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- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
- stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
- goalie : Markov for Beauchemin - an injury prone d-man for an ;old timer'd-man. Beauchemin is NOT what the Habs need in my opinion. He is a HUGE defensive liability.
- goalie : Stuo 11 I'd make that trade with Oilers fast BUT I doubt the Oilers will make that. Two marginal d-men at the best for a switch of first round picks - not a chance .
- stuo11 : markov for beachemin?
- stuo11 : let moen go
- stuo11 : maybe try and get steve begin back
- stuo11 : we wouldve kicked out all other teams but pens, sens,
- stuo11 : pens have alot of forwaRDS same with us but we have better goaltending
- stuo11 : theres styles of play goalie. Sens played us good, but lost games to southeast teams florida and tampa and get crushed by leafs EVERYTIME. sens and leafsd cant beat bruins but we do frequently
- stuo11 : Diaz weber and our 1st for their first edm
- goalie : SEns beat us 4 games to 1. Pens had last night's game under their control. What does that mean if we were up vs the Pens in a series. I think the Habs have a way to go before we're competing for Lord Stanley's Cup!
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February 14, 2008 at 5:42 pm
this jerk better lose his job, but this is quebec where making fun of english players will likely land you a promotion…
February 14, 2008 at 6:01 pm
absolutely disgusting! that racist piece of garbage should be chasticized and never be allowed on any tv station again. It’s not just making fun of an english person. It’s racist, and vulgar. AND WE WONDER WHY PLAYERS DON’T WANT TO PLAY HERE? As a Montrealer, I’m totally embarrassed and revolted bt these remarks.
February 14, 2008 at 6:35 pm
any bets, nothing happens?
February 14, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Agreed HJ. This is DISGUSTING
February 14, 2008 at 7:57 pm
sorry guys i speak only english, can somebody tell me what that POS said?
February 14, 2008 at 8:16 pm
I agree. In Quebec, the type of flagrant intolerance and insensitivity displayed by Beaudry will likely turn him into a province wide hero. I’m embarrassed to be a Quebecer. Nothing will happen to this guy. If anything, he’ll likely get more air time and be used by the Parti Quebecois to get more votes. Burns me up. It sickens me to see these people constantly get away with their racism.
February 14, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Where is the link to the item … I cannot find it
February 14, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Apparently, some people don’t mind going on tv and showing the world how ignorant they are. The station should just announce that they are not going to have him on anymore and let the moron slip back into the outhouse that is his life.
The quicker this passes, the less attention he gets, the less it smells up what is promising to be a great playoff run for our Habs.
February 14, 2008 at 11:26 pm
leafs are now officially in last place.
February 14, 2008 at 11:26 pm
just click play
February 14, 2008 at 11:29 pm
YES
February 15, 2008 at 12:19 am
You know Michel Beaudry ,you sound like a fU2king Goof in french and English and that’s not easy to do!
February 15, 2008 at 1:40 am
OMG I can’t stand that show… I had to promise my wife I would stop watching it… I just ended up yelling at the TV… but that clip is the worst I heard in a while!
February 15, 2008 at 2:08 am
110% apologized for the comments… check out the link.
February 15, 2008 at 2:17 am
Ya, and where is Beaudry? Can’t speak for himself?
February 15, 2008 at 2:45 am
That’s the kind of idiot that runs this stupid province..
Put him on the list.. We;ll get to them one day
February 15, 2008 at 3:24 am
I can speak French, but the Quebec accent sinks me. Where’s the racist part? Did I miss an expression or a turn of phrase? Or is just the way he said Kostopolous’ name? I couldn’t understand a few turns of phrase.
Anti-minority sentiments are associated with all nationalist movements in the world. Alberta separatists, Quebec separatists, Flemish separatists (Vlaams Bloc), Walloon separatists (National Front), Northern Italian separatists (Lega Nord); Austrian (Freedom Party), French (Front Nationale), German (Republikaner + NPD), British (Brit National Party), Norwegian (Progress Party), Swiss (People’s Party), Danish (Danish Peoples Party), Finnish (True Finns), Australian (One Nation), New Zealand (New Zealand First), Greek (Hellenic Front), Polish (Nazis, basically), Slovakia (Slovak National Party, also Nazis), Russian (Nazis again) blah blah blah. Quebec is not alone in this. Many nationalists in Quebec are quite tolerant, but these movements always attract the crackers too. I mean, even the Americans were praising a guy who ripped down a Mexican flag from a store owner’s window–don’t fly that flag in this country, he said.
