Huet = #1
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Cristobal Huet’s got something to prove.
Maybe the All-Star snub got under his skin. Maybe not.
Maybe having the NHL’s biggest secret is a good thing.
Huet backstopped the Habs to a “shutout shootout” win over the Panthers, his sixth consecutive win.
6 straight wins, Leagues best Save % and best Goals Against Average.
No more 1a, 1b. Huet is 1 period.
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- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - Sure, the only player I'd say who is untradeable (meaning I wouldn't trade no matter what) is Carey Price. You build a winning team from the net out, and I don't think there's a better goalie for his age in the NHL than Price, so I wouldn't trade him. Otherwise, every player would be open for offers, but for PK Subban, it would take (for me) an already established star, like Carter or Crosby or Ovechkin. As much as I like Ovechkin, I'm not sure he could handle all the media pre
- goalie : I'm not suggesting at all that we judst dump or get rid of PK. I do however believe that he is a very valued commodity in the NHL adn that the Habs will receive offers for his services. If someone ffers us young, strong, puck handling forwards who can score, I think the Habs have to look at that possible trade.
- Avatar37 : Agreed. It would be a big mistake to trade PK just to move up 2 spots in the draft. PK, Emelin, and Gorges are the bright future of our defense.
- Senet1 : I am with you Avatar, Subban stays, it is not often that you get a stud defenceman who can play 25+ minutes. The mistakes he makes are for the most part not that serious and people forget he is only 23 and been in the league 2 years. He has come a long way in those two years. He has offense, defence and he hits. You cannot bet much better than that. Two more years experience and he has a shot at the Norris. If Markov does anything I hope he teaches PK how to work the PP.
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- Avatar37 : go.
- Avatar37 : round exit. Heck, even the year they won the cup we almost took them out in round 1. I believe in the corps of this team, I really think we just need a few tweaks. Adding Larry Robinson to run the defense would be a BIG help, keep Cunneyworth as offensive coach, and get a head coach who can get these guys back on the right path. We need to establish an identity again, a team that won't let itself be pushed around like it was under Martin. A few scrappers on this team and we'll be good to
- Avatar37 : Yeah, the only way I'd trade PK is if we were getting an established star in return, like Carter or Crosby. I don't think we're miles away from competing deep into the playoffs, the NHL has become so competitive because of the salary cap that really there aren't huge differences between the teams. Add into the equation the stupid scoring system (some games worth 2 points, some 3) that the standings don't truly reflect where teams should really be. Look at Boston, cup winners to first rou
- Senet1 : It would have to be something pretty special before I would trade PK. To me he is the #1 building block of our defence. I would trade any other defenceman we have before I would trade PK.
- Senet1 : An improvement in our offense and strengthening our defence. Personally, I do not think we are that far off, five players at best could get us there. One thing that has always been true about the playoffs, Defence wins and you need a strong 3rd and 4th line.
- goalie : I'm more optimistic now about the Habs than I have been for the past three dreadfully long seasons!
- goalie : 2: I think GM Bergevin will make somewhat of a 'blockbuster't rade either before or on the day of the draft adn I believe PK Subban will be in that package. WE have t rememebr we have to give away some talent to get back other talent. No one wants players like Moen to move up in the draft etc.
- goalie : Some thoughts:The more I see the playoffs it becomes even more obvious that we're miles away from being able to 'compete' dep into the playoffs
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- Senet1 : Young Subban might also be an option if the Russian goalie is not available. However, to me I would wait another year and attempt to use my draft 2nd round draft picks to improve out forward situation.
- Senet1 : Although Rinne contact is another example of long term at the wrong time. He is 29 years old. A case could be made with Price that double his money now with bonuses if we win the cup, I think that is still allowed in contracts?
- Senet1 : Problem is he is going to want Pekka Rinne money and term. That is closer to 7M. On the other hand, the contract could have step up clauses in it over the 7 years.
