Jason Woolley possibly signing with Habs
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RDS and La Presse report the Canadiens are in negotiations with Defensemen Jason Woolley.
Woolley would fill the hole left by Francis Bouillon’s injury. At 37 years of age he is no spring chicken but comes with 15 years of NHL experience.
His price can’t be too high.Temporary fix or permanent solution? Or is he just one part of a multiplayer deal that will see more players swapped?
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- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - Sure, the only player I'd say who is untradeable (meaning I wouldn't trade no matter what) is Carey Price. You build a winning team from the net out, and I don't think there's a better goalie for his age in the NHL than Price, so I wouldn't trade him. Otherwise, every player would be open for offers, but for PK Subban, it would take (for me) an already established star, like Carter or Crosby or Ovechkin. As much as I like Ovechkin, I'm not sure he could handle all the media pre
- goalie : I'm not suggesting at all that we judst dump or get rid of PK. I do however believe that he is a very valued commodity in the NHL adn that the Habs will receive offers for his services. If someone ffers us young, strong, puck handling forwards who can score, I think the Habs have to look at that possible trade.
- Avatar37 : Agreed. It would be a big mistake to trade PK just to move up 2 spots in the draft. PK, Emelin, and Gorges are the bright future of our defense.
- Senet1 : I am with you Avatar, Subban stays, it is not often that you get a stud defenceman who can play 25+ minutes. The mistakes he makes are for the most part not that serious and people forget he is only 23 and been in the league 2 years. He has come a long way in those two years. He has offense, defence and he hits. You cannot bet much better than that. Two more years experience and he has a shot at the Norris. If Markov does anything I hope he teaches PK how to work the PP.
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- Avatar37 : round exit. Heck, even the year they won the cup we almost took them out in round 1. I believe in the corps of this team, I really think we just need a few tweaks. Adding Larry Robinson to run the defense would be a BIG help, keep Cunneyworth as offensive coach, and get a head coach who can get these guys back on the right path. We need to establish an identity again, a team that won't let itself be pushed around like it was under Martin. A few scrappers on this team and we'll be good to
- Avatar37 : Yeah, the only way I'd trade PK is if we were getting an established star in return, like Carter or Crosby. I don't think we're miles away from competing deep into the playoffs, the NHL has become so competitive because of the salary cap that really there aren't huge differences between the teams. Add into the equation the stupid scoring system (some games worth 2 points, some 3) that the standings don't truly reflect where teams should really be. Look at Boston, cup winners to first rou
- Senet1 : It would have to be something pretty special before I would trade PK. To me he is the #1 building block of our defence. I would trade any other defenceman we have before I would trade PK.
- Senet1 : An improvement in our offense and strengthening our defence. Personally, I do not think we are that far off, five players at best could get us there. One thing that has always been true about the playoffs, Defence wins and you need a strong 3rd and 4th line.
- goalie : I'm more optimistic now about the Habs than I have been for the past three dreadfully long seasons!
- goalie : 2: I think GM Bergevin will make somewhat of a 'blockbuster't rade either before or on the day of the draft adn I believe PK Subban will be in that package. WE have t rememebr we have to give away some talent to get back other talent. No one wants players like Moen to move up in the draft etc.
- goalie : Some thoughts:The more I see the playoffs it becomes even more obvious that we're miles away from being able to 'compete' dep into the playoffs
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- Senet1 : Young Subban might also be an option if the Russian goalie is not available. However, to me I would wait another year and attempt to use my draft 2nd round draft picks to improve out forward situation.
- Senet1 : Although Rinne contact is another example of long term at the wrong time. He is 29 years old. A case could be made with Price that double his money now with bonuses if we win the cup, I think that is still allowed in contracts?
- Senet1 : Problem is he is going to want Pekka Rinne money and term. That is closer to 7M. On the other hand, the contract could have step up clauses in it over the 7 years.
- Avatar37 : With Price, I wouldn't blink twice about offering him a 7 year contract now, especially if he'd be willing to give up dollar value for length. 7 years at $5.5 million a year would be just fine in my book.
- Avatar37 : I think the goaltending void in our current system would push me to draft Vasilevski with our second pick, if he was available. He's young and has lots of potential, but is at least 5-6 years away from starting to be ready to play on an NHL roster.
- Senet1 : Long tern contracts are a risk, but if you have a super star not as much. Luongo's contract was long term but signed too late in his career.
- Avatar37 : Senet - Yes, you were clear in your post, my question was directed at goalie. I'm with you in that I'd be willing to sign him to a 7 year contract. I'd be nervous about anything longer, because every single long term goalie contract I can think of turned out to be a disaster for the team signing it.
