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Saku Koivu’s 500th Point

  • Tonight may be the night where Saku Koivu reaches the 500 point plateau.

    Koivu is one point shy of the accomplishment. You wonder how many points Koivu would have had he not had so many setbacks in his career. It’ll be nice to see him get it tonight but would be even nicer on home ice.

    The Canadiens are in Washington where they won recently and the Capitals are slumping with 5 straight losses.

    Teams like Ottawa are creeping up on Montreal and these are must win games to keep their position and hopefully gain ground on the Sabres.

    As it was last week, limit the chances of Ovechkin and there’s a strong chance to win.

    As long as the Canadiens keep winning for the most part, not much will change. But you wonder how much longer guys like Samsonov and Ryder will be allowed to underproduce.

    Ryder is in a bit of a slump. He’s been counted on as the main Canadiens goal scorer the past couple years so to see him not scoring as much as expected is noticeable and somewhat troubling. But nowhere near as troubling as Sergei Samsonov’s lack of production.

    It’s become painful to watch him on the ice and should he remain this consistent throughout the remainder of the year it’ll go down as one of the biggest busts in recent Habs history. I think it’s completely realistic that Aaron Downey or Garth Murray may finish with more goals than Samsonov. Playing about 2000 minutes less.

    Remember Sergei Berezin?

    I have visions of Samsonov spending George Gillete’s money on russian caviar while he and Berezin pass the Canadiens 10,000th goal puck back and forth.

64 Comments
  1. #1 hab-dab-a-do says:
    January 4, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    I think Ryder should wear the C

  2. #2 Mark LOVES the Habs says:
    January 4, 2007 at 3:41 pm

    Great minds think alike.
    i was thinking the exact same thing last week…that Samsonov reminded me exactly of Berezin with the Leafs. So good at skating and handling the puck without the results on the score sheet. Wow!

  3. Ryder is not going anyway as his recent sluggish play has hurt his trade value. Samsonov however would probably still have value caus eof his career accomplishments. Abby is respected but Murray would not even land a 6th rounder.

  4. #4 Habs#1 says:
    January 4, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    I’ve got a feeling that Gainey may trade for a big name d-man or 2nd line centre, not during the season, but during the offseason. If they lose Souray or Markov that will leave a huge hole on they’re blue line and the Habs will have a surplus of top 6 forwards next season. Ryder, Higgins, Koivu, Sammy, Kovy, maybe Pleks if they can’t get anyone better but I think he’ll replace Bonk on the 3rd line, Latendresse, and Kotstitsyn who’s been lighting it up since he got sent down and has led the Bulldogs from 15 points back to first in their division.

    So a big name d-man or centre may be coming in the offseason, and I’d think the centre piece might be Ryder(kind of like Lupul was in the Pronger deal) cause I just get the feeling that Gainey isn’t a big fan of his.

    Congrats to Saku!

  5. #5 kazmojo says:
    January 4, 2007 at 5:09 pm

    Ryder will snap out of it. While a little more pronounced this season, he’s gone through slumps before. But playing with Higgins and Koivu now he’ll find it hard not to score. He’s also one of the Habs few snipers, so I don’t think we can afford to lose him. On penalty shots he won’t try to deke the goalie, instead firing a quick wrister.

    Sammy though, has been frustrating. He hangs on to the puck too long and can’t dance around the opposition like Kovalev (who also hangs on too long). He does skate hard though and creates a fair number of chances. He just can’t bury them. I guess that’s a similar situation Ryder is in, but I’ve seen Ryder break out before. This is all new territory for Samsonov.

  6. The Canadiens need to look behind them because Ottawa is only 5 points behind, although we do have a couple of games in hand. The next two games are games they should be able to win against teams that are talented, but can be beaten like the Capitals and Rangers. They always have trouble with the Devils and you know Martin Brodeur will probably start against them so I am a little worried there but they have three straight home games so they should try and win at least 2 of them (3 if they can ever beat those damn devils!) and then the Thrashers. They play Ottawa twice in the month including the Hockey day in Canada tripleheader so these are all big games for them! Go Habs GO!

