Ribeiro’s Revenge?
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The Canadiens play the second half of a back to back weekend road games tonight in Dallas.
The first time in nearly four years the Canadiens visit Texas.
Mike Ribeiro’s who is having a very good season, will face his old team for the first time since being traded for a pylon last year.
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- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - Sure, the only player I'd say who is untradeable (meaning I wouldn't trade no matter what) is Carey Price. You build a winning team from the net out, and I don't think there's a better goalie for his age in the NHL than Price, so I wouldn't trade him. Otherwise, every player would be open for offers, but for PK Subban, it would take (for me) an already established star, like Carter or Crosby or Ovechkin. As much as I like Ovechkin, I'm not sure he could handle all the media pre
- goalie : I'm not suggesting at all that we judst dump or get rid of PK. I do however believe that he is a very valued commodity in the NHL adn that the Habs will receive offers for his services. If someone ffers us young, strong, puck handling forwards who can score, I think the Habs have to look at that possible trade.
- Avatar37 : Agreed. It would be a big mistake to trade PK just to move up 2 spots in the draft. PK, Emelin, and Gorges are the bright future of our defense.
- Senet1 : I am with you Avatar, Subban stays, it is not often that you get a stud defenceman who can play 25+ minutes. The mistakes he makes are for the most part not that serious and people forget he is only 23 and been in the league 2 years. He has come a long way in those two years. He has offense, defence and he hits. You cannot bet much better than that. Two more years experience and he has a shot at the Norris. If Markov does anything I hope he teaches PK how to work the PP.
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- Avatar37 : round exit. Heck, even the year they won the cup we almost took them out in round 1. I believe in the corps of this team, I really think we just need a few tweaks. Adding Larry Robinson to run the defense would be a BIG help, keep Cunneyworth as offensive coach, and get a head coach who can get these guys back on the right path. We need to establish an identity again, a team that won't let itself be pushed around like it was under Martin. A few scrappers on this team and we'll be good to
- Avatar37 : Yeah, the only way I'd trade PK is if we were getting an established star in return, like Carter or Crosby. I don't think we're miles away from competing deep into the playoffs, the NHL has become so competitive because of the salary cap that really there aren't huge differences between the teams. Add into the equation the stupid scoring system (some games worth 2 points, some 3) that the standings don't truly reflect where teams should really be. Look at Boston, cup winners to first rou
- Senet1 : It would have to be something pretty special before I would trade PK. To me he is the #1 building block of our defence. I would trade any other defenceman we have before I would trade PK.
- Senet1 : An improvement in our offense and strengthening our defence. Personally, I do not think we are that far off, five players at best could get us there. One thing that has always been true about the playoffs, Defence wins and you need a strong 3rd and 4th line.
- goalie : I'm more optimistic now about the Habs than I have been for the past three dreadfully long seasons!
- goalie : 2: I think GM Bergevin will make somewhat of a 'blockbuster't rade either before or on the day of the draft adn I believe PK Subban will be in that package. WE have t rememebr we have to give away some talent to get back other talent. No one wants players like Moen to move up in the draft etc.
- goalie : Some thoughts:The more I see the playoffs it becomes even more obvious that we're miles away from being able to 'compete' dep into the playoffs
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- Senet1 : Young Subban might also be an option if the Russian goalie is not available. However, to me I would wait another year and attempt to use my draft 2nd round draft picks to improve out forward situation.
- Senet1 : Although Rinne contact is another example of long term at the wrong time. He is 29 years old. A case could be made with Price that double his money now with bonuses if we win the cup, I think that is still allowed in contracts?
- Senet1 : Problem is he is going to want Pekka Rinne money and term. That is closer to 7M. On the other hand, the contract could have step up clauses in it over the 7 years.
- Avatar37 : With Price, I wouldn't blink twice about offering him a 7 year contract now, especially if he'd be willing to give up dollar value for length. 7 years at $5.5 million a year would be just fine in my book.
- Avatar37 : I think the goaltending void in our current system would push me to draft Vasilevski with our second pick, if he was available. He's young and has lots of potential, but is at least 5-6 years away from starting to be ready to play on an NHL roster.
