J.P Dumont to sign with Nashville Predators
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The speculation is finally over and as expected J.P Dumont will not be a Montreal Canadien.
Le Journal de Montreal and RDS report that Dumont has signed a deal with the Nashville Predators. A team that wasn’t high on most peoples radar screen since Nashville is nowhere close to Quebec or the Northeast where Dumont apparently wanted to start his family.
The terms
are undisclosed[update: $4.5 Million/2 years] as of now but probably include the best financial offer Dumont received as it was rumored he had offers from strong teams like Detroit and Ottawa.Money aside, Dumont will be a good fit in a speedy and dangerous Nashville offence which now includes Jason Arnott, Steve Sullivan, Paul Kariya, Josef Vasicek and David Legwand.
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- goalie : In all fairness to AK...he has played more aggressively and has been more involved the last 5 games or so. Amazing what UFA does to a player. If we could get 25+ goals plus a consistent effort I would want him on my team. His biggest downside is his inconsistency to be involved in the play.
- Senet1 : Also the addition of Blunden and even Leblanc is not shy to throwing body checks. Also PK has been more aggressive lately
- Senet1 : That is partly because of the change in coaching styles and the addition of Bourque.
- Senet1 : If we kept Plekanec and Bourgue then we need a shooter on that line. So to me from a forward standpoint we need to add a goal scorer, but one who goes to the net and is not knocked around. To me based on our offence this year that is the most needed position to fill on our forward lines. When you consider that we got ride of Cammy, and if we trade Gionta and Gomez disappears we are no longer a small team. The team has more grit now than at the first of the year.
- Senet1 : So we have to add some muscle as well as skill to our second & third lines and upgrade our fourth line as well. I could see Leblanc moving in as the centre on the second line if we got something good Plekanecs, otherwise, he could play the wing on either the second or third line. Blunden seemed to score faily well in the AHL not sure if he has it in him but would like to seem him on a line with Eller and maybe Leblanc next year all three players like to use their bodies and therefore should be
- Senet1 : Not counting Markov if he plays. If we trade or let go of our UFA defenceman then we will need at least three D-men, I would like a good look at Nash to see if he can play at this level. If not he is gone, I do not think any of our other defensive prospects are ready quite yet. Our junior and college players should be coming on stream for Hamilton next year so we will get to see how much they have developed and whether any are ready for the big time.
- Senet1 : While I agree we have quite a few players that could be made available, I do not see a need to make wholesale changes only the necessary one. obviously Gomez, Gionta, AK46(if he will not sign) I keep our top line of Cole, Pacman and David. I keep Eller and Leblanc, Blunden, Bourque, probably Plecanec unless we can really improve on his positin. I keep PK, Emelin, Gorges, Diaz and Naturally Price. Probably Budaj. That basically gives us two functional line and two sets of defence, not counting
- goalie : Great to see Pacs gets su=ome success after the devestating dirty check last season that could have paralyzed him for life.
- goalie : Given ho the team has played this season one thing in our favor is that we pretty much need to clean house. Other than about 6-7 guys everyone else would be available in my mind.
- goalie : After how the tes]am has
- Avatar37 : Apparently only one offer for Carter on the low side so far, I think Montreal would be foolish not to investigate the possibility of a trade for him, and if there is low interest, the deal might be able to include moving Gomez. Gomez/Darche/Cam poli and a third round pick? Maybe not, but I'd be in serious talks with Columbus right about now.
- Avatar37 : «link»
- Avatar37 : for him had we held on to him until now and created a bidding war. There are more buyers than sellers currently on the market and it would have been the perfect time to have traded him.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - I'm not sure how we could have obtained more for Halak. We showcased him, everyone knew he was available for trade, and in the end, we took the best offer. Any asset is only worth what a purchaser will pay for it. The Halak trade wasn't like the Cammalleri trade where you had GMs afterwards saying they didn't even know he was on the market. The Halak trade was done properly, the Cammelleri trade was a knee-jerk panic move, and while my opinion is that we could have received more
- Avatar37 : I saw the game, the Islanders first goal came from a shot that was clearly above the height of the crossbar. How is it possible for a play to go to review where they have the advantage of mulitple camera angles and the ability to pause and they STILL get the call wrong?
- goalie : I agree don't get dilusional over our three game winning streak. Changes MUST be made. I am however, glad to see the effort being put forth by the players.
- Mats Naslund : I just went to capgeek to see who the Avalanche might be dealing for a rental - and I see they have only 6 players signed for next season!!! There are a couple young D men on that squad who are RFAs who would do very nicely next season.
