Montreal Canadiens 2007 Entry Draft
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Who will the Canadiens be picking up this Friday at the draft? A future star? …Or stars? Or future duds? Late round sleeper picks? Or an average crop of average players?
Will the Canadiens go with local boy Angelo Esposito who almost everyone is pegging them to take? Will he even be available? Will the Canadiens trade up? Trade down?
McGuire Says:
Montreal is upset about McDonagh coming off the board. That being said, Montreal is dying for a local person to stimulate the fans and the team. The Canadiens are not going to miss this time like they did by passing on Denis Savard years ago. Esposito has some maturing to do, but the Habs think he can do it. Cuthbert scooped me on Couture, and MacLean took McDonagh, so Esposito is next.Bob Gainey shocked everyone by picking Carey Price. Nobody saw it coming and there was lots of doubt and negativity surrounding it at the time. Fast forward 2 years and it appears to be a pretty smart move and potentially a brilliant one.
So…what’s in store for the Canadiens at this draft?
- Senet1 : It will be interesting to see how Sutter does because to me the Oilers are not his kind of team, but then again neither were the Flames.
- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
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June 24, 2007 at 11:10 pm
Well the draft came and went and in three years everyone will marvel at Gaineys selections. I don’t know enough about these two American defensmen two even make a comment on them but look what Gainey’s track record at the draft. The Carey Price pick could prove to be unbelievable. The NHL CBA and along with revenue sharing and salary cap has taken away the opportunity for clubs in big markets to go buy a team of allstars and walk into the cup finals. It’s no longer a case of opening the vault the emphasis now is on getting the best bang for the buck. Obviously no one knows Gainey’d ultimite plan except for Bob Gainey, but lets all think back to his Dallas Stars days. He walked in with a plan, exicuted it, and yes it took a little time but the results speak for themselves. Even being a life long Habs fan I still have to be realistic… the world will not turn upside down and we will not win the cup next year. Having said that I do believe the ground work Gainey has already laid spotting up and coming talent as well as his respect in the game of hockey will enable him to sign one or two big free agents immediatly so he can dump so dead wood and compete for a cup in the next three years.
June 25, 2007 at 12:49 am
I loved the Habs picks. I am glad that they didn’t go after Espo. He is too small and I am a little tired of the Habs have players that are too small and don’t go into the corners. They have lots of guys in the minors with offensive skill and they have guys on the current team that are already scoring. Now just need to build around these guys. Ryan McDonagh was blowing all the GM’s away with his interviews and his test at the combines. There is something to say about a guy like that, let alone a defenceman. The Habs are setting themselves up for a bright future. Bob Gainey is one of the smartest people in hockey. Hey, at least we have draft picks to select new young talent to build around. Not like the Leafs. Pacioretty is another good pick. The USHL is becoming a top league in North America and is tough to score in. This kid had 63 points in 60 games. Pretty good for a guy who had a bad first half of the season.
We have some talent that will come up this year and we have some money to get a top 4 defenceman and a top forward. Next season is gonna be a great year. IN BOB WE TRUST.
June 25, 2007 at 8:20 am
The habs use to get all the rgihts to anyone french, hence why they had success with french players over the years. I’m not disputing french Canadians overall maybe more valuable then these Russians.
That wasn’t my point. You draft the best player regardless of his primary language. I don’t believe Quebecers deserve a french superstar because hes french. He’s there to play hockey. So i’ll take a superstar of french or english. I just want a superstar period.
The draft by Gainey this year was outstanding. McDonagh is a stud. Esposito is Daigle all over again. There’s reasons the 1st 19 teams took a pass.
We need a nunber 1 centre we can’t get through the draft, Marleau or Briere. Lets go Bob. The rest we can move through our own system.
June 25, 2007 at 10:23 am
“I don’t believe Quebecrs deserve a french superstar because he is french”. HADS4EVER,YOU DON’T HAVE A VERY GOOD BUSSNESS MIND,EH!! THAT IS THE MOST REDICULOUS STATEMENT I’VE HEARD IN A LONG TIME,WOWZERS,lol!!!!
