Off-season.
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I thought I would post a place for discussion as we turn the 09/10 season over to the archives in preparation for 10/11. Things will fall into place over the course of the summer, and there will be no shortage of opinions on who stays, who goes, and for how much. What would you do? Lets hear about it.
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- rocky : So long.
- Senet1 : Good discussion rocky, I have to step out for an hour, but may be back later.
- Senet1 : The only way this team comes back to a team with long term potential is to draft a game breaker. Even all the other bad teams have a Stamkos or a player like him. He have some good player so what we need is a Malkin that we can count on 80% of the time to win a game for us.
- rocky : I mean winning will only do them harm that is.
- rocky : It really hurts because my reflexes make me want to cheer like mad, but it will only hurt the team now.
- Senet1 : Yes I have mixed feeling when watching the game. Last night I say here we go again. with our record of shoot losses I did not expect to win that one. Yet I wanted to win real bad?????
- rocky : God, so horrible to sit and hope for losses, but here we are.
- Senet1 : Our problem is we play one out of every 4 games good and therefore, we play well enough to stay on the borderline of a top five pick. If we win three or four in a row we could take ourselves right out of the running.
- rocky : I would love to get two of those players for sure.
- rocky : Subban , would bring a #1 IMO, but not top five for sure. You may be right, but it seems unrealistic at this stage. The way we are playing makes a top 5 pick seem likely.
- Senet1 : well if I thought I could get two of the top five juniors that have the potential to play in the NHL next year I would go for it. We are talking two potential super stars, something we have not had up front since Lefleur.
- Senet1 : well you may have to add a 2nd rounder or a player like Weber or even AK46, I think Subban would bring a #1 but not sure at top 5 pick.
- rocky : Maybe Plekanek, Moen, and Gill? Seems like a lot to give up though. A hard wedge to chisel.
- rocky : I agree with that as well, I just do not think Plekanek will get a big return based on his season. He is still a good player though.
- rocky : I am not is favour of that of course.
- Senet1 : Some say who would you currentl use for your second line centreman, well we have both Leblanc and Eller that are cabable and with extra ice time they both should improve.
- rocky : I see what you mean, but I do not think we have the player to trade for a #1 pick unless it is Price.
- Senet1 : If I thought I could get anothr #1 pick I would trade Plekanecs and whatever to the team to get that extra pick.
- rocky : understandable
- rocky : I do not believe it is possible for a tender to stop that move when properly executed, it should be banned but that is just my opinion. Many like the flashiness of it, which is understadable.
- Senet1 : It is hard for a goaltender to stop that move as long as the player has the skill to pull it off. Cole said the only way to stop it would be to trip the shooter. Wonder if that is legal?
- rocky : Yeah, the future starts now, that is for sure.
- rocky : Well, there sure are a lot of them. I myself think that one is not fair.
- Senet1 : The top 5 picks all look very good, it would be great to make a trade and get two of them.
- Senet1 : I for one did not know the spin or rama rule, it was always my understanding that the puck had to maintain a forward motion. obviously the spin o rama move the puck has stopped its forward motion. Even Price and Budaj when interview did not know that part of the rule. That is why before I disagree with someone I look up the rule. Like you I do not know all the rules.
- rocky : Lets get back to that. I sure like the look of that #1 ranked draft pick right now.
- goalie : Folks we're ALL good to go. We want our \Habs to do well adn it has been a very disappointing season. Howeve the blog lives on ands we all hope that our team is ablt to play well for the rest of the season whilst beginning the long process of rebuilding our team and NHL reputation.
- rocky : I also think they should make that type of goal illegal, but that is another matter. Thank you senet, yes when you watch the replay you must understand that under the current rules the goal is good. FINALLY someone gets it.
- Senet1 : Okay Rocky you have redeemed yourself at least with me.
- Senet1 : In slow motion if you watch Malkin he has some continuous motion therefore the goal counts. When I first saw the goal live it appeared to me that Malkin stopped his motion at the corner of the net and therefore I questioned the goal, however, in watching it on the replay he does not come to a complete stop before he starts his spin so the goal is good.
- rocky : That was a good goal and that is all there is to it. Mats was wrong. People can be wrong it is ok. I did not know that Markov being on the disabled list did not effect the salary cap. I was mistaken. See, I can say it and still draw breath.
- Senet1 : It is obvious people get the first part of the this rule and forget the second part of the rule.The first part of the rule says the puck must be in continuous motion towards the net, at the time of the spin the puck is not going toward the net, however, the player stays in motion then the puck is deemed to have forward progress and therefore the goal counts.
- rocky : There you go Senet. Thank you for settling that matter once and for all.
- Senet1 : THE RULE #24:The puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent’s goal line and once it is shot, the play shall be considered complete. The spin-o-rama type move where the player completes a 360° turn as he approaches the goal, shall be permitted as this involves continuous motion.
