Sheldon Souray Contract Offer
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The Canadiens made their first official contract offer to Sheldon Souray.
By the comments of Sheldon’s agent it doesn’t look like it was anything that shocked them.
“We got the offer,” he told the paper. “It’s May, late May, but it’s still early, and we’re just going to sit here and evaluate Sheldon’s free-agent options over the next couple of weeks.”
By the sounds of it, it seems they intend to test the market as most everyone expected.
If that’s the case then Sheldon Souray will have been lost for nothing, in a year the Habs didn’t even qualify for the playoffs.
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- Senet1 : Not counting Markov if he plays. If we trade or let go of our UFA defenceman then we will need at least three D-men, I would like a good look at Nash to see if he can play at this level. If not he is gone, I do not think any of our other defensive prospects are ready quite yet. Our junior and college players should be coming on stream for Hamilton next year so we will get to see how much they have developed and whether any are ready for the big time.
- Senet1 : While I agree we have quite a few players that could be made available, I do not see a need to make wholesale changes only the necessary one. obviously Gomez, Gionta, AK46(if he will not sign) I keep our top line of Cole, Pacman and David. I keep Eller and Leblanc, Blunden, Bourque, probably Plecanec unless we can really improve on his positin. I keep PK, Emelin, Gorges, Diaz and Naturally Price. Probably Budaj. That basically gives us two functional line and two sets of defence, not counting
- goalie : Great to see Pacs gets su=ome success after the devestating dirty check last season that could have paralyzed him for life.
- goalie : Given ho the team has played this season one thing in our favor is that we pretty much need to clean house. Other than about 6-7 guys everyone else would be available in my mind.
- goalie : After how the tes]am has
- Avatar37 : Apparently only one offer for Carter on the low side so far, I think Montreal would be foolish not to investigate the possibility of a trade for him, and if there is low interest, the deal might be able to include moving Gomez. Gomez/Darche/Cam poli and a third round pick? Maybe not, but I'd be in serious talks with Columbus right about now.
- Avatar37 : «link»
- Avatar37 : for him had we held on to him until now and created a bidding war. There are more buyers than sellers currently on the market and it would have been the perfect time to have traded him.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - I'm not sure how we could have obtained more for Halak. We showcased him, everyone knew he was available for trade, and in the end, we took the best offer. Any asset is only worth what a purchaser will pay for it. The Halak trade wasn't like the Cammalleri trade where you had GMs afterwards saying they didn't even know he was on the market. The Halak trade was done properly, the Cammelleri trade was a knee-jerk panic move, and while my opinion is that we could have received more
- Avatar37 : I saw the game, the Islanders first goal came from a shot that was clearly above the height of the crossbar. How is it possible for a play to go to review where they have the advantage of mulitple camera angles and the ability to pause and they STILL get the call wrong?
- goalie : I agree don't get dilusional over our three game winning streak. Changes MUST be made. I am however, glad to see the effort being put forth by the players.
- Mats Naslund : I just went to capgeek to see who the Avalanche might be dealing for a rental - and I see they have only 6 players signed for next season!!! There are a couple young D men on that squad who are RFAs who would do very nicely next season.
- Mats Naslund : One thing I know - the 3 game winning streak had better not get PG thinking about holding onto guys for a PO run. Trade them, build the value and move on to next year.
- Mats Naslund : How about Max Pac though.. 21 goals and on pace for 65 points this year. That is absolutely monster for a guy at his age/experience and especially coming after a horrific injury. Huge cornerstone moving forward. On pace for 33 goals.. could he get 35?
- Mats Naslund : Didn't get to see it either - and while I don't really care about the win, I am very glad that Gomez scored so we don't have to endure all of the negativity in the media about him for the rest of the year. He still su@ks, but at least it won't be a topic every shift he takes.
- goalie : Didn't get to see the game at all but it's great to see Pacs get a hat trick and fpor Cole to be + 3. When was the last time this team won three games in a row? Great victory -looks like they're giving 100% effort!
- Senet1 : 4-2 win habs
- Senet1 : Gomez scores, Yea!!!