    Ziyad

  7. #7 hab heaven says:
    January 4, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    As a fan, I find it so frustrating to watch Samsonov. He reminds me of Berezin, all skate and no finish. I wish the habs would shoot more, because they are always looking for that perfect play or pass, and giving up potential good shots. it’s really hard sometimes, especially when the team doesn’t skate, and lose to teams below 500, to not get upset. We need to beat those sub par teams and show them that we are superior to them. As well it will boost our confidence to want to finish on top. Now, play hard and beat Caps tonight.We need the win badly. teams below us are really starting to make a move.(ie. Boston,Ottawa,Carolina)

  8. #8 Jack Tornton says:
    January 4, 2007 at 6:10 pm

    hab-dab-a-do:

    I think Murray should wear the “C” or you what Samsonov should wear the “C”
    LOL…

  9. #9 Hab-a-dab-a-do says:
    January 4, 2007 at 8:43 pm

    I think a great idea would be a different player every week would get to wear the C and at the end of the season the fans get to pick which player is the captain. My vote will go to Youppi

  10. #10 hab heaven says:
    January 4, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    Our defence is plain HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE.!!!!!!!!! 5 GOALS ALLOWED IN ONLY 25 MINUTES! PATHETIC!! HUET ISN’T MUCH BETTER!!

  11. #11 hab heaven says:
    January 4, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    Just changed goalies. Obviously, Carbo thinks Huet is garbage tonight, too!
    I told you about all the soft goals Huet is allowing in every game now. nightmare! We’ve lost 3 of last 5, and count tonight as another loss. We aren’t going to finish higher than 7th in standing. mark my words. this happens every year. we start off strong, and fade in 2nd half of sesaon. fans shouldn’t get too excited about this team. They disappoint us every year, and this year will be no different. ousted in 1st round, this year, you’ll see. Huet can’t play this many games.!!! too many.!

  12. #12 hab heaven says:
    January 4, 2007 at 9:31 pm

    BTW, we can’t score 5 on 5. How many teams go far in playoffs not able to score 5 on 5. Carbo EMPHASIZED the fact WE JUST CAN”T SCORE 5 ON 5!!!

  13. #13 hab heaven says:
    January 4, 2007 at 9:41 pm

    Sorry guys for being so frank, but nothing upsets me more than a team who doesn’t show up, and a goalie who allows soft goals, as well a porous defence. all are true tonight. I get very passionate about this team and hate it when we play so poorly. lately our play has not been up to par. That is why we are losing more games lately than winning. It will haunt us come playoff time!

  14. You are by far the worst pessimist on this site. Incessant whining.
    It’s enough already.

    You’re not even having a dialog with anyone. 4 messages to yourself. No one wants to even reply to you. Can’t you see why?

    Yes the Habs are playing awful, but the thing about you is whther they’re playing awful, average, good or great all you have to say is negative bullshit.

    You say you’re a fan but you’re not even close.

  15. A R R G H !

  16. #16 hab heaven says:
    January 4, 2007 at 10:15 pm

    Hey Habs Blog, You have the filthiest mouth! So You, FU@$%^)*K OFF! If you don’t like my comments, tough shit! Who the hell do you think you are? Anyone can anything they like, BUT IF YOU DON’T AGREE, YOU OPEN YOUR FOWL MOUTH. It doesn’t work that way!

  17. #17 hab heaven says:
    January 4, 2007 at 10:15 pm

    Hey Habs Blog, You have the filthiest mouth! So You, FU@$%^)*K OFF! If you don’t like my comments, tough shit! Who the hell do you think you are? Anyone can anything they like, BUT IF YOU DON’T AGREE, YOU OPEN YOUR FOWL MOUTH. It doesn’t work that way!

  18. For those who were wondering,it’s cause of this bullshit my blog name is Xhabsfan.Hopefuly this team can move on from this and make the changes nessary.

  19. #19 Habs#1 says:
    January 4, 2007 at 10:35 pm

    The penalty against Koivu on the Kovy goal cost them the game. And Huet needs some time out. Starting him the 2 games in a row was the first dumb move Carbo made all year. Abby should start on Saturday.

