NHL 2008 Trade Deadline
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- Avatar37 : Apparently only one offer for Carter on the low side so far, I think Montreal would be foolish not to investigate the possibility of a trade for him, and if there is low interest, the deal might be able to include moving Gomez. Gomez/Darche/Cam poli and a third round pick? Maybe not, but I'd be in serious talks with Columbus right about now.
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- Avatar37 : for him had we held on to him until now and created a bidding war. There are more buyers than sellers currently on the market and it would have been the perfect time to have traded him.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - I'm not sure how we could have obtained more for Halak. We showcased him, everyone knew he was available for trade, and in the end, we took the best offer. Any asset is only worth what a purchaser will pay for it. The Halak trade wasn't like the Cammalleri trade where you had GMs afterwards saying they didn't even know he was on the market. The Halak trade was done properly, the Cammelleri trade was a knee-jerk panic move, and while my opinion is that we could have received more
- Avatar37 : I saw the game, the Islanders first goal came from a shot that was clearly above the height of the crossbar. How is it possible for a play to go to review where they have the advantage of mulitple camera angles and the ability to pause and they STILL get the call wrong?
- goalie : I agree don't get dilusional over our three game winning streak. Changes MUST be made. I am however, glad to see the effort being put forth by the players.
- Mats Naslund : I just went to capgeek to see who the Avalanche might be dealing for a rental - and I see they have only 6 players signed for next season!!! There are a couple young D men on that squad who are RFAs who would do very nicely next season.
- Mats Naslund : One thing I know - the 3 game winning streak had better not get PG thinking about holding onto guys for a PO run. Trade them, build the value and move on to next year.
- Mats Naslund : How about Max Pac though.. 21 goals and on pace for 65 points this year. That is absolutely monster for a guy at his age/experience and especially coming after a horrific injury. Huge cornerstone moving forward. On pace for 33 goals.. could he get 35?
- Mats Naslund : Didn't get to see it either - and while I don't really care about the win, I am very glad that Gomez scored so we don't have to endure all of the negativity in the media about him for the rest of the year. He still su@ks, but at least it won't be a topic every shift he takes.
- goalie : Didn't get to see the game at all but it's great to see Pacs get a hat trick and fpor Cole to be + 3. When was the last time this team won three games in a row? Great victory -looks like they're giving 100% effort!
- Senet1 : 4-2 win habs
- Senet1 : Gomez scores, Yea!!!
- goalie : As I said yesterday it will be interesting to see what our lame ass GM gets for players he ships out. Bourque is good and he'll help us but I still think we could have gotten more for him and for Halak when he was traded.
- Avatar37 : round those picks occur (probably 3rd).
- Avatar37 : An interesting article. If we slip to the 5th or 7th draft pick, a very interesting case could be made for drafting Galchenyuk. If we wind up with the second or third pick, I'm not sure who I'd draft, because clearly Yakupov is going to be drafted first overall. Our second round pick also becomes interesting, I know I'd take Vasilevski if he were still available. It will also be interesting to see if we can turn some of our veteran players (Moen, Gill, Campoli) into draft picks, and what
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- Avatar37 : That is why PG should have waited on trading Cammalleri. Right now, there is a high demand for a top 6 forward, we could have gotten much more than Bourque in return. That isn't a knock against Bourque, but a knock against a knee-jerk reaction trade that didn't maximize our return on a top asset.
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- Avatar37 : chips fall where they may. After all, the only difference between finishing 17th and 29th is how good a pick you get in the draft.
- Avatar37 : We currently sit in 26th place in the league. We are 15 points ahead of Columbus, it's safe to bet at this point they will place last. We are, however, only 4 points ahead of Edmonton so it's still wide open as to who is going to finish second last. I still think that it's time to sit the veterans, play the youth, let them get experience, and regroup for next year. I'm not suggesting deliberately tanking like the Penguins, but give all our young players lots of playing time and let the c
- Avatar37 : goalie - If it were not for the play of Cammalleri, we would never have made it out of round 1. Cammalleri played as big a part, if not bigger, than Halak did. Sure, Halak played well, but remember the team collapsed in front of him, making his job much easier. We had lots of blocked shots and the ones that got through were typically from the outside.
- Senet1 : Goalie you are absolutely right, of course the one thing we had the two previous years that won the games that we are losing this year was our power play. If you look at say 10 games that we should have won had we had a similar power play, again we would not be having these conversations. When your PP goes from first to last in the league that is a lot of goals.How many games have we lost this year by one goal. Again poor management who did not prepare for Markov's possible absence.
- goalie : I'll put it another way.... we need more players who are willing to get their noses dirty.
