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Round 2: Habs & Flyers

  • Initial thoughts?

    First thing that comes to mind….regular season record.

    The Canadiens 4-0. Undefeated against the Flyers.

    Deja vu?

  1. Playoffs are different beast my Montreal friend. Canadiens will have one more day of rest plus they aren’t traveling anywhere. Meanwhile, the Flyers have to leave for Montreal as early as tonight and prepare for Game 1 on Thursday. That is a hectic schedule. I see a Montreal win (perhaps easy win) on Thursday but the 2nd game will be a different story as Flyers will regain some legs by that point.

  2. #2 habs4life says:
    April 22, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Don’t get fooled by the so-called stats or data, please, especially to the rookie (to playoff)coach Carbo. Never repeat the same stupid mistake encore.

    Just play like Habs!!!

  3. #3 duckdoc says:
    April 22, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    I can still hear Hextall banging his stick against the goalposts in the Forum, in 1987, the night the Flyers eliminated the Habs from the playoffs.
    I can see Hound Dog Kelly and Schultz beating up on our guys, embarassing the whole Canadien nation and getting away with it.
    IT’S PAYBACK TIME, time to put THE HURT on the Flyers.
    Let’s go out and kick some ass Thursday night.

  4. #4 Don Carnage says:
    April 22, 2008 at 10:51 pm


  5. #5 rhabs4real says:
    April 22, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    I hope Carbo doesn’t think it’s going to be easy, because we beat them in every meeting during the regular season. Carbo: remember Boston regular season. Don’t make the same mistake. Please no over confidence! This is a new season. Forget what you did during the regular season. doesn’t count now!
    I think the boston series was a wake up call and good learning experience,especially for the younger players. Considering that Philly likes to hit, I would definitely insert O’Byrne instead of Breezer, and also take out Dandy and put in Stewart.

  6. #6 Red Deer Canadien says:
    April 22, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    I’am just going to enjoy watching the Habs play in the second round.. something we all haven’t been able to do for some time.
    Go HABS GO

  7. #7 Andrew says:
    April 22, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    rhabs4real…are you on drugs? Brisebois has been one of our best players (1G 4A) and you want to take him out for a rookie? O’Byrne is good but we have enough young guys on the ice as it is. If you’re going to take out Dandy, why not put Ryder back in instead of Stewart. Stewart has 1 NHL game under his belt and you want him to play?

  8. #8 Chris Redman says:
    April 22, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    Big congrats to Carbo and the boys on a well-played first round; I have high hopes for round two.


  9. #9 duckdoc says:
    April 23, 2008 at 1:14 am

    Roses are red
    Violets are blue
    Habs in 5
    Who cares if it rhymes?

  10. This is going to be a killer physical series and we have to play our bigger ,younger players”O’bryne,Lats and Stewart etc.Now knowing Carbo,that’s not what he’s going to do,he’s going to go for speed.And that will probably work in game one but as Philly pounds at the Habs and adapts like Boston did we ‘re goina have to toughen up,bigtime. GO HABS GO….

  11. #11 Joseph says:
    April 23, 2008 at 1:37 am

    Washington almost beat them with speed and skill. In fact, they were an OT goal away from doing so.

    Anyway, I don’t think that the Habs will make the same mistake twice. They took the Bruins for granted a little, and hopefully they learned something from that near tragedy.

  12. But here’s the thing Joseph,Washington had the best player in hockey to make it O so close,the Habs don’t,not to mention the Caps were the hottest team going into the play-off’s,scorching,plus allmost does not count,lol.

  13. #13 Fat Jack says:
    April 23, 2008 at 6:54 am

    Jack From St. Louis here,
    Your coach is one of the best to ever represent the Blue Note. I’m a fan of his moves and the way his players have handled them.

    Only team left from the CA and you guys will represent all the way to the cup….. “no worries at all”

    Canadiens all the way.. bet the farm on it.

  14. #14 DieHard Habs Fan says:
    April 23, 2008 at 8:13 am

    I agree with post #5. The last sentence is Questionable?

    Washington did come close BUT they had “Huet Who”! Montreal has Mr. Carey “The Ice” Price. Big differnce!!!

    I really felt bad for Huet last night my heart went out to him. I seen and felt the disappiontment in his face has he skated to his bench. He is a great person and Good Goaltender. But not a Great Goaltender.