These comments stand out as being so repulsive because we are Canadians. And we are lucky to be! In Switzerland, the political party that won the last election ran with an election add that had three white sheep kicking a black sheep off the Swiss flag, with the slogan: “For Greater Security”. They got 35% of the vote! And in another campaign, they had a campaign add posted all over the country that had a bunch of brown hands reaching into a barrell of swiss passports! In Denmark, an important party had a poster with a young man, dark complexion, pointing a gun at you. The slogan read: “The Threat is a Foreign One”.
We don’t know how good we have it here. Good for you HB for posting this! Canada, even in Quebec, is still more tolerant than just about any other country in the world–with perhaps the sole exception of Sweden.
February 15, 2008 at 4:08 am
It’s the tone of Kostofuckinopolis .. If your from Montreal you recognize the
tone right away…. You know the old ethnic vote ****
It’s the Begin’s a forechecker that made me laff..
.. He’s voting for this guy as Captain
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c291/HABSsolutly/NAKED%20hockey%20players/OHMYFUCKINGGODGUILLAUME.jpg
February 15, 2008 at 8:25 am
Quite honestly, leave these extremists alone. They exist and so let them be. If shows are willing to give these people a voice then expect this sort of information. Mind you of the clip, is this common french because I didn’t get the whole gist and if these remarks disturbed people then turn it off. Then go on another show to voice your opinion. I hardly think that this forum should be the medium.
Now which Habs team is gonna finish the remainder of the season…still no information on a trade.
February 15, 2008 at 9:54 am
Kosto “f@ckin” polous. Are you kidding me? How someone can get away with something like this is unreal. I bet if someone on the show said Latalentless or la”f@ckin”piere all of quebec would be all up in arms.
February 15, 2008 at 11:08 am
This guy even looks like a tool…..lets get up for Philly guys. Must **** happen every year that affects this team. Souray and Kovy’s spat last year, apparently the Rivet trade sent Koivu into a shell for a while…now this ****.
The guy’s a jackass…this is a bad time for something to whip through the dressing room again, and hopefully it doesn’t. We’re trying to concentrate and win hockey games here. Let the good people of Quebec handle this idiot and protect our Habs. Winning games is number 1 here….anyone disagree?
This should not affect our boys play…we’re acually playing for something this year…and playing damn well. Keep the focus on what happens on the ice….GO HABS GO !!!
February 15, 2008 at 11:42 am
Sam you are not implying that we should have left the German Nazi party alone are you? Listen and listen good,the planet is getting smaller every day through improved transportation methods ,which in turn makes countries more or less neighbourhoods.Now,If you are suggesting that under these circumstances we should let these bully’s of the hook and threaten other people’s children and communities over nonsense, as a Canadian will always disagree!
February 15, 2008 at 12:11 pm
The apology was such a joke. Typical canned response the network forced the moderator to make. Where is Beaudry? Refused to apologize I’m sure.
He knew exactly what he was saying. Listen to the clip again, and to the cackling neandertal laughter from all the others. I think Bergeron nearly crapped in his depends. They were having a great time.
February 15, 2008 at 12:40 pm
does anyone know the email address for this piece of ****? i’d like to give him a piece of my mind. We should boycott in front of that tv station.
February 15, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Just for your information, Michel Beaudry is not rascist. When he says Kosto”*******”poulo, he just mean that the number 6 is not a important player, by that a mean that he is just a third or fouth liner. If u steel think its racism, wheel ur just stupid paranoiac.
By the way Michel Beaudry is just a stupid ”asbeen” but definitly not racism
If u what to talk about a real racist let talk about Don Cherry who is a heros on the rock. So who are racism Quebec or the Rock think about it.
February 15, 2008 at 1:42 pm
I Don’t think it’s such a big deal. Have you heard Don Cherry?
February 15, 2008 at 2:16 pm
how do you know what he is! Are you him? you can’t get in his head, and if you don’t think he’s a racist, then UOU’RE A RACIST! You disgust me too!
February 15, 2008 at 2:42 pm
It is very direspectful to pronouce anybody’s name in that manner, was it based on race ? I cant say for sure, but it would not suprise me to find out that another french canadian was a rasicst after all, I live in Montreal and my family name is O’Reilly , I have lived with the kind of comments we heard all the time here in Quebec , its part of the bigger problem Quebec has.
