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Samsonov wants out!

  • Good Riddance!

    Sergei Samsonov and his agent aren’t pleased. Not pleased with how he’s been treated in Montreal.

    Well roll out the red carpet for Mr. Samsonov because he’s certainly earned it, hasn’t he? He should be calling the shots right? With his performance he’s earned the right to demand what he wants, earned the right to flap his gums to the media.

    Samsonov will never recover from this. Should he NOT be traded, the taste he’s left in the mouths of Canadiens fans is bitter. Very bitter.

    Who in their right mind will take Samsonov and his salary? The big rumor is Chicago. Gainey will have to pull some strings to come out ahead on this one.

    Congratulations Mr. Samsonov, you’ve brought no class to an organization built on it.

112 Comments
  1. Sammy, The feeling is mutual!

  2. #2 habs phan says:
    February 6, 2007 at 12:53 pm

    all i know is that tonight is a huge game!!!! atlanta is not beating buffalo. all we have to do is give carolina a good beating and we are tied for third in the conference. it’s our time to get ahead and solidify a spot in the playoffs. go habs go. as for samsonov. trade him for a bag of chips and a pepsi. i don’t think he’s worth much more then that. good luck tonight boys.

  3. #3 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    February 6, 2007 at 12:54 pm

    Is this an echo from November… we probably would have thrown you “out” long ago if someone would have taken you. You were never a good fit! You’re too small to be on this defensive style club.

  4. #4 habsfan says:
    February 6, 2007 at 12:55 pm

    Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, sucker! What a waste of money, I feel sorry for Gainey. Samsonov, Niinimaa, Downey for a 1st rounder. There ya go, case closed.

    Or maybe just Samsonov for a black sharpie and 20 lbs of used sock tape.

  5. It’s too bad really. We might have to package him with someone we DON’T want to lose. Samsonov is a talented player…too bad it never showed as a Hab.

  6. #6 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    February 6, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    Gazette’s – reporting no changes to tonight’s line up from Sunday’s except a possible Markov insertion if healthy. Sammy has seen his last days with a CH on his chest… New home press box!

  7. #7 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    February 6, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    Actually, I am jealous! He gets Paid $3.5 to watch hockey every night! Send him to Hamilton if we can not find an easy exit!

  8. Samsonov and Niinima for BIG Bertuzzi,Habs allways take care of their players.Good for Florida “ready to play” ,while big Bert will have it together for the big show,AWSOME…This way while rebuilding we can still injoy the rest of the year and Bertuzzi a chanch at saving his career so were ever he goes next year,he ,his wife and family are ok,U bet he”ll be trying!!! Win or lose tonite ,Cole 2 goals,we need bigger D MEN for Hab Killers like him ,SOURAY can”t do it all ,all the time.

  9. lol, Some harsh words, but I can’t say I don’t understand where you’re coming from on this topic.

    I wouldn’t expect Gainey to be able to trade Samsonov for a guy like Todd Bertuzzi even with Niinimaa in the deal. That deal sounds absolutely horrible if you keep in mind the fact that Florida traded Roberto Luongo for Bertuzzi.

    Right now, at $3.5M a year and only 22 points, Samsonov is barely worth a 3rd Round pick IMO.

  10. #10 HABMAN says:
    February 6, 2007 at 1:36 pm

    What a selfish WHINER!!! We should trade him to the Maple Duds, he would be in good company with that CLASSLESS organization, except for the fact that they are in the same division as us and knowing the Hab’s luck with ex-players (John Leclair)he would probably come back to haunt us. I say GOOD F*&^ING RIDDANCE!!!!!

  11. I allso predict the trade to happen on around the 9th,10th,11th,that way Samsonov can john leclair us on the 13th with a hat trick, ” Florida’s in Habland onthe 13th” the little prick!!!

  12. #12 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    February 6, 2007 at 1:46 pm

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp?content=20070206_122214_5340
    From sportsnet

    We ain’t getting nothing for Sammy! But Maybe some Cap room if someone picks him up… I guess Bob read my #7 and desided he wasn’t going to let Sammy’s pride wait for a trade!

