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Panic in Montreal?

  • There’s a disturbing trend going on with the Habs that we’ve not seen all year.

    Losing.

    The Canadiens have lost 4 out of their last 5 games. They’ve lost on the road, they’ve lost at home. They’ve lost badly.

    Forget the ‘stomach virus’ and flu that has hit the team and forget the poor officiating that disallowed goals on more than one occasion.

    Other than the game against the Rangers, the Canadiens have played very poor hockey. Is it a minor slump or are the Habs fading fast into their normal position battling for the last spot in the Eastern Conference?

    Guy Carbonneau is presented with his first real challenge, to get this team playing well again.

    How can they get it back on track? How can he light a fire under the asses of Kovalev, Samsonov, Ryder etc?

    It won’t be an easy start today against the Devils. The Devils own the Canadiens at home and always play extremely tough in Montreal.

    Martin Brodeur is never happier than when he’s in the crease in Montreal. Oh and Claude Julien feels pretty good winning in Montreal too. Nothing quite like beating the one who fired you.

    Carbonneau could go with youth and send a message, Lapierre has played well. Grabovski showed signs of extreme skill, but has much to learn about defence.

    He may not have a choice as the status of Koivu and Latendresse are still up in the air.

    Cristobal Huet will be key for the Habs if they hope to win, if he plays like he can and can match Brodeur then they have a chance.

84 Comments
  1. Rotate players that are in a funk with bulldogs,it’s good for both teams.Those players that won’t go, see ya!

  2. They played bad in the last games but against Ranger, they played a “not so good” first period but some players did well in the second and third (until the game was nearly over).

    I also loved to see Grabovski with Kovalev and Samsonov, it’s look like it might be working. For the first time I see a player who can do and finish play with Kovalev. Grabovski is a playmaker, he have talent and can make space around. But one game doesn’t make a career, and if he improve others teams will start to watch him more so you never know what will happens (he received a big hit in the middle of the ice in 3rd). He doesn’t look that bad in defense, he doesn’t hit (he was injured in the training camp), he looked bad (just like #27 and #15) on Ranger’s goal but he is not the only one to blame.

    For Samsonov, I don’t know what we can do, this guy skate well, but doesn’t keep the puck enough or lose it when it’s not time. He need to use is skating ability to get in front of the net and surprise the defense (even if he is small).

    Plekanac got 3 goal in 2 game but he is not a first or second line man in my opinion.

    Is Lapierre tired or still sick ? Yesterday, I didn’t see the same #40 that was playing before Christmas time.

  3. #3 high 4 habs says:
    January 7, 2007 at 2:32 pm

    there is 1 thing that bothers me. the habs don’t shoot enough, and they constantly give up good shots, waiting for that perfect play. I think that is 1 of the reasons other teams always outshoot us. opposing teams shoot, no matter where they are, and the habs refuse to shoot. a perfect example is Samsonov. the guy never shoots! I guess that’s the reason he never scores. If you don’t shoot the puck, how do you expect to score? As well he doesn’t stand in front of the goal. Is he afraid of getting hit? Can’t understand him. What a huge blunder acquiring him. It will go down as probably the worst decision Gainey made. Too bad for us, because we counted on him so much.

  4. #4 Kazmojo says:
    January 7, 2007 at 2:58 pm

    HabsInBlood had it right on the last post. Everyone take a pill. There was plenty bad in the last game (including the atrocious officiating) but look at the standings. The Northeast is probably the toughest division, and they’re in second place and fourth place in the playoff race.

    Yes, they are dependent on special teams.
    Yes, they take too many penalties (mostly of the phantom hooking variety).
    Yes, Samsonov hasn’t earned his fat contract.
    Yes, Abby is a cheaper version of Theo (5x cheaper).

    But the Habs have allowed the second fewest goals in the East — so much for all of you who think their defense sucks. Huet has a big part in that, but he is a purely positional goalie. He depends on his defense to cover their men. He’ll always be in the right place — nothing spectacular because he doesn’t need to be.

