Playoff Showdown
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Leafs and Habs on a Saturday night…. best place to be. Leafs and Habs in the last game of the year, with the last playoff birth on the line – a storybook ending.
Win and you are in.
That’s the message the should be drilled into every Montreal Canadien today.
No hoping for team A to beat team B and team C to lose in regulation – win and you are in.
Win the game.The Habs control their own playoff destiny and it’s time to see what they are really made of.
For the youngsters that helped propel Montreal into this position, this will be the biggest game of their lives. With everyone in the country and everyone in the hockey world tuned in.
For the veterans, it’s time to see their experience and leadership.
Which of the go-to guys on either team are going to show up and excel?
Koivu -vs- Sundin
Kovalev -vs- Tucker
Raycroft -vs- Huet
Souray -vs- Kaberle
McCabe -vs- Komisarek
Habs -vs- Leafs.
Enjoy.
- Senet1 : It will be interesting to see how Sutter does because to me the Oilers are not his kind of team, but then again neither were the Flames.
- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
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April 8, 2007 at 12:56 pm
We need to make sure that we don’t keep extra baggage. It’s time for Koivu to go. His undisciplined penalty last night and on countless other occasions this season, really hurt this team. Added to the fact that he didn’y show up for many games in Jan, Feb, and so on. His 22 goals are not worth 4.75 mil.
It’s been nice having him here, but it’s time to say goodbye, along with Kovalev(Mr. Invisible). Just to show Kovalev’s cowardness, he didn’t even stay in the dressing room last night, after the game to answer questions.
He’s a gutless, no show piece of garbage! HE’S GONE! Sorry to say, Souray won’t be resigned! Too expensive, and a DEFENSIVE LIABILITY!
Let’s hope Gainey is able to land 1 or 2 UFA’s and trade some of the deadwood.
Oh, BTW,habs missed the playoffs in Jan and Feb! Any team who has to depend on the last game of the season to make the playoffs, has NO BUSINESS BEING IN THEM! They played last night the same way they played all season: playing for only 20 minutes, undisciplined, taking too many penalties, allowing soft goals, and bad defence!
So, just wait for the draft now, and hope we get good draft picks, then a few trades, and sign acouple UFA’s, and out with the trash!
April 8, 2007 at 1:07 pm
We deserved to lose after the way we played last night. We would have been swept in 4 straight by Buffalo. Maybe this is a wake-up call that we should get the right type of players otherwise we will be **** for a while. We will be a better team next season and WE WILL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!!! Last year, we knocked out the Leafs when we won those two games at home, when we beat their asses all over the Bell Centre, we will do that again next year. We will kick their asses next year and get our revenge. Last year, we beat them and they wanted revenge this season, well next year is our year of redemption and WE WILL KICK SOME LEAF ***. However, the hockey gods finally wanted the Leafs to win a big game against us for the first time in 40 years so they did. We had been kicking their asses for the past 40 seasons so maybe it was time for a change, somewhat like when the Red Sox finally beat the Yankees after the Yankees always beating the Red Sox. Enjoy it Leaf Nation, because it will only last this year. You won’t be so lucky next season, MARK MY WORDS!! Anyways, Habs need to retool for next year and improve on this season. We need new players, get rid of all the useless garbage, bring up the kids from Hamilton and we will be better next year. Anyways, Leafs fans should not be so happy just yet, if the Islanders win, they will not make the playoffs, so don’t count your chickens before they hatch, LAFF fans. Anyways, if you do somehow make it to the playoffs, you will get your asses kicked by Buffalo, who I want to win the Stanley Cup if no Canadian team wins it. Let’s go Buffalo and kick some Maple Leaf ***!!
Ziman
April 8, 2007 at 1:49 pm
Since the 1998-99 season to present,(8years),(not including the lockout year), HABS HAVE MISSED THE PLAYOFFS 5 OUT OF THE LAST 8 YEARS! Something is wrong with this organization! Why don’t we ever get better,PERMANENTLY!
Detroit,Ottawa, NJ, always gets in the playoffs, why can’t we?
Gainey needs to stop tweaking this club, and make major changes!
We shouldn’t have to worry from year to year if we’re good enough.Detroit, Ottawa and NJ don’t have those concerns! I WANT BIG BIG CHANGES OR I’LL CHANGE MY ALLEGIANCE!
April 8, 2007 at 2:21 pm
The leafs paid the refs off. How about the Islanders or the Gary Bettman paid the refs off. Bettman wants all three New York teams in the playoffs. SO he does not have to travel much and he hates when a Canadian team is in the finials.