- goalie : Two years ago when our goaltending stole series adn our players suddenly scored the coaches / GM believed that that was our true team . Well time has proven that was not. Though I was very glad to see the Habs knock off some very good teams we were very fortunate. And fortunate that spring was spelled HALAK!
- goalie : The wrst mistake management could possibly make I believe is to say, we played well some games and we believe the team can play to that level more often in the future. This team CANNOT adnb DOES NOT play to a high enough level. Please do not kid yourself mamngement. hat is partially why we're in the lace we are.
- goalie : Senet is correct when he says that if we had more games with a better efort this year we'd likely be in the playoffs. It has been very inconsistent effort but much more than that. We lack big, tough playing and finishing. Never mind fighting for a moment. We did not compete for the pucks nor along the boards nor in front of both nets enough this year. Thus we are in 29th. If the coaching staff doesn't see that then they shouldn't be there.
- Senet1 : Surely Molson is not going to keep him as the GM?
- Senet1 : when he knows he will be fired at the end of the season. Nothing really makes since in this whole process.
- Senet1 : I am not sue why PG has not been fired by now. They could be waiting for another GM to come available at season end, but why would you not set up a committee to manage the team in the short run until a new GM can be named. There is no since in chaning coaches because whoever the GM is he will want to name his own coach. Gainey and a committe of other executives can manage the team through to the trading deadline and onward. What motivation does PG have to making any worthwhile trades when he is
- Senet1 : I am too mch of a competitor to want my team to tank to. However, If these players played like they ae cabable of playing all year we would not be having this discussion right now, we woud be talking about the playoffs and who we would rather meet in the first round.
- rocky : Exactly, and Senet nails it when he says we have not had an elite top 5 in the nhl player since lafleur.
- goalie : I too want the Habs to get the best possible draft this June. We all need SOME hope!
- rocky : He is persona non grata in habville, and a ghost in every sense of the term.
- goalie : It remains a miracle how we have heard from our mighty GM twice since Christmas - the trades involving Spacek and Cammy and those comments were extremely brief. PG just does not cut it in my world. Part of a GMs job is to go public from time to time. PG never does that in fact he's a ghost GM!
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February 28, 2008 at 1:03 am
I don’t think hossa was the big name in trade deadline day
I believe Richards was a bigger name
what has Hossa done in the playoffs compared to Richards?
February 28, 2008 at 1:31 am
What has Richards done in the playoffs since 04?
February 28, 2008 at 1:57 am
Let’s all take a chill-pill ,shall we .we all have the C.H. branded on our asses ,lol.
February 28, 2008 at 8:56 am
Look here Habs4ever.
Have you heard me bash the Habs in here. Probally not.
I am and are probally more of a Habs Fan than you or anyone on this blog. I have spent tons of money in Habs stuff over the years proudly displayed in my rec. room.
DON’T DARE TO CALL ME A LEAF FAN.
February 28, 2008 at 10:15 am
Pittsburgh wont be able to resign Hossa in the offseason for 9 to 10 million a year. They don’t have the money, they are going for the cup and I feel like the habs would stop them.
Go habs Go
February 28, 2008 at 10:49 am
ice man,
I appreciate you are a habs fan, I’m not sure any bigger than I am, I even have a Canadiens logo tatoo, plus my rec room is also total Habs.
Regardless I still don’t think anyone on the site should be trashed because
of different opinions.
so lets carry on and cheer on our Habs, I do believe there is a difference
between trashing a team and commenting on deficiencies, but still loving
the team and cheering for them.
All said and done, lets cheer on the Canadiens.
February 28, 2008 at 11:10 am
Ok Habs4ever. Agreed.
My Apologies to whom ever I offened.
February 28, 2008 at 11:39 am
We are now all friends lol
Go Habs fans Go and Go Haba Go
February 28, 2008 at 1:00 pm
ICE MAN:
I get pissed at stupid comments all of the time on this site too, and it’s great to see us all fired up, sometimes even moreso than our CH are
… no sweat~
PS – Bruins?? Who’s worried about the Bruins? Unless Andy Moog is back playing nets for them, and Cam Neely becomes a half robot, we’ll be ok against the Bruins… Bergeron?? seriously guys, this guy gets nervous going into a corner store theses days.. he will never be the same. Bad for him, good for all other teams~
February 28, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Ty Conklin made 50 saves the other night in the Pittsburgh win…and is 17-4-5 since Fleury went down… now the Penguins are something to be scared of!!
But who knows who we will meet in the first round with where things stand now… we should just worry about winning and getting into the playoffs for now, no one has clinched yet. It would be pretty funny to see the Sens move to the 7th-8th spot in the conference though… anything can happen when points are this close…
February 28, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Boston actualy is 6th, but I think Montreal will be 2nd soon. They just have to win one of our next two! Probably against the Sabres.lol If we beat the devils, I’ll be sooo happy!
