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- muller93 : MB is forced to go out and get a big D-man. Missing Emelin for almost half the season is the last thing we needed to hear. Now going out and getting a big D-man is a MUST!!!
- muller93 : Now for the Fu**en Bruins who have no business even being in the second round are going to get a nice rest. Yes the same goons who took out one of best D-man for 6 more months. There is NO Fu**en justice. Just venting--Ok i feel better now.
- muller93 : So pissed to see the Rangers lay down and play like total crap. How did the Rangers beat the Caps? This team is playing with no heart--a must win and can only muster 23 shots...PATHETIC !!!
- muller93 : Senet I did see Galchenyuks goal--Made a great move for the game winner. You can see the kid has so much confidence.
- goalie : If Rangers get swept I wonder if Tortorella will get his walking papers? Or Glen Sather? They have tons of 'talent' but zero wins in this series.
- goalie : It's really too bad we lost to the Sens as we would have played the Rangers and the way NYR are playing we would have beat them too. If only. If only!
- Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
- stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
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February 20, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I’ve spent most of my morning thus far trying to find real answers in the mountains of garbage that are being heaped on the Canadiens since last night. The truth will come out eventually, and if any of the players have done something wrong then so be it. My only thought here is this: I’m not so far removed from my “young days” that I don’t remember some crazy things happening around me. I’ve been present at a shooting, I’ve been around drugs and “gangsters”. People that I went to highschool with, and could easily be connected to have gone to prison for reprehensible crimes. I’ve spent enough time in bars to know that organized crime is rampant, and that regardless of who you are – trouble can and will find you. I don’t know the Kostitsyns, but I do know a whole lot of good people that have been drawn into bad circumstances because of poor choices (either made themselves or by associates). There literally is not enough information to make an informed opinion about this latest story from La Presse. I only hope that if the Kostitsyn bros have been caught up in a mess like so many other people I’ve known, that the Habs organization supports them.
February 20, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Re: actual hockey matters.
I’ll admit I do scour the rumor boards for the latest info on possible trades. Even though only 1 in 20 ever seems to hit the nail on the head, there have been mounting rumors from many sources that MON-TAMPA Vinny talks are very close to an actual deal. The crazyest thing I’ve heard is that the pieces rumored to be leaving are Higgins, Gorges and Subban. I think there would probably need to be one more piece to make this possible for money, but if this is the case I sincerely hope that Gainey isn’t sitting on his hands for this one. Only time will tell if the recent developments surrounding the Kostitsyns, Kovalev and Hamrlik have affected anything.
February 20, 2009 at 4:17 pm
I was thinking the other day that the Canadiens may be willing to offer Higgins, Gorges, S. Kostitsyn and…wait for it…Markov. I believe Tampa had demanded Markov.
February 20, 2009 at 4:29 pm
It seems unlikely that Gainey would give up 3 defensemen, which is why when I saw the list that Gainey mentioned in the Globe and Mail article (Higgins, Gorges and Subban) it seemed weird unless Tampa was going to send one back our way. Tampa IS banged up on defense right now as I’m pretty sure both Mezaros and Ranger are out with shoulder injuries requiring surgery, but I don’t think that Montreal’s defensive depth could withstand losing 3 potential impact defensemen. That being said, I don’t know there is a reasonable deal out there that I wouldn’t make for Lecavalier. The only player I really want them to hang on to is Andrei because I think him and Lecavalier together would be incredible. If I’m Gainey I make the deal and then focus on the free agents for next season.
February 20, 2009 at 5:30 pm
As I’ve stated, I would fully support the parting of Markov and several others to bring back in return the centreman that this team desperately needs. After all, this current team isn’t going to win anything anyway, so might as well begin shaping a championship team. Acquiring Lecavalier alone would be something worthy of a centennial season celebration.
February 20, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Good point, Joseph. The return of the prodigal son. I agree. Lecavalier and no cup is better than no Lecavalier and not cup, which is the direction that this team is absolutely 100% on this year.
In NHL09 I trade Lang and a first round pick for Lecavalier…
February 20, 2009 at 6:56 pm
haha.. I somehow worked Lecavalier, Nash and Ed Jovonovski into the lineup without doing too much damage. Of course, in my season Price’s save percentage is higher than .750.
February 20, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Ahh, NHL09. If only those ridiculous trades were somehow doable in reality.
But yes. Whatever it takes to get Lecavalier. We can then reminisce how the Habs brought Vinnie home in 2009, their centennial year. And of course we couldn’t necessarily count them out this season if Gainey manages it with minimal damage.
February 20, 2009 at 8:05 pm
If in fact those players were the ones who were traded (Markov, Higgins, Gorges, Subban + draft picks – I’m assuming) our lineup would look pretty good on forward. Who wouldn’t want to see a line of Lecavalier with Andre and Kovy? The only problem would be our lack of depth on the blueline. You never know though, a deal could be made (ala the Schneider deal) to pick up another FA. At some point we would need a young defensemen to move in to fill the void cheaply as Cap problems would be upon us big time.
February 21, 2009 at 1:36 pm
While I am like the rest of you I would like to see us pick up Vinny, I hate to see your defence depleted. So we definitely would have to go out and get another defenceman. Personally I have not given up on this season. We have the team to still go far into the playoffs they just have to start playing like we know they can. That starts in the nets and goes all the way out. This team is just needs to turn the corner and start playing better hockey. We have the personel to do that and as I said earlier in the week there had to be somethng going on behind the scenes that we were not aware of and maybe it came out this week. If kovy comes back ready to play and it sounds like he is very positive and if we can pick up Vinny without totally destroying our defence the we still have a shot. Maybe not the cup but at least one or two rounds. I believe the next 10 games will tell the story.
February 21, 2009 at 2:00 pm
hmmm……habsblog.com NHL09 league?