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Sergei Samsonov Traded to Blackhawks

  1. #1 PACTUM SERVA says:
    June 16, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    This frees up some cap room now.Cullimore will be bought out.Gainey again fixes a problem that he admits he made.Good job bob.Its a alot better buying out a 1.9 mil contract than a 3.5 mil.Lets not make the same mistake twice bob lol.Good job anyways.

  2. There goes midget no 1 , keep it going Bob.

  3. #3 Don Carnage says:
    June 16, 2007 at 1:30 pm

    Tony Salmelainen this guy is only 25 , maybe he will bloom ? Ok so Sergei is gone!!!good move Bob , I bet Sergei will be a fine player in Shy-town just did nto fit in here .

  4. Salmelainen is 5’9″-185lbs,he will once again star in the AHL with the BullDogs and that’s all.He will be one of the replacement players on the Dogs,cause a lot of them are going to have the big C.H.on they’re jersey next year.Cullimore might end up on Habs D yet,HE’S 35-36 YEARS OLD AND 6’4″-220 LBS AND A CUP WINNER. Better than Niinimaa !

  5. #5 Don Carnage says:
    June 16, 2007 at 2:02 pm

    Ouch the new guy is small …. who knows maybe he got some skills … I dont know him.

  6. #6 joburg says:
    June 16, 2007 at 2:19 pm

    Thank God !, the Habs are already a better team after getting rid of that scumbag, I would much rather have a small player who will give total effort,
    than a talented one who plays when he feels like it..and that is very seldom !!
    Good job Bob, now get rid of that other slug and the Habs will be a WHOLE BUNCH better !

  7. #7 joburg says:
    June 16, 2007 at 2:19 pm

    Thank God !, the Habs are already a better team after getting rid of that scumbag, I would much rather have a small player who will give total effort,
    than a talented one who plays when he feels like it..and that is very seldom !!
    Good job Bob, now get rid of that other slug and the Habs will be a WHOLE BUNCH better !

  8. #8 orilliaborn says:
    June 16, 2007 at 2:45 pm

    Let’s just pray Yashin doesn’t end up with the team. Anyway, now with Samsonov gone, maybe Gainey can work on getting rid of Kovalov and Steve Begin, the other two who hurt Montreal in so many ways.

  9. Steve Begin’s play was caused by his blocking shots. You can be the best hockey player in the world,but if your all banged up from 100m.p.h frozen rubber bullits cause your the only player that will block a puck in regular season play on your team,chances are your going to have a shit season.You can blame Carbo for Begins play last year and the funny thing is a lot of goalies don’t like it if you block their view . The only reason a coach would ask a player to block shots in early reg season is cause he don’t trust his Goalies!HUET???????????????????????

  10. #10 Don Carnage says:
    June 16, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    Yashin depends on the price at a bargin rate he is worth a try … he has great skills and a good work ethic, he is strong and not afaid to get into it and can put up numbers ….but there are better choices out there to be had or are there? We dont really know who can be had so better off with a Yashin than getting nothing anywhere else.

  11. #11 orilliaborn says:
    June 16, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    It’s got nothing to do with numbers when it comes time for Yashin. This is a guy that’s all about stigma and reputation. Yashin is considered by many including me, to be the definitive greedy, all-about-the-money modern day player. He’s considered a Russian who takes the money and doesn’t produce like he’s supposed to produce. Samsonov’s got nothing on Yashin. Samsonov was a bust for one year in Montreal and one year in Edmonton. Yashin’s been a bust since he signed for big numbers in Ottawa and then went to sleep, and then for bigger numbers in Long Island, and had an even deeper sleep. Montreal doesn’t need a reputation like this. Plus, all my Senator fans and friends will laugh at me if he ends up with the Habs. I’m losing sleep over this.

  12. #12 habs514 says:
    June 16, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    i’m just happy samsonov is gone!! i’m neutral about kovy though, when his game is on…he’s one hell of a good player!! we need a superstar like lecavalier, i think we will all see him in the CH at some point, perhaps 2009 when we win the stanley cup 😛

  13. #13 nigelski says:
    June 16, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    Ditto, Orillaborn, ditto. Yashin is not someone I ever want to see wearing the CH. EVER.

