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Sheldon Souray Contract Offer

  • The Canadiens made their first official contract offer to Sheldon Souray.

    By the comments of Sheldon’s agent it doesn’t look like it was anything that shocked them.

    “We got the offer,” he told the paper. “It’s May, late May, but it’s still early, and we’re just going to sit here and evaluate Sheldon’s free-agent options over the next couple of weeks.”

    By the sounds of it, it seems they intend to test the market as most everyone expected.

    If that’s the case then Sheldon Souray will have been lost for nothing, in a year the Habs didn’t even qualify for the playoffs.

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  1. #1 PACTUM SERVA says:
    June 13, 2007 at 5:10 pm

    He is a bit heavier now though

  2. #2 Snake says:
    June 13, 2007 at 5:12 pm

    WOW JOSHTM, your lack of habs knowledge is upsetting. Price not big? HE IS HUGE!!!!! HE is Giguere like size. HE IS A MONSTER. Get your facts straight buddy.

    ANd wha tis this about being too old in 4 years. What are you mumbling about. Come by Stoney and I will straighten you out little boy.

  3. #3 JP says:
    June 13, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    He is listed as 212lbs on tsn, but when roland melanson was talking about him, he described him as exactly what i wrote. 6’3″, 225lbs. like snake said, HUGE.

  4. #4 Joshtm says:
    June 13, 2007 at 6:16 pm

    When you have the likes of Getzlaf and Pronger blitzing the net, 225 lbs is peanuts. And worst still when you have Markov blitzing the net too to knock over his own goalie, and throw in Dandenault and Bouillon tag teaming against the habs goalie when Markov is not on the ice, heck Montreal doesn’t need anyone blitzing their own net, not when your own defense is murdering its own goalie….I’ll give Price at least four games before the combination of Markov, Dandenault and Bouillon assassinate Price.

    But amongst you mental midgets anyone over six feet is a giant. But hey look at the minch meat they routinely make of Johnson who has almost the same dimensions and weight, heck he’s nothing, he gets knocked around like he’s a feather out there….or even Ninnima, who is another rag doll yet has size and a bit of weight but, do these pricks know how to use that to their advantage? No.

    Hey Snake missed your great wit and sarcasm. So what do you think of Esposito and others who are showing their stuff at the pre-draft workouts at the Habs gym? No wonder we seem to draft small players, it’s sad when you have an insecure recruiter like Trevor Timmins, who is a midget, of course being insecure he aint gonna go after size….its time Montreal got some real hockey players as recruiters and GMs and Coaches, enough of these platform wearing polyester cowboy wannabees we seem to be stuck with lately….like Crazy Bob and One Arm Bandit Guy….it makes sense now.

    And come to think of it, all you jerks out there who think Bob is doing great support the smaller acquisitions of late….if you are a small loser, of course you associate with other small losers…no wonder. It makes sense now. Bob Gainey, king of the one eyed midget Habs fans…..

  5. #5 JP says:
    June 13, 2007 at 6:25 pm

    Joshtm, if you’re using Dryden as you’re size example, consider that he was 15 pounds lighter than Price, while being 1 inch taller. While I’m sure any rational person could deduce that this proves Price is actually more heavily built than Dryden, I’ll bet it twists your panties into a tight little bunch. I understand this whole concept of FACT is difficult for you to comprehend, but i’m going to throw this out for you anyways.

  6. #6 Snake says:
    June 13, 2007 at 7:20 pm

    Hey JOsh;

    If Gainey trades up to get Esposito and then spends all of cap space to sign Kariya then I will agree with you. But if he signs a playe rlike Hartnell and drafts a big rugged d man I expect you to chill out.

    p.s can you bring my a carton of players?

  7. #7 LJ55 says:
    June 13, 2007 at 8:13 pm

    If gainey signs Yashin or another soft, past there best before date ufa, i’m going to puke. If i could pick any player that would be the last thing we need it would probably be yashin, and i don’t really care what he did a decade ago. if we sign Yashin Joshtm may be right when he says montreal is a retirement home for over the hill former stars, or was it broke down vets.