- Avatar37 : With Price, I wouldn't blink twice about offering him a 7 year contract now, especially if he'd be willing to give up dollar value for length. 7 years at $5.5 million a year would be just fine in my book.
- Avatar37 : I think the goaltending void in our current system would push me to draft Vasilevski with our second pick, if he was available. He's young and has lots of potential, but is at least 5-6 years away from starting to be ready to play on an NHL roster.
- Senet1 : Long tern contracts are a risk, but if you have a super star not as much. Luongo's contract was long term but signed too late in his career.
- Avatar37 : Senet - Yes, you were clear in your post, my question was directed at goalie. I'm with you in that I'd be willing to sign him to a 7 year contract. I'd be nervous about anything longer, because every single long term goalie contract I can think of turned out to be a disaster for the team signing it.
- Senet1 : I think that Budaj is a better goalie than many give him credit for, is he a Price no but with a tight defence he could be a good goalie. Many teams have average goalies but have great defence and still win. Look at Detroit, for years they have had average goaltending, but won cups. Goalies can get on a roll in the playoffs, look at Huet as an example, he was not really a good goalie but played great in the playoffs, next year he was a wash. Defence makes the goalie a winner, just ask Price.
- Senet1 : Having a young equivalent goalie in the system right now is not important, three years from now it will be, so we have three years to make that kind of move in the draft. I think we have more pressing needs aat the moment.
- Senet1 : Personally, I do not see this as a negative because of Price's age, you wait to draft a goalie of a Patrick Roy or Brodeur some teams wait a life time. To me we have on so why would we want to not play that out for as long as we can. Bottom line is this, regardless, right now you have a stud goalie, you are either going to pay him the money he deserves for not sign him and lose him. There is no middle of the road here.
- goalie : Avatar made a great point. We don't have an NHL or up adn coming NHL goalies in our system. Another great move by Gauthier. Price is sitting very pretty.
- goalie : WEll Price has us by the nads. I guess I'd have to go as far as a 7 year contract due to his play adn his age.
- Senet1 : Luongo is now 33, he has been a good goaltender for a number of years. I would sign Price for 7 years and at age 31 then we deal with UFA at that time. Hopefully, we could provide him with another 5 years at that time. That is my opinion anyway, I would never risk losing him as a UFA at this point in his career to me that would be a very poor management decision. Even a 10 year contract would put him only at 34 years old. If you are going to sign him to long term now is the time.
- Senet1 : If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him a contract that is worthy of his abilities and his potential. It can have escalation clauses or reducing clauses like Kovalchuk's contract.
- Senet1 : Avatar, I thought I was clear Yes I would sign him long term. My previous post said. The problem is if you have a out in the contract after 5 years then the player also has an out after 5 years. So no self respected lawyer would accept a contract that did not have equal escape clauses. So no I would not sign only for 5 years, if Price was 28 years old yes but not a 24. Seven years still only makes him 31 when the contract is over. If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him
- Avatar37 : Cammalleri trade. Given the fact that we have no NHL starting quality goaltenders in the system currently, aren't we held hostage to having to sign Price?
- Avatar37 : There are many bad goalie contracts, just look at Huet. However, your post didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with Price. He's an RFA now, but for argument sake, if he were a UFA, what would you do? If he wanted a 7+ year contract, you know some other team would give him one. Would you risk losing him for nothing because you didn't want to sign a contract over 5 years? And if we lose Price, our goalies are Budaj and Robert Mayer, as we sent Karri Ramo to the Flames in the Cam
- goalie : .. a 5 years contract again based upon the experience he has had AND he likes Bobby Lou!