- Senet1 : Long tern contracts are a risk, but if you have a super star not as much. Luongo's contract was long term but signed too late in his career.
- Avatar37 : Senet - Yes, you were clear in your post, my question was directed at goalie. I'm with you in that I'd be willing to sign him to a 7 year contract. I'd be nervous about anything longer, because every single long term goalie contract I can think of turned out to be a disaster for the team signing it.
- Senet1 : I think that Budaj is a better goalie than many give him credit for, is he a Price no but with a tight defence he could be a good goalie. Many teams have average goalies but have great defence and still win. Look at Detroit, for years they have had average goaltending, but won cups. Goalies can get on a roll in the playoffs, look at Huet as an example, he was not really a good goalie but played great in the playoffs, next year he was a wash. Defence makes the goalie a winner, just ask Price.
- Senet1 : Having a young equivalent goalie in the system right now is not important, three years from now it will be, so we have three years to make that kind of move in the draft. I think we have more pressing needs aat the moment.
- Senet1 : Personally, I do not see this as a negative because of Price's age, you wait to draft a goalie of a Patrick Roy or Brodeur some teams wait a life time. To me we have on so why would we want to not play that out for as long as we can. Bottom line is this, regardless, right now you have a stud goalie, you are either going to pay him the money he deserves for not sign him and lose him. There is no middle of the road here.
- goalie : Avatar made a great point. We don't have an NHL or up adn coming NHL goalies in our system. Another great move by Gauthier. Price is sitting very pretty.
- goalie : WEll Price has us by the nads. I guess I'd have to go as far as a 7 year contract due to his play adn his age.
- Senet1 : Luongo is now 33, he has been a good goaltender for a number of years. I would sign Price for 7 years and at age 31 then we deal with UFA at that time. Hopefully, we could provide him with another 5 years at that time. That is my opinion anyway, I would never risk losing him as a UFA at this point in his career to me that would be a very poor management decision. Even a 10 year contract would put him only at 34 years old. If you are going to sign him to long term now is the time.
- Senet1 : If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him a contract that is worthy of his abilities and his potential. It can have escalation clauses or reducing clauses like Kovalchuk's contract.
- Senet1 : Avatar, I thought I was clear Yes I would sign him long term. My previous post said. The problem is if you have a out in the contract after 5 years then the player also has an out after 5 years. So no self respected lawyer would accept a contract that did not have equal escape clauses. So no I would not sign only for 5 years, if Price was 28 years old yes but not a 24. Seven years still only makes him 31 when the contract is over. If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him
- Avatar37 : Cammalleri trade. Given the fact that we have no NHL starting quality goaltenders in the system currently, aren't we held hostage to having to sign Price?
- Avatar37 : There are many bad goalie contracts, just look at Huet. However, your post didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with Price. He's an RFA now, but for argument sake, if he were a UFA, what would you do? If he wanted a 7+ year contract, you know some other team would give him one. Would you risk losing him for nothing because you didn't want to sign a contract over 5 years? And if we lose Price, our goalies are Budaj and Robert Mayer, as we sent Karri Ramo to the Flames in the Cam
- goalie : .. a 5 years contract again based upon the experience he has had AND he likes Bobby Lou!
- goalie : Ditto for Philly, Ther goaltender 'situations' have both become the number 1 story line for both teams, and in Vancouver one could see the exaspiration on Gillis' adn to some extent Vigneault's faces when continously being bombarded by the loooong term contract that the Canucks are stuct with. (Gillis even said last February or so, thank goodness it looks like more than few other teams will be looking for a starting goaltender for 2012-13. He said he would never again do more than a 5 year c
- goalie : I've spent the past four winters in BC thus I am very aware of the Canucks situations. I'd first say I give Gillis adn Vigneault 100% credit for being VERY supportive of Roberto L. even when Corey Schenider has vastly out played him. (I too like Bobby Lou but facts are facts).
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December 23, 2007 at 7:00 pm
Gainey’s biggest screw-up,we sure could use his services now.But it did help me spell Niniimaa? Hey Ribs please take it easy on your old club,after all, they developed you for THE STARS. Maybe we can get Ribs for Ryder,lol?