  20. #20 habs phan says:
    January 4, 2007 at 10:39 pm

    ouch!!! don’t know what happened here, pretty bad performance by the sounds of it. don’t really know what to make of this game. getting a little worried with rangers and devils coming into town. habs might need to settle down a little, maybe watch some of their games in the early season and figure out what has changed between now and then. must agree about the foul language on this site though. must be some better words to describe frustration, preferibly ones that dont start with “F”. just a thought!!! good luck on the weekend habs. i’ll be wearing my higgins jersey. hope we can figure out what we’re doing wrong. and give 110% on the weekend. go habs go

  21. #21 Hab-a-dab-a-do says:
    January 4, 2007 at 10:51 pm

    Just got word that Darsey Tucker might want to be a hab!!!

  22. #22 Habs4homers says:
    January 4, 2007 at 10:52 pm

    Why didn’t Koivu get upset about the penalty? But guys,even tho the goal didn’t count, we were at that point only down 1 goal; there was no reason to panic. But unfortunate, when the caps went up 3-1, there was a momentum swing of 2 goals; instead od tied 2-2, now became 3-1, and the bubble burst for habs. must agree that Huet needs a rest,but who will play against Devils? time for a call up from Hamilton. Lapierre could really help , brcause he adds alot of energy, and habs seem to be lacking that. can someone tell me what’s happening if the habs lately? It seems to be contagious amongst the players.Something has to give with Samsonov. I’m starting to feel sorry for him, until I think about him msking 7 million for 2 years. Can you imagine the frustration he’s feeling? he must know his days are numbered in MTL. Do you think he cares?

  23. #23 Dean Wickler says:
    January 4, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    Too much dead weight on this team that do not produce(Samsonov,Ryder,Plekanec,Perizogan,Johnson,Murray and Downey).
    Plus a weak defence, time to move some of this weight. Give some of the young guy’s a shot (Kostishyn,Millroy,Gravboski,Lappiere,Ferland, O’Byrne,Biron

  24. #24 Habs4homers says:
    January 4, 2007 at 11:21 pm

    Can someone give me some goal scoring stats from players in Hamilton? Who is their top scorer, and with how many goals, and what position do they play?

  25. Google Hamilton Bullbogs,then team stats.

  26. #26 stevejur says:
    January 4, 2007 at 11:54 pm

    Oh my my. Let me guess someone idiot will shortly post
    “don’t worry, everyone loses, don’t panic and (my favorite)
    everyone loses to Florida and Washigton”.

    WRONG STUPID! Good teams don’t lose to Florida and Washington.

    Even if the Koivu goal counted who would have scored at even strength?

    RIvet? Enough is enough. Maybe we can borrow some of the Leafs
    the beat the crap out of Boston tonight with 10 goals.

    Pathetic!

  27. #27 Habs#1 says:
    January 5, 2007 at 12:29 am

    This team is 23-12-5! They’re going through a bad stretch. They can break out of it. But let’s trade all the players we don’t like for Vinny Lecavelier, Scott Niedermeyer, Marian Hossa and Sidney Crosby(who according to everyone is bound for MTL just cause he cheered for the Habs as a kid. So did Vinny, Marty St.Louis, Brodeur, Borque, Lemieux and did they leave to come play for Montreal?)

    It just seems that the Habs are having some trouble on the road. They’ve lost 4 of they’re last 5 road games(Boston,Florida,Tampa,Washington). They need a nice long homstand and a couple of quick wins against NYR and do the impossible and beat Jersey.

    Abby should start on Saturday or Sunday. Maybe even play 2 in a row. Huet needs a break. Carbonneau can’t make the same bad disicion twice and play Huet 2 games in a row again. Huet looked dead tired.

    And while this team most defitnitly needs a huge upgrade at the 2nd line centre spot(the second line dissapeared again tonight, what a surprise!), wineing and complaining won’t do anything. I’ve learned this year more then any other that us calling for trades after every game won’t do anything.

    Gainey won’t make a panic move or do something just cause the fans want it done, you don’t win a cup that way. Remember last year when the Habs were sucking in Decembre and January? Did Gainey make a panic trade? No! He won’t do that. He will wait till a deal that he knows favours him comes along and IF THE CAP ALLOWS IT(some people seem to forget that’s there, which is why Vinny Lecavelier will probably never be traded to MTL) Gainey will do it.

    Play Abby, Rest Huet. It’s as simple as that right know. If they can hold out till the all-star break they can rest up and be ready to go. They came out on fire after the olympic break, they’ll do it again.