- goalie : Ditto for Philly, Ther goaltender 'situations' have both become the number 1 story line for both teams, and in Vancouver one could see the exaspiration on Gillis' adn to some extent Vigneault's faces when continously being bombarded by the loooong term contract that the Canucks are stuct with. (Gillis even said last February or so, thank goodness it looks like more than few other teams will be looking for a starting goaltender for 2012-13. He said he would never again do more than a 5 year c
- goalie : I've spent the past four winters in BC thus I am very aware of the Canucks situations. I'd first say I give Gillis adn Vigneault 100% credit for being VERY supportive of Roberto L. even when Corey Schenider has vastly out played him. (I too like Bobby Lou but facts are facts).
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November 29, 2006 at 9:23 am
You couldn’t be more correct. I’m not sure what they’ll do with Aebischer, as he’s an excellent backup goalie and they definitely rather have Price playing somewhere rather than sitting on the Bench in the NHL. I’d make a few points:
1) First, the TSN crowd predicted that Huet would stick this year. Darren Dredger said that “he goes down faster than a human Zamboni” (whatever that means), and that “the book was out on Huet”. Clearly, Dredger knows not of what he speaks. They also predicted that neither the Canadiens nor the Leafs would make the playoffs, and that Calgary would finish atop the West. I disagreed with their predictions then, and I obviously disagree with them now.
2) Huet is the best goalie that Montreal has seen since Patrick Roy. Roy succeeded over a very long time, and Huet is just really getting started, but Huet is not “streaky” like Theodore. By that I mean that Huet has not depended on spectacular saves, which as Patrick Roy once pointed out, is something a goalie does after he’s made a positional mistake. The thing about Huet and Roy is that both of them seem to never need to make the great save. The puck just seems to hit them. And that’s what happens to good goalies–they just get hit by the puck.
3) Hasek was also a late bloomer, playing backup with crappy save percentages until he was 30 years old or so. Huet has always posted great save percentages, even when he was a backup goalie. This is simply a great acquisition, and while we may all be a bit surprised about his performance, I’m not sure the Canadiens head office didn’t recognize his potential when they acquired him. Whoever it is in Montreal who picks out the goaltenders, that person needs a raise.
I feel so great to once again have a stellar goaltender who clearly relies more on focus and positioning than on luck. They are doing a great job with this team: thank God Gaigney is here!
November 29, 2006 at 11:11 am
Happy Habs won (kudos to Huet), but disappointed the Canadiens didn’t stamp their authority all over the game. I expected the Habs to be just as motivated as the Panthers which would equate to a superior performance, but it didn’t work out that way.
QUESTION. I would not be disappointed if Huet didn’t have to go to the all-star game and could rest – however, it irks me that he is not recognized while Raycroft is. I know the all-star lineup is determined by the fans voting, but is it the fans that decide who is on the ballot, too? If the fans determine the ballot, too, then Huet’s absence is just a matter of other cities having more voter participation. If the ballot is determined by the NHL, then I would be interested in understanding how they came to chose Raycroft over Huet?? More “Toronto is the center of the hockey universe” B.S.
BTW – you guys should check out http://www.habsinsideout.com – a new site run by the boys from the gazette. Lots of commentary with the 1st podcast containing some entertaining comments at the end about T.O.
November 29, 2006 at 11:18 am
Another spectacular game by Huet:(I sure hope everyone at Sportsnet, Darren Dreger, Pierre McGuire, Glenn Healy, and Mark Osbourne have been watching Huet’s last 6 games.)
But can someone please light a couple of fires under Ryder and Samsonov.
Ryder:1 goal in his last 14 games.
Samsonov:0 goals in his last 13 games.
I know we’ve been saying it all season but these two need to step up. the surprising thing about Ryder is that he’s playing for a long term deal and he’s not preforming.
November 29, 2006 at 12:34 pm
Don’t know what’s going on with Ryder really, I tought we would have a good year. He is not playing bad on the ice, he play the puck, try something sometimes but we don’t really see him. Looks like he watch Koivu and Latendresse (Higgins before) make their play, instead of joining them.
For Samsonov… what can you say really…. he skate but doesn’t do much anything else… may be he is too fast and the others guys never know where he is….