December 23, 2007 at 9:52 pm
If We ever got a star It would probably be Gaineys son in law Brendan Morrow. And guess what guys,we lost again.
December 23, 2007 at 9:58 pm
already down 2-0 after only 1st period. Habs didn’t show up, AGAIN! Wow did Gainey really screw up. traded Ribeiro, who’s leading Dalas in points, for a has been over the hill player. No wonder Gainey can’t make a decent trade, or sign a decent player. Guess that’s why he never makes tradesany more. they all blow up in his face! It seems every game recently, we’re totally dominated by our opposition, and look bad.
December 23, 2007 at 9:59 pm
sorry for the mispelling. But I’m sure you get the jest of my comments.
December 23, 2007 at 10:00 pm
let’s not get all up in arms about Gainey trading Ribeiro, pretty much everybody wanted to chase him out of town after all those screw ups in the Carolina series.
December 23, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Patrick,speak for yourself dude!
December 23, 2007 at 10:21 pm
I agree with Patrick. Many (I’m not saying all) were calling for a trade involving Ribeiro.
Anyway, isn’t this day that the HAbs have lost many times in a row, dating back to the 90′s?
The Habs are okay. Disappointing at times, a little too often but I’ll still cheer for them. I ain’t jumping on the band wagon or getting off when they start losing. My opinion of them doesn’t change from game to game.
DOes anyone know if Gainey tried to resign last yr and Gilette begged him to stay? Has anyone heard this one?
GO HAbs go!
December 23, 2007 at 10:32 pm
Ya, it was after trying to make Niniimaa?a power forward,lol
December 23, 2007 at 10:32 pm
Hey Latelentless
Skick on the ice in front of the net..
Get him off the ice on power plays..
What do they see in this guy!!! Pathetic
December 23, 2007 at 10:50 pm
RDS interviewed Muller between the 2nd and 3rd period, and asked Muller why the habs look so terrible tonight. And they do! they’re not even in this game. You know that great road record we have? well, by the end of this road trip, we’ll be at only 500. and our PP isn’t #1 anymore,and sliding fast, our defence is non existent, our offence, well there isn’t any,and well look simply awful! we’re playing like we want to finish in the cellar. Why am I saying we? I don’t play for this team, and who would want to?
December 23, 2007 at 10:52 pm
habs mojo,your not trying to blame one Hab for this **** effort are you?You do know this is a team sport and requires team effort?Have you seen that by our Habs team yet?Didn’t think so!!!
December 23, 2007 at 10:56 pm
Wow, whoever traded Ribs is a pilon,OUCH!!!!
December 23, 2007 at 11:04 pm
that’s Gainey! so Hamrshit just gave a gift goal to Ribeiro, who has 3 points so far tonight. Can we trade Carbo, Gainey, and the entire habs team, to anyone who wants garbage? So how do you spell relief? geting rid of every single habs player, coach, GM, president,scout, and owner!
December 23, 2007 at 11:34 pm
Ribs got the last laugh……
Good for him.
Bad for Price.
December 23, 2007 at 11:44 pm
Price looked soft
Koivu looked soft
Latendresse looked out of place
We need some toughness on this team.. Grrrrrrrrrrrr
December 24, 2007 at 12:23 am
we just plain look like an AHL team playing an NHL team! we don’t compete, and we NEVER play for 60 minutes! Of course the way we played tonight, we couldn’t even beat a junior B team!
December 24, 2007 at 3:24 am
Are you really a Habs fan? ha ha…no seriously?
December 24, 2007 at 3:29 am
Carbo has the unique ability to destroy a player.Ryder is a prime example-he has lost all his confidence.Now the goalies-by the end of the year by Carbo’s unique ability to make players lose confidence-I predict both goalies will suck.We will have 2 number 2 goalies.Great coaches like Vince Lombardi NEVER publicly humiliated a player which Carbo does often-you keep it in the dressing room.The proof of how he has lost this team waqs the 2nd of last game in New York last year,and the Toronto (last) game.It was Carbo’s fault they didn’t make the play offs and they won’t again.Carbo is mentally offensively Challenged.Great coaches make their players better.He make sthem worse.But don’t worry we have “einstein” Gainey in the GM’s office;lets see trade a young up and comer like Ribero for a washed up has been like Ninima-yea that’s the ticket!Bob duh! Gainey manages like he played,up and down the wing with no creativity at all;he is clueless.Canadiens will be 14th by year end-worse than last year.