  28. #28 Jack Tornton says:
    January 5, 2007 at 12:45 am

    Luckily I was working today. I would be panicking like most of you guys do right now.
    Thanks God!

  29. #29 Jack Tornton says:
    January 5, 2007 at 12:47 am

    BTW we played as worse as Boston did tonight
    PROOF: 10-2 in favor of Toronto right?
    *(10)/2 – (2)/2 = 5-1

  30. #30 Habs4homers says:
    January 5, 2007 at 1:06 am

    yeah, but when was the last time MTL scored 10 goals in a game? Didn’t leafs also score 9 goals in 2 different games this season? I don’t get it. they have no offence, yet they have these outbursts, and we can’t manage a single goal 5 on 5. Makes no sense. Is it possible the leafs can catch us? If we go into a prolonged slump, say 4 or 5 losses in a row, you never know. I’m not sure exactly what ails the habs, but if we called up from Hamilton a few players for a while, it just make shake the living daylights into a few players, ie. Ryder, Samsonov,Higgins, Latendresse. worth a try, because nothing is helping, and I think Carbo is getting frustrated. Too bad Muller can’t lace up the skates, and go play. Wow, wouldn’t Lecavalier look good in a CH uniform. Yeah, I know, it’s never going to happen. But we can dream , can’t we?

  31. Yup. it’s definitely going to be hard to face all those Leafs’ fans tomorrow. The same fans that I have been explaining to for the last several weeks as to why there team sucks so badly. Maybe, I will get lucky and develop an appendicitis overnight.

    Not panicking though… Definitely not panicking… Carey Price is playing well, eh?

  32. #32 habs phan says:
    January 5, 2007 at 1:56 am

    i’m just dreaming of two wins this weekend, nevermind lecavalier!!!!

  33. By the way, I would be incredibly surprised if Sidney Crosby did not one day play for the Canadiens. His dad was a Canadiens draft pick, and Sidney grew up in Nova Scotia absolutely idolizing everything about the Montreal Canadiens. He is not some Montreal home boy who knows that the pressure of playing in his home town will be much greater than playing in New Jersey, Pittsburgh or some other town where hockey doesn’t really matter. Since Gretzky brandished Crosby as the next one several years ago, Crosby has been handling and thriving under pressure.

    Besides the Pittsburgh franchise will likely move to Kansas City next year which will probably prohibit Sidney from developing any strong personal ties to any particular town before he becomes a free agent. A lot can happen between now and then, but usually if a player of Sidney Crosby’s calibre wants to do something, it usually happens.

    Sidney’s family are all vehement Habs fans too.

  34. By the way, 2012 is the year that Crosby becomes a free agent. Carey Price should be the Habs’ starter by then. On defense should be Alexei Emelin, David Fisher and Ryan O’Byrne. The Kostisyn brothers will likely be ready to go and Chris Higgins will be a star (maybe wearing the “C”.) Latendresse might actually even develop into something someday especially if he has Crosby setting him up.

    Kovalev, Ryder, Samsanov, ?Koivu will be long since departed for other pastures by then. I will take the Habs for Lord Stanley’s Cup in 2012 — Doubtful, it will be any sooner, but to answer post #30, yes, you can dream. can’t you?

  35. If the habs don’t improve before 2012,most of us habs fans will have aneurysm’s and won’t see that day! DAM!

  36. yup…another stinker! Jeckyl and Hyde syndrome. someone posted can’t win on the road and Huet needs a break…ok if he has earned a rest (he’s playing poorly, it’s time for the other goalie to have a shot). I remember Dryden and Larocque sharing ice time. so it’s doable.

    But I suspect, the real dilemma is the lack of productivity from key players and lack of effort/energy. Another loss to a .500 team not good.

    How many more losses are needed before something’s done. Let’s see, four losses ago, we were saying we’re not to be concerned as the team was doing pretty well…now we’ve shown some poor performances and it’s only going to get worse as the teams are getting stronger….so do we continue to wait until we turn that corner too!

    Leafs hammering the Bruins…and shortly we’re going to play them…mmm not sure I want to hear the results of that game specifically especially the way things are going right now.

