Northeastern Clash
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A little over a week has passed since the Canadiens played the Senators last. A game which they controlled for the majority and nearly came away with a road victory before a couple small errors cost them bad and left them with out a point.
It was a good game to see where the Canadiens stand against the league’s elite.
Since then the Canadiens have found a way to beat Toronto in Toronto, beat Boston (again) heavily. But in between those two games they came up with a pathetic effort against Buffalo.
So which team shows up against Ottawa? Ottawa is first in the Division, Conference and entire NHL. The circumstances are similar to the last game with Ottawa coming off a rare loss, and an even rarer shutout.
The bar is set once again. An effort like they put forth in Ottawa and it should be a great game, an effort like in Buffalo and the Canadiens may get a rude awakening.
- muller93 : MB is forced to go out and get a big D-man. Missing Emelin for almost half the season is the last thing we needed to hear. Now going out and getting a big D-man is a MUST!!!
- muller93 : Now for the Fu**en Bruins who have no business even being in the second round are going to get a nice rest. Yes the same goons who took out one of best D-man for 6 more months. There is NO Fu**en justice. Just venting--Ok i feel better now.
- muller93 : So pissed to see the Rangers lay down and play like total crap. How did the Rangers beat the Caps? This team is playing with no heart--a must win and can only muster 23 shots...PATHETIC !!!
- muller93 : Senet I did see Galchenyuks goal--Made a great move for the game winner. You can see the kid has so much confidence.
- goalie : If Rangers get swept I wonder if Tortorella will get his walking papers? Or Glen Sather? They have tons of 'talent' but zero wins in this series.
- goalie : It's really too bad we lost to the Sens as we would have played the Rangers and the way NYR are playing we would have beat them too. If only. If only!
- Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
- stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
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November 19, 2007 at 6:55 pm
Put Chipcura with Higgins & Koivu. Chipchura is +6 so far this season!!!
November 19, 2007 at 8:49 pm
that actually might be a smart move, but Ryder has 3 points in his last 2 games,give him one more game!
November 19, 2007 at 9:12 pm
here comes a blow out guys. 2-0 already. the leafs can beat the sens but mtl can’t. I think this is mtl’s turning point in the wrong direction.
November 19, 2007 at 10:01 pm
Wooooo!!!! Someone characterize this game for me. I am just checking in, and am reduced to radio. Are the Hbs doing as well as the shot count would indicate?
November 19, 2007 at 10:19 pm
NO!
November 19, 2007 at 10:30 pm
hmmm
not going as well as i hoped. here’s to a big 3rd
November 19, 2007 at 10:41 pm
a couple more….
November 19, 2007 at 11:00 pm
I bet u guys anything that after this month mtl will be 7th and toronto will be ahead of them. STOP PLAYING HUET AGAINST THE TOP TEAMS!!!
November 19, 2007 at 11:02 pm
we’ve now allowed 4 goals in each of our last 3 games! not a good sign. We’re giving up the puck too much in our zone. I knew the good times weren’t going to last.
November 19, 2007 at 11:11 pm
here’s the truth: we’re not as good as Ottawa, and we’re going to lose to them EVERY SINGLE TIME! Unfortunately, Toronto is able to beat Ottawa. By the end of the season, leafs will finish ahead of the habs, because they are better than the habs,and because leafs have a very potent offence, and we have NONE!
November 19, 2007 at 11:12 pm
Here’s the good news: we play Boston 5 more times!
November 19, 2007 at 11:30 pm
Well I see that Huet is back to normal. Soft goals are coming in the bundles now. If Huet is our #1 goalie then we are difinately in trouble. He can’t control his rebounds, He not in position. 3 games in a row lost and counting.
We should just forfit the games against the Sens. Did anyone in here actually think that we could beat them?
What a way to spoil Robinson’s night. Every time there is a pregame celebration the habs always loose.
November 20, 2007 at 12:02 am
I smell 3 losses in a row! a loss to the Isles, and again a loss in Buffalo!
I think the hab’s offensive deficiencies are starting to show!
if we don’t get another scorer, you can kiss the playoffs goodbye!