    The Habs also have proved that they have a deep pool of youngsters, and are built to contend for a while, not just now. Grabovski and LaPierre (Price and Kostitsyn?) are just the latest. Ryder, Plekanec, Higgins, Komisarek, and Perezhogin are contributing now while forming the team of the future.

  5. did you ever consider that many of the players were/are ill? Have you had your best day at work after spending the night in the bathroom?
    They will get better and play better..no need to panic.

  6. #6 joshtm says:
    January 7, 2007 at 3:21 pm

    Kazmojo, the fact that Montreal has some superior goalies does not mean it has a defense. The goalie is there to stop the goals. The defensemen (Judas Sheldon Iscariot, Ragdoll Ninnima, Stranded Streit, Kickem into your own goal Markov) are all crap. They contribute more to the other teams offense then they do to Montreal’s offense. In a sesne every game Montreal Plays has Four Offense and Two defense against, if you count the Habs Defense basically playing against their own team by giving the puck away, or setting up the other teams shooters, or knocking down Huet or Abby (Sheldon Souray’s famous move)….

    I don’t know what we pay Doug Jarvis for, but if you count the combined salary payed towards a no-nothing defense you could buy Crosbie…..

  7. #7 high 4 habs says:
    January 7, 2007 at 3:54 pm

    Joshtm, you’re a funny guy. I love “ragdoll Ninnimaa”. But you are right. Team win championships with a good defense, and the habs just don’t seem to have an adequate defense. In fact, they seem short on offense too. It’s up to Gainey to address these weak areas, and fill the void. Unfortunately he has not plugged the holes. What will happen, I don’t know. But I do know that we didn’t lose yesterday because of the flu. Players that played were healthy,and ones that weren’t ,simply didn’t play. We lost because of shoddy defense, and Aebischer allowing soft goals. And it doesn’t end there. our inability to score at even strength is a MAJOR concern. Why is that happening? these are professional athletes who get paid big bucks to score. You shouldn’t have to be up a man to score. Shows a lack of confidence by the players if they think they can’t score at even strength. Remember guys, history is not on our side. We’ve seen this scenario before. We start off tbe sesaon fast with big expectations. Everyone gets on the bandwagon thinking we will contend for the cup, and then, boom! halfway through the season we collapse, start losing games, and then we squeeze into the playoffs only to be ousted. I see it starting to unravel. I hope I’m wrong, but there are pieces missing, and until they are resolved, history will repeat. Please prove me wrong. It’s enough of this crap. Just win. guys, for the fans! it’s time.

  8. #8 joshtm says:
    January 7, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    Even the TSN commentators who are usually anti-habs have it bang on this time. “Pourous Defense”…and 9 shots in the first 2 and half minutes. That has to be some record. Kazmojo, what does that tell you about a defense?

    As usual Koivu is providing the wrong type of leadership, he must hold practice sessions in between games on how to get the worst most menial penalty….Koivu king of the hooks and wimpy penalties…..

    Honestly, we need some umph, some spirit. Kostysisn proved to be Kovalev’s spirited sidekick. What was Carbo thinking sending him back down? Keep Lapierre, keep Grabby, bring up Kosty, send Ninny, Downie and Murray down….or better yet trade them, or scratch them indefinitely…

  9. Outshot 16-6. No power plays vs a couple for the opposition. Must be another Habs game.
    The season’s over boys. Another 12 th place finish. We will have to accept making the playoffs once every 10 yrs.
    This team has one defenceman in Markov and a developing one in Komasarik and very little offence.
    And they continue to take tons of penalties.
    Pathetic!!

  10. The Habs will bounce back Tuesday and beat Atlanta. They have a couple of tough games on the road trip against Ottawa and Detroit, I think that is when they will get everyone healthy again and they will get back on a roll. I have not lost faith in this team. Don’t be surprised if Gainey pulls off a blockbuster move either before or during the trade deadline. Anyways, talk later!

    Ziyad

  11. #11 high 4 habs says:
    January 7, 2007 at 6:39 pm

    What a pathetic team! haven’t scored an even strength goal in 3 games! NO OFFENCE, AGAIN! And people think the leafs are bad? at least they can score 10 goals in a game. WE’VE SCORED 11 GOALS IN OUR LAST 6 GAMES!

