Patrice Brisebois Encore
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Patrice Brisebois is once again a Montreal Canadien.


Is this a smart move for the Habs? Is this an insurance policy or is Bob Gainey shuffling D-men for a potential trade?

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Long time Canadiens punching bag Patrice Brisebois may be back with the CH.
Bob Gainey has apparently made him a contract offer.
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- Avatar37 : Apparently only one offer for Carter on the low side so far, I think Montreal would be foolish not to investigate the possibility of a trade for him, and if there is low interest, the deal might be able to include moving Gomez. Gomez/Darche/Cam poli and a third round pick? Maybe not, but I'd be in serious talks with Columbus right about now.
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- Avatar37 : for him had we held on to him until now and created a bidding war. There are more buyers than sellers currently on the market and it would have been the perfect time to have traded him.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - I'm not sure how we could have obtained more for Halak. We showcased him, everyone knew he was available for trade, and in the end, we took the best offer. Any asset is only worth what a purchaser will pay for it. The Halak trade wasn't like the Cammalleri trade where you had GMs afterwards saying they didn't even know he was on the market. The Halak trade was done properly, the Cammelleri trade was a knee-jerk panic move, and while my opinion is that we could have received more
- Avatar37 : I saw the game, the Islanders first goal came from a shot that was clearly above the height of the crossbar. How is it possible for a play to go to review where they have the advantage of mulitple camera angles and the ability to pause and they STILL get the call wrong?
- goalie : I agree don't get dilusional over our three game winning streak. Changes MUST be made. I am however, glad to see the effort being put forth by the players.
- Mats Naslund : I just went to capgeek to see who the Avalanche might be dealing for a rental - and I see they have only 6 players signed for next season!!! There are a couple young D men on that squad who are RFAs who would do very nicely next season.
- Mats Naslund : One thing I know - the 3 game winning streak had better not get PG thinking about holding onto guys for a PO run. Trade them, build the value and move on to next year.
- Mats Naslund : How about Max Pac though.. 21 goals and on pace for 65 points this year. That is absolutely monster for a guy at his age/experience and especially coming after a horrific injury. Huge cornerstone moving forward. On pace for 33 goals.. could he get 35?
- Mats Naslund : Didn't get to see it either - and while I don't really care about the win, I am very glad that Gomez scored so we don't have to endure all of the negativity in the media about him for the rest of the year. He still su@ks, but at least it won't be a topic every shift he takes.
- goalie : Didn't get to see the game at all but it's great to see Pacs get a hat trick and fpor Cole to be + 3. When was the last time this team won three games in a row? Great victory -looks like they're giving 100% effort!
- Senet1 : 4-2 win habs
- Senet1 : Gomez scores, Yea!!!
- goalie : As I said yesterday it will be interesting to see what our lame ass GM gets for players he ships out. Bourque is good and he'll help us but I still think we could have gotten more for him and for Halak when he was traded.
- Avatar37 : round those picks occur (probably 3rd).
- Avatar37 : An interesting article. If we slip to the 5th or 7th draft pick, a very interesting case could be made for drafting Galchenyuk. If we wind up with the second or third pick, I'm not sure who I'd draft, because clearly Yakupov is going to be drafted first overall. Our second round pick also becomes interesting, I know I'd take Vasilevski if he were still available. It will also be interesting to see if we can turn some of our veteran players (Moen, Gill, Campoli) into draft picks, and what
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- Avatar37 : That is why PG should have waited on trading Cammalleri. Right now, there is a high demand for a top 6 forward, we could have gotten much more than Bourque in return. That isn't a knock against Bourque, but a knock against a knee-jerk reaction trade that didn't maximize our return on a top asset.
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- Avatar37 : chips fall where they may. After all, the only difference between finishing 17th and 29th is how good a pick you get in the draft.