November 20, 2007 at 12:25 am
We lost to a better team. Whenever we play against Ottawa, the Habs’ skill deficiencies in the latter reaches of the depth chart start to really show up. On the upside, Kovalev played reasonably well, Ryder was better, and Montreal’s defensive core was pretty solid. On the downside, Ottawa makes a few of the guys I like to cheer for look a little out of their league (eh hum, Streit). And yes, Montreal needs more than a “good game” from Huet if they are going to beat Ottawa. He really didn’t “rob” anybody tonight, and he needs to do that if they are going to stand a chance against Ottawa.
I also think young Latendresse is heading in the wrong direction. He avoids the battles whenever he can: he bailed on a battle in the defensive zone tonight that cost an important second goal against, and he’s certainly not grinding it out on most shifts like any kind of power-forward. I still think that he’d be a better player if he spent a few weeks in the minors to get some of his confidence back. As it stands, he is inconsistent shift-to-shift and he gets, at best, a “B” for effort.
November 20, 2007 at 1:18 am
you can’t give a good team like Ottawa that many scoring chances. They’ll kill you. We’re simply too loose in our own zone, and if we continue to turn the puck over in our zone, we’re going to lose, because we don’t have the offence capable of making up for our defensive lapses. we’re starting to make all the same mistakes that we did in the 2nd half of last year. It’s deja vu AGAIN! wake up habs or else you’ll miss the boat, AGAIN!
Man! how many times does Gainey have to see that same old broken record before he does something? It’s getting old, and this team has certainly overachieved. Now reality is setting in as this team is starting to come back down to earth, unfortunately. Are we now seeing the REAL HABS?
November 20, 2007 at 7:36 am
It was all huet. He let us down when we tried to win. 4 goals! come on Huet!
November 20, 2007 at 9:37 am
WAs not Huet’s faut…All the goals were point blank from low slot…However I agree with alot of the comments..We need more than a “good game” from Huet if we want to win…and that says it all….We had fat starts because we have unreal goaltending and we steal games…You can’t build a winner around that and we’ve been trying to do that for years…our defense is pretty decent….we have one of the best goali tandems in the league, but we have no heart or offense up front because we have no stars..plus enough with this back and fort goalie rotate stuff…huet startsto get in a groove then he sits cold for a week….no wonder he always looks weak in the 1st period..what other #1 goalie gets benched as much as him…give him the #1 job, play him 5 in a row or trade him..
November 20, 2007 at 12:15 pm
Maybe the habs should put Price in net for rest of the week,scratch huet for a few games, and call up Halak from the minors and Price could be our number one goalie. Maybe this will wake huet up and huet might say hey what the hell am i doing,im the number one goaltender, no offense, but something has got to be done.
November 20, 2007 at 12:27 pm
Huey, Dewy & Louy there just lost 3 games in a row……………… Huet was never a # 1 Goalie. He is backup at best. He could never get the job done. Not in the last game of last year in T.O. He is starting to let in softs goals. AND YES 2 LAST NIGHT WERE SOFT GOALS………………
November 20, 2007 at 12:54 pm
DTD you and all other Huet bashers are complete retards. Your memories are so short, he has kept the Habs competitive the last two seasons, we are very lucky to have a legit goalie like him to ease Price into the starting position. You have no loyality, you are not a real fan.
November 20, 2007 at 1:04 pm
Missed the game last nite ,but I knew what the outcome was going to be”no brainer”. We gots a good team which needs to keep improving as we near the playoff,and I believe we could do really well if the moves are made,but we have got to make them ,so no sitting on your thumbs Bob Gainey! What moves would you make if you where Gainey?
November 20, 2007 at 1:12 pm
OK so we have no offence. We all know that! We have no stars upfront, and very limited talent. So who’s fault is this? well, in the offseason Gainey did absolutely NOTHING to help this team offensively! What was he thinking? I know UFA’s don’t want to come here. So then you have to go the same route as LOWE!
You give contract offers to RFA’s and hope 1 player accepts it, or you make a trade. YOU DON’T GO INTO A SEASON WITH LACK LUSTRE NO TALENT OFFENCE! GAINEY NEVER EVER DOES ANYTHING TO CHANGE THE OFFENCE! WE DON’T HAVE A #1 LINE! GAINEY WAKE UP! our #1 line is more like a #3 line on any other team. Our 2nd line is better, but Kostistyn has not proven to be a scorer. This team is best a 9th place team, and that’s being generous. And when all is said and done, our deficiencies will be exposed: no offence, mediocre defence, mediocre goaltending(until Price gets his act together), and inexperienced coaches.