April 8, 2007 at 2:33 pm
R habs 4 real, please do switch allegiance. I think that would be better for everybody.
And you want to know why the Habs aren’t like the Red Wings, Devils etc.? Cause before Gainey got here Houle and Andre Savard couldn’t draft worth ****. They were horrible GM’s. The Bulldogs and the Habs had no young players or prospects till Gainey got here.
This will take time. I know no one wants to here the word ‘patience’ anymore but it’s the truth. You’re either loyal or not, through thick and thin. This team will be top 6 in the East next year. This will take a couple more years.
And Koivu just had career high’s in goals and assists so lay off. Carbo will be a better coach who will have lived from his mistakes and with the Russians gone there will be no more cancers in the room that he has to deal with. And once they get one more winger and a #1-2 centre man they will start to light it up 5 on 5. All Carbo needs to do is have these guys practising how not to take penalties in the offseason.
April 8, 2007 at 2:40 pm
The Habs need an overhaul in the grit department.
I don’t think Carbonneau is a bad coach yet but he’s gotta get better and here’s rooting for him to get better! He needs to realize how to use the players better. It seems some will play for him (Komisarek, Bouillon, Higgins, Ryder, Johnson, Huet, Markov, Begin) and then there’s those he seems to not have in his corner (Koivu, Kovalev, Bonk, Souray, Perezhogin, Aebischer) and then there’s the ones that are too green to know any better (Latendresse, Lapierre, Halak).
Anyways, it’s all up to Bob Gainey and he believe he ain’t a happy camper at all.
Cheers gentlemen, I’ll pop in over the playoffs and off season to see who’s bitchin’ ’bout what but have a relaxing summer!
April 8, 2007 at 3:05 pm
Habs#1: You wouldn’t a real fan if they bit you in the ***!
It’s diluted fans like you, that are willing to settle, EVERY SINGLE YEAR, for mediocrity! And you’re happy if a bad team, so go screw yourself!
April 8, 2007 at 3:11 pm
For all you ISLANDER FANS: Brodeur is NOT playing today! Clemenson is!
Just got that from the MSG. GO ISLANDERS!
April 8, 2007 at 3:28 pm
Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Happy with a bad team? No.
But unlike you I’m willing to give a GM 5-6 years for the fruits of his labour to show, especially when he takes over an organiztion with nothing there. There’s one thing the Habs need more then a superstar centre: STABILITY!
Think of it like a government, if you’re changing it every 2 years you’ll never get anything done cause you’re constantly starting over.
I’ll give Gainey and Carbo till 2009-2010 for the Habs to be tops in the East. If they aren’t by then I’ll start calling for there heads.
Wanting a winner is one thing, being irrational and thinking with your heart instead of your head is another.
And if anyone ever diffends Kovalev and still wants him on the team should go cheer for the Leafs.
April 8, 2007 at 3:34 pm
I’m pretty disappointed. My own son (7 yrs old) was cheering for the Leafs. It took me everything to stay calm, not swear, or even tell my own kid to shut the #@%& up.
Wait till next. THat sucks. But, I hope there are changes. I’d love to see Ryan Smith or similar type player in a Habs uniform.
When will Patrick Roy get a kick at the can? At least he has winning experience and the balls to back up his words…
April 8, 2007 at 3:36 pm
Well, wityh Savard we won a stanley cup. Man, that was bad, wasn’t it?
Just because a team is rebuilding, doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be competitive.
And you don’t have to be a great team to make the playoffs.
I doubt Gainey will be any different from previous GM’s, but yes, let’s see who he drafts, and the trades he makes. If he does very little, like at the trade deadline, then I’ll know where we stand. We’re not asking for a champion in 2 years, but BE COMPETITVE AND MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!
April 8, 2007 at 4:38 pm
OH, did I tell you that my predection would come true.
Never doubt my predictions and wisdom people………
Kiovu was being interviewed after the game last night And he said the word F_UCKING. That was priceless……………..
I would like to thank this website, whom ever is in charge, for allowing me to voice my opinions. Thank you. I had a great time while I was here.
I would like to thank Carbo & Huet for their combined efforts to lose us a playoff birth. (I hope that Carbo & Huet are not with the team next year).
Maybe Gainey well chase after Patrick Roy for head coach. He has enough balls to bring us to the playoffs and we would not have to fight for 8th spot to make it either.