- goalie : As I said yesterday it will be interesting to see what our lame ass GM gets for players he ships out. Bourque is good and he'll help us but I still think we could have gotten more for him and for Halak when he was traded.
- Avatar37 : round those picks occur (probably 3rd).
- Avatar37 : An interesting article. If we slip to the 5th or 7th draft pick, a very interesting case could be made for drafting Galchenyuk. If we wind up with the second or third pick, I'm not sure who I'd draft, because clearly Yakupov is going to be drafted first overall. Our second round pick also becomes interesting, I know I'd take Vasilevski if he were still available. It will also be interesting to see if we can turn some of our veteran players (Moen, Gill, Campoli) into draft picks, and what
- Avatar37 : «link»
- Avatar37 : That is why PG should have waited on trading Cammalleri. Right now, there is a high demand for a top 6 forward, we could have gotten much more than Bourque in return. That isn't a knock against Bourque, but a knock against a knee-jerk reaction trade that didn't maximize our return on a top asset.
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- Avatar37 : chips fall where they may. After all, the only difference between finishing 17th and 29th is how good a pick you get in the draft.
- Avatar37 : We currently sit in 26th place in the league. We are 15 points ahead of Columbus, it's safe to bet at this point they will place last. We are, however, only 4 points ahead of Edmonton so it's still wide open as to who is going to finish second last. I still think that it's time to sit the veterans, play the youth, let them get experience, and regroup for next year. I'm not suggesting deliberately tanking like the Penguins, but give all our young players lots of playing time and let the c
- Avatar37 : goalie - If it were not for the play of Cammalleri, we would never have made it out of round 1. Cammalleri played as big a part, if not bigger, than Halak did. Sure, Halak played well, but remember the team collapsed in front of him, making his job much easier. We had lots of blocked shots and the ones that got through were typically from the outside.
- Senet1 : Goalie you are absolutely right, of course the one thing we had the two previous years that won the games that we are losing this year was our power play. If you look at say 10 games that we should have won had we had a similar power play, again we would not be having these conversations. When your PP goes from first to last in the league that is a lot of goals.How many games have we lost this year by one goal. Again poor management who did not prepare for Markov's possible absence.
- goalie : I'll put it another way.... we need more players who are willing to get their noses dirty.
- goalie : Two years ago when our goaltending stole series adn our players suddenly scored the coaches / GM believed that that was our true team . Well time has proven that was not. Though I was very glad to see the Habs knock off some very good teams we were very fortunate. And fortunate that spring was spelled HALAK!
- goalie : The wrst mistake management could possibly make I believe is to say, we played well some games and we believe the team can play to that level more often in the future. This team CANNOT adnb DOES NOT play to a high enough level. Please do not kid yourself mamngement. hat is partially why we're in the lace we are.
- goalie : Senet is correct when he says that if we had more games with a better efort this year we'd likely be in the playoffs. It has been very inconsistent effort but much more than that. We lack big, tough playing and finishing. Never mind fighting for a moment. We did not compete for the pucks nor along the boards nor in front of both nets enough this year. Thus we are in 29th. If the coaching staff doesn't see that then they shouldn't be there.
- Senet1 : Surely Molson is not going to keep him as the GM?
- Senet1 : when he knows he will be fired at the end of the season. Nothing really makes since in this whole process.
- Senet1 : I am not sue why PG has not been fired by now. They could be waiting for another GM to come available at season end, but why would you not set up a committee to manage the team in the short run until a new GM can be named. There is no since in chaning coaches because whoever the GM is he will want to name his own coach. Gainey and a committe of other executives can manage the team through to the trading deadline and onward. What motivation does PG have to making any worthwhile trades when he is
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June 13, 2007 at 5:10 pm
He is a bit heavier now though
June 13, 2007 at 5:12 pm
WOW JOSHTM, your lack of habs knowledge is upsetting. Price not big? HE IS HUGE!!!!! HE is Giguere like size. HE IS A MONSTER. Get your facts straight buddy.