HabsInBlood : Not sure if it’s true, but I saw it on TV. They said that in the off-season, the guys choose who should be included in the list. They meet again in October to choose the guys that should be added or removed.
So what you see on the list, are the guys who were HOT LAST YEAR. and Huet was hot, but they all tought it was just a matter of time before he goes down, and in october he didn’t have a good chart like he have now. That probably explain why he is not on the list and Raycroft is….
November 29, 2006 at 12:52 pm
Thanks for the info. The funny thing is didn’t Raycroft suck in Boston last year?
November 29, 2006 at 12:59 pm
Geez, I remember reading in October how a lot of you idiots were all over Huet for not being as sharp as Aebischer and that he should be traded while I said he’d find his old form… I’m right, you gunjumpers are all wrong. Thank God you aren’t the GM. I also read how you’re all over Sergei Samsonov cuz he isn’t scoring. Now I know you all seem to love one dimensional scorers but he ain’t one of those, in fact, look at his career stats, he’s at best a 20-30 goal guy. He’s a great skater and a smart crafty forward who always gives all. So yeah, get all over the guy. Did any of you ever think of the little unseen things that he does? His teammates, his coaches and us fans with real hockey sense all appreciate him. I’ve said before here and I’ll say it again now, some of you so-called Habfans are more akin to being Leaf fans, whining when you lose and complaining when you win, never content with anything. You disgust me.
November 29, 2006 at 1:01 pm
But the problem is, it’s the fans determining who gets on the allstar team, when it really should be determined bt the coaches, GM’s and commentators.Let’s let the experts decide. I’m sure, that if they look at wins, save%, and such, they will come to realize that a goalie, such as Huet, should be on the team.Fans in large cities, such as NY and Boston, are going to stuff the ballot box. So population should not determine who is on, and who isn’t. I hope NHL officials will change the format.
As far as the habs are concerned, it’s nice that we won, ( but by the scantest margin), but where was the offence? We were playing Florida, a last place team with a horrible road record. we couldn’t manage to get any goals by ALEX AULD? C’mon guys pick up your game. Yeah, Huet was good,but you can’t always depend on him. what if he happens to have a bad game? Our offence has gone to sleep, but now it must wake up, because we’re playing in Carolina on Thursday, and back home to meet our arch rivals, LEAFS, whom I hate! I see Samsanov skating, but never finishing the plays.Ryder seems lost lately and just plain invisible.Plekanec is a DEFENSIVE player, and doesn’t belong on the 2nd line. Move Bonk to 2nd line, until we can find a replacement. Perehzogin skates, but never finishes.If only we could replace Samsanov, and Perehzogin with finishers,and guys who know what they’re doing, then we would be okay.I hate to criticize,but honestly we have scored 3 goals in the last 2 games. not acceptable. Remember, teams with offence such as Buffalo, and Atlanta,will score. And when we get behind, we simply don’t have the offence to come back. Last night I watched the post game press conference, and Carbo said:”we must find a way to score goals, especially 5 on 5.We’re very weak on offence;We need more production, and we must play 60 minutes of hockey”! guys,this is straight from Carbo’s mouth, not mine! So heed what he said, because he is telling the truth!Tho we have a good record, remember, cups aren’t won in November. I can recall us getting off to a good start last year, then we started losing, went into the the tank, and backed into the playoffs on the LAST GAME of the season!Do we want the same results?
November 29, 2006 at 1:09 pm
There’s such a thing as negativity, but there’s also CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM! What I’m stating, was stated by CARBO, so listen to him!People who think are offence is fine, should look at our goal production compared to other winning teams.it takes both offence and defence to win games. yes we’re winning now, but come January and February,(without changes), what will happen?
November 29, 2006 at 1:32 pm
fanatic1…everything past the all-star stuff is right on. On the last blog, Big Kevin saw things from a different perspective…insightful too!
Not sure of Carbonneau’s long haul as coach but I’m hoping he’ll get the rest of the Habs working on a consistent and productive mode. Go Habs Go!