    Obviously, forget these last few losses and get back into the groove. Stay out of the penalty box and continue pressing being aggressive. Skating and hitting is the way to go. Huet is still the guy to go to but if he earns a rest then give Abby (or whoever) a shot. Go Habs Go!

  37. #37 smiler2729 says:
    January 5, 2007 at 10:22 am

    All this team needs is a gritty, sparkplug talented character guy like Shane Doan, Cory Stillman, Mark Recchi, Alyn McCauley, Pat Marleau, that type… maybe he’s in Hamilton (Chipchura, Lapierre). As for Darcy Tucker coming here, FUCK THAT, we had that psycho once and that was enough, what an overated baby! And as for Saku Koivu, I love the guy, he’s the only European that actually deserves to be captain of his team (Sundin? Alfredsson? Naslund? Forsberg? Jagr? Chara? Fogedaboudit.)

  38. #38 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    January 5, 2007 at 10:43 am

    I was very excited the other day to see Buffalo get beat up by the Sens, but these feelings were short lived by the mirror image game from the Habs vs the Caps. I think Carbo was trying to find some consistancy him with 6 straight starts for Huet with the thought that Abby was on his way out in a trade by the deadline and a rookie from Hamilton was coming as a back-up. I am also speculating their thought process was a rookie could not handle a 50% workload. Its wierd but Huet seems to play better when facing 30 or more shots, but this kind of abuse night-in-night-out has to take a toll on him mentally and physically.

    Last night the Habs had a really bad game and it was frustrating. Turnovers, penalties, and lack of heart when they were down seemed to be big factors. I hate to watch them lose, but even worse see them give-up! I am not going to call for trades or blame anyone, but lets get back to basics and bring back the excitement we saw in early December.

    Looking forward there are two crucial games this weekend which could turn things around quick and change this momentum to upward!

  39. #39 Habs4homers says:
    January 5, 2007 at 12:26 pm

    We can all be arm chair quaterbacks, but unfortunately only 1 man calls the shots-Bob Gainey. He won’t make a trade just because the fans want it. I think his hands are tied, because of the salary cap. listen to reason: He can’t unload Samsonov because his salary is too high. he’s not a bargain, and he can’t score, so who in their right mind would want him? 2) Souray shouldn’t leave the habs. we should resign him and trade Rivet instead. After all, Rivet doesn’t have a great shot, he’s not great on the PP, and he’s not great defensively, so why keep him? It will give us the extra $$ to sign Souray, who won’t come cheap. Since we have a plethora of D men,(in the minors), promote 1 of them to the habs for next year. As far as the goalie situation, I do believe that Aebischer will be traded,and replaced by Havlak or Danis, which will be used as a backup to Huet. Also I think they should play goalies like a buddy system, 50%. Huet can’t handle more than 50 games, or he starts to lose it, physically and mentally. As far as forwards are concerned,I believe Ryder will be traded. Whoever we get in return, can play on the 1st line.The problem, right now, is that we can’t say we have a complete line scoring. Yes, Koivu is scoring, but since Higgins has returned, he diesn’t seem to have the same energy he showed prior to his injury. And because Ryder isn’t scoring,the line isn’t in sync. Other teams are checking our 1st line, which leaves us with virtually nothing because our 2nd line is non existent. So, we only score on the PP, and that’s just not sufficient to win games, therefore the mediocrity lately. It appears that this team, without changes,could be a 500 team the rest of the season.That would probably get us 6th(if we’re lucky), but probably 7th place, and face Carolina or NJ in the 1st round. I don’t think hab fans want that matchup. So before you people jump all over me, remember, it’s just my opinion. If you have a different scenario, bring it on!

  40. #40 joshtm says:
    January 5, 2007 at 12:39 pm

    I agree well said. However it is time to think about finding another defensive coach.