- Senet1 : I think that Budaj is a better goalie than many give him credit for, is he a Price no but with a tight defence he could be a good goalie. Many teams have average goalies but have great defence and still win. Look at Detroit, for years they have had average goaltending, but won cups. Goalies can get on a roll in the playoffs, look at Huet as an example, he was not really a good goalie but played great in the playoffs, next year he was a wash. Defence makes the goalie a winner, just ask Price.
- Senet1 : Having a young equivalent goalie in the system right now is not important, three years from now it will be, so we have three years to make that kind of move in the draft. I think we have more pressing needs aat the moment.
- Senet1 : Personally, I do not see this as a negative because of Price's age, you wait to draft a goalie of a Patrick Roy or Brodeur some teams wait a life time. To me we have on so why would we want to not play that out for as long as we can. Bottom line is this, regardless, right now you have a stud goalie, you are either going to pay him the money he deserves for not sign him and lose him. There is no middle of the road here.
- goalie : Avatar made a great point. We don't have an NHL or up adn coming NHL goalies in our system. Another great move by Gauthier. Price is sitting very pretty.
- goalie : WEll Price has us by the nads. I guess I'd have to go as far as a 7 year contract due to his play adn his age.
- Senet1 : Luongo is now 33, he has been a good goaltender for a number of years. I would sign Price for 7 years and at age 31 then we deal with UFA at that time. Hopefully, we could provide him with another 5 years at that time. That is my opinion anyway, I would never risk losing him as a UFA at this point in his career to me that would be a very poor management decision. Even a 10 year contract would put him only at 34 years old. If you are going to sign him to long term now is the time.
- Senet1 : If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him a contract that is worthy of his abilities and his potential. It can have escalation clauses or reducing clauses like Kovalchuk's contract.
- Senet1 : Avatar, I thought I was clear Yes I would sign him long term. My previous post said. The problem is if you have a out in the contract after 5 years then the player also has an out after 5 years. So no self respected lawyer would accept a contract that did not have equal escape clauses. So no I would not sign only for 5 years, if Price was 28 years old yes but not a 24. Seven years still only makes him 31 when the contract is over. If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him
- Avatar37 : Cammalleri trade. Given the fact that we have no NHL starting quality goaltenders in the system currently, aren't we held hostage to having to sign Price?
- Avatar37 : There are many bad goalie contracts, just look at Huet. However, your post didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with Price. He's an RFA now, but for argument sake, if he were a UFA, what would you do? If he wanted a 7+ year contract, you know some other team would give him one. Would you risk losing him for nothing because you didn't want to sign a contract over 5 years? And if we lose Price, our goalies are Budaj and Robert Mayer, as we sent Karri Ramo to the Flames in the Cam
- goalie : .. a 5 years contract again based upon the experience he has had AND he likes Bobby Lou!
- goalie : Ditto for Philly, Ther goaltender 'situations' have both become the number 1 story line for both teams, and in Vancouver one could see the exaspiration on Gillis' adn to some extent Vigneault's faces when continously being bombarded by the loooong term contract that the Canucks are stuct with. (Gillis even said last February or so, thank goodness it looks like more than few other teams will be looking for a starting goaltender for 2012-13. He said he would never again do more than a 5 year c
- goalie : I've spent the past four winters in BC thus I am very aware of the Canucks situations. I'd first say I give Gillis adn Vigneault 100% credit for being VERY supportive of Roberto L. even when Corey Schenider has vastly out played him. (I too like Bobby Lou but facts are facts).
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September 11, 2006 at 2:26 pm
This site is growing fast, July 15th marked one year since I created it and only one actual hockey season has passed. There were 0 visitors for a long time and I remember having to generate conversation 100% on my own. Now the site has hundreds of regulars and many more lurkers and random visitors.
I’m not around 24/7 to supervise people fighting with each other, and up until this point it was never really a problem. The larger the site gets and the wider the age gap the more of this there will be.
Perhaps I should ‘hire’ some comment moderators. If that is in someones interest they can contact me.
As far as RDS rumors being ‘true’ or not, RDS is a much more reputable media outlet than some of the total gibberish spewed by anyone who feels like it on the sidebar shoutbox. A Rumor is a rumor, not fact. Take it for what it’s worth or if you prefer, don’t read it.
If you notice the ‘rumors’ section has 29 posts in it. 29 over 14 months. Compared to several hundred other type of post. So I really don’t post all the gibberish that is being spewed out there.
September 11, 2006 at 7:27 pm
Just to inform you guys I’m not a fluent English speaker (or writer!) I’m just trying my best…And for those who are curious where I come from then I’ll tell you I’m from Montreal and I have never spoken English before. Therefore I would want you guys to support me instead od rejecting…It would facilitate everyhting. I could therefore express myself and share my ideas with you guys instead of correcting my grammar. I have lots of amelioration to bring into into it.