December 24, 2007 at 4:31 am
Dude of course it’s a team effort.. Duh
It was comment during the game..
December 24, 2007 at 2:37 pm
I’m a guy who wouldn’t want to see Mike Rebeiro back with the Habs even if he scored 100 goals this year with Dallas. Rebeiro in Montreal was a self-centred player who cared only about getting a better contract, not about his team. He was rumoured to be the leader of one of the cliques that divided the team, and I saw with my own eyes on TV one night, with the Habs down by a goal against Pittsburgh and with the microphone on, he skated up to Sidney Crosby with a big smile on his face and asked if he could have his stick. It was right then that I wanted this jerk gone.
December 24, 2007 at 4:29 pm
that jerk leads his team in scoring including 20 goals. Is there anyone on the habs that has 20 goals, or even close to it? The reason players leave here, and do so well elsewhere,is: the pressure here from the media, lousy teams here, and the coache’s inability to both communicate and teach players how to play, and win. Let’s see… Leclair couldn’t do it here,Ribeiro, Tucker,Samsonov,and the list goes on and on. What bothers me, is players that we could have drafted, and didn’t, and have since become great players elsewhere. It’s just unbelievable that wasted and poor scouting.
Excellent scouting is the difference between Montreal and Ottawa!
December 24, 2007 at 5:51 pm
Samsonov was finished before he even put the Habs jersey on. That was just a mistake pick up by management. Tucker didn’t exactly break out by going to Toronto, he just carried on the way he’d been playing in Montreal, no more, no less. Leclair for sure broke out when he left, and maybe Rebeiro got into the right clique in Dallas and is also using one of his precious Crosby sticks. And maybe Dallas is paying him more than he’s worth and so he’s really happy because it’s only about the money, baby.
December 24, 2007 at 6:44 pm
Gainey just dropped the ball, plain and simple.
December 24, 2007 at 9:27 pm
At this point Gainey ,Carbo and the rest of the coaching staff and WOOOOOHH,lETS NO FORGET GILLETT have created a new OLYMPIC ball dropping event,lol and are officially off my christmas card list,lol.And don’t even bring up that overstuffed ,overrated ,GOOGLYEYED,baseball cast-off YOOPEE either!!!
December 25, 2007 at 1:20 am
Merry Xmas fellow hab fans, and Happy New Year! Let’s hope that 2008 is a better year for the habs,than 2007 was! Well, we can dream, can’t we?
December 25, 2007 at 5:51 pm
Yeah, I can’t wait fot the Habs to put a little winning streak together next year so we can have a break from the negative postings of all the Hab Haters out there (like you). Newsflash this is the age of mediocrity, obviously not comprehended on this site most of the time (between those who swear Huet/Koivu/Gainey = antichrist, and those who say things like, if only we had Ovenchkin and Lecavalier then we’d beat everyone). Just look to the standings for a clue, there’s Ottawa, Washington, and then everyone in between, all of whom (including OTT and WASH) will put together a winning or losing streak once in a while. This is salary cap hockey.
December 25, 2007 at 11:30 pm
Patrick: the only one who posts negative comments, is YOU, and you criticize every single habs blogger! We’re entitled to our opinions, and if we all agree on something, then it must be true.
Well, I did wish all fellow hab bloggers a merry xmas and happy new year, EXCEPT YOU!
December 26, 2007 at 12:00 am
block him until 2010…
December 26, 2007 at 3:56 am
ha ha ha, I was going to cut and paste your posts but what’s the point? go back and read them for yourself. Look I honestly think you love to hate the habs. I’m not trying to antagonize you here, I’m just saying step back for a minute and remember that his is a hockey team that YOU actually cheer for.
ps I don’t criticize every habs blogger, and there does not seem to be a consensus that the habs suck.