- Avatar37 : We currently sit in 26th place in the league. We are 15 points ahead of Columbus, it's safe to bet at this point they will place last. We are, however, only 4 points ahead of Edmonton so it's still wide open as to who is going to finish second last. I still think that it's time to sit the veterans, play the youth, let them get experience, and regroup for next year. I'm not suggesting deliberately tanking like the Penguins, but give all our young players lots of playing time and let the c
- Avatar37 : goalie - If it were not for the play of Cammalleri, we would never have made it out of round 1. Cammalleri played as big a part, if not bigger, than Halak did. Sure, Halak played well, but remember the team collapsed in front of him, making his job much easier. We had lots of blocked shots and the ones that got through were typically from the outside.
- Senet1 : Goalie you are absolutely right, of course the one thing we had the two previous years that won the games that we are losing this year was our power play. If you look at say 10 games that we should have won had we had a similar power play, again we would not be having these conversations. When your PP goes from first to last in the league that is a lot of goals.How many games have we lost this year by one goal. Again poor management who did not prepare for Markov's possible absence.
- goalie : I'll put it another way.... we need more players who are willing to get their noses dirty.
- goalie : Two years ago when our goaltending stole series adn our players suddenly scored the coaches / GM believed that that was our true team . Well time has proven that was not. Though I was very glad to see the Habs knock off some very good teams we were very fortunate. And fortunate that spring was spelled HALAK!
- goalie : The wrst mistake management could possibly make I believe is to say, we played well some games and we believe the team can play to that level more often in the future. This team CANNOT adnb DOES NOT play to a high enough level. Please do not kid yourself mamngement. hat is partially why we're in the lace we are.
- goalie : Senet is correct when he says that if we had more games with a better efort this year we'd likely be in the playoffs. It has been very inconsistent effort but much more than that. We lack big, tough playing and finishing. Never mind fighting for a moment. We did not compete for the pucks nor along the boards nor in front of both nets enough this year. Thus we are in 29th. If the coaching staff doesn't see that then they shouldn't be there.
- Senet1 : Surely Molson is not going to keep him as the GM?
- Senet1 : when he knows he will be fired at the end of the season. Nothing really makes since in this whole process.
- Senet1 : I am not sue why PG has not been fired by now. They could be waiting for another GM to come available at season end, but why would you not set up a committee to manage the team in the short run until a new GM can be named. There is no since in chaning coaches because whoever the GM is he will want to name his own coach. Gainey and a committe of other executives can manage the team through to the trading deadline and onward. What motivation does PG have to making any worthwhile trades when he is
- Senet1 : I am too mch of a competitor to want my team to tank to. However, If these players played like they ae cabable of playing all year we would not be having this discussion right now, we woud be talking about the playoffs and who we would rather meet in the first round.
- rocky : Exactly, and Senet nails it when he says we have not had an elite top 5 in the nhl player since lafleur.
- goalie : I too want the Habs to get the best possible draft this June. We all need SOME hope!
- rocky : He is persona non grata in habville, and a ghost in every sense of the term.
- goalie : It remains a miracle how we have heard from our mighty GM twice since Christmas - the trades involving Spacek and Cammy and those comments were extremely brief. PG just does not cut it in my world. Part of a GMs job is to go public from time to time. PG never does that in fact he's a ghost GM!
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August 3, 2007 at 5:45 pm
the wheels are in motion…welcome home breezeby
August 3, 2007 at 5:51 pm
wow,I’m the first!YAY! ok,well Patrice brisebois is 36, and we don’t need him.Dandenault will be likely traded maybe to San Jose or Columbus, but we brisebois for cheap and he is thinking that this will be his last season. He was born in Montreal it’s his favorite team and he will have a great season I hope.
August 3, 2007 at 7:36 pm
Everyone should read the article on Brisbois on the habs site…………it is now more apparent than ever as to why they would bring him back…… he makes a comment about how he and Carbo and Muller all won the cup together in 1993……….think about it……those 2 coaches I am sure last year talked up their cup experience to the players but to no avail…..now they have an actual player on the team who can back their preaching up!!!!!! Now this makes sense as to why they brought him back!!!!
Hope this works!!!
August 4, 2007 at 12:37 am
Brisebois will be fine. Huge impact in the dressing room and finally, a player who WANTS to be in Habville. For the price, good value, pure and simple. Dont expect much, however, but dont forget – this guy helped the Habs win a cup. Give him a break and welcome his back my friends. Enough with the anti Breezeby ****. Move on. Bob G. is a genius – and very couragous for making this move. Takes guts to make such in move in Montreal. Let time determine the winner of this deal.