But it’s a learning experience. Unfortunately GAINEY AND CARBO NEVER LEARN!
November 20, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Patrick my Boy or Girl…..
I never was Fan of Huet. A ****** I’m not. Fans like U are just like the Leaf Fans.
Huet has brought us NO WHERE and will continue on the road to now here. Huet buckled under every pressure game he has been in………..
November 20, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Huet’s brought us nowhere? Newsflash bozo, with the exception of Brisebois no one on the Habs roster has delivered a cup, should we get rid of all of them?
And I suppose that Huet’s 7 shutouts in 05/06 were a fluke (he was the sole reason we made the playoffs that year), or his allstar spot last year also a fluke, and being one of only 3 habs to get a nomiantion for an allstar spot this year also a fluke? Loyalty = Leaf’s Fan? No I believe I’ll stand by my original assessment, your a ******.
November 20, 2007 at 4:29 pm
We will see won’t we Patrick. Don’t be so ignorant will you. Everyone in here is intitled to his or her opinion. No need for name calling.
Huet is & will not be a Carey Price……………..
November 20, 2007 at 4:31 pm
Also Patrick. It was Huet who cost us the playoffs last year. Remember…….. The bad goals that were scored on him in T.O. Or was that just a fluke?
November 20, 2007 at 4:38 pm
Vote for Larry Robinson in Orland Kurtenblog’s Greatest NHL Hit contest!
(Or, vote for Darcy Tucker. No? Okay.)
http://communities.canada.com/theprovince/blogs/kurtenblog/archive/2007/11/20/what-is-the-best-nhl-hit-of-all-time-matchday-three.aspx
November 20, 2007 at 4:51 pm
You know what, you’re right. I apologize for the name calling. BUT….
Not making the playoffs last year had a lot more to do with the nose dive we took in February, in which we were badly out shot, and rarely put in more then 1 or 2 goals. It’s been the consistent lack of offensive production over the last few years that has been responsible for our poor performances. The goaltending made us better then we were. This is a stale argument but I am consistently disappointed with how quickly many of the “fans” on this site turn on those players that have been our greatest assets (Koivu, Ryder, Souray, and Huet).
November 20, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Agreed Patrick…
(Except for the Sourray support… he truly was a bum and costed us more than he ever delivered, yup, shot hard (yipeee), but also was undressed by the opposition more than any other defenseman, as well as took way too many stupid penalties and generally a poor defenseman… A d-man’s main job should be to play D, not score)
I’d take Roman over Shelly any day…
November 20, 2007 at 5:48 pm
Yeah, but someone had to put the puck in the net last year. Should have made him a winger, and only played “d” on the p-play.
November 20, 2007 at 10:07 pm
Robinson should have put on the skates and taught some of those kids a few things about defence!
November 20, 2007 at 11:00 pm
i agree with patrick, look at huet stats. not making the playoffs was blamed on a goalie just getting over an injury letting in a few soft goals. c’mon. we had a playoff spot locked up before huet got injured and then we were left with aebischer and halak and a very weak 5 on 5 team.
its good to see that as f late we were better on faceoffs. i heard a stat that we were 27th in the league or something prior to playing boston. this shouldnt happen with kirk and carbs as coaches. other than that we should be very happy this year, except for the way we always play against the leafs. and dont worry we have a bright future, just check youngprospects.com and search team rankings.
November 20, 2007 at 11:39 pm
hey, leafs lost tonight to Boston. leafs were leading 2-0, and blew it. Funny, they can’t beat Boston, and we can’t lose to Boston. We beat Boston all the time, but can’t beat leafs(in regulation anyways). I love it when the leafs lose!
November 21, 2007 at 9:11 am
Patrick:
Dude I’m not in here to argue, just to give my 2 cents worth. Most of the people don’t agree with my opinions. You have some valid points about Huet. But. I was never a fan of Huet. I never jump on & off ther bandwagon. I call a spade a spade. He has had some good games. But alot of bad as well. He has never impressed me. (Well it not me he has to impress right.)