November 29, 2006 at 1:52 pm
Always remember that a goalie success (and his failure) is often influenced by the defense around him. The fact that guys like Komi, etc, are playing with more confidence is helping Huet case. Not to take anything away from him, but I am sure even he would admit that the defensive play of the HABS is helping him.
November 29, 2006 at 2:13 pm
The next two games should be nerve wraking;step on those’s Leifs and kick ‘em
around all game please.
November 29, 2006 at 2:26 pm
Hey, if boston can beat T.O. 4-1, we should be able to get a couple goals on them. Raycroft may be good, but he aint no all-star and I’m sure nobody out there knows why he is in the all-star list, except for Laffs fans that’ll have a hundred reasons to rant about how good he is…
November 29, 2006 at 3:03 pm
I really think that the exchange *Garon for Bonk and Huet* was a mother*censured* exchange. And i remember when people cried about how Garon was good lol. I have faith in Gainey, i have faith in Carbo, i have faith. Go Habs Go!!!
November 29, 2006 at 3:11 pm
HOw dare anyone criticize me!! I am the great and almighty Darren Dreger. I have been on both TSN and sportsnet. BUt since you all seem to disagree with me I have come up with new predictions:
1) Habs miss the playoffs every year fo r thenext 400 years.
2) Leafs win th epresidents trophy
3) HUet is lucky until christmas then does his human zamboni thingy.
4) TSN will rank #1 in non interesting, all american clashes. ex Minne vs SJ
5) Pierre McGuire wil win the Noble Prize for his book on Huet.
Anyways I am the great Darren Dragqueen so you must all obey my predictions and worship me.
November 29, 2006 at 3:15 pm
I just came onto this blog to tell everyone something very important. I have noticed Huet likes to go down alot. Kinda like every other butterflyu goalie that has ever played. Soon teams will know this and HUet will be really bad. Like cmon how hard is it to have the best Save % and GAA in the league??? I say it is all luck.
November 29, 2006 at 3:17 pm
Go Leafs!!!
November 29, 2006 at 3:17 pm
I think Kovalev is selfish.
November 29, 2006 at 4:23 pm
what are all these leafs guys doing on our blog? you guys get bored of speaking to self-minded, uninteresting squareheads called leaf fans and decided to see our cool blog?
November 29, 2006 at 4:26 pm
oh wait… I just got the joke… man I feel stupid rite now…
November 29, 2006 at 4:52 pm
they are just impersonators, because they can’t think of anything intelligent to say, kind of like their namesake.they belong on a blog for children, because their mentality is such!Hey morons, go back to living under a rock!
November 29, 2006 at 5:53 pm
I agree – is there a way to introduce an I.Q. test that signups must pass before being allowed to participate in this blog.
November 29, 2006 at 7:16 pm
The canadian junior team has asked the Habs permission to have Guillaume on their team. If Higgins was healthy I would have said go for it because it probably would have been a good experience for him after last year’s turney. He probably would have been given more responsibility and he would take in some more lessons on what it takes to win.
BUT, since higgins is injured unless Kotstitsyn(who I noticed scored two goals last night, set up by Grabovski who it’s good to see back and playing with the Bulldogs) is ready to step up, I don’t see or think he should go.
November 29, 2006 at 7:27 pm
NEWS FLASH……..LEAFS WIN 1967 STANLEY CUP…..
November 29, 2006 at 8:01 pm
I wasn’t born then! was that the old days when there was only 6 teams? I think leaf fans were forced to watch it on black and white tv, because color tv’s weren’t in existence yet.Also, microwave ovens weren’t invented yet.so, how long have dinosaurs been extinct? as long as it’s been since the leafs won the cup!Better plant those buds again,and wait another 1,000 years!
