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Sergei Samsonov

  • How would you handle the Sergei Samsonov situation?

    What would you do this year and/or the off season to remedy the problems he has created?

    Lack of production is one thing, but his repeated public whining and complaining to the media has tarnished his reputation forever. It’s also put Bob Gainey in a very difficult position.

    What do you do?

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  1. #1 habs#1fan says:
    March 13, 2007 at 8:37 pm

    BarrieHabFan…
    Yeah you are right the Habs certainly did have mostly Canadian players with the exception of the 2 you mentioned and dont forget John Leclair who scored some big goals, and Matt Schnieder they are American. And American Sean Hill was on the team as well although he had a minor role. But Yeah no europeans (except Petrov). They had Patrik Carnback and Patric Kjellberg 2 Swedes but they played very little during the regular season and none during the playoffs.

  2. #2 vancityHABSfan says:
    March 14, 2007 at 1:01 am

    gainey should take note of the chemistry from tonight ala kastsitsyn & latendresse.. samsonov can go back to russia – kovalev? give him another chance.. koivu recovered from real cancer, i’m sure kovalev can be cured of the quasi-cancer that is samonov.

  3. #3 smiler2729 says:
    March 14, 2007 at 9:50 am

    THE NORTH AMERICAN FACTOR –

    The 1993 Cup Winners:

    Vincent Damphousse
    Kirk Muller
    Brian Bellows
    Stephan Lebeau
    Mike Keane
    Denis Savard
    Gilbert Dionne
    Eric Desjardins
    John LeClair
    Mathieu Schneider
    Patrice Brisebois
    Kevin Haller
    Benoit Brunet
    J.J. Daigneault
    Gary Leeman
    Paul DiPietro
    Guy Carbonneau
    Lyle Odelein
    Todd Ewen (1 playoff game)
    Ed Ronan
    Mario Roberge (3 playoff games)
    Sean Hill (3 playoff games)
    Jesse Belanger
    Oleg Petrov (1 playoff game)
    Donald Dufresne (2 playoff games)
    Patrick Roy
    Rob Ramage
    Andre Racicot (1 playoff game)

    -And the following never played in a ’93 playoff game:

    Frederic Chabot (1 Regular Season game)
    Turner Stevenson (1 Regular Season game)
    Eric Charron (3 Regular Season games)
    Patrik Carnback (6 Regular Season games)
    Patric Kjellberg (7 Regular Season games)

    So Oleg Petrov was the only Euro to appear in a playoff game that winning season. Coincidence? Or voodoo??

  4. #4 Frank says:
    March 15, 2007 at 3:20 pm

    Buyout his *** at the end of the season. He says he regrets signing here, well we regret him signing here to.

  5. #5 Rocco says:
    March 15, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    when did habs fans get so racist you guys suck put sammy ,koivu and kovy together and see what happens. ROOKIES don’t win cups players that play for years do i sure remember when i was a kid watching sammy and kovy comin down the ice with the puck PLAYING AGAINST MONTREAL i would **** my pants hoping they wouldn’t drive it in our canadiens asses! do you guys remember those days or what??? you bunch of *** clowns!!!!!!!

  6. #6 Rocco says:
    March 15, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    when did habs fans get so racist you guys suck put sammy ,koivu and kovy together and see what happens. ROOKIES don’t win cups players that play for years do i sure remember when i was a kid watching sammy and kovy comin down the ice with the puck PLAYING AGAINST MONTREAL i would **** my pants hoping they wouldn’t drive it in our canadiens asses! do you guys remember those days or what???

  7. #7 Rocco says:
    March 15, 2007 at 4:28 pm

    kovy was right the fans hate russians just as much as carb

  8. #8 Rocco says:
    March 15, 2007 at 4:30 pm

    sammy and kovalev are the best players they have give them a centre like koivu *** clowns

  9. #9 rocco says:
    March 15, 2007 at 4:47 pm

    put sammy and kovalev with a centreman like koivu they will shine. you look at there play before comin to the canadiens they played great hockey we should all know that one because when i was a kid watching sammy or kovlev comin up the ice with the puck against our beloved canadiens i would **** my pants hopin they wouldn’t score on our canadiens asses!!!!

  10. #10 Frank says:
    March 16, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    Wow, calm down…You make it seem like Samsonov is really that great of a player….LMFAO!!!! He had a shot to play on the second line wiht Kovalev and Plekanec, did shitall, they’re not gonna put Kovy,Koivu and Sammy on the same line, probably the stupidest thing i have heard. That would mean that the second line would be Ryder,Higgins and Plekanec, which is not bad, but you have to spread out the scoring: Higgins,Koivu,Ryder is great, Kovy Pleks Lats is also good. You have to prove that you can score to be on the 1st line…what has sammy proved other than he can complain pretty damn well, and cause a few goals on us?????