    YAY! Samsonstiff is gone, and we didn’t have to eat his contract! But we end up eating someone else’s contract, for $500 gs less. So it’s not a full yay, but it’s just awesome to be rid of Samsonov. I could care less how he does in Chitown, because even if he puts up some #s, I already am at my limit of hatred for the guy–he can’t make me despise him any more, any how.

    I’m not sure about Salma-whatever. He’s pretty small for a d-man, and I don’t know too much about him, having never seen him play. So the jury’s out on this one.

  14. #14 HIggy21 says:
    June 16, 2007 at 4:50 pm

    WE did not acquire Salmalanen to play on our big team. He was a throw in. Chicago would not do the trade unless we took both. Apparently this trade has been in teh works for about 3 straight weeks of constant talk.

  15. #17 Sam says:
    June 16, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    Any way you slice this…this is definitely good. The two guys should be some form of support if not for the Habs then for the BullDogs. You know, Yashin would be a good thing if he can work some give and go with Kovalev if there is another digger like Ryder…so if the salary consists of a small base and incentive based bonuses, then go for it!!! Especially where we can’t get Lacavalier or Ryan. Huet may have to be packaged for a shot at Lecavalier and it might have to take a Higgins. If Blake can be enticed then why not. Just my 2 cents.

  16. #18 orilliaborn says:
    June 16, 2007 at 6:08 pm

    I think if there’s one player in the league who absolutely belongs in a Montreal Canadiens iniform, it’s Lecavalier. I’d give up a whole bunch for him if I was GM. Whatever it takes.

  17. #19 Don Carnage says:
    June 16, 2007 at 8:02 pm

    I think we will see the big V in Montreal one day…. and again for Yashin it depends on the amount of $ they want for him, he wants to be here and he would play well with Kovalev they have a past together… His numbers are not the greatest but he is a hard worker always has been … if not then why was he “C” in NY ? … its not always about goals and points sometimes its about just plain old hard work.

  18. #20 Chuck Lefley says:
    June 16, 2007 at 10:09 pm

    Cullimore – isn’t this his second time around with the Habs? He was useless the first and will be useless the second. Habs need scoring up front – not sure how this deal helps them other than get rid of Samsonov – either way anyone who comes in that is a half decent scorer will sit in Carbo’s doghouse he just doesn’t get the new NHL.

  19. #21 Habs#1 says:
    June 16, 2007 at 11:21 pm

    Trading for Lecavelier is a pipe dream. It’s a nice dream to have but it won’t happen. The only way the Habs would get Vinny is to have a massive package involving Price, and trading him would be the worst mistakes the Habs will have made since trading Roy. You don’t trade goalie’s like this and Gainey knows this.

    Vinny will not be a Hab till 2009 at the earliest when he becomes UFA. Look for Marleau at the draft, I have a feeling that a trade with the Sharks to get him.

  20. #22 Snake says:
    June 17, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    Gainey is really working Doug Wilson right now to let Marleau free. Ryder would have to be one of the peices going back but who else? Obviously they dont need a goalie. Marleau would improve this team instantly. I hope Murray Wilson gets on the phone with his bro and asks for a favour.

  21. #23 Don Carnage says:
    June 17, 2007 at 3:27 pm

    It was pretty clear they are gonna buy out Culli’s contract get a clue all ready … it was brillant to get some poor sod to take Sammi to start with …

  22. #24 MadManPaddy says:
    June 17, 2007 at 5:08 pm

    So long Sammy! About time…..I never liked that signing from the start! We already had 2 lazy russians in Kovy and Perezhogin. Forget Briere, forget Drury, forget Marleau….go after Hartnell and Allison and then fill in the rest with youngsters. Trade Huet and Let Price lead the way much like a certain P. Roy did 20 years ago!

    GO Habs Go!!

  23. #25 MadManPaddy says:
    June 17, 2007 at 5:09 pm

    So long Sammy! About time…..I never liked that signing from the start! We already had 2 lazy russians in Kovy and Perezhogin. Forget Briere, forget Drury, forget Marleau….go after Hartnell and Allison and then fill in the rest with youngsters.

    GO Habs Go!!