- rocky : The funny thing is that goal, and that game did not matter in any way whatsoever.
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July 23, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Here are the results from the mid-playoff poll:
Who would you choose as Captain of this Habs team? Hal Gill
12% Josh Gorges
27% Andrei Markov
4% Scott Gomez
4% Brian Gionta
36% Michael Cammalleri
15% Created on May 13, 2010
Closed
Total Votes: 1,690
July 23, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Here are the results from the mid-playoff poll:
Last post was misleadning due to the cut and paste this is the actual poll.
Who would you choose as Captain of this Habs team?
Hal Gill 12%
Josh Gorges 27%
Andrei Markov 4%
Scott Gomez 4%
Brian Gionta 36%
Michael Cammalleri 15%
Created on May 13, 2010
Closed
Total Votes: 1,690
July 27, 2010 at 12:32 pm
So its looking more and more like our opening day roster is already completed – barring a major shake-up at the goalie position. My speculatory senses tell me the lines will be:
Gomez – Gionta – Pouliot
Plekanec – Cammalleri – Kostitsyn
Eller – Moen – Lapierre
Boyd – Pyatt – Darche
Hamrlik – Subban
O’Byrne – Spacek
Gorges – Gill
Carey
Clearly Markov will move into the top D pair once he is back which will change the dynamic of the lines on defense. Most importantly it will allow the geezers (Hamr and Spacek) to rest instead of logging 20+ minutes like last year. I still see O’B as the best compliment to Markov – even if he’s not what you would think of as a top-pairing defenseman. I’d love to see Gauthier move either Spacek or Hamrlik as neither O’B nor PK will progress if they’re watching from the pressbox. Of course, you can’t rule out the effect that an injury could have which would make either of those guys very valuable once again. There really wasn’t a need to tweak the backend which performed so incredibly well during the post-season. We’ve already seen the impact that PK will have. His effect as a right handed shot that is fluid and dynamic on the PP SHOULD be incredible to witness considering what Markov has done to make lesser talents look good.
Up front I think the biggest improvement will come from the fact that the team’s core went through a very long playoff run together which will only help to ensure that the top lines get better from within. Clearly the attention this season will be on Pouliot and Kostitsyn to produce. If either one is able to light it up the Habs will look very good. If both decide to “soil the bed” we’re going to be hearing calls often for our desperate need for a top 6 forward. This could get ugly – especially if Frolov signs on the cheap and scores goals.
I fully support the move to let some of the younger players (Eller, Pyatt etc.) have a shot at the team right out of the gates. With guys like Pacioretti and Avtsin trying to make an impression in the AHL, it is better to let everyone play than to continue to sign vets to choke out the spots in the bottom 6. As much as I liked Metro and Moore – at some point you have to realize that having those types of players can serve as a detriment to the development of young guys. This much is clear – we’re not a contender. Knowing this the first priority of the team should be to let young guys have the chance to impress. You can’t just sign big names and hope to win. Chicago has shown everyone that it is still MUCH easier to develop your own into Cup winners than to try to buy a championship… although keeping your team is another story.
All in all I like the direction that the organization is headed. While things may look a little thin at some times, you have to like the fact that we’re younger than last year, and that there are players within our system that have the potential to impress. While we might not see another conference finals at the end of this year – we will have an exciting team that is starting to resemble once again the type of unit that we can be proud of.
July 28, 2010 at 11:53 pm
I agree Mats, I like the looks of our team, and the fact that it is younger. If AK46 does not perform or Pouliot stays flat, don’t be surprised if Avtsin brought up to fill one of those spots to see if he can perform. Also Eller may get a shot at one of those top two lines and Pac man brought up as a the first call up due to injury. Don’t be surprised if Gill is traded at the trade deadline, to help some solid playoff team, especially if we are not in the hunt.
July 29, 2010 at 2:51 pm
You’re absolutely right Senet1. Its not often that we suppose that we MISS the playoffs – even if its probably a toss up.. but there are a few guys who will get interest if we’re in that situation as the season winds down. Gill would clearly be one. Hamrlik is another obvious choice. Where it gets interesting (and dicey for Habs fans depending on their allegiances) is that Markov and Gorges are set to become free agents at the end of the season. If it seems as though the Habs will miss the post-season they will have 2 very difficult decisions to make. How much is too much to pay for Gorges? At $1Mil he’s a steal – what about a $3? What is it going to cost to keep Markov here for the latter part of his career? Under normal circumstances the Habs would never trade either of these guys – but if the season tanks, there will be a lot of questions – and these two will become valuable bargaining chips.
July 30, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Markov becoming a Canadian Citizen could mean that he wants to stay with the habs? Hope so, but we are taking this team into a younger team and five years from now we will not recognize the team. I would like to see Gorges sign and I do think he is worth 3M if he continues to improve. Markov could get a deal like kovalchuk if they allow it. Anyway I hope we stay competitive this year.