- Mats Naslund : One thing I know - the 3 game winning streak had better not get PG thinking about holding onto guys for a PO run. Trade them, build the value and move on to next year.
- Mats Naslund : How about Max Pac though.. 21 goals and on pace for 65 points this year. That is absolutely monster for a guy at his age/experience and especially coming after a horrific injury. Huge cornerstone moving forward. On pace for 33 goals.. could he get 35?
- Mats Naslund : Didn't get to see it either - and while I don't really care about the win, I am very glad that Gomez scored so we don't have to endure all of the negativity in the media about him for the rest of the year. He still su@ks, but at least it won't be a topic every shift he takes.
- goalie : Didn't get to see the game at all but it's great to see Pacs get a hat trick and fpor Cole to be + 3. When was the last time this team won three games in a row? Great victory -looks like they're giving 100% effort!
- Senet1 : 4-2 win habs
- Senet1 : Gomez scores, Yea!!!
- goalie : As I said yesterday it will be interesting to see what our lame ass GM gets for players he ships out. Bourque is good and he'll help us but I still think we could have gotten more for him and for Halak when he was traded.
- Avatar37 : round those picks occur (probably 3rd).
- Avatar37 : An interesting article. If we slip to the 5th or 7th draft pick, a very interesting case could be made for drafting Galchenyuk. If we wind up with the second or third pick, I'm not sure who I'd draft, because clearly Yakupov is going to be drafted first overall. Our second round pick also becomes interesting, I know I'd take Vasilevski if he were still available. It will also be interesting to see if we can turn some of our veteran players (Moen, Gill, Campoli) into draft picks, and what
- Avatar37 : «link»
- Avatar37 : That is why PG should have waited on trading Cammalleri. Right now, there is a high demand for a top 6 forward, we could have gotten much more than Bourque in return. That isn't a knock against Bourque, but a knock against a knee-jerk reaction trade that didn't maximize our return on a top asset.
- Avatar37 : «link»
- Avatar37 : chips fall where they may. After all, the only difference between finishing 17th and 29th is how good a pick you get in the draft.
- Avatar37 : We currently sit in 26th place in the league. We are 15 points ahead of Columbus, it's safe to bet at this point they will place last. We are, however, only 4 points ahead of Edmonton so it's still wide open as to who is going to finish second last. I still think that it's time to sit the veterans, play the youth, let them get experience, and regroup for next year. I'm not suggesting deliberately tanking like the Penguins, but give all our young players lots of playing time and let the c
- Avatar37 : goalie - If it were not for the play of Cammalleri, we would never have made it out of round 1. Cammalleri played as big a part, if not bigger, than Halak did. Sure, Halak played well, but remember the team collapsed in front of him, making his job much easier. We had lots of blocked shots and the ones that got through were typically from the outside.
- Senet1 : Goalie you are absolutely right, of course the one thing we had the two previous years that won the games that we are losing this year was our power play. If you look at say 10 games that we should have won had we had a similar power play, again we would not be having these conversations. When your PP goes from first to last in the league that is a lot of goals.How many games have we lost this year by one goal. Again poor management who did not prepare for Markov's possible absence.
- goalie : I'll put it another way.... we need more players who are willing to get their noses dirty.
- goalie : Two years ago when our goaltending stole series adn our players suddenly scored the coaches / GM believed that that was our true team . Well time has proven that was not. Though I was very glad to see the Habs knock off some very good teams we were very fortunate. And fortunate that spring was spelled HALAK!
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August 29, 2006 at 11:56 am
Sorry, this doesn’t have anything to do with Dumont, other than good luck and I hope this doesn’t come back to haunt the Habs. THis is for the person running this site. I tried four times to log so I can chat with fellow hab fans. I filled in the areas (e.g. name, email addie, etc…) and I was told to expect an email with a password. So, what’s up? I didn’t receive anything. Four time!?!??!!!?? Look into this please!!!
August 29, 2006 at 12:23 pm
As I have posted before, hockey market or not, Nashville is a great town to see a game: arena is in the middle of the bar/club district, walking distance to hotels, never snows, etc. Have consistently put an entertaining product on the ice. Beats the hell out of all other Southern American nhl towns.
August 29, 2006 at 12:41 pm
…and they are starting to put together a serious team.
August 29, 2006 at 12:53 pm
Rumors says he will get 2 millions first year and 2.5 second year.
Was it really hard in montreal to offer the same thing ? Was it possible to make a 2million marge for a guy like this for the canadian ? Well, either Gainey wasn’t able to, or he didn’t want him or tought he needed some money aside to make trade during the season to get better players and exchange some.