I hope that I did not offend any body with my truthful comments.
April 8, 2007 at 4:58 pm
The Habs won the cup with Serge Savard as their GM in 1993, Molson fired him, hired Houle.
Then they fired him and hired Andre Savard.
They are two different people.
Once the two Russians are gone this team will improve by leaps and bounds.
April 8, 2007 at 5:15 pm
All day today I just can’t get that 2nd goal out of my head.
I can’t understand how a pro NHL goalie can allow that kind of goal.
Seriously that piece of **** cost us a playoff spot.
That’s 2 years in a row Huet folded under pressure.
For Gods sake please don’t allow him to start anymore important games.
I’ve had enough of Huet and his “always on his knees” goaltending
HE STINKS! 6 f***’n goals. I repeat 6 f***’n goals. PATHETIC!
April 8, 2007 at 5:50 pm
When did he fold under pressure ever other then the 2nd goal last night? He couldn’t see the other 5 cause the D played their worst game of the season.
And he kept them in it last year against Carolina. The OT knockout went off a stick, and goalie’s are about timing. His was knocked off it went in.
He will be the Habs goalie next season. Halak will be the backup and Price will be the starter in Hamilton.
April 8, 2007 at 5:58 pm
You people aren’t going to believe the Islander game. they were leading 2-0, the NJ scored, and with .8 seconds to go, NJ tied it up! Un fucken believable!
Leafs must be the luckiest team. And the habs are the unluckiest!
April 8, 2007 at 6:15 pm
And now the consolation prize:
THE LEAFS ARE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sad, but we have to take solice in the fact that the Leafs didn’t make it and the Habs will have more cap room(once the two Russians go) and a better chance to improve this offseason.
Habs young players>Leafs young players
April 8, 2007 at 6:17 pm
The ISLES in a shootout won!
NANANA GOODBYE STUPID LEAFS! YOU’RE TOAST! Your win got you N O T H I N G!
LEAFS MISS PLAYOFFS FOR 2nd CONSECUTIVE YEAR! Hey leaf fans, how do you feel?
April 8, 2007 at 6:18 pm
THE ISLANDERS JUST MADE EVERYTHING SEEM A LITTLE BIT BETTER> THANKS NEW YORK!!!
April 8, 2007 at 6:27 pm
SANANANA, sucks to be blue and white,nananana GOOD- BYE-LAFFS…..OOOOOH–YEAH !!!JEEZE THAT WILL MAKE IT 41 YEARS,HA HA HA HA HA HA LOL HA HA LOL HA HA …………………..LOL……
April 8, 2007 at 6:42 pm
V_I_N_D_I_C_A_T_I_O_N_!!!!!!!! I LOVE IT!!
April 8, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Habs#1 great goalies don’t allow those kind of goals, period.
The guys on his knees more than a prostitute on young street.
As for the Stillman goal last year he was on his knees before the shot was even taken.
What a joke.
He will lose his starting job to Halak next year.
Speaking from a hockey goalies perspective his lateral movement stinks.
Young Halak’s got all the tools to be an excellent goalie in the NHL. Time will tell.
The next cup this team wins will be with Halak and Price not with that Huet c@#p.
Anyways no point in beating a dead horse, the seasons over. Have a great easter and summer.
See you all in a few months when it’s UFA signing time.
April 8, 2007 at 7:07 pm
April 8, 2007 at 7:10 pm
“Neither of these teams belong in the playoffs, in my opinion. Given their opposition, neither would survive one round.”
And neither of them will be. Justice is served.
Kudos to habs phan.
Incidentally, I wonder how many people were seriously injured jumping back on, and then back off the bandwagon during the second and third periods last night.
April 8, 2007 at 7:16 pm
Hey Habs blog: thanks for that! This is the first time I’ve laughed since last night. We really needed that. And thank you Islanders! their win took some of the sting out of our loss. I wish you could get that piece on TSN!
I want to show leaf fans what we think of them. Really, I couldn’t stop laughing! And next year Price WILL contend for the starting goalie position. If he doesn’t make it, at least he’ll be the backup!
Since we can’t be in there this year, I’m hoping VANCOUVER will do it!
April 8, 2007 at 8:04 pm
GO SENS GO!!!!!!1
April 8, 2007 at 9:34 pm
The players don’t get paid for the playoffs anyway. It is all gravy money for the owners…………..
The above statement is partially incorrect. For each playoff series, there is a winning dollar amount or pot and a losers dollar amount provided by the NHL.