August 4, 2007 at 1:16 am
Trade coming perhaps? I would think yes espically with all the young talented Dmen coming up, O’Byrne, Valentenko, Carle, Fischer and McDonagh.
August 4, 2007 at 2:52 am
Tell-you what BC Genius,if the Habs do well then B Gainey &Carbo will officially be in the Genius catagory in my mind and in fact shock the entire hockey world!That’s not asking too much is it?lol
August 4, 2007 at 10:06 am
Wow. And I thought Gainey said he was done with all his “big” moves. Guess he had to go get a whipping boy to take care of the inevitable heat Hammerlicker is gonna get, and who better than the most booed Hab in recent history? Another Ninnimma-esque type player who will be scratched as often as he plays, or even more. I’d rather see a rookie there, learning his craft than a known pylon.
August 4, 2007 at 10:28 am
I never had a problem with Brisebois. Good move, here’s hoping the fans treat him better than they did and I’m sure he’s going to have a better Plus/Minus than Sheldon Souray’s -28!
August 4, 2007 at 11:28 am
I have this (crazy) convincing feeling that Bib Gainey will either pull a trade that will BRIGHTEN the team or will do one stupid (unforgivable) mistake which ill riuin his (so much) respected reputation
*Brisebois was a very good acquisition. It showed some class in both Brisebois and General manager Bob Gainey. Both have what we call gutzz.
August 5, 2007 at 12:38 pm
Hmmm…I don’t know what to think of this acquisition. I definitely wasn’t Brisbois’ biggest fan with his first stint with the team, and I have no idea how he did away from the team. All I can say is that I still have faith in Gainey. So, I’m willing to give Patrice a chance to prove that he’s become a better player.
August 5, 2007 at 3:39 pm
Canwest news service is reporting that Mr Scotty Bowman may at the end of the week become the Leafs senior advisor.OH-oh!
August 6, 2007 at 1:22 pm
The point is that he isn’t here for the money, he is here for the team and that’s exactly the kind of player we need. This may be his last season before his retirement and i believe he will, by all means, make it his most memorable one and give it his all. His heart and soul like he said.
GO HABS GO!
August 6, 2007 at 1:32 pm
Bowman denies it…
Isn’t he too intelligent to risk tarnishing his reputation and achievements with such a weak organization? It would take years to dig themselves out of the messy their contracts and many more to replentish the talent in the form of prospects, since they traded 2 top picks away this year for a #2 goalie (better hope TUUKKA Rask comes of age soon)… cuz it would be a while to build the organizations depth chart which currently ranks among the bottom 5 in the NHL.
Bowman join the Habs if you want to join something worth while… come home.
August 6, 2007 at 5:48 pm
coutNY…Tuukka Rask is Boston’s property.
August 6, 2007 at 7:25 pm
This is exactly what the habs are in need of. When i looked at our D, i had no idea who would be our #4. I thought of possibly O’byrne but that would be a lot to ask. Brisebois will be a great as a non-top pairing defenseman. amd at 700k, what is there to lose. It’s not like it’s the end of the world if this doesnt turn out well. He’s earning close to 2 million dollars less than niinimaa did so this move is great. I agree wth mysteryfan on post 3. brisebois can be the bridge to the players that we needed. he can reinforce all that carbo and muller say about 93. Our Defense fairs pretty well against the other teams in our division and the majority of the teams on our conference.
August 6, 2007 at 10:01 pm
All the same coutNY habs bro,what does Bowman have left to prove,think about it,if he made the laff’s a cup winner,that would make Scotty a hockey god,just what an ego like his needs,I mean I can’t even phantom Taranna grapenuts with a stanley cup!lol.Infact the thought just made me feel sick!
August 7, 2007 at 8:35 am
LEBeau ~ All the more reason Scotty wouldn’t take the job….LOL
Boy things look even more bleek for TO than I thought.
I meant Justin Pogge. Thanks for the correction!