  13. Well there goes my career as the Habs Silvia Browne, lol..

  14. #14 smiler2729 says:
    February 6, 2007 at 1:49 pm

    Like I’ve said before, if Sergei Samsonov had his shit together at any time over the past couple of seasons (a) Joe Thornton would still be in Boston and (b) Edmonton would be last season’s Stanley Cup Champs…
    His lack of production got a franchise player traded out of Boston (did anyone really think big Joe was the problem on that underacheiving team?) and then for an encore, Sammy completely disappears in the ’06 playoffs as the Oilers fall in 7 to the fluky dirty Hartford Carolinas…
    The guy has talent and moves but is lacking in guts and grit, I say he has one last chance to salvage his NHL career somewhere before fading away like a Gilbert Dionne, hopefully Bob Gainey can find that place for him and actually get something in return (I like the Flyers, Samsonov for Calder, bust for bust, what does Philly have to lose and their GM’s an inexperienced dummy).
    BRING ON Mickey Grabovsky from the ‘Dogs!!!!

  15. #15 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    February 6, 2007 at 1:57 pm

    smiler2729 – Seems like Boston still has their problems! They’ll probably get rid of Chara?!?!

  16. #16 Muller says:
    February 6, 2007 at 2:02 pm

    I’d be surprised if anyone picks him up off waivers…

  17. Someone can pick him up for half on re entry.

    HMmm.

  18. #18 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    February 6, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    Habs Blog – How does that work? Would we foot part of the bill for this year or next year or something?

  19. I believe if he clears, then re enters. The Canadiens are on the hook for 50% of the salary.

    Same as Ron Hainsey not that long ago.

  20. #20 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    February 6, 2007 at 2:15 pm

    Would that be for the remainder of the the year or the whole contact?

  21. Yup, like the Hainsey deal where the Habs were on the hook for half of what was left on his $550,000 salary

  22. Its one thing to pay 3.5 mil to let Samsonov watch the game from the pressroom,but to pay him to play against us???well that’s NUT’S”Ko-Ko for Co-Co puffs!!” One bad move after another and again who really pays: WE FANS!!! Now I’m really pissed off!!!!!

  23. #23 JonoPEI says:
    February 6, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    My real thoughts are about what Gainey is gonna do with A) the extra cap space and b) the empty roster space. Do you think they’ll stay with Murray and Downey or bring up a Bulldog or a trade?

  24. #24 joshtm says:
    February 6, 2007 at 2:53 pm

    Well according to Snake and Rob, it’s all our fault for not treating King Sammy with respect. Blame it all on the fans eh Rob and Snake?

  25. #25 joshtm says:
    February 6, 2007 at 2:55 pm

    Yes, Rob put Sammy onto this blog and Sammy read all my posts and cried to his agent!

  26. #26 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    February 6, 2007 at 3:09 pm

    JonoPEI – I don’t think there are goning to bring anybody up until something would actually happen to Sammy. His Cap money still applies and we already have Perez sitting in the stands and Begin possibly returning. Maybe this is the beginning of the shopping season? We’ll see how the players react on the ice tonight…

  27. #27 joshtm says:
    February 6, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    For all of you media and fan haters, where is your excuse for Sammy then? We all know he is not worth the money he is paid for. We could list quite a few habs too who have not being working for their paycheque of late.

    Yup blame it all LeJournal and me a habs fan. Yes we go on the ice interfere and we hold back Kovalev and force Koivu to get hooking penalties, yes we the fans and the media are on the ice but you don’t see us….

    Boy the excuses these pros use for non-performance is funny, what’s funnier are the likes of Rob and Snake who support those ridiculous theories.

  28. #28 kazmojo says:
    February 6, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    Samsonov was actually showing some amount of effectiveness on the third line. Still not worth $3.5M/year (not even close), but he might have been more trade worthy had he played with Bonk and Johnson a bit more. Those two create space for a player like Samsonov to operate.

    Still, there’s not much room in the lineup for him, what with Perezhogin, Murray, Downey and eventually Begin trying to find a regular spot.

  29. #29 Frank says:
    February 6, 2007 at 4:06 pm

    So if he gets picked up we get nothing? If we traded him we could’ve gotten SOMETHING, no? Wasn’t Chicago interested in him, we should’ve traded Sammy and Rivet for Aucoin and Smolinski(one of the rumours). At least for something. Hopefully he’s opening salary cap to make a big move or something.