  11. #11 rocco says:
    March 16, 2007 at 6:55 pm

    your just scared he might actually score a few goals on a line like that and if u think higgins and ryder can win a stanley cup without players like kovalev and samsonov your f@#$in nuts like i said before ROOKIES DON”T WIN CUPS WITHOUT PLAYERS LIKE THEM , look at 1986 7 rookies on the team but they also had gainey,and who else just think about it maybe look it up to refresh your memory. also has ryder or higgins done anything since the break NO look at koivu he can’t even score with HOGS yes HOGS like them two morones they should get ten minutes a game like sammy’s getting they would score just as much as he has!!!!!

  12. #12 Frank says:
    March 17, 2007 at 10:43 am

    Yes, Samsonov scoring a few goals does scare me, cause at that point the world is ending. Do you really think the Has are gonna win the cup, no, not cause samsonov isnt playing, but because their goaltending is ****! Abby cant make a save when it counts. You have to develop the players who have a future, and work with the players that give it all for the team. Not the ones who complain, and insult the team when they’re making a push for the playoffs, that’s very detrimental to the team. Higgins is one of the players who can develop into a great player, Samsonov has already peaked, and that was last yr.
    THE HABS AREN’T WINNING THE CUP THIS YEAR!!!! They have to focus down the road, they’ll be lucky to make the playoffs this year. Samsonov is gonna go play somewhere else next year, might do well ,might not, but he’s not good enough this year.

  13. #13 The Truth says:
    March 21, 2007 at 12:27 pm

    It looks like the Montreal Canadians need a change. Get rid Guy Carbonneau and put another coach. Guy Carbonneau hasn’t treated all players equal.

  14. #14 The Truth says:
    March 21, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    It looks like the Montreal Canadians need a change. Get rid Guy Carbonneau and put another coach. Guy Carbonneau hasn’t treated all players equal. Put Kirk Muller as Coach.

  15. #15 Sean Ethier says:
    March 22, 2007 at 12:36 pm

    Samsonov has not been a good fit since day one and I was against this pick-up, like we need another small forward but I am just one voice.
    With Samsonov`s recent disgust with the HABS, I would give him the change he is asking for, let him play in Hamilton next year and save his 3.75 million salary for another player or two next year.
    Why buy him out and give him what he wants, trade him if you can next season but don`t mess up the teams resources by paying half-to-2-thirds his salary.

  16. #16 Frank says:
    March 22, 2007 at 4:19 pm

    ^^^I agree^^^

  17. #17 Jack says:
    March 23, 2007 at 3:23 pm

    Let’s the face it. The Americans keep winning the Stanley Cup. The reason why the Montreal Canadians suck, opps sorry Canadiens with the e. The reason why the Montreal Canadians suck is those french players smell and play like french frogs. They talk frog language and expect millions for that ****. A few frogs make millions and it’s like garbage down the drain. The Montreal Canadians should kick those French Players back to France:) You’ll save money and no more French players with those stupid egos like Patrick Roy. Let’s face it the Montreal Canadians are really into a big downturn for the past 29 years winning only 4 Cups.

  18. #18 HABS HATER says:
    March 24, 2007 at 7:16 pm

    MONTREAL SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!THE LEAFS OWN THE CANADIENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!THEY WONT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS

  19. #19 HABS LOVER says:
    March 25, 2007 at 12:03 pm

    MONTREAL HAS 25 Stanley Cups!!! they made it to the playoffs last year and will most likely place 8th maybe even 7th this year!!! Toronto did not make it to the dance last year, nor will they make it this year!!! The Toronto MakeMeLaughs definitely are the ones who SUCK… Longer and even harder they SUCK… TML=TOO MANY LOSERS… the only player on the team that they should keep is Wellwood… as for Montreal their records are proof have the Leafs even won a Stanley Cup in your lifetime HABS HATER? As for Samsonov trade him to the Leafs so they can complete their team of losers!!!

  20. #20 Your mom says:
    March 26, 2007 at 1:19 am

    There are two reasons why Samsonov was a failure this year in Montreal:

    1) The media. Everytime the Habs lost, Samsonov’s name would pop-up in the newspapers. How do you expect the man to play afterwards?

    2) Guy Carbonneau. He never used Samsonov properly and he kind of “forced” the people to hate the man.

    Let me tell ya that Samsonov is a great player. You don’t believe me? Then just open your NHL 07 for PS2 and try to play with the Habs. See who’s gonna score the goals! Anyways, as of now, I say trade him ASAP for both parties’ sake!

    BY THE WAY, STOP INSERTING KOVALEV’S NAME INTO EVERY THREAD THAT HAS TO DO WITH SAMSONOV FOR F*CK’S SAKE!

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