ANd wha tis this about being too old in 4 years. What are you mumbling about. Come by Stoney and I will straighten you out little boy.
June 13, 2007 at 6:09 pm
He is listed as 212lbs on tsn, but when roland melanson was talking about him, he described him as exactly what i wrote. 6’3″, 225lbs. like snake said, HUGE.
June 13, 2007 at 6:16 pm
When you have the likes of Getzlaf and Pronger blitzing the net, 225 lbs is peanuts. And worst still when you have Markov blitzing the net too to knock over his own goalie, and throw in Dandenault and Bouillon tag teaming against the habs goalie when Markov is not on the ice, heck Montreal doesn’t need anyone blitzing their own net, not when your own defense is murdering its own goalie….I’ll give Price at least four games before the combination of Markov, Dandenault and Bouillon assassinate Price.
But amongst you mental midgets anyone over six feet is a giant. But hey look at the minch meat they routinely make of Johnson who has almost the same dimensions and weight, heck he’s nothing, he gets knocked around like he’s a feather out there….or even Ninnima, who is another rag doll yet has size and a bit of weight but, do these pricks know how to use that to their advantage? No.
Hey Snake missed your great wit and sarcasm. So what do you think of Esposito and others who are showing their stuff at the pre-draft workouts at the Habs gym? No wonder we seem to draft small players, it’s sad when you have an insecure recruiter like Trevor Timmins, who is a midget, of course being insecure he aint gonna go after size….its time Montreal got some real hockey players as recruiters and GMs and Coaches, enough of these platform wearing polyester cowboy wannabees we seem to be stuck with lately….like Crazy Bob and One Arm Bandit Guy….it makes sense now.
And come to think of it, all you jerks out there who think Bob is doing great support the smaller acquisitions of late….if you are a small loser, of course you associate with other small losers…no wonder. It makes sense now. Bob Gainey, king of the one eyed midget Habs fans…..
June 13, 2007 at 6:25 pm
Joshtm, if you’re using Dryden as you’re size example, consider that he was 15 pounds lighter than Price, while being 1 inch taller. While I’m sure any rational person could deduce that this proves Price is actually more heavily built than Dryden, I’ll bet it twists your panties into a tight little bunch. I understand this whole concept of FACT is difficult for you to comprehend, but i’m going to throw this out for you anyways.
June 13, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Hey JOsh;
If Gainey trades up to get Esposito and then spends all of cap space to sign Kariya then I will agree with you. But if he signs a playe rlike Hartnell and drafts a big rugged d man I expect you to chill out.
p.s can you bring my a carton of players?
June 13, 2007 at 8:13 pm
If gainey signs Yashin or another soft, past there best before date ufa, i’m going to puke. If i could pick any player that would be the last thing we need it would probably be yashin, and i don’t really care what he did a decade ago. if we sign Yashin Joshtm may be right when he says montreal is a retirement home for over the hill former stars, or was it broke down vets.
June 13, 2007 at 9:30 pm
I would trade Price for Lecavalier. Even though he might be great, it might come back to haunt us. There’s no guarantee he’ll be a great (Patrick Roy) type of player. Lecavalier would be bring his goal scoring touch, which would impact the team right away. The pressure would be off Koivu and he’ll probably have even better success.
Lastly, the Habs could kept the goaltending duo they have now and shop for a goalie in 2/3 yrs.
Did I say that Vinny would score 50/60 goals for the next 5-6 seasons and this alone might encourage other Canadian born players to come here (e.g. Sid the Kid)…
June 13, 2007 at 10:15 pm
Which scenerio would you be the most pleased with after free agency
a) We sign Ian Lapierre, wes walz and resign Souray.
b) We sign Timonnen and Yashin and Sammy stays.
c) Souray resigns and we sign Hartnell
d) We acquire Brad richards through trade for draft picks but dont sign anyone
e) We sign Hannan, schneider but no forwards.
f) We sign Bertuzzi and resign souray
g) The habs acquire Mother Joshtm to serve pink lemonade at the games.