XtraHabsfan ~ True, but Bowman and his ego would need complete control in order to turn that club into a winner. Ferguson would need more than just advice from Bowman, he needs to clean house, and admit everything he’s done to this point was a mistake, than quit and give Bowman the helm. Not seeing that happen!
August 7, 2007 at 11:01 am
Lets not forget what just happened in Ottawa,Toronto is so desperate for the cup”not since 1967,when I was eight years old and the movie box office hit,Clint Eastwoods the good,the bad and the ugly or top T.V.show Rowan and Martins Laugh-in,LOL”If they had a chance good bye Fergie,lol.Man and his world at Montreals Expo 67,wow,ha ha ha ha……
August 8, 2007 at 11:13 am
I saw Brisebois in Colorado the last 2 years. I think it’s a bad move for the Habs. He’ll be decent the first 15-20 games, lots of points from the point. But Patrice is slow and gives the puck away in his own zone a lot.
Considering how much people booed him last time he was with the Habs, I’m guessing he’ll ride the bench most of the season.
He’s just too old and too slow. Sorry, guys.
August 8, 2007 at 12:53 pm
I believe that even with all of MTL’s players this year It will be a battle to get into the playoffs. and It will be hard.
August 10, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Very interesting article about the value given forth to Numbers: http://www.habsinsideout.com/2007/08/plekanec_less_than_half_the_pl/#more
BTW, Plecks is repping number “14″ next year!!!
After reading this article, you guys will certainly understand the meanin behid those retired numbers!
August 15, 2007 at 10:43 pm
Hab blog,please bring up Sam Pollacks profile,R.I.P.
August 16, 2007 at 9:00 am
Sam Pollack articles ~ Paying tribute to a Legend, who reigned over Legends
Red Fisher
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=0f2006b5-5fc6-4e7c-8078-23669f04ecd0
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/234885.html
August 18, 2007 at 9:15 am
Just curious…any of my fellow posters here involved in the October 20 Sabres-Habs Habs I/O meet, greet and game? I’ll be there like white on rice.
August 19, 2007 at 9:56 am
What a disappointing off season, hope some young stud evolves out of the Montreal organization, or were gonna have a long wait. I see we have good depth, and people seem to think were 2 or 3 years away. I see a bunch of 3rd liners, chipchura prolly a 4th liner. I don’t see many top 6 forwards, if any, tank the next 2 years and get Tavares. Were in trouble.
August 19, 2007 at 1:51 pm
I agree and what make matters worse?,my doubts of head coach Carbo’s potential to even come close to pulling this off,”line-juggling, overly defencive, self centered, unproven and highly doubtful too pull it off sophomore!”It really reminds me of Mario Trembley’s attempt to be king.Carbo’s going to get so many players injured at the beginning of the season diving in-front of pucks and running into each other…..,well I really hope I’m wrong but if the Habs make it to the finals this year it will be another miracle on ice!Ido believe we are going to see a record amount of different players with the C.H. jersey this season and that will be all,sorry.
August 20, 2007 at 11:45 am
And as always bad mouthing the habs and staff even before the start of the season
August 21, 2007 at 10:09 am
well he is kinda right. we don’t have a number 1 guy. Koivu did his best last year but only 75 pts. kovalev used to play really good, but he doesn’t really care anymore. we need a 100 pts getter! OUR DEFENCE IS FINE!
August 21, 2007 at 4:57 pm
It’s hard to see other teams make moves while our team stays idle. Obviously we don’t see all the things that go on
behind the scenes. BUT, scoring has been an issue with this club for quite a while. I’m not saying that bashing the
players, coaches, and management before the season even begins is the right thing to do at this point in time. But
someone must be held accountable for this team’s performance. If we don’t have the players, (and right now, we
don’t) then it’s up to management to bring in better talent – like a good solid Center.
August 21, 2007 at 7:39 pm
I have followed Montreal since 1967 and I maybe wrong but with the addition of Patrice along with the new young guns, Koivu and a big year from Kovalev, get ready, this is the year.