Exactly who contributes to the fund is unknown to me; Is it only the playoff teams or the entire 30 teams contribute throughout the year?
But, the players are definately paid via the NHL playoffs share for each series. The later the series, the greater the amount and most likely, each players share is less than what they are paid during the season.
April 9, 2007 at 12:54 am
NOt only did the Leafs not make it but they cost another Canadian team from making it. CANT YOU DO ANYTHING RIGHT LEAFS. YOU HAVE SUCKED FOR A LONG TIME AND ALWAYS WILL. also if you cheer for a group of losers like that then you are a loser.
LEAFS 40 years and counting.
Time to get your reservations for 2017 for the 50th anniversary party. I heard all proceeds are going to the NYI fund.
April 9, 2007 at 7:04 am
R Habs…of course Price is going to “compete” for a spot with the Habs next season. Do you think they’d actually not give him an invite to training camp? That doesn’t mean he’ll get the job though.
Don’t get me wrong. I can’t wait until he’s our guy, but if he’s rushed, we might be shooting ourselves in the foot.
I still predict a Huet/Halak tandem season for 2007/08 and Price gets his shot in 2008/09 – or if H or H get injured next season.
April 9, 2007 at 5:33 pm
Take that you stupid, moronic Leaf fans. Leafs suck ****!! They will never win another Stanley Cup again. Even when they win, they seem to lose somehow. The Canadiens will kick their asses next season and will be cup contenders by 2008-2009. Believe me people, we will be a better team next season and the Leafs will still suck. Sure they got a small measure of revenge for beating us on the last day of the season, but that was because of the penalties that they won and the referees being in their back pocket. It won’t be like that all the time so the Leafs will suck again next season and won’t make the playoffs, again. Hey Laff fans, take your flukey win over us on Saturday and shove it up your ***. You guys did not deserve to win the game. We let it slip away and took our foot of the pedal when we had it against your throats. Laffs were LUCKY to win. Anyways, go screw yourselves, Laff fans!!
Ziman
April 9, 2007 at 8:01 pm
There’s a lot of hollering going on here – but let’s take a step back for a sec. Gainey ain’t going anywhere and neither is Carbo – don’t like the way he coaches becasue he alienates players .. you can’t bench a professional hockey player in today’s world becasue he made a mistake – they just make too much money for it to be a lesson – either way, Carbo is staying because of Gainey. Huet is starting with Halak backing up – Abby will walk. Souray is gone and so is Niinima (no big loss there). So we have left .. Markov (signs) Dandenault, Komi, Bouillion, Streit(for whatever reason) – maybe, Gorges gets more ice time and they pick up another D. Staying up front Ryder (even though Gainey hates him), Higgins (future), Pleks (future), Begin (because he is French and the penalty wasn’t his fault according to Carbo), Johnson, Lapierre (future according to Carbo), Latendresse (future so they say), Kostitsyn (future according to Gainey). Kovalev stays because nobody will pick him up, Perezhogin might go in a deal, Bonk probably goes, Koivu probably stays (only way he goes is if Gainey makes a blockbuster deal and he is not going to do that) – Samsonov hoes if there is a deal. So there is only room for one or two forwards – ie. Gainey tries againg to convince some big UFA to come to Montreal and play under Carbo who uses tactics that you would use in coaching your pee wee son’s league. If he gets a signing, that will not work out come Feb because the UFA will tire of the crappy systems by coaching staff. See you all same place, same time early next spring.
April 10, 2007 at 9:18 am
Didn’t I tell you? Didn’t I tell you that if Huet came back that Koivu would help nail the end of the season? The quartet have made a pact to destroy Gainey and Carboneau cause they are dogs!!! They treat their players like ****! Dandenault, Bouillon, all logged tons of ice time, were guilty in all of the goals. Huet let in nothing but soft goals, even rookies can’t make those types! Koivu of course turned a classic comeback and win chance into a loss yet one more time. What did not help was Begin getting all those penalties.
Definitely something needs to be done about Dandenault and Bouillon. Can’t say it enough. As for Koivu, like Souray that is taboo in Montreal I guess, as long as we have Koivu we will never get a cup. Its a tough choice to make. As long as we allow Huet to do his butterfly fall down, the whole NHL knows all they have to do is, hit him a few times, and then shoot high.
Everyone knows Dandenault and Bouillon can’t clear the puck out of Montreals end for trying, something needs to be done if we are to be winners next year.