December 26, 2007 at 1:20 pm
You are the ONLY one criticizing me, so back off, and let us speak our peace, even if you don’t agree. A blog is a website for hab fans to view their opinions, and there is no such concepts as right or wrong, just differences of opinion. If I weren’t a habs fan, I wouldn’t get so frustrated when they lose. Hab fans get upset when their team loses, because that is the definition of a TRUE FAN! Guess you’re not!
December 26, 2007 at 1:26 pm
Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year to all of the Habs Fans everywhere.
Lets put all of our differnces behind us in the new year. Let bigones be bigones.
Let’s hope that the New Year will be Montreal’s year.
We always love our Children and you love them more when they are bad.
Lets love our Habs in good times and love them even more when they are bad.
God Bless us. Every one.
December 26, 2007 at 2:12 pm
Jason Blake, 21 pts in 35 games, is ahead of Kovalev on the All-Star ballot. Democracy at work. Why do fans choose the All-Star teams? That’s a huge disadvantage to the top notch players on small market teams. In any case, I don’t want to see a bunch of average NHL players on the all-star team, so let’s get some more votes together for Kovalev.
December 27, 2007 at 11:03 am
Gainy should make every effort to sign alex ovechkin. Build a team around him
Montreal has not had a super star since lefleur.Even if 3 or 4 good players are given up it would be worth it for the future of this team
January 15, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Everyone seems to be getting on Gainey’s case for the Ribeiro trade. Fact is he wasn’t producing up to their expectations and i don’t think he could handle the pressure in Montreal. Plus if it wasn’t for the new NHL he probably wouldn’t be doing that great. Look at what Gainey has done. He trade for Kovalev for which i might add is playing really well this year. He signed Markov to a long term contract. And also signed Hamirlik which is a great defensive improvement on Sourray. Sourray is hurt this year. Gainey even tried to sign him but he wanted to move back home. He drafted Price with the 5th overall draft pick. He traded Rivet and got a first round draft pick out of it and cleared some cap space. As for the Samsonov signing, he traded him in the off season, and bought out the 2 marginal players he received. Look at what he did in Dallas as a GM. He won the cup, i think the fans need patience, they have a great young team, they just need a few years to mesh.
February 21, 2008 at 3:58 pm
I am so sick of hearing all about how well the Canadiens are doing this year. I am so sick of this team playing all home games in the month of March for the 11th or 12th season in a row. This team never seems to have an extended road trip of any description and if and when they do it falls during the Christmas Holiday season so they get a break in between. It would be interesting to see what this overachieving team would do if they had to play like the rest of the teams in the NHL. Ottawa is now heading into a stretch where they play 6 games in 9 days…poor little Canadiens never, ever have to do this.
Of course you have the best powerplay in the league; it is because your team is constantly on the power play when you are losing. You can predict with great accuracy that if this team is down with 5 minutes left in the third period that at least one man for the other team is in the box. This is a sure fire bet; don’t believe me watch for yourself. There is always a cheap penalty called near the end of every game when this team is losing.
I am sick of the favourtism this team gets by the NHL…team rarely plays back to back, rarely on Sundays and never more than 2 or 3 games in a week. The problem is that the Canadiens are in a french province where everyone thinks that they deserve favourtism because of the language issues. I don’t even consider this team a Canadian team because if Quebec had it’s way they would be their own country. One may say that this is not how the club feels but that is not true. Your team will choose a player if he has a french name over anyone else. You used to have the pick of all the french players in the 50′s and 60′s…no wonder you won so many cups. You will pick a dumb french coach over one that is English and has more skill. Your star players Kovalev and Koivu both spoke out this year about the favourtism given to the French players…it is not just me thinking this way when you have your stars speaking out about this. No wonder Sheldon Souray couldn’t wait to get the hell out of little France!
I am so fed up with all the favourtism that I don’t even enjoy watching hockey any more. I can feel yet another very undeserved Stanley Cup being awarded to a team that should be in the basement of the standings. When and if the NHL ever evens up the score then we will all see how bad this team really is.
I have had enough of this team and this league.
Number One hab hater on the face of the earth. On that famous New Year’s eve game againt the Russians in 1976 I was going for the Russians! That should tell all of you how much I despise this team, the language and what they represent. Good thing Carbaneau is a good whiner…it is what he has always done best.