  24. #26 nigelski says:
    June 17, 2007 at 5:18 pm

    Why did Yashin have the ‘C’ in Long Island? Another genius move by Mike Milbury, that’s why. Not, and I repeat, not, because Yashin works hard, or is some kind of leader. If you look at management and ownership in LI (read: the aptly named Charles Wang), you’ll smell the stench of some of the questionable moves they made in the last ten years or so. There’s no point cataloguing Mad Mike’s list of infamies–they’re easily googled–but a ten year deal and the ‘C’ for Spezza, Chara, and Mukalt was a fleece job by any standards.
    Yashin’s career playoff #s:

    Total NHL 48gp; 11g; 16a; 27p; +/- -16; 24pim; 170 shots; 6.47 shooting %

    He had zero points in 5 playoff games this past post season, and was playing less than 14 minutes most nights, seeing 3rd/4th line duties, and spotted time on the PP.

    The simple fact, Don Carnage, is that Yashin doesn’t get it done when it counts.

    I respect everyone’s right to their own opinion, but I vehemently disagree with yopur assessment of Yashin. He DOESN’T use his size, he DOESN’T dig in the corners, he DOESN’T have any heart, and lastly, and most damning, he DOESN’T care about anyone but Yashin.

    There’s a book on Yashin that says if you hit him, he slinks away. Oh, I agree, he has reach, and all the skill a guy could wish for. But he’s as soft as Cottonelle–and likely as easy to wipe your *** with.

    Why sign a guy you just know will dissapoint come playoff time?

  25. #27 Paul says:
    June 17, 2007 at 8:27 pm

    You frogs don’t know what you are talking about. Because the Habs-not had a bad season you want to blame it on one person. You will never make it to the Stanley cup as long as you you the same two people coaching and as the general manager. The days of a team with nothing but french players is gone. There are not enough french players left to help montreal. Sergai will do good in Chicago

  26. #28 Gui-Unit says:
    June 17, 2007 at 9:18 pm Emelin signs in Russia for 2 years, DAMN THESE RUSSIANS!

  27. #29 Higgy21 says:
    June 17, 2007 at 9:41 pm


    Why dont we just bring back Turner Stevenson. HE has more foot speed.

  28. #30 joshtm says:
    June 18, 2007 at 9:29 am

    At least we got rid of Samsonov. Garbage in, Garbage out. Gainey playing GM of the minor leagues again.

  29. Agreed joshtm, It still blows me away that after that horrific signing of Samsonov last year”getting someone to help Kovalev,lol”,and the terrible year our Habs had,some of the praise Gainey’s getting.Realisticly,Bob hasn’t done the things he needs to do and it shows in the stats ! I mean if there going to fire Muckler and his team makes it to the finals ? I think this is a make or break year for Bob and Carbo.

  30. #32 joshtm says:
    June 18, 2007 at 3:11 pm

    Salamander and Cullimore are both small fry. Chances are because they are small, they will don Habs uniforms and help to showcase Crazy Bob’s dream of a midget Habs league! Isn’t Crazy Bob too crazy? Chances are he ain’t gonna spend the extra money to retain Sheldon, but instead invest in some more midget hockey players cause hey Crazy Bob is on a Crazy stint of showcasing Midget Hockey players in the hopes that an entire team of midget hockey players will overwhelm and shock and awe the entire NHL into well, Shock and Awe. but no, Charra, Getzlaf, Bertuzzi and heck the Neidermeyer boys will eat the Habs for breakfast!

  31. #33 Habs#1 says:
    June 18, 2007 at 3:12 pm

    Boy, the Flyers started early! They traded the first round pick they got for Forsberg back to the Preds for the negociating rights to Timonen and Hartnell and then got both of them signed to 6 year deals.

    I didn’t want Timonen cause he’s already 32, but Hartnell was only 25 and had tons of grit to go with his skill. I really wanted Hartnell on the Habs. Oh well, the Flyers over paid for the both of them:

    “Hartnell, who was scheduled to become a free agent on July 1, signed with Flyers on a 6-year, $25.2 million deal for a cap hit of $4.2 million per year.

    The Flyers also agreed to terms with Timonen on a 6-year, $37.8 million contract for an annual cap hit of $6.3 million”

    Marleau baby! I still feel it coming! And what has Gainey done to improve the team?