  12. IF, IF ,IF .If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. This team needs a tear down and a rebuild,flu or no flu.

  13. #13 habs phan says:
    January 7, 2007 at 6:44 pm

    gainey needs to pull off a blockbuster move. shake this team up. wake em’ up. 180 minutes without an even strength goal. come on’. that’s crazy. how do expect to win when you don’t shoot the puck. normally i’m full of> “it’s only one game” or “we’ll get it back” bowl of shit. there is serious need for concern. our defense we’re taking team photos all game. skate to the puck!!! don’t just stand around and watch the game. your a part of it!!!! holly. forget about it. i love this team until i die, but come on. what’s going on here??? sorry for being so negative, just a frustrated habs phan. good luck against atlanta. losing ground right now, lets curb it and get back to our old ways>>>>>>> winning hockey games!!!!

  14. #14 joshtm says:
    January 7, 2007 at 6:53 pm

    Ya right like last years blockbuster moves that ate up the budget, with the acquistion of Nonuts Ninny, or Johnson Downey and Samsonov….what was so blockbuster about that? Thank God Gainey was away when we acquired the rookies that we have now. Maybe that is why Gainey doesn’t wanna use them, cause drafting them were better than any trade or move that Gainey made…..the worst was supposedly bringing on Muller and Jarvis as the saviours as assistant defensive and offensive coaches….all we have is Muller and Jarvis teaching Souray how to give the puck away, or Koivu how to get stupid penalties…..

    I think it is time to put Ninny in the rafters like the Habs did during their last winning streak, what does that tell you, if I remember Streit was up there too….maybe it is time to put the two back up to the nosebleeds….

  15. #15 habs phan says:
    January 7, 2007 at 7:08 pm

    let’s bring up scott macdougall, he plays beer league in kelowna bc, every sunday night. he can skate and shoots the puck. he’s a two way player. i know this is bull… but right about know i will suggest just about anything. come on bob and guy, take your team aside and fill them in. half ass effort just won’t do it against anyone. not loosing faith. we’ll bounce back. when???? that’s the question.

  16. #16 joshtm says:
    January 7, 2007 at 7:24 pm

    I would dress Youpie first.

    Did anyone see the Devils water boy score on the habs? I think that was after the Devils stick boy skated around Souray and Markov… sad.

    Flu or not, the habs have been in a slump since Kostysisn was sent down, maybe it is time to bring Kosty back up…hello Bob Gainey, your rookies are doing better than your veterans.

    Sure it may have looked like Lapierre didn’t do nothing but hey it was on Souray’s side of the ice that the shooter was….like everyone has Sheldon figured out. Sheldon wants to go, so it doesn’t matter if he is there or not, time to trade Sheldon to the Kings like he wants.

    Since Gainey is only looking to make the Bulldogs win, maybe Gainey can trade for some goon who can duke it out in the minors…heck trade Price, Lapierre and Latendresse while you are at it, since Bob Gainey has no style in the trade market…what’s that Gainey wants to trade Huet for Lindros? I guess we have to make sure we scout for players who have concussions and all manner of illnesses….gotta keep that medical staff busy at the Habs eh? I guess someone forgot to tell Bob that the medical team is there to help those players who actually get hurt playing the game, not to serve as nurses to broken down players….it is sad when Red Cross is on Gainey’s payroll as scouts, look Bob there is an ambulance chase that won’t you? maybe you can sign some broken down player for billions….

  17. I don’t here anything from the” don’t worry be happy gang,” Lets have at it.Make me laugh,I’m sure I’m not the only one who could use a chuckle about now.

  18. #18 habsboy4life says:
    January 7, 2007 at 7:40 pm

    I think it’s time to inject some reason into this debate. We are only at the half-way mark of the season and the Habs have exceeded expectations thus far. True, better play is expected from Sammy, Kovy, Ryder but screaming for a “blockbuster” trade is a hollow idea and ultimately unworkable in the new CBA environment. The Habs looked incredibely slow, probably the effects of the flu bug that has ravaged the lineup. With some rest and recuperation I predict a Habs resurgence by the weekend. This team is too deep and has too much experience behind the bench to tank at this point in the season.