August 21, 2007 at 10:39 pm
Hey guys, things could be worse. We could be Leafs fans. I’m still hoping that by some miracle, we end up with Selanne. Teemu, please don’t retire!
August 22, 2007 at 1:22 am
*************************BUZZ**********************************
Kovalev (tuesday) got into a motorcycle accident. based on the reports, injuries are not serious. He was driving Grande-Rivieres’ mayors’s motorcycle and got into an accident. It is believed he became a very good friend with the mayor after the accident. He showed some class by promising him to fix his bike and buying him a new one!!!!
I would love to see him show some class on ice!!!
August 22, 2007 at 11:55 am
Whats going on in Montreal? Isn’t it time to get a star there again? Don’t get me wrong….I’m a huge Habs fan…been so all my life….but people, wheres the glimmer of hope for us diehards…..wheres the player or two that make us fans say “ok, thats a good start”? Smolinski, Hamrlik, and Brisebois…..3 players out of their prime, AND who weren’t really much in their prime. So essentially what we have now in Montreal is the same team as last season…the same team who couldn’t make the playoffs then, and subtract Souray’s 20 plus goals this year. Really, it’s enough emphasis on “players who are good in the dressing room”….how about we try to get some players who are good on the ice…wins games and all that jazz. I really hope I eat my words and our beloved Habs have a great season…but of course, that would mean a team of average players geling like they did in 93, and thats a chance in a million in todays game. Sure the only player scoring any goals (Ryder), again this year is the last player signed AND it took going to arbitration to do so. Doesn’t something seem wrong with that? Whats the plan here….”we dont need goals because we’re gonna try to win all our games 1-0 and 2-1 with solid D and top-notch goaltending”? Not gonna happen….cuz we don’t have either. I know it’s a slow process of building, but it has been years now, very slow and seemingly still no building. I really can’t see any of these 3 acquisitions making any kind of impact on this years team, not where they need it anyway. I guess we’re still supposed to be waiting for the big breakout of Koivu…how many years has he been there now anyways?
August 22, 2007 at 12:28 pm
Rite-on,Donnie,rite-on!
August 22, 2007 at 2:07 pm
I can understand people being frustrated with this team, but I can’t take people bashing Koivu.
This guy is a warrior. Not only is he a class act, but he was able to come back from that eye injury
and from cancer. He did all this and played pretty well both times! I remember seeing his triumphant
return that playoff series against Boston – (after recovering from cancer) and watching him kick butt!
Living in Toronto, I’m always hearing Don Cherry talk about the rough and tough good ole’
Canadian boys. Non of whom have anything on this team’s captain.
Yes, there are problems with this team, but Koivu’s not one of them.
August 22, 2007 at 5:00 pm
I’m on the same page as you Jack Hab. I’m a big Koivu fan too.
August 23, 2007 at 4:09 pm
Brisebois can stay he can train those 500 dmen we picked up this summer. and Koivu can leave only if we get lecavalier , And its too soon to complain about what gainey’s trying to brew.
August 28, 2007 at 3:09 pm
Don’t get me wrong Jack Hab…..I like Koivu too…perseverance and balls is what he’s all about, this has been proven over and over again……I’m not bashing him, I’m just saying that he hasn’t lived up to the production numbers that he is capable of having. Lets face it, if the top guy on your team is averaging about 70 points a season, thats just not enough production. The problem then, is goals, we’re not scoring enough. I don’t know, maybe the Habs just haven’t found the right player to combine and gel with Koivu to up the production….but when your teams “star” can go cold for 10 games, then have 2 good games, then go cold for another 6 or 8, thats just not enough consistency or production….and thats what Koivu’s season have been like since he’s got there. I like the guy, he’s a great leader and captain, and he’s loved by all the Habs faithful…all I’m saying is that he’s gotta start doin it on the ice with his stick, instead of just in the dressing room with his attitude…can anyone really argue with that? Let’s go Saku !!!
August 28, 2007 at 4:27 pm
I can’t argue with that, Donnie. Your opinion above is pretty valid.
August 31, 2007 at 5:39 pm
You guys are right about Saku. Imagine if he could play with a player like Heatley !! It would be a nex team perspective and no one here would complain about the captain…