  30. You know this all came about trying to complament the Koivu …Kovalev line.If you watch the utra talented Kovalev,he plays like a shark and because of that style,you never know when he’s going to strike.So its impossable to build a line around him.Bob should of got a line member to complament Koivu,a big strong in the corners ,trigger happy player with a proven history,thus when Kovalev goes to feed all the better. NOW WE HAVE SAKU BURNED OUT, KOVALEV PLAYING WITH HIMSELF AND 7 MILLION DOLLARS IN THE PRESSROOM AND DOWNEY, MURRAY AND NEMO”NIINIMA” ON THE ICE FOR A PLAYOFF RUN. THANKS…THANKS ALOT!!!

  31. So how true is the Forsberg rumour that Montreal is in the hunt ?

    Msquare

  32. #32 Snake says:
    February 6, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    HEy JOshtm;

    YOu got what you wanted!!!!!!! BUt yet you still seem to dribble out negativity instead of joy. ENOJOY THIS DAY!! Gainey did ity for you. THe broken down players are on their way out. ALl thanks to you. YOU DID IT! Gianey has followed your words yet you fail to mention him. WE DID IT!

  33. #33 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    February 6, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    Xhabsfan – You may have been on to something if we would have started the season in January, but we thought we did have people complimenting in the first half of the Season. Higgins is top 5 in scoring yet missed nearly 1/3 of season. Koivu was on a career high season. Ryder was on track to be a 30 goal score which is what was expected. Then they stumbled… Maybe he’s pissed because Souray is rumored to make more than him next year?LOL

    I do agree SAKU needs somebody with some size to play with because he is the only guy that will get in front tof the Net lately and he’s always in some scrum after the play. He’s probably worn out from carrying the 1st line for so long! He played better with Lats, but Lats lately is trying to stick handle around everyone… without any success!

  34. Are you all just looking at his stats? Watching the games as of late, he’s moving very good out there. How can Sammy be productive when getting just 12 minutes of ice time with little of that coming on the PP? Why not look at other forwards averaging 16-18 minutes that aren’t producing?

    Last season once traded to Edmonton he tallied 16 pts in 19 regular season games. For those going by stats for production, those are great numbers. Playoff time he produced 15pts in 24 games. What kind of production would make any of you TRUE fans happy? Maybe it’s just that he doesn’t fit the style of play that Carboneau is looking for. Should have seen that then during the summer before making him an offer. He’s gifted with the puck and any fan can see that by watching him on the ice when given a chance.

    what if he was averaging a point a game but wanted to be traded cause he didn’t like mgmt? I’m sure all you haters would still find something to complain about in regards to Samsonov and how it’s his fault instead of what’s wrong with management.

    If you have a disagreement with your current employer, and feel it would be better for both side to part ways, what is wrong with that? Alittle more complicated when you have contracts and salary caps to worry about.

    Also, can’t fault a player for getting the money that someone is willing to pay. I know we all would take more money if given to us whether we thought we actually were worth it. I’m glad Sammy got his deal. Hopefully things will workout for both sides.

  35. #35 joshtm says:
    February 6, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    I did indeed praise the new look habs early in the year and then Gainey shipped the rookies down and it was back to the old grinders and winders….

  36. #36 Iceberg14 says:
    February 6, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    I love samsonov…I never seen so much ignorance in my life. The guy moved here and bought a house. He wanted to be a huge part of this team and 10 games in carbonneau decided to make him the scapegoat. He is a playmaker primarily, not a sniper and he needed someone who he can set up and score. They guy is in the middle of the pack in Canadiens scoring and he did that while getting 3-4 shifts a night, absolutely zero power play time where he excels and constantly blamed every night..If he got the powerplay time kovalev had he would have just as many points. I have been a habs fan since I was born and I watch every game…Even though he wasn’t scoring for obvious reasons he played hard and backchecked…so what about Kovalev? koivu? higgins? ryder? how come they aren’t getting scratched of blamed? only samsonov…this is a team game and the underachieving habs are average at best…last thursday in pittsburgh..his line with bonk and johnson…both who are not as good as him..were the best line they had and then he gets scratched…he was awesome out there. and he didn’t get any pp time, not a shift in Ot and wasn’t chosen as a shooter in the shootout which he deserves
    Carbonneau is all over the place this year and the team is playing awful…In addition…Huet earned the number #1 job in Mtl hands down…when he lost it wasn’t his fault it was the teams..he stole so many games this year i cant even count and he was an allstar for god’s sake…he had better stats then raycroft, luongo kipper etc and all they’re coaches stood behind them win or lose because they recognized it was the team’s fault they were losing, not their star goalies…and because of that these goalies got the appreciation and confidence they needed and every one of them is heating up down the stretch…carbo once again screwed huet with this stupid 2 man system which never works and come play off time you are gonna have huet cold and unconfident when abby proves he is not number #1….it’s disgusting..I hope they trade both sammy and huet to teams who will appreciate them…It’s getting harder and harder to watch what gainey and carbonneau are doing to this team…