  19. #19 high 4 habs says:
    January 7, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    Didn’t know the coaches could lace up the skates and play?
    I think the players have what’s called “the complete sesaon flu”; that’s why they don’t show up half the time. The team isn’t tanking. they don’t have DEPTH! that’s the problem! there’s not enough GOOD and TALENTED forwards to score. We have basically, 2 third’s a line. Koivu, Higgins and Koivu, because Ryder is a phantom on this line, and has been invisible all season long!
    the 2nd line is nonexistent, and the 3rd and 4th line only check. here’s an interesting stat: our total PP and short handed goals= our even strength goals!
    What a sad state of affairs. Even leafs have scored more goals than us. Who’se laffing now? Wonder if we set a record yet for the number of games without an even strength goal. Last year our offence was actually BETTER than this year, and you know what happened. I f changes don’t occur very quickly, say bye bye to the playffs, or at least a very very early exit. This team is going into the dumpster!

  20. #20 stevejur says:
    January 7, 2007 at 8:09 pm

    WOW! The 7th seeded Habs have returned. I knew it was to good to be true.
    Scoring was an issue at the begining of the season.
    Bob did try to get Shanahan and Elias, they both rejected us.
    I said it at the begining that Samsonov was a bad move. 3.5 Million for what?

    Frolov and Vishnovski FOR Souray, Samsonov and whoever else they want.
    I don’t know hit the panic button.

    WE NEED 2 GOALSCORERS QUICK!

  21. Well, here we are…the 1 & 2 losses have snow balled into a streak…other teams have regained not only the points but the momentum…this is not going to be fun…but it’s going back to the basic…Play defense first, forecheck at every opportunity and hit the adversary. Stop the foolish plays, stop getting penalties and play together…

    The goalies are still the same as at the beginning of the year. We have got to count on them holding the fort. These games have been ‘embarassing’. Another easy win for Brodeur. It’s the simple fact that the Habs were playing over their heads and getting wins that they probably shouldn’t have or were very fortunate. That’s obviously not the case!!

    It’s about time that Carbonneau start making some noise, start with kicking some garbage cans, throwing some water bottles and then benching players. Heck, even a promotion to the minors would settle some bad habits. At the very least light some fire under the under-achievers…mmmm Samsonov, Ryder, would be concerned. But what about the pylons,…Ninnima, and pretty much the rest of the defense. Can’t send everyone down but a rotational system might work…..make it sort of a game…..and this week the winner for lacklustre and non-effective playmaking and surely no scoring….’winner’s name’ earned the recognition justly rewarded…an all expense paid trip to the Bulldogs two or three game stint…just what the doctor ordered! And even announce the winner prior to the Bulldogs games. Yup, that would give us fans surely something to cheer about.

    Yes, and for the dreamers, they might get out of their funk and then we’ll all cheer again…but the reality is that this doesn’t look like an easy fix. First off, Huet and Aebischer have to stand on their heads and we have to score on the PP. Maybe taking out the opponent with hits and making them earn their way into our zone will/should make the difference. Oh well, there’s another game, can’t get any worse (oh yeah beaten 10, 11 to 0) and then send Patrick Roy to the eventual stanley cup winner :(

  22. #22 smiler2729 says:
    January 7, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    Why do some of you even cheer for this team??? Seems to me like you hate everything about them. Koivu’s not a leader, Souray’s Judas, Markov sucks, Gainey’s not a good GM, Jarvis and Muller suck as assistants… WHAT THE FUCK??? I wish you idiots would go away, OR WHEN WE START WINNING SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU ARE STUPID MORONIC FANS THAT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HOCKEY IT SEEMS.

  23. The team’s not playing a full sixty minutes. They were flat to start the game against NY. I refuse to blame the flu-bug. Any player who is scrambling for ice-time, should have stepped it up on Saturday. At least we can take solace in the fact that we scored three Power Play goals.

  24. #24 Habs#1 says:
    January 7, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    Ladies and Gentleman, Welcome to the Habs annual mid season slump! The same thing happens every year. They come out of the gate with a chip on their shoulder and play like they’ve got something to prove, then they just stop. It’s like they think ‘Well we’re pretty high up in the standings and no one expected us to be here so we can just cruise to the playoffs now!’

