodby to Huet and lets thank him for hs efforts…..now on to the preset Halak and Price and here’s to a great future for Les Canadiens!The King is Dead;Long Live the King!!!!!

#6 habs2010 says:
December 3, 2007 at 9:28 pm

Does anyone think Gainey dropped the ball when he let Bonk go, and signed Smolinski instead? Remember, Bonk has scored 10 goals, and Smolinski has 2.
Gainey doesn’t want to look bad, so he’ll play Smolinski every game, no matter how bad he plays.

#7 BarrieHabFan says:
December 3, 2007 at 10:19 pm

First, I think Stuart is right. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Huet is traded and Halak becomes the back-up. It’s not the ideal situation but Huet is one of the few assets that Montreal has that can actually get something worthwhile in return. Right now I’d gladly see Ryder paired with Huet in a deal that brought back a legitimate scorer or a number one center. Huet’s a great goalie, but this team will never be a contender without more dependable scoring.
Second, stop crying about Brisebois. Parise blew by him because of a bad pass from Hamrlik. It happens. Brisebois does make a lot of mistakes because of his playing style (long passes). But the same thing that makes him look so bad when things aren’t going good make the team look great when things go well. This is his last year so you won’t have to endure much more. But I personally think he has been dumped on in Montreal for a long time undeservedly. He is a good puck movng defenceman.
Lastly, Bonk is having a great year but you’re kidding yourself if you think that would have happened in Montreal for him. Bonk was more valuable in Montreal for preventing goals than getting them. But I do agree that he should have stayed for how well he played defensively.

#8 Habs4Ever says:
December 3, 2007 at 11:42 pm

Thank goodness Bonk is gone, that piece of **** was just getting his paycheck mailed to him, now that he is out he scores some goals, good riddance to that ****.
Smolinski is stronger on the defense than Souray was, but doesn’t have the goal scoring ability that Souray had.

I think we are going to see a trade fairly soon, I hope it is worthwhile and not for some some washed-up has beens.

#9 PACTUM SERVA says:
December 4, 2007 at 12:25 am

Maybe its not so much bonk but the system carbo plays here.Makes you think doesnt it?

#10 habs2010 says:
December 4, 2007 at 1:06 am

Maybe it’s the fact that when players leave the pressure cooker here, and go to other teams, they thrive. Montreal is a tough place to play, and now I understand why players don’t want to come here. Truthfully, if I were an NHL player, I would never come here, because of the tremendous pressure, the media, language issues, and constantly being put under a microscope.
But nevertheless, I guess till my dying days I’ll be a habs fan. But man, I’m really getting tired of the losing. Maybe the fans should try and court hockey players to get them to come here. What can we do?

#11 Xtrahabsfan says:
December 4, 2007 at 1:10 am

There’s so many things you point at and I think someone said it right when they pointed too the fact when the NEW KOVAlEV has to try and wake up his team mates by throwing pounding body checks “he’ll get injured doing that soon” to try and wake up his team-mates.Too many quitters on that team and too few goal scorers.At the end of two periods there’s nothing left of this undersized team at the close to half way point of the season,the tank is empty.period!!!WE NEED NEW BLOOD WITH SIZE AND TENASITY!!!!!DAM-IT!!!

#12 LeBeau says:
December 4, 2007 at 8:07 am

Talk about deviating from the subject! I personally think Halak is being exposed right now for the possibility of a trade. I’m guessing Gainey’s looking for a 1 for 1 deal to trade a young goalie for a young forward. Youth on this team looks good, and I’m guessing Gainey wants to build on that.

I’m guessing that Gainey’s going to hold onto Huet until the trade deadline when a team just on the outside of the play-off picture decides they need a solid goaltender to help their push. I still think he and Ryder will be trade deadline deals this year.

#13 johnnyhab says:
December 4, 2007 at 9:07 am

Guys A trade may be an answer here but still it needs to have some sort of impact to shake up the team to wake them up …I’m a Ryder fan being for the east coast. But when somebody does not seem to fit anymore and could possibly get something in return when you add a goalie to the fold there may be an impact player we need also a prospect from the minors. Is there a team out there to make this deal to give up such a player and who would fit into the mix. Any suggestions?

#14 nilan says:
December 4, 2007 at 12:26 pm

Sure, but who’s available right now? Halak-Ryder for…who?