February 28, 2008 at 5:35 pm
I am so very happy that Gainey did not give up for Hossa, he is not worth the players that we would loose and definately not worth the contract that he would want as well.
As for Huet, it is a huge chance, but it is going to work out in the end, Price is going to be just fine, it is going to be up to Markov and Kommie and the rest of the defense to really help out with offensive opportunities.
One more thing, i heard about 10 times about us only having 1 line, 1 line, 1 line nothing else. That is not really true. If you are to look at the stats for Montreal, you would notice that out of the top 7 scorers for Montreal, they are on the second line. The Koivu line just has to get going, they have been doing fine lately and that is a great sign for things to come, but we have enough offense, more than 97% of the league actually this year, just have to concentrate on defense.
My 2 cents.
February 28, 2008 at 8:05 pm
FOR SALE…….ONE PAIR never used red, white and blue hockey gloves ( short….obviously designed for a goal scorer), delivered to Bell Centre by accident…..owner not found.
$20.00
all proceeds to go to the >>Lets find a Goal Scorer for Montreal Foundation<<<
February 28, 2008 at 9:55 pm
1) goal scoring not a problem
2) everyone in the east is beatable, EVERYONE!
February 28, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Everyone, specially Pittsburgh that departed with 2 good players and at his first game, Hossa ACL injury and I he’ll probably be out for at least 2 weeks lmao. Way too funny.
People Habs are going to finish first in division and I wouldn’t be surprised if they finished in 1st of conference.
Go Habs Go
February 28, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Both Ottawa and Pittsburgh lost tonight!!!
We can move past Ottawa with a win tommorrow night.
Lets go Habs!
February 28, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Habsfanforlife # 202
Agreed, but Richards can perform in the playoffs, he has proven that.
Hossa disappears in the playoffs, they go in different directions,
Tampa was a flash in the pan that hit gold, now reality has set in,
where is Hossa tonight ?? where is Richards tonight ?? I don’t think there is
much doubt about who the better player is. Dallas has improved their
lineup considerably-however so has the Penguins.
It’s going to be a **** shoot in the playoffs and anyone can up a winner,
I just hope it’s the Habs who do it best.
February 28, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Hossa was hurt in his first game with the Pens sat out the 3rd … a knee
See how things are people, no one this planet knows whats gonna happen next.
GO HABS GO !! GO HABS GO !! GO HABS GO !!
February 29, 2008 at 7:29 am
sens lose! now mtl is 1 point behind them and 1 more game left.
February 29, 2008 at 12:18 pm
I find it quite laughable that all of you so called “die-hard” fans come out here and blog away negatively and rip apart the very team you claim to love. Part of being a die hard fan is riding with the team through all of the highs and lows. Granted there have been many low points in the organization in the last 10 years….currently we are experiencing a great high! We should be celebrating and feel pround of what our boys are accomplishing. We all know the HABS have not been this high in the standing since they won the cup in 1993. However we must also think in realistic terms. This is a young team that is overachieving this year because of the rapid development of two key players (Koistisyn and Plekanec) as well as the turn-around play of a suddenly motivated Kovalev. There is still development to be done and experience to be had. This is the perfect time to trade away unecessary assets ie. Huet)
Give the full reigns to Carey Price and Jaro Halak….if they fail so be it, gives them valuable experience and pressure they will need to be successful long term in this city. I give Bob Gianey a great deal of credit for making this kind of move now. It shows he has the balls to do what it takes to bring this team to its former glory. He is a proven leader both as a Player(show with retiring his number) and a front office man (leading Minnesota North Stars to the Stanley cup finals in the early Nineties, and then building a cup winner in Dallas as their GM in the late Ninties.) I think we should all put a little more trust into this man, as he has proven he knows what he is doing both off and on the ice. Lets all show him the respect he deserves.
Regarding the trade deadline…..I have never been a fan of signing rental players. Really what is the point? It takes a lot longer to gel with a team then 8 weeks before the playoffs. And what if the palyer does not mix well with the team? Look what happened when we brought in Samsinov two years ago! There is no guarantee with name talent. Hossa is over-rated bottom line. The media hypes up trades like a firestrom, and close to none of them ever help a team win the cup in the end. Why would we give up proven talent and main ingridients in our team of Higgins, Ryder, and top prospects for a rental? Makes no sense to me and i am glad Gainey was not able to pull the trigger on the deal. We now have more than enough room under the cap to take a hard look and evaluate in LENGTHIER time span what we need additionally in the off season. Pulling the trigger on a deal at the last minute never works, and i suspect Pittsburg will realize this when they again lose in the first round and Hossa signs with someone else in the off season. They gave up way too much to get him, and their GM will be hearing about it to the effect of possibly losing his job. He will alresdy be losing either Malkin or crosby in the nest 2-3 years as well because both of them will be demanding upwards of $9mill + in the market then.