Well, Nashville lost a really good goalie this off-season but they have a serious team on attack, it should be great for Dumont.
August 29, 2006 at 1:41 pm
Word is 4.5M for two years. He did well finding a good salary range with ateam where he can play on the top two lines.
With Montreal I think he was headed towards the third, and his talent and salary demand would not have been in sinc with that type of role. It’s unfortunate.
Montreals top 4 wingers as it stands are Ryder, Higgins, Kovalev and Samsonov. How would Dumont unseat any of those. Had Samsonov not been signed, the Habs would have jumped on J.P. as if he were a gift from heaven.
As things stand, I would not have wanted Higging’ progression slowed due to the signing of Dumont. It would have created some turbulance on the team, but would have been ideal with any injury scenario.
It’s all a question of depth versus capping out. Possibly Gainey has other avenues we will not hear about until they are done deals. Who knows?
Last week in the Journal de Montreal, Bertrand Raymond wrote his usual honest take on the Dumont situation. It was quite revealing and surprisingly pointed. I enjoyed it so much, I transcribed it into english and posted it on my blog. Here the link if you care to check it out. It’s called “Bob Gainey’s Hot Potato”.
http://wwwrealitycheckeyesontheprize.blogspot.com/2006/08/bob-gaineys-hot-potato.html
August 29, 2006 at 4:20 pm
With all due respect to Habs fans, I think it’s highly probable that J.P. made the choice for the Preds because he, like a lot of others believe this is a team making a serious move for Cup contention.
In addition to newcomers Arnott, Vasicek, and now Dumont to join Kariya, Sullivan and Erat, the Preds have possibly the next Ovetchkin-type young Russian winger in rookie Alexander Radulov, who absolutely tore up the QMJHL last season, his second in North America, scoring 152 points for the Québec Remparts.
Even if Radulov needs an extra season in the minors (AHL/Milwaukee), things really look good for the Preds, if not in 06-07, then certainly for the following season.
Can’t help but be excited to be a hockey fan in Nashville.
Best of luck to the Habs this season!
And BTW, J-Nic said the Preds lost a goalie? Who does he mean? Although he did miss the playoffs with a somewhat mysterious blood disease, #1 goalie Tomas Vokoun has now been given a clean bill of health and will be ready to start the season. His backup, Chris Mason was re-signed, and Pecca Renne remains their top prospect in goal at Milwaukee, so what has changed?
August 29, 2006 at 4:24 pm
Higgins could have easily been put between Kovalev and Samsonov, as he is a natural centre.
Now we’re stuck with Bonk and Ribeiro. Chipchura could have replaced Bonk no problem.
Not-so-great move Bobby, keeping those 2 guys around is inexcusable.
August 29, 2006 at 5:53 pm
AJ in Smashville : “nd BTW, J-Nic said the Preds lost a goalie? Who does he mean? Although he did miss the playoffs with a somewhat mysterious blood disease, #1 goalie Tomas Vokoun has now been given a clean bill of health and will be ready to start the season. His backup, Chris Mason was re-signed, and Pecca Renne remains their top prospect in goal at Milwaukee, so what has changed?”
Sorry I tought Vokoun future was uncertain, but looks like I was wrong.
stevejur : If you put Higgins with Kovalev and Samsonov, where will Koivu play ?
I am sure Bob tryed to exchange Bonk, but who wnat a guy like him, with his salary, no one. For Ribeiro, I don’t know, he didn’t got a great year, his value dropped from last summer and he is not so well know in the league. So we are stuck with Bonk until the end of the season, Bob could have bought his contract but that would have effect on the Canadian salary cap, but leave some place for rookies, and may be Bonk refused cause he know his carreer will probably end after this season.
For Ribeiro, I don’t know what will happens with him. Unless he play good this year and get exchange, or he play really really good and stay with the habs we won’t see him again.
I think Bob did great for some players, but giving a BIG contract to Koivu before the end of the year and signing some sort of “useless” players with small contract at the beginning of the summer wasn’t really good IMO. These players are easy to get, and it’s not like if other teams really wanted them, they won’t play much in a season either and the money there would have been avaible for other players or exchanges in the futur.
August 29, 2006 at 6:13 pm
Anyway you look at it, this is another year where the Habs will lose out to the larger now grinding style of hockey. With Kovalev only working hard when the team does, Montreal does not have a leader.
Nor do they have size up front to rush the other goalie or, size to beat the larger, dirty style of hockey in the new NHL. None the less I look forward to watching Samsonev getting penalties at the worst time, between Samsonev and Souray, Montreal is headed towards a lacklustre season…..