  41. I agree the Canadiens need to start Aebischer against the Rangers but they should start Huet versus the Devils. Maybe Carbonneau should go back to the system he used at the beginning of the year where he used a couple for a couple of games in a row. That formula was working and neither goalie got rusty or tired because of it. They need to start winning some games again and start it off with a good homestand this weekend against the Rangers and Devils. I also agree that it is time to find a proven second line center and a good quality defenceman who can help the team score 5 on 5 goals. I will say one thing to some of the pessimists on this site here. You people are nothing but bandwagon jumpers who have fallen off the Canadiens bandwagon just because they are going through a slump right now. If the Canadiens start a hot streak again(and I have a feeling with the team they have, they will break out of this sooner rather than later) then you will be saying how the Canadiens are unstoppable and that they will win the cup this year. I know they are a good team that is not playing to their potential but the difference between me and a few of you people( not a lot but a few here and there) is that I have CONFIDENCE in this team. This is the best team we have had since we won our last cup in 1993. I think they are close to being a bonafide contender, they just have a couple of pieces of the puzzle missing. So for those people who make these negative comments about the Canadiens, you people are NOT Montreal Canadiens fans. We don’t need people like that on this site! Anyways, GO HABS GO and beat the Rangers and Devils this weekend!

    Ziyad

  42. #42 stevejur says:
    January 5, 2007 at 1:17 pm

    We’ve got 3 defensive coaches???

    If the forwards were to score more goals the pressure to
    pinch with our D would not be there.

    The D is moving up all the time and leaving an empty hole on the counter attack.

    We really need a pure goalscorer, and AGAIN please don’t say Ryder.

    I’ll give him a soccer net and he won’t score.

  43. #43 Habs4homers says:
    January 5, 2007 at 1:20 pm

    Ziyad, I respect your opinion, but honestly, we all want what’s best for the habs. What was so great about the team in 1993? They won with a very mediocre team, and they had a lot of luck! you don’t win 10 straight overtime games without luck. Most of us are realists. Do you honestly believe this team is better than Buffalo or Anaheim? If you do,you’re on another planet.I’m not saying that this team is lousy, but I do think they need to address certain areas. That doesn’t make us bandwagon fans. As well. even if the habs win a few in a row,it doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be any changes.Whatever it takes to get this team over the hump,should be done. If you think is so great, why can’t we score 5 on 5?

  44. #44 Snake says:
    January 5, 2007 at 1:54 pm

    Everyone SHUT UP!

  45. #45 Habs#1 says:
    January 5, 2007 at 2:09 pm

    Come on Snake, let them have their fun. It’s no big deal. This happens every time the Habs go into a funk. I’ll be the first to admit I used to be one of them but this team won me over in December when they didn’t collapse at the beginning of the month like they did last year.

    While they do need a second line centre desperatly and one of the Russians needs to go(prefferably Kovalev), this team can and will break out of their funk. Every good team faces some adversity. I mean, the Ducks have lost three in a row, they’ve lost Giggy, Pronger, Beauchemin and Marchant but they’ll keep it together and turn it around just like the Habs will.

  46. Lookit,when Downey end up being your best player last nite ,we got problems bub.

  47. #47 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    January 5, 2007 at 2:25 pm

    Snake, what fun would a silent habs blog be!

    As for the 93′ habs there was 1 thing that was NOT mediocre and that was a superstar goalie…

    I think the New NHL rules have handicaped our defenses and goalies which in turn, makes them work harder and over time tires them out. Not that I would like to see a bunch of clutch hockey. But take the anology of boxing, when a boxer gets tired he is able to lean on his opponent for a rest which conserves their energy while forcing the opponent expend energy by hold your wieght. I think the same holds in Hockey. The offense is able to run rampent without too much resistance.
    Just think if a Boxer was penalized when he clutched and rewarded him with a free punch!?!? Or 2:00 with a hand tied behind his back. The bout would get more exciting to the fans. There would be more knockouts! But the sport of Boxing would change to a more offensive game such as it did in hockey.

  48. #48 smiler2729 says:
    January 5, 2007 at 2:28 pm

    I thought this thread was about Koivu?

  49. #49 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    January 5, 2007 at 2:35 pm

    Saku’s on his way to having a career year, there’s nothing much to complain with him. Let’s get back to the jucy stuff like how these guys girlfriends don’t live in Montreal so move to get closer to them…. LOL

  50. #50 Habs4homers says:
    January 5, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    Let’s talk about the new uniforms. are they actually going to tuck the jerseys into their shorts? ugly, man!
    I also heard there is a good chance the nets will be bigger next season.up the scoring. I’d be favor of that. Next season will be quite interesting.
    Hey guys, imagine a russianless habs squad?

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