June 13, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Josh, you might have your bone to pick with Gainey for some bad moves (even thought the good outweigh the bad) don’t you DARE say anything about Trevore Timmins!!! He is a god!
June 13, 2007 at 11:23 pm
Post 209
G is my final answer.
I heart pink lemonade…. maybe samsonov, kovalev and yashin can help her out? More work then what their doing on the ice anyway.
June 14, 2007 at 3:52 pm
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://rds.ca/canadien/
Hamiltons looking good with new prospects…
June 14, 2007 at 5:19 pm
I’d prefer scenario e). The last one is a solid choice to.
Thank god Valentenko is under contract now. With him, Carle, Fischer and O’Byrne coming up the habs will have one of the best D’s in the league in front of Price. Up next is Emelin hopefully.
And I have a feeling the Habs are going to make a serious pitch for Marleau at the draft. Let’s say one of the two 1rst round picks, Grabovski, Dandenault(they are desperet for veteran dmen apparently) and a couple more draft picks. Marleau could very well be slipping on a Habs jersey next weekend. Drury wants to go to San Jose so they chose Thornton over Marleau.
June 14, 2007 at 9:52 pm
Let Sheldon Souray leave Habs. Souray is a good blue liner, but he is also the rust of Habs. He sometimes has no morale. You know what I mean.
Think about ZDENO CHARA, another blue liner. He left Ottawa, but then Ottawa played better and better.
June 14, 2007 at 10:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFL1e1SRWuI
June 14, 2007 at 11:20 pm
I too have a feeling about Marleau.
June 15, 2007 at 6:05 am
Some of you have great ideas to help the team, others have some ideas that, at best, aren’t terribly realistic. But it’s good to see fans getting back into the swing of things leading up to the draft next weekend.
Speaking of next weekends’s draft, we should have a live blog or specific thread set up specifically for the day’s mutterings. With any luck, it will be more eventful than last year’s draft, which featured few trades, and even fewer surprises. For our team certainly, and on a league wide basis also.
Leading up to that, let’s all come up with our wish list/predictions for next Saturday, and post them prior to that. After it’s all said and done, we can discuss who was right, who was way off, who SHOULD have been right, and what not, over pink lemonade.
Myself, I’ll be posting my ideas once I have a chance to look at central scouting and some other sites–so likely by the end of the weekend.
Let the bear-baiting begin!
June 15, 2007 at 12:19 pm
http://www.nhl.com/trophies/clancy.html
This is for those of you that do not believe Saku does not have the make-up of a captain. As voted by the players I believe…cough cough (Joshtm) Old Mister hook himself…LOL
June 15, 2007 at 1:09 pm
Wow, I guess above double negative first sentence is saying the opposite of my intent:
should read;
“This is for those of you that believe Saku does not have the make-up of a captain.”
June 15, 2007 at 4:22 pm
higgy and komi re-signed for 2 more years each.
June 15, 2007 at 6:30 pm
Both signed for 1.5 mil.this season and 1.9 mil. for the following season….with Valentenko signed and Emelin almost signed its good too see the Habs continue to build within.
June 15, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Hey Joshtm;
Both Komi and Higgy for two years signed. Both bargain prices. Lets hear it for Gainey. ALso he got it done fast which means come free agency we know were we sit. Excellent job Gainey. Just Plekanec and Ferland are RFA’s left. Plek at 1.2 and Ferland well league minimum if he wants to stay.
June 15, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Dont be silly it cant be that Crazy Bob is doing something right , he wants this team to lose , he is crazy !!!! How the hell can they give an award to capt’in Hook ??? WTF is going in here? We need Josh’s mom’s pink juice in here quick!!!
LMAO …………….
Good to see Hig and Kom back for 2 more years with Carbonic ready to abuse them :0)
June 15, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Way to go Pepto, you make some great points!!!!