    On the Ryder thing. Something happend to him during the summer maybe. His game was really off this season. Carbo in my opinion should have gave him a chance to redeem himself like Carbo did for Kovalev. I don’t remember Kovalev ever being benched one game last year? How can Ryder get going in this years playoffs only playing 6-8 mins. a game? He needs to have his regular shifts/time and put him back on the PP. That will be the only way to get him out of his slump. More time, not less time.

    Last year against the Leafs, the Biggest game of the year (the last game of the year we needed a win to make the playoffs)Ryder scored 3 goals. He came through in a must wim game (he done more than his share to win) It would have been pretty Shitty not to have signed him to one more year right.

    The biggest game of the year again, game 7 vs Boston. What if Ryder would have played and got a goal or two or maybe three. UMMMMM. Carbo would have not looked to good right, keepping Ryder out of the lineup. YES, Julien benched was-is-name and he came back on fire scored a few but Julien does not have a ego like Carbo, so Julein don’t care to be proven wrong, he wan’t to be proven wrong. But Carbo does not want to be prove wrong. It has been said by former coaches that Carbonneu is stick headed and Stubborn and former players called him Arrogant and cockey. Carbo thought that he diserved better than the rest. He was pissed off cause he was on the fourth line when he started with Montreal. he felt he deserved to be on the top line.

    This whole Ryder thing comes down to Carbonneu’s EGO and STUUBORNESS.

    I’m not bashing Carbo. Just merely stating my opinion on the Ryder situation…..

    GO HAB GO !!!!!!!

  15. #15 rgillis says:
    April 23, 2008 at 10:03 am

    This is going to be a tough series with the say that Philly is playing right now. The one key to our winning is our PP, we have to get that going. We looked great in game 7, let’s keep that up going into the next series.

    We will win in 6 by the way. I have no doubt about it.

  16. #16 rhabs4real says:
    April 23, 2008 at 10:23 am

    Andrew: are you on drugs? Philly is a physical team. you don’t put in a soft player ,like Breezer(who has coughed up the puck alot in the last game), when you can put in a big body like O’Byrne, who played very well in game 4. remember we got a shutout? And you must really be nuts if you want Ryder, who has done absolutely NOTHING in this series! c’mon use your brain. We need the best lineup to win.

  17. duckdoc:
    ‘Roses are red
    Violets are blue
    Habs in 5
    Who cares if it rhymes?’

    lol, I’m going to use that!

  18. #18 DieHard Habs Fan says:
    April 23, 2008 at 11:16 am

    “Ryder, who has done absolutely NOTHING”.

    Yeah, I remember a certain somebody last year like that too. But he redeemed himself. But he did not get less icetime either as Ryder has got this year.

    Breezer has sucked and sucked. He gives the puck away 10 times every game but he scores one goal and a couple of assist and he he great all of a sudden.

    People in here need to wake up.

  19. #19 Joseph says:
    April 23, 2008 at 11:31 am

    Xtrahabsfan, Ovechkin was contained for 5 2/3 games, until the third period of Game 6. It was Semin and Backstrom that were keeping the Capitals in it.

    Anyway, Philly’s defense is there to be exploited. The Habs will just need to attack and they’ll be fine.

  20. #20 duckdoc says:
    April 23, 2008 at 11:43 am

    Joseph, post #18,
    Totally agree with you.
    With our counterpunch style, we ought to see a whole lot of 3 on 2, 2 on 1, or even better,breakaways.
    Let’s hope Carbo has the guys brushing up their shootout skills.
    Finally, Price is like an early Christmas present!

  21. Joseph,how many Flyer’s did it take to shut down Ovechkin?I think we are in for a rough ride fans and as stubborn as Carbo can get,there is to much money’s the owners “Gillet” will lose in a second round knock-out,so you can bet Gainey will direct Carbo to fielding a bigger,tougher team at the hint of trouble.

  22. #22 FlyersFan says:
    April 23, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    I’m real excited… I got my ticket to game 1 in Montreal! I’m coming from Philly. But I’m a bit concerned. The temp here in Philadelphia is 72 degrees and I see in Montreal it’s a cold 22! Is it really that cold???

  23. #23 DieHard Habs Fan says:
    April 23, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    Don’t worry my Flyers friend.

    The temp at the Bell Centre will be hotter than HELL!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. #24 duckdoc says:
    April 23, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    Flyers Fan,
    I got some really good news for you. As soon as you cross the Canadian border you’ll find the temperature at least 34 degrees warmer.
    You’re sure to have a good time here. Also, you won’t have to worry about going for a walk late at night, especially downtown.
    Welcome, and you’ll quickly notice that Montreal is also a city of “brotherly love”.