    Umm….Price, Carle, Fisher, Latendresse, Valentenko, Emelin, Chipchura, Sergei Kostitsyn, Grabovski, Streit, Mathieu Aubin, MattD’Agostini, Ben Maxwell and Ryan White. All in juniors or AHL and all played extremely well last year and were drafted by Gainey.

    If he hadn’t traded for Huet we’d probably still have Jose Theodore as the starter.

    This team actually has depth for the frist time in 20 years and he’s done a good job cleaning up the horrible mess that Houle and Andre Savard left behind.

  32. Joshtm, you are a fool. Cullimore is 6’5″ and 245lbs. How is that small fry?

  33. #35 Lucky says:
    June 18, 2007 at 5:02 pm

    did Emelin sign with the habs? I heard he signed with a Russian team
    does anyone know?

  34. #36 Habs#1 says:
    June 18, 2007 at 5:27 pm

    Apparently Emelin is very close to coming over and joining the Habs. And if he does apparently he’ll be with the big team and not in Hamilton.

  35. sorry guys, Emelin signed a new two year contract with a team in russia.

  36. #38 Habs#1 says:
    June 18, 2007 at 7:24 pm

    Contracts with Russian teams don’t mean jack. He can get out of it at any time. Valentenko was under contract with his Russian team when the Habs got him. Evgeni Malkin was under contract when the Pens got him. Same with Zherdev in Columbus.

    Him signing in Russia doesn’t mean anything.

  37. #39 MadManPaddy says:
    June 18, 2007 at 8:44 pm

    Higgy21….make fun of my sugg. to sign Allison all ya want….slow or not he is still PPG player of which Les habitants have ZERO!!!!!! He pots em’ and thats what it is all about baby!!!!

    Hey joshtm…..i have been looking through all of the different blogs on this site and your messages are all the same…you don’t like bob……you need counselling man…seriously! Get over it cause he is not going are a huge pessimist.

  38. #40 PACTUM SERVA says:
    June 18, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    Boston hired claude julian as coach

  39. #41 Don Carnage says:
    June 18, 2007 at 11:47 pm

    Good for Boston, bad for Habs another team that will be fighting hard for a playoff spot next year. Josh oh man it never changes always the same ….


  41. #43 joshtm says:
    June 19, 2007 at 11:53 am

    All I am saying is Cullimore did not use his size never has probably never will. He is just another 6foot five inch 245 pound rag doll. Heck just replace Cullimore’s stats with any other Habs around that size, same thing. Johnson and Ninnima are classic examples, Markov another. Biron down in the Dogs another. The habs have hockey players who are assessed at playing below their capacity, nice way of saying, they are big lazy players who play like the wimps they are.

    Crazy Bob has a thing for wimps!

  42. #44 Rubberman says:
    June 19, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    Sorry, a little late!

    Paul, shove your “frog” comment up your ass. If anyone would say that to my face, I’d punch their *&#@ing lights out.

  43. #45 PACTUM SERVA says:
    June 19, 2007 at 5:08 pm

    No need to get all work up over cullimore, he will not be on the team

  44. #46 Don Carnage says:
    June 19, 2007 at 6:32 pm

    Josh has a thing for watching his Mom serve us her pink lemonaide …

  45. #47 Pepto says:
    June 19, 2007 at 8:05 pm

    Note for all you people out there that think Gainey is God once again for dumping Samsonov, Cullimore is a scandinavian version of Samsonov! Oh Gee! Gainey dumped Samsonov’s salary, actually the remainder of Samsonov’s salary plus buying out Cullimore’s…hmm…I don’t exactly see the saving there, either way you cut it, Gainey doesn’t have a lot of cap room left. The details are in the trade. I don’t see what is so great about that, it’s a moving out sale with Gainey paying someone once again at a garage sale price, with the Habs picking up the total tab!

    Cullimore’s name was mud in Chicago, oh great, for someone who’s contract is supposed bought out and he will never don a Habs uniform, guess again genuiuses, Cullimore’s stats show on the habs site, not exactly saying he ain’t never gonna play. Great, so we trade one nose bleeding Russian in the Bell Centre rafters with guess what, a Scandinavian nose bleeding prima donna!

    Salamander ain’t exactly hot neither, his TSN stats ain’t promising, they rate him as an underachiever as well….

