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- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
- Senet1 : Goalie I agree with Avatar. PK is the present and future of this teams defence. I would not even take Staal from Pittsburg unless I had him tied up in a long term contract of a Minimum of 5 years. Also once has to consider the salary difference. Pk is on the move up probably 3M plus for his next contract and then eventually 4-5M if he keeps on improving. He has moved his game up two gears since he came into the league 2 years ago. He now has to move to the next level and I believe he will as w
- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
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February 16, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Patrick: I think everyone is just saying things that they’ve dreamed about.lol
But I think that If we are going to go for the cup this year, we might have to get some expierience out there. our line with AK27,AK46 and TP are a small line that dekes and makes fancy plays, but I’m worried about them making mistakes. I’m not saying trade any of them, but I think we need a veteran guy, some one who has played for Montreal before: Y.Perrault(faceoffs),M.Rucinsky(UFA at seasons end.),Mathieu Shneider(ANH wont give him up) I don’t know,lol I think montreal is a great team and who ever they get I think they have a chance.
February 16, 2008 at 1:28 pm
With Hossa in the mix, Montreal could put two lines on the ice that needed to be shut down. That would be a huge advantage. First line: Kastitsyn, Plekanac, Kovalev. Second Line: Higgins, Koivu, Hossa.
I think that Montreal would have to give up something important. My money is on Hamrlik. He’s a good player, I agree, and we need him, I agree, but he’s making 5.5 million dollars this year, next year, the year after, and the year after that. That’s almost as much as Markov and more than Daniel Alfredson.
Hossa will command in the 6/7 million dollar range. So the question is: “where are the Canadians going to find the cap space?” And, of course, “is he worth it?”
Ryder frees up some room this year, but he’s UFA on July 1 anyhow. Hmarlik is the only asset that could really free up enough space for Montreal to sign Hossa to a longer term contract. Kovalev is also a UFA at the end of next year, and my best is that he’ll need a pay increase after playing the way he’s been playing. My bet is in the 5 million, maybe 6 million, range for Kovalev at the end of next year…
I’m not sure I’d be willing to pay Hossa the 7 million he is currently making. If Montreal can’t sign him for less than 7 million, I think he eats up more cap space that he’s worth–good of a player as he is. The best value might come by adding some grit to this team–two or three solid 3rd or 4th line players could be added for about the same price as Hossa.
So, my bet: Ryder, Hmarlik, and a first round pick or a prospect, for Hossa; unconditionally. Montreal won’t make this deal unless they get a sense of what Hossa is asking for, money-wise, and unless they can sign him right away to a contract. That’s probably where the rumours come from that Atlanta is ok with Montreal talking to Hossa–even though Montreal can’t legally make Hossa an offer until after they own his rights.
If you don’t think Montreal would trade Hamrlik for Hossa, then a) what can they offer to Atlanta and b) where do think Montreal will find the cap space?
There’s also no question that a deal is being considered, so Montreal not being interested isn’t an option that is consistent with the evidence.
February 16, 2008 at 2:17 pm
No idea none of us know anything , we pretend we do , we will all find out real soon …
February 16, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Why would we trade hamrlik. Not gonna happen trust me.
February 16, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Groundworking: Even If the Habs get Hossa they won’t be resigning him in the off season. No need to trade Hamrlik, and Hossa has never shown up in the playoffs.
February 16, 2008 at 10:32 pm
How do you know who will sign and when ?
February 16, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Price is unbelievable!lol We would have lossed that If Price wasn’t there.
February 17, 2008 at 5:39 pm
C’est pas aussi pire que Don Cherry en tout cas…
February 17, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Wow you guys are tripping a bit a think…whats rasist in that comment? I really don`t get it ????? help me with that …
February 18, 2008 at 10:37 am
Jaker1 – I totally agree with you. Morons comes in all shapes and colors and can speak any given language. I am French Canadian living in Ontario and do not see the racism there. Stupidity, vulgarity, yes, but racism, no. You have to understand that the French Canadian society, whether it wants it or not, is heavily influenced with English-Canada/USA culture. For those French Canadians who do not know better, the ”f”word is a cool addition to their English vocabulary, not at all offense. When I hear the ”f”word, I don’t even twitch. It means nothing to me like the ”T” word in French. You have to be in someone’s head to declare something of that sort is racism.