  25. #25 Adriana Fagano says:
    April 23, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    I was hoping we would lose to Boston so Gainey would address our needs for a dominant center and power foward. Now, if we lose to Philly we still may obtain whats needed to be a legit contender.

  26. #26 rhabs4real says:
    April 23, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    Flyers fan: you’re thinking metric temps. 22= 71 F.
    we’re every bit as warm as Philly, but our team is hotter!
    I lived a short period of time, in Conshohocken, PA. Used to drive to Atlantic City, close by, and down to the old Spectrum on Broad St.
    good luck buddy. hope you enjoy our ambience and cuisine.

  27. I’m going with with Habs in 5. They should smoke the Flyers tomorrow night, and they’ll ride that momentum into game 2 and get them there as well. Game 3 I think will go to the Flyers, but Games 4 and 5 will be all Habs.

  28. #28 DieHard Habs Fan says:
    April 23, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    Are U a mental Fag………….

  29. Habs in 4. I think that once its 2-0 montreal will really try the next 4 games because montreal wont want to repeat game 7

  30. Ovechkin almost beat Philly by himself. I watched the game and imagined where players like kovalev and koivu like playing and I saw so many empty spaces and It’s going to be easy to score goals. Boston played us really good, It’s not that the habs suck, It’s that boston played fantastic. If Boston would have played Philly it would have been 4-0 with out a doubt. Montreal in 4!

  31. #32 DieHard Habs Fan says:
    April 23, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    Sergei Kostitsyn drives a Porshe. Not bad for a Rookie. I hope the Fans did not dent or scratch it when they crowded around when he left the Bell Centre him like the lunatics they are…

  32. #33 marklovesthehabs says:
    April 23, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Flyers Fan-that’s 22 Celsuius or 72 Fahrenheit. Same as Philly.
    Enjoy Montreal but Habs will win the series.
    I’d like to see Ryder back in the line-up.

  33. #34 DieHard Habs Fan says:
    April 23, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    Hell Yeah………….

  34. #35 duckdoc says:
    April 23, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    get back in the kitchen where you belong!

  35. #36 Scotty says:
    April 23, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Ditto. I remember Ryder was benched before the game we came back from 5-0 against NY and Ryder notched two goals and at least one assist. Also look how Roenick and Kessel played their respective last games in their series after being benched. I think Ryder would be an asset.

  36. #37 habs4life says:
    April 23, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    DieHard Habs Fan, try to come to the reality that Ryder would be on longer the needed block in Habs LEGO. Help yourself and choose a new player to be falling in love.

  37. One thing the Canadiens cannot do is repeat the same mistakes they made in round one and almost lost. They cannot underestimate the Flyers. Remember Montreal had an 8-0 record against the Bruins and were almost upset. They had a 4-0 record against the Flyers as well so they cannot underestimate them at all. The playoffs ARE A NEW SEASON!! Forget what happened in the regular season. Don’t make the same mistakes twice and get overconfident. If Montreal plays the way they did in game 1 and game 7 of the Bruins series, they will win, but if they play like they did from game 2 to game 6, then they will be in a world of trouble. I really hope the Canadiens have learned from round one and are better prepared for the Flyers! Go Habs Go!!


  38. #39 habs4life says:
    April 23, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    Some words on round 2 with Flyers:

    1. Philly’s power play was extremely powerful in playoff (they were ranking 2nd after Habs in regular season from my last memory). Steve Begin style blocking is highly needed (that’s the reason he was the third star in Game 7). Habs, pay much attention on their power plays!!!

    2. Philly players need to be specially TAKEN CARE OF: Briere and Carter.

    3. Habs luckily had good timing on recovery of injured players: healty team at the RIGHT TIME!

    4. Winning factors: Guy Carbonneau, depending on the TONE he set for the games; Carey Price!

    5. Prediction: If Carbo was OK to physical play, round 2 would be ended in game 4; if Carbo wanted to keep a healthy roster, game 5, maximum game 6; game 7 never happen with Philly!!!

  39. #40 DieHard Habs Fan says:
    April 23, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    I Love Mr. Price. A lot

  40. #41 Senet 1 says:
    April 23, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    duckdoc, I think you have the wrong era Kelly and Shulz were in the 70’s and Robinson kicked both their asses and we won the cup 76-79. YOu got it right about Hextall though, I can still see him going across the ice and slashing chelios.