If price is our Future. Then Price should play a few games in a row to see if he is the “real deal” or a flash in the pan. If he is legit, then Gainey can start the ball rolling to get Huet ready for a trade.
I don’t agree that Price is to young. If a goalie is ready he is ready. That’s all that is to it. You got it or you don’t. He don’t nee to be down in the AHL to season. That’s bull ****. Sure price will let in his fair share of soft goals. But he will get better with more games played in the NHL. He can play all the games he wants in the AHL but the calibur of play down there is not the same as the NHL…………
GO HABS GO……………
November 21, 2007 at 9:44 am
We do not need to “A” Goalies for a run deep into the playoffs.
CARBO is a ****** Coach PERIOD. Last year when Abbishit sucked Halak was put in to do the job. He done fairly well. He keep us in the playoff hunt. What happened, Carbo put Huet in the last game of the season against a team that Huet has always had trouble beating. DAH. Halak should have been in the last game. Halak got us to that last game of the year.
So. IF we make the playoffs Carbo will rotate Goalies in the playoffS. “NOT ON YOUR LIVES”……
If Huet were to get Hurt again and Price got 15 shut outs and loss only 2 games. That Idiot Carbo would go with Huet in the playoffs.
If we had Sotty Bowman right now coaching this team. Price would be the #1 goalie every night as did Dryden back then.
WE WOULD BE UNSTOPABLE THIS YEAR. WE WOULD PUT OTTAWA TO SHAME. WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER 4 STRAIGHT STANLEY CUPS.
Don’t blame the players. WE NEED A COACH…………
November 21, 2007 at 12:09 pm
we need TALENT-as in GOAL SCORERS! WE HAVE NONE! If you can’t score, you can’t win! Maybe Carbo a lousy coach, but GAINEY IS A HORRIBLE GM! He’s done
N O T H I N G to improve this team! He did absolutely NOTHING to get some goal scorers! I hope he gets fired! Since he’s been our GM the team, we have NO OFFENCE! shame on him for taking checks for sitting on his hands!
And please don’t tell me about our depth, because the only depth is a multitude of 4th liners! no goal scorers! Even with the drafting, we only drafted defencemen! The last time I looked, it takes goals to win a game! Higgins, on any other team would be a 3rd or 4th liner and Latendresse wouldn’t make it on any other NHL team! This team stinks! We haven’t had a 40 goal scorer for 14 years! P A T H E T I C! no playoffs until Gainey starts acting like a GM! I’m fed up with this same crappy team every year!
November 21, 2007 at 12:42 pm
WOW !!!!
Dude. Why all the hostility ???????
November 21, 2007 at 1:33 pm
Well i can see we have some wannabe fans on the blog because a true canadien fan would never give up on our team and besides the point every body is bashing huet for soft goals.So i ask you this have you ever tryed to stop a rederection or a tap in they are extremely hard to stop and the plays make the goalie look soft.It is really hard to change you angle once you have comited to the original shot.So i say boo you to all negative POS WANNABES that have nothing better to do than blame the coaches an GMs for a loss to the leagues top team.
ps when was the last time we were scoring 4,5,6 and 7 goals a game.This is good hint there we are starting to gel as a team.
November 21, 2007 at 3:08 pm
HABS at #2 on the power rankings, never expected them to ever be this high this season to be honest…
http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?fid=548
November 21, 2007 at 4:37 pm
we were in the same rankings last year at this time, and we all know what happened. So if you guys want a 2 month season, that’s fine, but remember what starts to happen every December and ends with a thud in April, out of the playoffs. It’s the same thing every year! JUST WAIT!
November 21, 2007 at 4:46 pm
habs2bhab fan, almost forgot it , since you changed your name 4 times this month…why cheer then? why post here? why watch the games? you know the outcome come april so maybe shift your focus to the Raptors or maybe the Roughriders…they need some support
November 21, 2007 at 9:10 pm
how come most on this site are complaining about the goal tending for the
Habs…..I don’t see many who are talking about the REAL PROBLEM here…
inability to put the puck in the net, I’m surprised someone hasn’t complained that Huet has not scored any goals this year.
Goalies in Montreal are not the problem…it’s the offensive players that are the problem, everyone keeps yapping about the goalies and never addressing the real problem. I wonder why that is ??