  37. Habs blog:

    You have missed the boat on this one completely. This is absolutely terrible for the Habs. This is not good news at all.

    Remember that Samsanov was signed because Shanahan and Arnott and Sykora refused to play for the Habs. The media, fans and coach set up a lose-lose situation with Samsanov early in the season, and no one has backed down. Ask Sammy if fan and media pressure in Montreal had anything to do with why he wants to leave, jerktm.

    Good week for the Habs; lose the potential future by pissing off Crosby. Lose Samsanov.

    Ooopppss, I forgot that I am a Pens fan now; we’ll take him in return for a bucket of pucks. Watch him pot about 20 points in the playoffs in our run to the Cup!!! Any whack jobs want to criticize Souray too because we need a tower of strength on D.

  38. #38 joshtm says:
    February 6, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    Hey Rob sounds happy, at least someone’s happy. By the way Carbo’s comments of late have all but trashed the habs Rob, next we await to see if Gainey also supports his coach on this. Geeze, Rob, if Guy Carboneau is unhappy with the habs….kinda of self explanatory then isn’t it. Or you can lead a horse to water but….

  39. #39 JohnnyD says:
    February 6, 2007 at 5:26 pm

    ROB THE BUM WHO DOESN’T KNOW NOTHING BOUT HOCHKEY SPEAKS AGAIN!!! First of all your buddy Samsonov is the biggest waste of space on this team!! Thank God they finally woke up and realized he’s garbage!! Also I’ve never seen a guy be on Crosby’s D*ck more than you!!! Who cares about this actor, if you think the penguins are ever gonna get rid of this kid your crazy!! He’s on that team for life just like Dipietro. You dont have to loose sleep cause they pissed off mr. crosby!! They can have him!!

  40. #40 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    February 6, 2007 at 5:30 pm

    Iceberg14 – People did not start coming down on Sammy until he started opening his mouth the first time in November. Ignorance, just because he played well with Bonk and Johnson does mean he is playing up to potential. Pleks, Perez, Streit all have benefited from Bonk and Johnsons hard work. But a positive +/- is worth $3.5 million.

    The reason Carbo has not come down on Kovalev, Koivu, Higgins, Ryder…ect is that their slumps have not dragged on the whole year. You have to earn your way onto the powerplay, shotout squad, PK. I remember a few Shotouts where he was given the opp to try to break a slump but failed. Similar to Higgins last Thursday and tonight Higgi on the 3rd line. Carbo does not have many options to motivate the team, but the #1 tool is icetime. He took some away some from Sammy and he was feed up; He ran his mouth, so he is finding an early exit!

    We already have Kovalev who handles the puck (sometimes too much) but turns it over less and at least passes for a few points. Sammy was NOT a good fit, no hard feelings! Good riddens…
    Go Habs Go

  41. #41 Jack Tornton says:
    February 6, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    LOL! All what you guys do is complaining about what others say.

    Joshtm: No one reads your posts, lol, for God’s sake…….SHUT UP.

    You make everyone hate each other. What an evil!

    Hey Rob, is there any trophy or medals that goes to the worst fan of the year? Well, is there is, then Joshtm is on his run to win it.

    Congrats Joshtm!