Lets evaluate Michael Ryder as well, seeing as he is another favorite to get picked on. Lets compare him to say Kovalev. What did Alexi do for us last year? Nothing…underachieved to great porportion. But in a year later they guy is an all-star again. The same will and can be said about Ryder. He is having an off year, but is a natural goal scorer in this league as he has proven. In recent last two weeks he has shown signs of turing it around, and i suspect Gianey has witnessed this and decided to hold on to him. Even if he walks at the end of the year, he gives us second line of scoring that has made us successful already this year. I predict he will have a strong presence in the playoffs and will again sign with the team for at least one more year in the off season. We dont want to see another Ribeiro situation here where we trade a proven goal scorer away, only to see him have amazing year with another club (look what he is doing in Dallas with less pressure).
Finally this audascious statement that we only have one scoring line, again just laughable. We are sitting in fourth overall in total number of goals scored. Behind only the almight Red Wings and Senators. We have more than proven to all the nay sayers (even within our own fans) that we can score on multiple lines, 5-on-5 and held on to our top powerplay line, even with the loss of baby Souray (whom by the way is having quite the year with the lowly Oilers lol)….I guess Souray didnt want to be a part of something special that is about to happen in Montreal….just in time for the 100 year Centennial Celebration happening next year. Coincidence? You decide…..Gainey has many surprises in his sleeve yet to come.
February 29, 2008 at 12:52 pm
I like Price more but I think that Price should start saturday not friday. And DEFFINETELY NOT BOTH!!! Halak should play tonight.
February 29, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Cristopher,your post was great till ya got to Ryder and tried to compare him to Kovalev,lol,apples and oranges man.As for Ryder ,if he is to be a Hab next year,he better stay on his goal scoring horse and ryder if he want to be a Hab next year,”notice NO other teams wanted him”
February 29, 2008 at 3:18 pm
I agree with you Christopher.
Xtrahabsfan, read his post again. He is not comparing talent. Just the way both had off seasons.
Do people in here find it hard to read posts or what. They read what they want to see.
February 29, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Did any of you guys consider that no body wanted Huet, think about it, he cannot handle the puck, he is inconsistent in goal and we were probably lucky at the last minute to get Washington to take him for a second rounded especially since he is a UFA.
If Gainey had traded Higgins, Ryder a roster defenceman and a 1st rounder and Hossa got injured like last night and say he was put out for the season. Now consider he decided not to sign with the Habs for next year. Now how do you like this trade?
February 29, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Well said Christopher
March 1, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Ditto, Well put Christopher, I remember the year Koivu was sidelined with
cancer, I believe Linden was with the team, League high # of man games lost to
injury and (if I remember the right) Theodore on his way to MVP.
I had no dillusions of a Stanley cup, but (at least prior to this year, or in the previous 10 years or so )never had I been a more proud habs fan.
This years team is the best in a long time, I didn’t at the beginning of the
year and still do not have high hopes for a cup this year, but I’m a believer
in Bob Gainey, and the NEAR future.
I always felt that Huet reminded me of Kirk McLean, he was brilliant in spurts
couldn’t (contrary to what was said) handle the puck. I never believed that McLean was a great goalie, and was never sold on Huet.
If my take on Price is right (and I could be on glue)then he wants the spotlight, he was made the go to guy in the WJ’s guess what, he was the starter
out of nowhere in the playoffs for the Bulldog’s, guess what.
To paraphrase a scene with Gene Hackman and Keannu Reeves from the “Replacements” – Winners always want the ball, when the game is on the line.
And I think Price is a winner.
Finally to all the complaining HABS FANS?????, whatever happened to real hockey
teams, you know the ones that were built not bought. Back in the day when trades to build your team were the exception not the rule. I DON”T WANT A RENTAL PLAYER!!!!!! I didn’t like the Kovalev trade (I can live with it now because he is still a hab)then, and I don’t want another one.
I want to identify with the team from start to finnish for the season, win or lose.
This is the best product we have seen in years, they are young, talented, mostly products of our own system, if you want a window shopped team go follow the Laughs or Rangers.
MY TAG NAME IS DATARA and I AM A HABS FAN!!!
March 5, 2008 at 11:50 am
Glad to see that there are some positive intelligent HABS fans out in this blog. DATARA you make some very valid points and i def agree with what your saying about buolding a team from the ground up they way the HABS have. Granted there have been a couple trades/signings (Kovalev, Smolinski) but for the most part this team has been built.
We should all been extremely excited about the up-coming playoffs as well as future seasons to come. Can you believe the hockey new predicted us to finish 14th in the conference???