#15 BarrieHabFan says:
December 4, 2007 at 12:45 pm

Considering both Ryder and Huet are unrestricted free agents at the end of the year it limits the return. Most likely they would go for another UFA that Montreal beleives they would be able to resign before they become unrestricted in the summer. Some of the better names out there include Marian Hossa, Huselius, Langkow, Hainsey, Ribeiro, Nagy, Dumont, Legwand and Naslund. Plaus it all depends where the other teams sit in the standings when Montreal is ready to trade. My picks would be Langkow, Legwand or Ribeiro. Yes, ribeiro. That extra offensive creativity would be very welcome right now. If Hossa has a few years left he may be a possibility.

#16 MrBigTime says:
December 4, 2007 at 1:05 pm

Never again for Ribeiro… too small, not what we need at all… he couldn’t get it done, and had to leave Montreal to get off the coke..

#17 Jaker1 says:
December 4, 2007 at 3:03 pm

Problem child Reibero back and maybe Hainsey who we lost on waivers and oh yeah hang on to that Bobby Orr(like) Brisbois. This can make for a competative Junior team.

#18 BarrieHabFan says:
December 4, 2007 at 3:55 pm

Ok, Ribeiro’s not ideal. But check your stats, I’d take Hainsey back in a second!

#19 habsfan77 says:
December 5, 2007 at 7:10 pm

Montreal should trade price and have Huet and Halak as their goalies

#20 kovalev rules says:
December 14, 2007 at 3:37 pm

my guess is because huet is not playing very well right now and price needs a backup