June 15, 2007 at 8:03 pm
Welcome to the Habs and the Mini-Habs. Crazy Bob’s Center For Broken Down Hockey Players Who Can’t Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too Center….yes you too can be paid millions of dollars, as long as you are not over six feet tall and must weigh less than 220 pounds, and be able to skate fast and fall down good…..team players not wanted, we want those Russian, American players, Swiss and French players who don’t know how to pass, or set up plays and who would rather get sissy penalties, fighters not welcome, do you meet these criteria? Proof of near life threatening injury, or proof of concussion, proof of lower body injury sustained during hockey season as eligible criteria, only those players who qualify for pain killer prescriptions Need Apply: HEALTHY CANADIAN BORN HOCKEY PLAYERS WHO ARE OVER SIX FEET TALL AND WEIGH MORE THAN 240 POUNDS NEED NOT APPLY!
Yes, if you are an alkie, a pill popping junkie, a wife beater, a paranoid schizoid….Then CRAZY BOB and One ARM-BANDIT GUY have a spot for you at the Habs Crazy Bob’s Center For Broken Down Hockey Players Who Can’t Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too Center….call 1-800-MASH 4007
June 15, 2007 at 8:29 pm
Doesn’t little Sakku remind you of Zoolander? That would make Gainey that short fat bald Mortie or whatever his name is, and Dandy and Bouilly, Sammy and Kovalev the rest of the airheads…hahahaha!!!!!!
June 16, 2007 at 7:25 am
Poor Josh he cant handle it , he has lost it !!
June 16, 2007 at 11:31 am
I was fortunate enough to be present when Higgs and Komi signed their contract. They did it immediately after a hard work-out, both sweating and totally committed. Look for them to not only live up to their contract, but exceed it..No BSing around for those boys..
GP
June 16, 2007 at 1:05 pm
breaking news sergei samsonov traded to blackhawks for jason collimore and tony salmelainen. it also says that the habs will probably buy out jason collimore’s contract which i’m sure is cheaper than samsonov. this is great news for habs fans now we have more money to pick up key free agents we need
June 16, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Gainey is god
June 16, 2007 at 1:16 pm
http://tsn.ca/
June 16, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Where did you read that?
June 16, 2007 at 1:19 pm
Samsonov gone. May we never mention his name again. HE is old news. Lets all move on.
240lbs? Nobody wighs that much! WE dont need fat slobs. Dennis Vial has retired.
June 16, 2007 at 1:19 pm
Great going Bob !! Now where is Josh with more how Crazy Bob is and all that ****?
June 17, 2007 at 9:56 pm
Bye Bye Sergi…and headlines for first week of July “Bye Bye Sheldon”. It’s pretty obvious Shelly’s thinking “show me the money Mr. McGuire!” However much the habs offered him, it’s about 1 mil/yr less than L.A./Anaheim/San Jose will offer, and he’ll take the California sunshining offer and smile. I think being in those commercials on TV during the hoopla of the All Star game put a little Hollywood in his head.
On a better note…just how good is Price gonna be? How about this for open comment…headlines about 20+ years from now…”Habs retire netminder Price’s number and are known for having undoubtedly the 2 best goalies in hockey history.” Could he be that good? Remember when Patrick was in his rookie year? What did he do but single handedly win us the cup!!! And who did he have around him…some solid defence and a handful of 25+ scorers and 70+ pointers. No Crosbys/Prongers/LeCavaliers…it’s a team effort and if Sheldon wants out for more money, just replace him with someone proven. If you’re looking for a Lidstrom, ya ain’t gonna find it. Besides..let these tallented young guys show what they can do. The habs have enough question marks as far as young players…they can play but will they show-the-hell-up? Give em a true shot this year and let the cream rise to the top.
June 18, 2007 at 2:56 pm
With the buyout of Cullimore’s contract, this will free up dollars for Souray!
July 3, 2007 at 6:17 pm
i would rather have souray over markov anyday…..markov is more of a defensive defencemen but souray shot is to important on the powerplay….even the goals scored on the powerplay that souray didnt get mostly only happened because the other team focuses on souray….
5.5 mil? no doubt….id give him 12mill over two yrs.
July 14, 2007 at 10:51 pm
Just what we need …a Radik Bonk on defense…aka Roman Hamrlik..or whatever