    Then it takes some kind of long break(last year it was the Olympics, this year hopefully the all-star break) to snap out of it.

    And joshtm, Koivu is a bad leader and Markov sucks? Are watching a diiferent team then the rest of us. This team collapses even worse then they are now without Koivu and Markov is the best defencemen on the team and one of the most underrated players in the league. It seems to be that you hate every current Habs player and would like to see them all traded to other teams for their good players because obviously the Habs can’t produce any good players on their own.

    And if you are french canadien(Lapierre, who’s been brutal the last two games or Latendresse who’s been extremely inefective since being taken off the Koivu line) then your okay.

    The glory days are gone pal. The Quebec draft rule is gone and the Habs no longer have a monopoly on french canadien talent and will never have a dynasty team again. Get over it.

  25. #25 high 4 habs says:
    January 7, 2007 at 9:32 pm

    Scoring PP goals, and losing, is not solace. Scoring EVEN strength goals, and WINNING is the anectdote to our problems. I think a stint to the minors for some of our underachievers, would be best. nothing like a dose of reality.
    There are simply too many passengers, and not enough blue collar workers on this team. It’s now up to Carbo, if he has the guts, to tow the line. he has to give a speech, ” do this or you’re not playing”, type of speech. In the face of adversity, let’s see what type of coach Carbo is.

  26. #26 Habs#1 says:
    January 7, 2007 at 9:35 pm

    This just in for everyone who hates Gainey, he tried to trade Murray, Downey, Samsonov, Johnson, Bonk, Ryder and his entire defence corps for Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, Jagr, Thornton, Phaneuf, Lidstrom, Pronger, and Lecavelier but for some odd reason the other GM’s didn’t go for it!

    Now back to reality. It dosen’t work that way. You have to give something up to git something. No one wants anythting on the Habs other then the young forwards and Markov, Souray or Komisarek.

    Oh yeah, for all you brilliant people who think sending people down to the minors and calling other people up, the people who you send down, unless on a conditioning stint and you have to be young enough to be able to do that, your contract still counts against the cap for the rest of the year. Learn the CBA and the economics of the new league before spouting off.

  27. Well that explanes Detroit,New Jersey and Colorado.

  28. Relax! Safe prediction #1: The Canadiens are not going to win the Stanley Cup this year.

    Nobody is making any significant trades right now, but a shake up of the team is probably needed to get some heads back in the game. Are the Canadiens allowed to bring Halak (the best goaltender in the AHL right now) up to the big team? Maybe give him a couple games in the NHL. If he is for real, Aebischer is likely history. We would need a capable, young D-man in return.

    I’ll say it again for those who weren’t listening before. 2012. Price in goal. Emelin, Markov, Komisarek, Fischer, O’Byrne on defense. Crosby, Latendresse, Kostitsyn, Higgins, Chipchurra up front. Gainey is still a hockey genius. Look at the bigger picture, and where this team was three years ago. Patience is a virtue.

  29. #29 smiler2729 says:
    January 7, 2007 at 11:24 pm

    I just watched the Penguins-Lightning game, Sidney Crosby missed his shootout attempt and Tampa Bay won! In some of your worlds, I guess Crosby should be traded cuz as you probably see it, he sucks! Thank GOD for some of the saner, smarter hockey fans on this board putting their thoughts down here cuz for awhile it seemed like just me and a bunch of morons.

  30. #30 high 4 habs says:
    January 7, 2007 at 11:35 pm

    You should work on your grammar, Smiler.
    You just said you are a moron. I’ll drink to that!

  31. As far as trades go, package trades would be the way to clean house and free up money’s.Eg markov,ninnima and samsonov for Gagne.Aebischer and downey for a younger defence man with some size and a point trigger.etc.