  41. #42 habs4life says:
    April 23, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    About the booing on US anthem in Bell Centre (honestly I even didn’t hear it before TV), it’s only from a small group of silly fans. The background could be from the episode that a Habs fan was punched down and kicked on the face after Game 6 in Boston, and dirty racially insulting swear included, such as ‘you fxxx French…’

    The individual Boston’s fans’ action should be condemned, but booing on US anthem is totally acceptable. (least, how to show respect to Habs players from US, Komi, Higgins…?)

    Team990 hosts in their program proposed (at least themselves) to sing the US anthem in next game in Bell Centre to correct the less professional impression on professional Habs fans.

  42. #43 Senet 1 says:
    April 23, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    rhabs4real: Did you see Carbo’s press conference after the game 7, if not go to Habs web site and play it. I think it explains a lot about what and how carbo approached the Boston Series. An No he did not take Boston lightly, but I think some of his young players did and that is the danger of a young team, you cannot put everything on the Coach he can develop a game plan but if the players don’t play it it is difficult for the coach to get them thinking again, confidence is a difficult thing to harness and sometimes it takes a break going your way before you can get things turned around. Trust me Carbo is not taking Phily lightly either but that doesn’t mean that his players will not have let downs. Carbo has been there before and remember, it is not just Carbo who is coaching this team he has three other former great players also helping and talking to the players. YOU HAVE TO HAVE FAITH>>>>>>>>>>

  43. #44 habs4life says:
    April 23, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    If I were Bryan Murry, I would have prepared an offer to Kirk Muller as the Sens coach. Don’t know why, just sense Kirk will be a good NHL coach.

  44. #45 Senet 1 says:
    April 23, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    Andrew, I agree with you about Brisebois playing a good series, however, the 7th game he made some terrible passes and it reminded me of his previous play. I have never had a lot of faith in him as a defenceman but I will give him is due in the first round. As for Ryder he had his chance and blew it twice, I would bring Stewart in now in game one and see how he performs, rookies sometimes surprise you. If it is a close game in the third period though he would probably be sitting on the bench, however, I would see how he performs now before we get to a game seven. Ryder will get his chance if we play poorly if not he has seen his last ice.

    As far as Dandy is concerned it depends on whether Steit plays defence or forward, if he plays forward then I sit Dandy out if he plays defense then Dandy is in because we need that assurance if we get a defenceman injuried or 10 minute misconduct or something. Dandy is on the line to stablize Lappiere’s line and to provide the safe guard for the defence.

  45. Habs in 5 tops, this Flyers team doesn’t stand a chance.

  46. #47 Eddie says:
    April 23, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    This is gonna be an AWESOME series!! not just because I happen to like both teams…with my heart belonging mainly to the Flyers. However, if there was any team in the East that I would have us fall to in the playoffs the Habs are it! Huge respect for the Habs and I hope this series blows the others out of the water ratings-wise.

  47. #48 duckdoc says:
    April 23, 2008 at 7:01 pm

    Senet 1,
    Thanks for setting me straight about Schultz and Kelly and the 70’s. That was the decade I had a really mean dealer, and unbeknownst to me, I dropped some really bad acid. Guess some of my flashbacks are out of sync in time.

  48. #49 duckdoc says:
    April 23, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    My pick for star of the CH-Philly series, # 32 of the Habs.
    Nobody makes the breakout pass like Streit, and it will be a sight for sore eyes when we turn on our speed and score on breakaways.

  49. #50 Senet 1 says:
    April 23, 2008 at 8:01 pm

    DieHard Habs Fan: #15

    On the Ryder thing. Something happend to him during the summer maybe. His game was really off this season. Carbo in my opinion should have gave him a chance to redeem himself like Carbo did for Kovalev. How can Ryder get going in this years playoffs only playing 6-8 mins. a game? He needs to have his regular shifts/time and put him back on the PP. That will be the only way to get him out of his slump. More time, not less time.

    Well I sorry but I have to disagree, Ryder came out and played a good first game then he stopped skating, stopped hitting and his overall game went down, he sat a game and was given the opportunity to show he wanted to be on the team, it should not matter if you play 4 minutes or 24 minutes a player need to give everything he has with the time he gets on the ice. Carbo was not just looking to see if he would score in those 6-8 minutes he played he was looking to see if he was willing to give the effort AND HE DIDN’T GIVE IT!!! Therefore, he was benched again. Lats was given the opportunity as well and he did not make use of it. A coach wants to see effort not just scoring, Carbo realized Ryder was starting to play better the last montha and half of the season, so why did he stop doing what he was doing. Either he was injuried or he was not willing to put an effort into staying on the team.

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