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Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
Avatar37 : Goalie - Sure, the only player I'd say who is untradeable (meaning I wouldn't trade no matter what) is Carey Price. You build a winning team from the net out, and I don't think there's a better goalie for his age in the NHL than Price, so I wouldn't trade him. Otherwise, every player would be open for offers, but for PK Subban, it would take (for me) an already established star, like Carter or Crosby or Ovechkin. As much as I like Ovechkin, I'm not sure he could handle all the media pre
goalie : I'm not suggesting at all that we judst dump or get rid of PK. I do however believe that he is a very valued commodity in the NHL adn that the Habs will receive offers for his services. If someone ffers us young, strong, puck handling forwards who can score, I think the Habs have to look at that possible trade.
Avatar37 : Agreed. It would be a big mistake to trade PK just to move up 2 spots in the draft. PK, Emelin, and Gorges are the bright future of our defense.
Senet1 : I am with you Avatar, Subban stays, it is not often that you get a stud defenceman who can play 25+ minutes. The mistakes he makes are for the most part not that serious and people forget he is only 23 and been in the league 2 years. He has come a long way in those two years. He has offense, defence and he hits. You cannot bet much better than that. Two more years experience and he has a shot at the Norris. If Markov does anything I hope he teaches PK how to work the PP.
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Avatar37 : go.
Avatar37 : round exit. Heck, even the year they won the cup we almost took them out in round 1. I believe in the corps of this team, I really think we just need a few tweaks. Adding Larry Robinson to run the defense would be a BIG help, keep Cunneyworth as offensive coach, and get a head coach who can get these guys back on the right path. We need to establish an identity again, a team that won't let itself be pushed around like it was under Martin. A few scrappers on this team and we'll be good to
Avatar37 : Yeah, the only way I'd trade PK is if we were getting an established star in return, like Carter or Crosby. I don't think we're miles away from competing deep into the playoffs, the NHL has become so competitive because of the salary cap that really there aren't huge differences between the teams. Add into the equation the stupid scoring system (some games worth 2 points, some 3) that the standings don't truly reflect where teams should really be. Look at Boston, cup winners to first rou
Senet1 : It would have to be something pretty special before I would trade PK. To me he is the #1 building block of our defence. I would trade any other defenceman we have before I would trade PK.
Senet1 : An improvement in our offense and strengthening our defence. Personally, I do not think we are that far off, five players at best could get us there. One thing that has always been true about the playoffs, Defence wins and you need a strong 3rd and 4th line.
goalie : I'm more optimistic now about the Habs than I have been for the past three dreadfully long seasons!
goalie : 2: I think GM Bergevin will make somewhat of a 'blockbuster't rade either before or on the day of the draft adn I believe PK Subban will be in that package. WE have t rememebr we have to give away some talent to get back other talent. No one wants players like Moen to move up in the draft etc.
goalie : Some thoughts:The more I see the playoffs it becomes even more obvious that we're miles away from being able to 'compete' dep into the playoffs
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Senet1 : Young Subban might also be an option if the Russian goalie is not available. However, to me I would wait another year and attempt to use my draft 2nd round draft picks to improve out forward situation.
Senet1 : Although Rinne contact is another example of long term at the wrong time. He is 29 years old. A case could be made with Price that double his money now with bonuses if we win the cup, I think that is still allowed in contracts?
Senet1 : Problem is he is going to want Pekka Rinne money and term. That is closer to 7M. On the other hand, the contract could have step up clauses in it over the 7 years.
Avatar37 : With Price, I wouldn't blink twice about offering him a 7 year contract now, especially if he'd be willing to give up dollar value for length. 7 years at $5.5 million a year would be just fine in my book.
Avatar37 : I think the goaltending void in our current system would push me to draft Vasilevski with our second pick, if he was available. He's young and has lots of potential, but is at least 5-6 years away from starting to be ready to play on an NHL roster.
Senet1 : Long tern contracts are a risk, but if you have a super star not as much. Luongo's contract was long term but signed too late in his career.
Avatar37 : Senet - Yes, you were clear in your post, my question was directed at goalie. I'm with you in that I'd be willing to sign him to a 7 year contract. I'd be nervous about anything longer, because every single long term goalie contract I can think of turned out to be a disaster for the team signing it.
Senet1 : I think that Budaj is a better goalie than many give him credit for, is he a Price no but with a tight defence he could be a good goalie. Many teams have average goalies but have great defence and still win. Look at Detroit, for years they have had average goaltending, but won cups. Goalies can get on a roll in the playoffs, look at Huet as an example, he was not really a good goalie but played great in the playoffs, next year he was a wash. Defence makes the goalie a winner, just ask Price.
Senet1 : Having a young equivalent goalie in the system right now is not important, three years from now it will be, so we have three years to make that kind of move in the draft. I think we have more pressing needs aat the moment.
Senet1 : Personally, I do not see this as a negative because of Price's age, you wait to draft a goalie of a Patrick Roy or Brodeur some teams wait a life time. To me we have on so why would we want to not play that out for as long as we can. Bottom line is this, regardless, right now you have a stud goalie, you are either going to pay him the money he deserves for not sign him and lose him. There is no middle of the road here.
goalie : Avatar made a great point. We don't have an NHL or up adn coming NHL goalies in our system. Another great move by Gauthier. Price is sitting very pretty.
goalie : WEll Price has us by the nads. I guess I'd have to go as far as a 7 year contract due to his play adn his age.
Senet1 : Luongo is now 33, he has been a good goaltender for a number of years. I would sign Price for 7 years and at age 31 then we deal with UFA at that time. Hopefully, we could provide him with another 5 years at that time. That is my opinion anyway, I would never risk losing him as a UFA at this point in his career to me that would be a very poor management decision. Even a 10 year contract would put him only at 34 years old. If you are going to sign him to long term now is the time.
Senet1 : If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him a contract that is worthy of his abilities and his potential. It can have escalation clauses or reducing clauses like Kovalchuk's contract.
Senet1 : Avatar, I thought I was clear Yes I would sign him long term. My previous post said. The problem is if you have a out in the contract after 5 years then the player also has an out after 5 years. So no self respected lawyer would accept a contract that did not have equal escape clauses. So no I would not sign only for 5 years, if Price was 28 years old yes but not a 24. Seven years still only makes him 31 when the contract is over. If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him
Avatar37 : Cammalleri trade. Given the fact that we have no NHL starting quality goaltenders in the system currently, aren't we held hostage to having to sign Price?
Avatar37 : There are many bad goalie contracts, just look at Huet. However, your post didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with Price. He's an RFA now, but for argument sake, if he were a UFA, what would you do? If he wanted a 7+ year contract, you know some other team would give him one. Would you risk losing him for nothing because you didn't want to sign a contract over 5 years? And if we lose Price, our goalies are Budaj and Robert Mayer, as we sent Karri Ramo to the Flames in the Cam
goalie : .. a 5 years contract again based upon the experience he has had AND he likes Bobby Lou!
goalie : Ditto for Philly, Ther goaltender 'situations' have both become the number 1 story line for both teams, and in Vancouver one could see the exaspiration on Gillis' adn to some extent Vigneault's faces when continously being bombarded by the loooong term contract that the Canucks are stuct with. (Gillis even said last February or so, thank goodness it looks like more than few other teams will be looking for a starting goaltender for 2012-13. He said he would never again do more than a 5 year c
goalie : I've spent the past four winters in BC thus I am very aware of the Canucks situations. I'd first say I give Gillis adn Vigneault 100% credit for being VERY supportive of Roberto L. even when Corey Schenider has vastly out played him. (I too like Bobby Lou but facts are facts).