  32. #33 joshtm says:
    January 8, 2007 at 12:37 am

    Habs#1 forgets if you finish last you still have the balance of your horrible contracts. If you bring up your prospects to help you get the foot into the door of the playoffs, it beats getting shut out by the likes of Gainey and Carbo who don’t know quality when it shoots the winning goal! Yup, keeping Downey, Murray, Johnson, Ninnima means you can’t keep the likes of Lapierre, Grabovsky, Kostysin and possibly more rookies who were hot in the preseason and showed they are ready for the NHL. If we thought the way the last few posted, then Crosby wouldn’t show up for at least ten years and then he’d be wasted and he would not contribute. Man are you guys stupid or what? Ya, lets keep losing, just to prove a point that veterans should play even if they suck and lose, and cost the organization millions squandered for the near future, while the likes of Price get bought out cause, hey, we wasted it on some broken down injured veteran!!!!

  33. #34 habs phan says:
    January 8, 2007 at 4:32 am

    the rest of this month looks frightening right now, except the flyers. wait, yeah even that looks scary. we need to get back to winning hockey games. get rid of the players who are going through the motions. give the ice time to those who have a fire lit under their ass. get well rested before atlanta shows up. lord knows the rest of this month is gonna be a challenge. leafs, senators twice, sabres and the canucks. wait, forgot thrashers again on the 18th. man, i can feel the nightmare setting in already. with this in mind, the habs need to start doing 2 things again, 2 very important things that for some reason they stopped doing in mid december. 1-shoot the puck no matter when or how, just get it to net. amazing things happen when you shoot the puck. 2-start skating again, give some effort, go for the puck. all game today i watched habs players hesitate when going for the puck. why is that? go for it!!! claim it and own it. anyway just had to get that off my chest thanks for hearing me out. good luck on tuesday boys, let’s turn it around.

  34. Just too many penalties…
    and poor defensive play…

    someone has to tell Ryder to stop hooking!!!

  35. #36 high 4 habs says:
    January 8, 2007 at 10:48 am

    Someone has to tell Ryder to put the puck on the net, because he can’t seem to fin the target. he needs glasses, and a brain! he has changed like night and day since last year. what’s wrong with this guy? he scored 30 goals last year, and about 25 the year before, and now he just couldn’t score if his life depended on it!

  36. #37 Habs#1 says:
    January 8, 2007 at 11:34 am

    Try reading or understanding the CBA. You can’t just get rid of someone. There’s always some kind of reprecussion (their salary still counts against the cap), unless they have a buy out clause.

    And you can’t just package the players you don’t like for good players. The other GM would have to want them unless Gainey has humiliating pictures of them or something.

    And joshtm obviously dosen’t understand Price’s situation. The Habs won’t have to pay him big money for YEARS. They only have to sign him to an entry-level contract at the end of the year (minor league contract) and do the smart thing and send him to the Bulldogs which is the smart thing to do.

    Price is not ready for the NHL. There’s a large difference in stopping pucks shot at you by boys and trained proffesinals who do it for a living. Price will not be the Habs goalie for another 3-4 years.

  37. LET THE TRADING BEGIN

  38. MORE BIG BONE CRUSHING D MEN WITH HOWITSERS PLEASE.

  39. #40 joshtm says:
    January 8, 2007 at 2:14 pm

    I guess Habs#1 forgets Fluery and Lindros at the end of their demises…

  40. well at least you left my boys, Komiserak and Higgy, alone..this time…

  41. #42 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    January 8, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    I am Not having as much fun as was watching them win, but adversity builds character… the team is being tested. The fans and media derive “panic storm” is nothing new for us. Some of us have been panicing even during their win streak. I admit, I have done some arm chair trades and transations over this coarse also and also have been frustrated they’re in a slump. But come on we’ve got to take the good with the bad were still near the top of the division.

    I find it entertaining playing GM trying to figure out what’s best for the team or what the front office next move will be and getting feedback if people agree or provide constructive critism. Its gratifying to see when something you’ve suggested works, but having no liabilty to things you’ve suggested don’t. Does not mean anyone in the orgination ever going to hop on this blog and take our recommendations. I think the bickering among the Bloggers is entertaining and its fun a place where are opinions can be heard. Stinks to hear people come to name calling and low blows.