February 15, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Nothing particularly new here, but the speculation seems to be heating up. I wonder what the asking price would be? They want a player who can benefit them right away, plus youth, plus picks. My hunch is that Anaheim is in a better position than Montreal. Anaheim can trade two first round picks for next year, including a likely top 5 pick. I think the price for Montreal would be steep.
The only advantage Montreal might have is the willingness to trade and assume risk. Michael Ryder, a first round pick, and Halak, unconditionally. There’s no question the Thrashers are looking at Ryder. Ryder was put in the game instead of Kostopolous when the Atlanta scout was there, and taken out again for the game that he wasn’t there.
Anaheim probably won’t give up a player who can help right away, plus their top five pick for next year, unless they attach a condition about Hossa signing with the team at year’s end.
I don’t know what I’d do if I were Gaigney. One disadvantage is that it’s all within the same conference. I wouldn’t give up Higgins, Koivu or Latendresse, but we’ll see what happens…
Here’s the post today from the Fourth Period:
“With the trade deadline approaching, Thrashers winger Marian Hossa doesn’t believe he’ll have a new contract before Feb. 26, reports the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
“The reality is that we’re a couple days before the trade deadline,” Hossa told the paper. “What could change, basically? We have so many choices. There are two choices. I’m going to stay here or I won’t. Two choices. It’s pretty simple. We’ll see what’s going to happen in the next few days. The agent is talking with [Thrashers GM] Don [Waddell], but still we couldn’t get the agreement.”
Hossa indicated that it’s “very slim” for him to ink a new deal before the deadline, furthering speculation that the team will trade him in the next few days.
The Montreal Canadiens are among the teams very interested in Hossa. Waddell and his top scouts have been spotted at recent Habs’ games.”
February 15, 2008 at 2:49 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVS5AgwxvCA
February 15, 2008 at 2:52 pm
What about Hamrlik? Where’s he been lately? Out with the flu for two weeks? Maybe. But maybe they’re trying to ensure that he stays healthy before the trade deadline?
February 15, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Hamrlik is not gonna be traded we need him here
February 15, 2008 at 3:42 pm
I agree.
February 15, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Vous êtes tous un bande de stupit paranoiac.
Se blog est une propagante raciste envers le peuple Québécois.
L’hoistoire se répette toujours, l’hypocrisie anglo-saxon me pu au nez. Faite le gros drame avec une rien mais quand c’est votre connard de héro Don Cherry qui agit comme une vrai pute raciste tout est ok pour vous.
Bande de nazi avec les nègre blanc d’amérique que sont les Québécois.
En passant si vous connaissiez votre histoire vous seriez qu’un CANADIEN ne peux pas parler anglais. Le nom Canadien a été attribué à mes ancêtre part les colon Anglais de la nouvelle-angleterre. Donc tout les anglais du mon pays le CANADA ne sont que des demi-britannique.
February 15, 2008 at 4:44 pm
You know what when people try to justify a negative comment by saying Don Cherry says negative things does not make it right. A person making derogatory remarks wheather in French or English is wrong. When Cherry says stupid things he gets more publicity the same thing everyone on this blog is doing for this french what ever he is. I do not speak french but poor remarks in any language is wrong.This is supposed to be a hockey sight and this is my only comment on this . Back to the subject,I hope Gainey does not take a rental in Hossa. If he must go after him,get him under contract or can anyone say Ryan Smyth to New York Islanders for major prospects then say goodbye after one round of playoff hockey. Be smart Bob.
February 15, 2008 at 4:56 pm
I never said Don Cherry was right, and I dont see people around here talking as if Don Cherry was our hero… maybe you just dont like to beleive that alot of french speaking people in the province of Quebec because it is not a country, are zenophobic and racist , we all know that they are .
February 15, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Update from Rotoworld:February 15, Fri
Alexei Kovalev may miss Saturday’s game against the Philadelphia Flyers.
Fantasy Impact
Kovalev didn’t participate in practice because of a sore right ankle. He suffered the injury during Wednesday’s game, but he played through it. Stay tuned.