June 25, 2007 at 12:55 pm
We dont need someone just because he is french, we need someone who is good. I think we will be fine, I like the way the team is starting to take shape, I am not saying we should not have french canadian players, I am saying we need to take the best players at the time, and not make any choices that involve anything except hockey…
June 25, 2007 at 5:37 pm
These superstars (LeCavalier, etc…) need to want to play here…
June 25, 2007 at 8:41 pm
Actually, I remember just after the habs won the cup, heck, we had some pretty good drafts, and management made the mistake of believing the rookies could dig them outta some pretty old very expensive contracts that were not panning out…hmmmm….hey, we may not have won a cup but we sure as heck celebrated like we did when we were given Gainey and Carbo….
Then the mistakes of getting…Richer….Stevenson….the same rookie coach mistakes of juggling lines…getting all star rookie minor league winner goalies….tall skinny defense….oh the horror! We are repeating the middle nineties all over again! Complete with praise for drafting what looks like winners and movers and shakers…heck we even drafted the Mr.Hockey of Minnesota in those years too!
What the Habs management did not do was bring good veterans in, that is in the few years after the cup…right up to now. We have had great rookies! They have gone on to other teams with cups! Yet, we didn’t get any cups with them!
I still say we can salvage this, this was a great draft year! Probably one of the best the habs have had in a decade! Way to Go Crazy Bob! You have renewed my faith in the future.
For now the present still doesn’t look too promising, complete with not finding a defenseman to protect Price properly. But I too can’t wait to see both Subban and Price and Petrecky! If we can keep Grabby, Laps, Lats and heck Subban and Milroy giving them heck, we can even see the cup again! Yes!
All we need is someone like Nedermeyer, maybe he’d be willing to guide our young rookies to a cup here and retire! Wouldn’t that be great?
June 25, 2007 at 9:33 pm
I have heard a few of you mention Petrecki…..he was not drafted by the Habs folks!! Would have been nice if he was but you need to get your facts straight before talkin it up!!! Petrecki was taken by the Sharks!!
I still think that too many denfenceman were drafted…we needed a big forward like Gillies. I don’t know…..I just hope…………………………
June 25, 2007 at 9:35 pm
Oh just a niedermayer, that sounds simple enough!
June 25, 2007 at 9:37 pm
Oh and by the way….Joshtm….Nedermeyer??????Learn how to spell would ya!! Get a grip goomba! If he doesn’t retire this year he will remain with the Ducks.
Where in the hell do you come up with this s-h-i-t???
Yikes!
June 26, 2007 at 12:23 am
Wow, MadmanPaddy….you really know what you are talkin about man!!! You have some very good points. I’m new to this forum but with people like you on here…I’ll keep coming back 4sur!!
I think the canadiens should go after Tanguay. He would be great with Montreal. I think this draft was a boom man! Good stuff all around!
Everyone on this site needs to leave joshtm alone. He has some valid points himself.
I love life dudes and I love my MONTREAL CANADIENS!!! ROCK ON HABYDUDAS!!
June 26, 2007 at 10:10 am
Not sure what the crying is about not having French Superstar. The reason we do not have a LeCavalier, Crosby, Tanguay, Staal BLa Bla ect.. is that we were not bottom dwellers when these guys were in the draft. These guys were top draft picks in their respected time and we had no chance of getting them. It is as simple as that. When we had our chance to get a superstar with a top pick BOB chose Price. Time will tell but he’s living up to his expectations so far. Obviously, Gainey belives in him by building a top notch D around him in this years draft and last as well. Superstars become the face of their respective organizations and given long expensive contracts to stay with their clubs. I think the New NHL will allow more and more of these guys to be freed up and truely believe we’ll see a LeCavalier type player, if we do not tie up too much money in the mean-time, will become available.
THE BEST PLAYER AT THE GIVEN TIME FOR THE NEEDS OF THE “TEAM” is key to drafting. Although Cherepanov sort of got a raw deal because of comrads actions in the past and Montreal was not going after a Offensive player with their first pick anyway, we got what we needed a future top D-man.
As for stars this years cup winners and runner-ups had a few that were not Quebecois; Selanne, McDonald, Neidemayer(s), Pronger, Penner, Perry, Heatly, Spezza, Alfredson, Fisher, BLa BLa Bla. Point is it takes a mix of players, even if it would be nice to have a local kid in which to identify. we have a good mix and a influx of prospects… There is no need to add more assets that we have an excess in the system. Corey Locke, D’Agostini, Pleckanic, Koivu, all seemed to have the same characteristics as an Esposito and would have been overlap in the organization which probably would have left him on the sidelines especially in the Habs Defensive minded stlye and coaching staff.