    I find it hard to believe anyone on the Habs is not trying step up their game in this situation. I just hope the turmoil does not filter into the Lockeroom. Like a Philidaphia Flyers situation, where arguable one of the games greats (Forsberg) has seemed to have lost the will to play and the attitude has filter to the rest of the team.

    Sundays game went a little hap-hazardly… I am sure Gainey and Carbo are feeling the heat and tried some new line combos and new players. Chemistry is hard to find when your forced into situation of a team scoring slump, ill ridden line up, and when rookies brought into mix in a days notice.

    I have learned a thing or two in reading the blogs… not so much from the tirades of doomsdayers, but entertained non-the-less.
    NOT going to give up on the HABS…

    GO HABS GO.

  42. oh dear lord, if 3 losses really constitutes this big of a disaster we should just give up on hockey and send the whole freakin’ team to reno. seriously, according to this collective list of comments, every single player needs to be traded- apparently habs fans would literally rather have an entirely different team? nothing in these games showed any problems we haven’t all known about for the last two months at least, the difference is that because they were sick they couldn’t compensate for their weak points as well as usual- with a healthier team, the rangers game would have been a win. their worst problem is 5-on-5, and no magic trade is going to solve that. it’s a question of training, hard work, practice, all those mundane things, and getting back their energy and focus.

    everybody needs to calm down, maybe take a nap, and have a little faith if you can manage it. nothing any of us say, EVEN IF WE SAY IT IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS, is going to make the team do anything, so you might as well grit your teeth and hope for the best. they’ve done pretty well for us so far this year.

  43. #44 hab-dab-a-do says:
    January 8, 2007 at 4:04 pm

    Ryder just called………………..He wants his fans back

  44. #45 kazmojo says:
    January 8, 2007 at 4:05 pm

    Thanks for injecting a little objectivity, coutNY_HabsFan.

    I have a question for all the pessimists here? Where were you in December? I guess everybody was happy riding along on the bandwagon then.

    BTW, this is why some players don’t want to play for Montreal — have a few bad games and everyone’s on your back. Let’s take a step back and look at how well they’ve done so far, and count on Carbo and Gainey to right the ship and get it back to where they had it going.

  45. dear god, if three losses really constitute this big of a disaster than maybe it’s time for all of us to just give up on hockey and sent the entire team to reno. seriously, looking at the total list of comments here, every single player needs to be traded… apparently habs fans would rather have an entirely different team? you know, they have those, they’re called, um, other teams. these losses didn’t show us any problems that we haven’t all known about for the past 2 months, the difference was that because they were sick they couldn’t compensate as well as usual for their flaws. with a healthier team, the rangers game would have been a win, and there’d be no streak, just the same up-and-down we’ve seen plenty of before. their biggest problem is consistant 5-on-5 play, and no magic trade is going to solve that. it’s a question of training, practice, hard work- mundane things that take time- and of getting back their energy and focus.

    everybody needs to calm down, maybe take a nap, and try to have a little faith if you can manage it. the habs have done well for us so far this year, and even if you think they haven’t, nothing we say- EVEN IF WE SAY IT IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS- is going to make the players or the management do anything. so you might as well grit your teeth, hope for the best, and give them credit for a pretty successful run up until now.

  46. #47 The Duke says:
    January 8, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    Hey kids…firstly…lemee’ tell ya…(in the words of David Johanson of the New York Dolls) L.U.V…LOVE the stuff I read here. Listen, I’m a long time reader…1st time ‘poster’, but here is something I sent into the Gazette In and Out yesterday after the game, and received some great responses…Go to town on it.

    Respectfully, another former Montrealer living (sadly) in Toronto

    The Duke

    Here goes ..