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February 15, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Entre toi et moi Don”cherry”Carnage il y a des raciste partout et dans toutes les nations. Cependant comment des anglophone peuvent voir la subtilitée des propos français de Michel”asbeen”Beaudry. Laisse moi te dire que le mot ”*******” a été utilisé non pas comme marque de racisme mais belle et bien comme interjection. Désolé pour vous mais la langue français est beaucoup plus complete que l’anglais donc comment pourrais-je en vouloir à des ignorants.
Deplus laisse moi te dire que j’ai vécu partout au CANADA et avec preuve à l’appuis il y a beaucoup plus de racisme on the ROCK qu’au Québec.
Dans tes dents ….. !!!!!!!!!!!!
February 15, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Well I am a Quebecer born and raised, and I’m also anglophone. I encounter that kind of racist bullsh*t all the time from certain francophones, mostly those of lower class upbringing. I feel like saying to all those nationalist ******** – I belong here just as much as you do, regardless of my grammar or verb conjugation, at least I’ll make an effort!
February 15, 2008 at 6:06 pm
I don’t know about that.. I’m a francophone and I like Don Cherry..
I mean someone actually posted.the word. anglo-saxon and a phrase coined by
Pierre Vallières..
What century you living in dumbass..
February 15, 2008 at 6:16 pm
doesn’t it irk you pleople to have someone come on here, and defend that *******. If you defend him, then you’re just as bad as him. And you know, french canadians know how to speak english, but they refuse. Man how I hate Quebec and all their bigots, especially when it comes to language.
Just like what the Fu#@#ken language police did yesterday to McKibbons pub, telling them to take down all their english signs from INSIDE THE BAR. and what’s worse, they told them, that too much english is being spoken inside. Can you believe that? English people get treated like 2nd class citizens, and don’t exist. well the rest of Canada and the world know how utterly stupid and racist french canadians are.
February 15, 2008 at 6:18 pm
hey did you just post HJ?
February 15, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Hey Jo je parle francais , mes enfants parles francais but you know what , no one here cares about Don Cherry … you are just another one of those I mentioned in my post. your zenophobic dude , and I dont need to insult an entire people for the likes og you , you are just a part of the problem a small part, there are many french speaking people that are not like you, thats why you never win anything your the minority :0)
February 15, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Dude
It’s some .. not all.. This isn’t a French- English thing..
And we shouldn’t make it that.. Because it’s stooping to the idiot’s level.
This is an Idiot – non-idiot question.
February 15, 2008 at 9:12 pm
I aggree its only a small part of the french speaking people that are the problem as I stated thats why they never win anything LOLOLOLOL
Ok back to Hockey !!!!!
February 16, 2008 at 12:27 am
this whole discussion on French vs English, racist or whatever is pointless…who cares, we’re all people some have weird opinions (extremes) and the ones that go against the norm usually are trying to get attention of some sort. I don’t think the general public should give these folks time of day. Let them spew this **** but on someone else’s time, not mine. So I choose to ignore it and move on.
Anyone hear of any trade talks? It’s going to be painful when other teams position them stronger and the Habs still are lacking a 1st line centre or power forward. A blockbuster trade is inevitable but with who….San Jose, Calgary, Tampa Bay….come on, we need to rid ourselves of Ryder, Koivu, Smolinski, Brisebois, Jalak as a package and some draft picks…package it any way to get it done. Huet might have to go to seal the deal. Probably with Tampa Bay. The next 4 or 5 games should be good that’s if the right team shows up. This should give the Habs the cushion they need. That means production from some of the younger members is required…Namely Higgins, Kostitsyn’s, Latendresse and Lapierre (if he’s still up). Come on! work together and finish those darned chances…!!!
February 16, 2008 at 10:39 am
Yeah makes sence we need to get rid off so that means the other teams need to take them because they owe us big time ! If those players need to gotton rid off , wth would any team want to take them?
You would make a great GM ….
February 16, 2008 at 11:22 am
Hey what do you think of this trade guys? ryder huet and 3rd round draft pick for St.louis or Richards!(and sadly and koivu and if striet were to leave…him as well for maybe Lecavlier)
February 16, 2008 at 11:26 am
Montreal would never go after Richards 7.8 Million salary. Bob Gainey is too smart for that. Maybe leafs. Fletcher might though.
February 16, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Remember Ryder and Huet are UFA’a this summer, no way Tampa’s parting with anything we want for guys they could lose right away. No more low ball offers, let’s hear something realistic.