November 29, 2006 at 8:06 pm
Oh by the way guys, that was me who put those ridiculous posts from the TSN panel on here. IT was meant to be very very sarcastic. It was no tLeafs fans it was just my way of makinthe TSN panel eat their own mo*onic words.
November 29, 2006 at 8:36 pm
I love this blog!
First, let me say the comments by most, but especially Groundworking and HB itself, are a pleasure to read. It really shows that these are a group of serious Habs and hockey fans; it’s what makes the game, the team, and discussion thereof, great. Who cares about the Toronto gang (incl. TSN) anyway? Most of them could only dream about the following the RDS team get!!!
I agree with smiler###, there are some who want to trade the team on a bad pass. There is no such thing as a perfect team, especially in this Gary Bettman era, so we need to give a little slack when blackouts occur.
Speaking of which, both Ryder and Sammy have been disappointing, there’s no doubt. But with the better part of 3/4 of a season to go, anything more than Carbo’s “motivational” press conferences would be silly. I am convinced that both these guys will be showing up when crunch time happens. As someone commented a few posts ago, don’t forget the meltdown last year during the time that Theo lost all those games and Markov was hurt. We have a far deeper team this year.
Finally, Latendresse should definately go to the Championships. The opportunity to play for your country (and hopefully win) will help his confidence. He knows he’s made the big team, and what it takes to stay there, so there’s less likelihood of last year’s shenanegans at the Juniors. The Habs have some depth and now’s the time to test it… even iat the cost of a game or two. Bring Kostitsyn up and let him play a little in the big leagues. Higgins in back in 3-4 weeks and we need to know what happens (hopefully not!!) in case of more injuries.
November 30, 2006 at 2:51 am
I really don’t think Huet’s concerned about all-star recognition perse. I think being an athlete on a team, he works to gain respect from his team mates through demonstration and performance and when he isn’t successful on some nights, he’s disappointed. Apart from this, Huet doesn’t strike me as a person in need of the trappings and festival associated with the all-star break to validate his worth. I’m sure he would enjoy the moment, but in my opinion, being the ‘cool cuke’ he appears to be, i seriously don’t think he places as high a value on an all-star team (spot) as he does staying focussed on the job at hand. And this is what i would rather see than for him to get caught up in the distractions the all-star game could bring.
Besides, he only started catching fire recently. To put him on the ballot even a month ago would have presumably brought a few HUH’s? to this blog anyway. Right or wrong?
BTW, Dreger’s not that bad. The mind boggles though, when Sportsnet’s Kypreos opens his yap. He loves to hear himself talk and adds little to the commentary. Remember 2 minutes in the box (or something like that)? He makes Don Cherry look like Einstein. And what about that other freak with the weirdie beardo and sunglasses on that live radio show. WTF is that? Another aural-narcissist, only this guy’s still looking for that roach he dropped on the floor in 1983. Fckn’ sad…
End-Rant
November 30, 2006 at 9:35 am
Appropos… Did anyone hear Tie Domi during intermission on TSN (sorry, there wasn’t much on and I took in part of the Wild/SJ game) last night? When asked which team would he most have liked to play for (but din’t) during his career, he answered… you can guess the rest… the Habs!!! I guess that’s one point for respect!!! Wow.
November 30, 2006 at 12:26 pm
hey Gumper, the weirdo beardo with sunglasses on the radio is Bob McCown. Been on Toronto TV sports and radio since the late ’70s. He’s a transplanted American but pretty much is totally Canadianized. Kind of into himself, says he wears the shades cuz the TV lights in the radio studio are so bright, yeah whatever. Not much of a Leaf fan, which is a plus but tends to be full of himself and prefers talking the business end of sports rather than the games themselves. Yawn.
November 30, 2006 at 12:30 pm
Who’s Tie Domi?
November 30, 2006 at 3:28 pm
God help us all if the leafs fluke out and win a cup in the next 20 years,the national media coverage would be more unbearable than it is now.BUT THEN AGAIN
NOT TO WORRY ,PIGS CAN’T FLY!