    Jeeeeeez fellow Hab fans…manny manny man !…easily the most frustrating weekend for Les Boys in months and months..But, let’s get rid of this nasty bug, regroup and take it to the Thrashers and Flyers this week.
    Now…most importantly, a standing (sitting ?) boo to that ass-clown skirt wearing tool Glenn (2-n’s) Healy for ANOTHER one-sided anti-Hab 60 minutes. It’s bad enough we have to listen to the anoying oh-so-glib sing song delivery from Jay Onrait with updates from the studio (my girfriend, straight faced, mentioned how it’s wonderful to have a full fledged GAY man like Jay doing sports nationwide..true story)..but Healy ? Sorry the Habs passed on you years ago and signed Andy Moog instead. Sorry, we beat you out in the ’93 playoffs on Long Ilsanad after you upset the Pens. Sorry you’ve become so jilted and jaded playing for and living in Toronto for years….but this is a NATIONAL BROADCAST in Canada. Not the MSG network broadcasting to ‘the swamp’. “Ho Hum..another Broduer save….turn out the lights, and send 20,000 hab fans home in the 1st period ..the Habs don’t THINK they can score…KNOW they can’t score on Broduer”. STFU !! It’s hard to imagine anyone any worse than Greg ‘anal wart’ ‘Leafs TV’ Millen, but it’s Heals.
    Again, we’ll be allright. Breath in (just not near the Habs dressing room) ..Breath out.
    Better ? Thought so.
    The Duke in Toronto

  47. #48 high 4 habs says:
    January 8, 2007 at 5:35 pm

    Understand fellow bloggers, that we’ve seen this same scenario before.
    habs start off the season with a bang, looking great, winning, all kinds of luck(winning games with 2 or 3 seconds left), playing well, and confident. then come mid December, they hit a road block. Reality sets in, and they realize that they aren’t quite as good as their record indicates. So they start to play down to where they think they should be, a 500 team. Unfortunately, every year , about this time they go into a horrendous slump, that lasts pretty much the entire 2nd half of the season. it’s no wonder we get upset. when is this merry go round going to end? this, my friends, is a broken record. it’s not about just 3 losses, or losing 6 of the last 8. it’s the SAME TIME every year that is happens! So, how can we make this year different? We’re tired of these antics. we want a new beginning. We are all concerned that the botton will drop out, and come April we’ll be clinging onto 8th place for dear life. Sound familiar?

  48. Listen guys, the Canadiens are going through a slump just like every other team goes through. The Anaheim Ducks lost 4 games in a row, the Red Wings also went through a slump and have also lost 3 in a row like Montreal, does that mean they are suddenly bad teams? If I am not mistaken, the Hurricanes lost 5 in a row and the Atlanta Thrashers also lost 5 in a row and 4 in a row at one point. Slumps are inevitable for any team. Hey didn’t you guys read what Craig Rivet said on a TSN.ca article where he cautioned that a slump would test their character? You cannot expect a team to play well the entire season. Besides, don’t you think it is better that they are going through their slump now as opposed to March or early April? Also, I agree with a previous blog here where someone said they go through a slump at about this time every year. It has been that way the last 3 years but have you ever noticed that they have played their best hockey of the year in February and March? i.e. Last February and March. Then what happens is they hit a bit of a bump near the end of the season and lose 4 out of 6 games like they did last year but they pkay well enough earlier in the year to ensure themselves a playoff spot. The Canadiens in my opinion will finish no lower than 6th in the conference but if they play well in the second half, they might finish 4th or 5th. I think it is time for all of us to get behind the Canadiens through this difficult time and cheer them on, otherwise those of you who are not, are not really Habs fans. GO HABS GO and let’s beat the Thrashers tomorrow!

    Ziyad

  49. #50 Jack Tornton says:
    January 8, 2007 at 6:48 pm

    Ziyad,

    If I was to determine your leadership style, I would classify you as a”laissez-faire.” Instead of actually determining the weaknesses and issues that are disturbing Habs’s early success, you simply deny to take initiative, and post a professionalized comment. Instead, you just want everyone to calm down and depend on the time.

    Since your first comment, you simply state and force people not to express themselve, and describe EVERY SINGLE FAN that states his/her comment as a non-Habs fan. If you’re so interested in the success of the Habs and deny to find a solution to Habs’ slump, then don’t spend your time to restate what what you stated 20 times before. Im not saying not to express yoursleve AS YOU DO TO ALMOST EVERYONE HERE IN THIS BLOG; I am just trying to tell you if you have any solutions to their problem(s) then express it because telling me that “Slumps are inevitable for any team” is killing me.

    Best regards,
    Jack

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