June 26, 2007 at 2:36 pm
The Habs need to be active this summer in the free agent market otherwise Koivu will not be here after the season. Gainey said he was going to be active last summer and wasn’t. He went after Samsonov but that was only because he was trying to make it up to us because he did not make any significant moves and he thought Samsonov would thrive here. He was the biggest bust of all-time and I hope Samso goes and ***** himself because he is a piece of ****!! I hate that loser. Gainey needs to make it up to us otherwise I will be pissed off as will most other Habs fans. I want action this summer. Lates,
Ziman
June 26, 2007 at 9:58 pm
I’m sorry but I got to say this . The Montreal Canadiens play in the Provence of Quebec ;a French province in a Canadian Confederation . Now as far as the Habs go the last French Superstar was Patrick Roy,a long time ago!! Only bone-heads can’t recognize the importance of a Francophone Hockey hero, whether front office or Anglophone fan!Please don’t make me have to spell it out for you all,cause its a NO BRAINER !!!jUST THINK OF ALL THE GREAT FRENCH HOCKEY PLAYERS THAT HAVE NOT PLAYED FOR THE hABS .When the Nordics were in Quebec city it wasn’t an issue ,but that also was a long time ago .Hockey is a business and our team has suffered poor decision making since 1993 and when I see a simple problem not being addressed it gives me reason for great concern !!!! Will somebody get ******* real for **** sakes!!!!!
June 26, 2007 at 10:22 pm
An interesting point of view my good friend Xhabsfan!! I love your passion!
Hey all…take heed….I just was looking over the Habs draft history on their site and guess what I found out……..since 1990 Montreal has drafted 22 USHL players(not including this year)and guess how many have actually made it to the NHL???? Come on, come on, you can do it………ready……..2!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes….I said 2…Craig Conroy and Craig Darby from 1990! OH OH! Not a very good ratio here!!! OH OH!!!
I am not so confident in our draft picks the past 2 years now!!! OH OH!!
I guess we can always hope this is a trend that ends sooner rather than later!
phew……I just don’t know what to think.
P.S.
Bob has stated publicly that Souray is his top priority…he wants him signed……I like Souray but not his league worst -28 last year, 64 points or not!….rumour is Souray wants Markov money and I thinks he gets it…too bad when we could go after Scott Hannan who was a +1 with 24 pts. Not glamourous but solid anyhow!
Hannan is 6’1 225lbs and is only 28!! I’m drooling. He would be an awsome addition to the blueline. Better than Souray.
Listen BOB….use that head of yours that won you all those cups and awards over your career!!!
Go Les habitants!!!!!
June 27, 2007 at 5:34 pm
hey Madmanpaddy do Komisarek and Higgins count?
June 29, 2007 at 1:20 pm
xhabsfan I don’t give a **** what you think the habs deserve because they ply in Quebec a french province. If the best player is English you take him, simple as. Blow it out your ***, go cheer for the nordiques if you want a bunch of french Canadians, oh wait, that franchise went down the toilet because of ridiculous thinking you guys have. Don’t bring that garbage to the habs plz, you ruined your franchise, leave us alone. Rejean Houle and past french regimes almost buried this franchise. I’ll stick with my tough engish canadians rather then you french visor wearing pansies.
June 29, 2007 at 7:39 pm
It’s easy to see what Gainey’s thinking. in goal Carey Price,on D Emelin and Komisarek,up front,Chipchura,Latendresse and CRISTOPHER HIGGINS! The habs are starting in Goal(already done-Price,Halak,Dannis etc.) Going defence -David Fischer, Emelin, Komisarek etc. and then going forward(HIGGINS,Latendresse,Chipchura etc. they have the 2nd Best future in the league(I think 1st) don’t make fun of Gainey.) If you’re mad about the habs not in playoffs 07, don’t blame Gainey, Kovalev got 47 points, Samsonov 26!!! Kovalev should get at least 60 PTS and samsonov-at least 55. so theirs 50 PTS. I thick 50 more goals for montreal would have been a playoff appearence.
June 30, 2007 at 12:32 am
LJ55………..I said USHL…..Higgins and Komisarek were University drafts you #$%!@ MORON!!! Know your facts before you challenge someone you #@!$% idiot!!
It’s posts like yours that really piss everyone off!!!
Know what you are talking about or shut the hell up!