    This is from the Internation Herald Tribune”Cullimore spent the last two seasons with the Blackhawks, appearing in 118 games and scoring two goals while totaling 117 penalty minutes. Salmelainen played one season with the Blackhawks, appearing in 57 games and scoring six goals.”

    And from the Daily Herald in Chicago: “Samsonov has one year remaining on his contract for $3.5 million, which the Canadiens desperately wanted off their books. Montreal GM Bob Gainey said after last season that the team did not want Samsonov back.

    In dealing Cullimore and Salmelainen, the Hawks moved out a total of $2.7 million in salary of players that did not fit into their plans either.

    “Basically we got a top-six forward for 800 grand,â€? Tallon said.”

    Guess with Chicago only paying 800 grand for Samsonov, guess who ends up footing the rest of Samsonov’s salary, yup, Montreal. So where’s the cap room eh guys? What so Great About Bob Gainey in that one?

    And getting rid of a prima donna whiner in return for two players who were a bust and basically replacing one crappy player with two, what is so great about that, it still leaves Montreal out 3.8 million! All we’ve done is free up Chicago’s cap space! Oh ya, Chicago just loves Bob now too! Further down in the Daily Herald’s story about Cullimore and Salamander: “The Hawks had been looking to move the disgruntled 34-year-old Cullimore and his $1.9 million salary since early last season.

    “It was not so much Cullimore’s play, it’s just that we wanted to open up a spot for one of our young defensemen such as (James) Wisniewski, (Danny) Richmond or (Dustin) Byfuglien,� Tallon said.

    According to a report by Canadian Press on Saturday, the Canadiens already have agreed to buy out the final year of Cullimore’s contract, making him an unrestricted free agent.

    Salmelainen, 25, was a big disappointment to the Hawks after arriving from Edmonton via Europe in the 2006 trade for Jaroslav Spacek.

    Salmelainen had good straight-ahead speed, but he never showed he could play in traffic or create his own chances and finished with just 6 goals and 11 assists in 57 games.

    “He didn’t get off to a good start and then some injuries hit him,â€? Tallon said. “It just didn’t work out for him with us.â€?”

    So here we are paying for two broken down concussion and hip damaged players who are exactly veterans, but play like the wimps they are. Hooray for Crazy Bob! Trading one crappy player for two!

    That ain’t exactly earth shattering stats for either player. Trading Samsonov and buying out Cullimore doesn’t give Gainey room this year, or later in the year and early next year. Gainey has to wait two years to take advantage of the cap room created with getting rid of Samsonov. Essentially its a continuation of Gainey’s Great Welfare Plan for Russian Prima Donna’s…next to Crazy Bob’s

  46. #48 Joshtm says:
    June 19, 2007 at 8:15 pm

    Way to go Pepto, once again hitting the nail on the head, while enjoying Crazy Bob patting your behind and drinking your pink lemonade! Actually Pepto, both teams are wasting money either way, neither team wins. You have some saying a buyout is two thirds of either, so really two thirds of 3.8 million for Samsonov, only cost Chicago 800 thousand after the transaction, and a saving of two million for the Hawks and a hit for Montreal of both Salamander’s salary and Cullimore’s buyout of 600 thousand per year, totaling almost Montreal 2.1919 million over two years after all is said and done…so really Chicago makes a profit at Montreals expense and diminishes Gainey’s salary cap over the two years he is buying out Cullimore and paying for Salamander and the remainder of Sammy’s contract! Whatever terms they both agree to. You can bet the Hawks being an American team will get the profit out of this, you can bet the Rat Bettman will make sure Montreal pays for this!

  47. #49 Don Carnage says:
    June 19, 2007 at 9:19 pm

    Right we will pay after the fact … take your meds today Josh?

    Looking forward to the draft always exciting !!!

  48. #50 MadmanPaddy says:
    June 19, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    Hey rubberman…..I agree there is no room for the “frog” comment but dude…I gotta say…your pretty tough talkin’ that way on the internet. HAHAHAHA! No risk there for ya eh!!! Don’t punch me to hard now…ow, that hurt!!!HAHAHAHAHA

    I was looking for some real hockey talk on this site and what I have found is a bunch of 7 years olds masquerading as adults.

    You guys are unreal!

    Grow up, all of ya!

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