Anyways, 110% is a broadcast I could never listen to for more then 2 minutes. Nobody is respectful enough to listen to any of the other panelists. The Broadcaster, TQS, is on the verge of bankruptcy. That certainly does not mean that the French Canadian society supports them a whole lot, you’ll agree, if you’ve got enough good faith. Enough with the racism claims already.
After seeing Sunday’s game, I grew more and more convinced we Need Ryder for the playoffs. If Ryder gets traded now, getting out of his slump, we will definitely be robbed on the short term. Hossa is too expensive, and not good for the team on the long run. Smolinski never understood what his role was in that team, and neither did Dandenault. If they have any value on the market, I say trade them and get a big solid forward that can stand the heat in front of the opponents net (and stay there!). We have most of what it takes to go far, Goaltending is far from being a problem in Montreal. Defense is good with O’Byrne slowly taking the much needed experience, he’ll soon be as useful as Komo. The Defense scores enough goals that One dangerous offensive line is way enough to go far, with sporadic goals from the other lines.
My two cents.
Maxime: Don Cherry est un twit, j’en conviens. Mais des twits, il y en a partout…..Don Cherry est même pas raciste, à mon avis. juste maladroit. Les racistes ne font pas d’exceptions. Don Cherry a toujours beaucoup apprécié LeCavalier à ce que je sache…
Sorry for the long post.
February 18, 2008 at 5:08 pm
WOW, this is not a racist case at all. Kostopoulos aint worth all that talks !
His name should be Kosto Fu**in Poulos, Because he aint doin’ nothin’ to help the team. He is our Tucker or Avery… but doesnt have 1/10 of their talent !
February 18, 2008 at 5:45 pm
If Quebec seperated, that would be the stupidest move ever. I think for hockey alone, let alone no one else in Canada would ever want anything to do with us, our real estate valus would fall through the floor (everything ive worked for), the jobless rate would be about 50% and my sacred montreal canadiens and their legacy would be over. the new team, the montreal quebecers which would eventually lose its franchise because no one would be a fan anymore.
thanks
February 20, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Wow im stroke by so much hidden feelings from our fellows anglo-Montrealers, someone said “if you would be from the city you would recognize the tone”… that is completly crazy, ther never was any statements angainst canadian players in the Quebec medias, it’s always about Europeans, but i haven’t heard about it since a year. Guys calm down please ther’s absolutly nothing racist about it, it’s just another beliefs from the english community that portraits Quebecers as ignorant racist wich is proven to be an argument to discerdits the independance movement.
Guys calm down your seeing things where ther is nothing, saying “*******” while speaking french doesnt have the same meaning than when you use it, it’s using a foreign language word for us it’s only funny.
Remember what the english medias did with Brisebois because he said “i’m happy to have signed here in my province”…
March 19, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Are you guys crazy !?!? Where is the racism in what he said? He sure is dumb, but those implying that the “tone” he used was derogatory? Are you insane? It’s just a way of calling him talentless, that’s all. I see french-canadians bashing Latendresse and Brisebois all the time, why is bashing Kostopoulos a racist crime? PJ Stock is often insulting Latendresse, is this racism, or he just knows enough about hockey to see that he is slow?
Don Cherry, the hockey god of western Canada, says things 10 times worse about french and european players, and I don’t see the commotion…
Beaudry is just an idiot, dont make this a international crisis..chill a bit…
March 20, 2008 at 3:38 am
You guys are going nuts for absolutely nothing, there was nothing racist in what he said. He just said Kosto ******* Poulos. Why is it racist? … I don’t get it.
April 25, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Michel Beaudry is a stupid guy and most of the french fans of hockey hate this guy. I am sorry about a stupid racist like im.
Go Habs GO
April 25, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Whaddya think Beaudry has to say about Kosto@#%lous scoring the OT winner last night
December 4, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Hi guys. I just wanted to say that this has absolutely nothing to do with racism. By the way, Kostopoulos isn’t English, he is Greek. I know I’m very late (hahaha!) but I hate when people see racism everywhere. Michel said that only because of Tom’s play at that time. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with racism.