  42. #42 Snake says:
    February 6, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    Souray = Franchise

  43. #43 dartmouth says:
    February 6, 2007 at 6:07 pm

    SAMMY IS AND ALLWAYS WILL BE OVERRATED. SINCE HE CAME INTO THE LEAUGE IN 97 ALL THE ATTENTION HE GOT WAS FROM THE HELP OF HIS BETTER LINE MATES IN BOSTON AND EDMONTON. I HATED WHEN THE SIGNED HIM AND I LOVE TO SEE HIM LEAVE. HE WANTS TO PLAY ON THE NUMBER 1 LINE SO BAD LET CHI OR LA TAKE HIM

  44. #44 Michael says:
    February 6, 2007 at 6:16 pm

    Geeze Ziman.. a little harsh? Do you have nothing else going on in your life than to put that much hate and anger towards a person that I am willing to guess you don’t even know? You probably have no idea what has/is going on behind the scenes, but with statements like that I doubt you even care. You just run your mouth on an issue that you know nothing about. Do everyone a favor on this site and keep your mouth shut. Your post did nothing for this site and your opinions have no validity.

  45. #45 kazmojo says:
    February 6, 2007 at 6:34 pm

    Hey Michael, I don’t see a Ziman post here. He usually has some of the more sane views here, so I’d cut him some slack regardless.

    As for the Smolinski/Aucoin for Samsonov/Rivet rumours, the trade is almost even in terms of dollars (Rivet/Samsonov make $500k more combined). But the two Hawks definitely outperform our two. So why would that trade happen?

    Maybe because Aucoin is injured (again) and the Hawks are sick of him sitting more than playing? Maybe Gainey thinks the Habs can wait for Aucoin to heal up, and play Niinimaa until the playoffs? Niinimaa hasn’t been bad of late — not to say that he’s been good either, but he doesn’t hurt the team like he used to.

    The Hawks are second to last in the West, and stand almost no chance of making the playoffs. I don’t know how long Aucoin’s and Smolinski’s contracts are, but Samsonov has one more year, and Rivet is a UFA after this season. Maybe they’re looking to shed longer contracts for future flexibility?

    Or most likely … just another BS rumour…

  46. kazmojo,Niinimaa”NEMO” PLAYED ONE GAME IN HOW LONG?,Dude ,did U not see him give the puck away against the Pens,he is another big wast of cash! Put him on a plane out of here.The wheels ARE FALLING OF OFF MAN,and NEMO,DOWNEY AND MURRAY are not and never will be the answer!Funny enough,I think the only thing that’s going to fix this big mess ,the play of Erik Cole,now that saddens me to no end!!!

  47. #47 Michael says:
    February 6, 2007 at 6:56 pm

    They must have filtered it and got rid of it because it was filled with swear words and nasty name calling.. totally innapropriate.

  48. That’s for after the game Ziman,lol

  49. #49 joshtm says:
    February 6, 2007 at 7:50 pm

    Jack, Jack jacko, you are just as bad as me and Rob with your pompous judgements. Honestly do Rob and I deserve that kind of hate from you? For what being fans? As fans we have the right to agree or disagree, most of all we are also habs fans. But I guess Jack no one is good enough for even you.

    What you call me evil for crapping on Sammy and Ninny? For saying the same things about the Habs as Carbo is now saying? Is that so Jack?

    Honestly. Talk about denial.

    The most I have done is disagree with some comments which I don’t support, however I do support the habs in spite of the adversity that people say faces them. The great culprits, LeJournal the anti-hab rag, how dare they say nasty things about the habs, and fans, how dare they expect their team to win eh Jack? The government, how dare they punish the overpaid superstars with taxes that any rich person faces? HAHAHAA!! Listen to yourselves, honestly, and you would step inside the Bell Centre, come on say those things in the lobby of the Centre and see if you get away scot free….

  50. #50 doggone R habs says:
    February 6, 2007 at 8:29 pm

    I really don’t think the turmoil surrounding the tean now, is going to help us. It is a major distraction for a team that already has it’s share of problems. no matter what, we need to support this team. and now that 1 cancer is leaving, maybe, just maybe this team will focus on the game instead of it’s troubled players. Everyone knows we need more scoring, and if it were possible to make a trade, Gainey would have done it. Nobody in their right mind, wants an underachiever, over paid player, with an overinflated ego.
    So, what should Gainey do? I guess the best scenario, is that after Samsonov clears waivers,trade him for a draft pick. Then go for a much needed center, and maybe part with Rivet and Aebischer. I think Carbo played Aebischer back to back games, to showcase him for a possible trade. Let’s hope so.
    If we could put together a few wins that certainly would help a trade get done.
    This franchise never seems to go thru a season without turmoil. It’s always calm before the storm, then whamo! Maybe our nickname should have been ” The HURRICANES”

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