August 29, 2006 at 6:18 pm
Where do you get the ‘dirty style of hockey in the new NHL’ ? The rule changes and penalty enforcement have changed it to the exact opposite of what you just said. Where speed and skilled gets to showcase itself and slow ‘dirty’ large defenders are losing their jobs.
August 29, 2006 at 9:21 pm
AJ in Smashville who cares about the Preds,,,,I really don’t give a damn.This is the Habs my friend and ANTHING is possible.”dirty style of hockey in the new NHL” No leadership.We get some weird ,ignorant comments on this site from time to time:=)
August 29, 2006 at 9:28 pm
We never had a chance! our team really stinks! We aren’t going to make the playoffs with a bunch of over priced, under achiever, lazy european players! also , we aren’t tough enough(especially with all our little midgets)!Gainey really blew it! We desperately needed another center; instead Gainey signs the most irritable, cocky, under achiever, over priced midgert-RIBEIRO! HE STINKS!Gainey, it’s time for you to relearn what it takes to make a good team! Koivu is one of the most over priced under producing players! When has he ever scored at least 30 goals?-NEVER,pathetic! Bonk-RIDICULOUS! How much does he make per season-2 or 3 million? for what-GARBAGE! Huet-a flash in the pan! Our team is going no where! I love what Gretzky did! He is really trying to make his team better! too bad Gainey has a bunch of lazy players!
August 29, 2006 at 10:07 pm
Too bad that the guys Gretzky went out and got are all really slow, injury prone, or over the hill slapshot.
Gainey’s building this team on speed, not size, and that’s what win’s in the new NHL.
Is Ribeiro underacheiving? yes, and he’ll probably be gone after this season and guess what no one else wants him, Bonk has turned out to be a solid number four centre and since no one else want him at his price were stuck with him. And Koivu’s the guy who set’s up the goals, not scoring them. Who do you think assisted on all on Higgins and Ryder’s goals?
This team will be a cup contender in 1-2 years. And if Huet does turn out to be a flash in the pan, why do you think they kept Aebishcer?
Looking at the options they had to deal with in the offseason with the salary cap which a lot of people seem to be forgetting, and the fact that Gainey is being smart by leaving 3 million in room so he can make additions during the season, he’s done a good job.
August 29, 2006 at 11:00 pm
I agree with you 100% habs#1
August 29, 2006 at 11:57 pm
I agree with Habs#1
But I think Gainey got stuck in the goalie part. He wanted to keep Aebischer for security but was hopping to exchange him if Huet play well, but every team have good goalies now and some others are still avaible so he will probably stay here all season, then we gonna lose him for nothing in return
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I think no one tought, including us and Gainey, that all teams would have their goalies when the season start. May be it will change during the season !?
August 30, 2006 at 2:50 am
on the same note as Habs#1 said: i’m glad that gainey didn’t way overpay some UFA just because of who the are (example Chara).
as for the huet/aebischer situation, i for one have no clue what will happen. if huet continues to perform at the .930 level the abby is gone to some team that their golie chocked/got injured and we’ll get something decent for him. if it truns out that huet was lucky then he’ll be sent away to a non-playoff team for something half-assed.
August 30, 2006 at 7:12 am
The goaltender situation is a nice play by Gainey. If Aebishcer plays well we gain ( trade bait for someone we may need in the playoffs??) and it is great protection if Huet faulters.A lot of people forget Aebishcer is a GOOD goaltender.I believe this season he will show his stuff.If he doesn’t break out the way he should a nice backup.
August 30, 2006 at 2:19 pm
Like many folks, I wasn’t high on Ribeiro last season. I was more impressed by his 2004 season. Last year he developed some annoying tendencies and they hurt his play. What people seem to forget is that this guy is still quite young and he possesses a ton of hockey smarts. Look over his junior stats again. He needs some big time maturity. Once he grows up and learns what it is to be a pro, he will develope into a much more complete player.
It comes back to what Gainey said when he initially took over the team. That it is simpler to “grow” the players within an organization than to go out shopping for what other teams are unwilling to part with. It is also cheaper!
In an organization that will become a winner, you must teach as well as coach. You must guide and groom players as they come up.
With the change in the NHL’s game last season, many including myself, pegged Ribeiro for a breakout year. I’m sure he did himself. He seems to be very disappointed in his season and I don’t think he saw eye to eye with Julien. If he is a proud player, an honest man, and a competitor, he will step it up. He has Kovalev and Samsonov as wingers – a dream. As he is unselfish with the puck, they should succeed.
Indeed, it will be his final chance. He must mature!