*This is one of the few occasion where I can express myself in English
September 11, 2006 at 7:29 pm
Any rumours if Gainey and Carbo will be lacing it up for the PK this year. They could probably still do the job.
Muliple personalities? As long as all of his personalities are favourable towards the Habs.
September 11, 2006 at 7:31 pm
Hey JT, just dont bash Gainey’s work.
September 11, 2006 at 7:34 pm
And for the “habs” and “Jack thornton, what the hell are you talking about?” I can assume that this is the same person.
proof #1: After 15 minutes article # 30 wrote by “Jack thornton, what the hell are you talking about?” was written, somehow Habs came and backed him up
proof #2: After 10 minutes somewhere else in the site this “Jack thornton, what the hell are you talking about?” wrote a negative comment about me and somehow a blogger by the name of “Habs ” backed him up.
Hust to reming you I’m trying working on my English
September 11, 2006 at 7:38 pm
snake:
I’ve never bashed Gainey’s work without any reason. Wjhat I mean is that Gainey might be a good GM but that doesn’t really means that any trade that he will do be only beneficial to us. I’m againt all those people that think Bob Gainey is a winner on every trade.
If no one is againt Bob and that everyone thinks positive about him then there would be nothing to debate about..
anyways I hope you guys get a clearer impression of ( dont really konw what it mean!)lol
September 11, 2006 at 9:22 pm
Oh stop it everyone (and sorry about the typo, they happen)!
And, by the way, welcome to English and non-English speakers: we’re all Habs fans (I trust). That’s what makes this site great.
Let’s thank Habs Blog for the best Blog on the net and get back to useful discussion about the Habs!!
Finally, back on topic, forget about Jason Woolley; let the rookies play until Bouillon is back and then make decisions without any reason to panic.
September 12, 2006 at 2:23 am
The rookies aren’t ready yet. If Wooley signed he’d wind up a fringe player so no one would have to feel threated by his signing (unless he really tears it up).
Point is, we can use all the depth on defense we can get. I’d rather not have to watch Striet lose games for us single-handedly anymore.
September 12, 2006 at 9:38 am
I think Streit is a better option then Cote at this time but there is some question about Streit’s health starting the season. It never hurts to have depth. If not now, we will be acquiring a d man somewhere down the line. ANd Jack Thornton you dont have to get so defensive, and why do you keep talking about Jack Thornton. ??
September 12, 2006 at 9:21 pm
ANd Jack Thornton you dont have to get so defensive, and why do you keep talking about Jack Thornton. ??
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September 12, 2006 at 11:09 pm
smarty pants.
September 13, 2006 at 7:35 am
1 name to solve all the Habs problems. Marleau!!!! Perfect fit, near perfect player. I would trade both Kostisyn bros, Rivet and a first rounder. IT would be worth it with the effects it would have on us. Bob is a brilliant GM so you know he has looked into this possibility. The price is high and Price may be the key word there. I can guarantee you that Doug Wilson asked for Markov, Higgins and a 1st. Obviously too steep but you have to high ball when you have the player that is desired. Imagine Sammy-Marleau-Kovalev. That would be the BEST line in hockey.
Who is the worst skater you have ever seen:
a) John LeClair
b) Dave Andreychuk
c) Raphael
d) Mike Grier
e) Turner Stevenson
September 13, 2006 at 4:27 pm
stop bashing on people snake
go get a life
September 14, 2006 at 5:47 am
Why trade for Marleau when we can get him as a free agent once his contract expires? The Sharks won’t be able to afford Bell, Thornton, Cheechoo, Hannan, and Marleau all at once and if I’m not mistaken, Marleau will be the one they’ll have to cut loose due to the duration and payment of the other players’ contracts.
September 14, 2006 at 9:41 am
Hey Alestar, who did I bash? JOhn Leclair was a bad skater.
DO you really want to wait another two years for a big talented center?
WHy would Marleau come here when he was a free agent? Leave the beach for the taxes. hmmm.
September 14, 2006 at 1:59 pm
Hey Snake: that moron is not Alestar, I am (my post in this thread was #49). He’s apparently taken to the name I use, he’s been posting with it for the last few days…Mr. Original can’t think up his own.
BTW, the worst skater I ever saw in a Habs uniform was John Chabot…dude, that was UGLY!
September 14, 2006 at 2:35 pm
okay cool, yeah I thought that was a suspicious.
Its probably Jack Thornton.
October 5, 2006 at 6:21 pm
What a pick up!
Not only is Jason a competent defenceman, but he is also a locker room leader and great team player.
Bon chances.
March 4, 2007 at 12:52 am
I went to high school with Jason. He’s still a great playe. He works hard and is still ingreat shape for 37.