  8. #8 Rubberman says:
    June 13, 2007 at 9:30 pm

    I would trade Price for Lecavalier. Even though he might be great, it might come back to haunt us. There’s no guarantee he’ll be a great (Patrick Roy) type of player. Lecavalier would be bring his goal scoring touch, which would impact the team right away. The pressure would be off Koivu and he’ll probably have even better success.

    Lastly, the Habs could kept the goaltending duo they have now and shop for a goalie in 2/3 yrs.

    Did I say that Vinny would score 50/60 goals for the next 5-6 seasons and this alone might encourage other Canadian born players to come here (e.g. Sid the Kid)…

  9. #9 Snake says:
    June 13, 2007 at 10:15 pm

    Which scenerio would you be the most pleased with after free agency

    a) We sign Ian Lapierre, wes walz and resign Souray.
    b) We sign Timonnen and Yashin and Sammy stays.
    c) Souray resigns and we sign Hartnell
    d) We acquire Brad richards through trade for draft picks but dont sign anyone
    e) We sign Hannan, schneider but no forwards.
    f) We sign Bertuzzi and resign souray
    g) The habs acquire Mother Joshtm to serve pink lemonade at the games.

  10. #10 habsfan_for_life1212 says:
    June 13, 2007 at 10:37 pm

    Josh, you might have your bone to pick with Gainey for some bad moves (even thought the good outweigh the bad) don’t you DARE say anything about Trevore Timmins!!! He is a god!

  11. #11 Habs8 says:
    June 13, 2007 at 11:23 pm

    Post 209

    G is my final answer.

    I heart pink lemonade…. maybe samsonov, kovalev and yashin can help her out? More work then what their doing on the ice anyway.

  12. #12 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    June 14, 2007 at 3:52 pm

    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://rds.ca/canadien/

    Hamiltons looking good with new prospects…

  13. #13 Habs#1 says:
    June 14, 2007 at 5:19 pm

    I’d prefer scenario e). The last one is a solid choice to.

    Thank god Valentenko is under contract now. With him, Carle, Fischer and O’Byrne coming up the habs will have one of the best D’s in the league in front of Price. Up next is Emelin hopefully.

    And I have a feeling the Habs are going to make a serious pitch for Marleau at the draft. Let’s say one of the two 1rst round picks, Grabovski, Dandenault(they are desperet for veteran dmen apparently) and a couple more draft picks. Marleau could very well be slipping on a Habs jersey next weekend. Drury wants to go to San Jose so they chose Thornton over Marleau.

  14. #14 Norman says:
    June 14, 2007 at 9:52 pm

    Let Sheldon Souray leave Habs. Souray is a good blue liner, but he is also the rust of Habs. He sometimes has no morale. You know what I mean.

    Think about ZDENO CHARA, another blue liner. He left Ottawa, but then Ottawa played better and better.

  16. #16 Pepto says:
    June 14, 2007 at 11:20 pm

    I too have a feeling about Marleau.

  17. #17 nigelski says:
    June 15, 2007 at 6:05 am

    Some of you have great ideas to help the team, others have some ideas that, at best, aren’t terribly realistic. But it’s good to see fans getting back into the swing of things leading up to the draft next weekend.

    Speaking of next weekends’s draft, we should have a live blog or specific thread set up specifically for the day’s mutterings. With any luck, it will be more eventful than last year’s draft, which featured few trades, and even fewer surprises. For our team certainly, and on a league wide basis also.

    Leading up to that, let’s all come up with our wish list/predictions for next Saturday, and post them prior to that. After it’s all said and done, we can discuss who was right, who was way off, who SHOULD have been right, and what not, over pink lemonade.

    Myself, I’ll be posting my ideas once I have a chance to look at central scouting and some other sites–so likely by the end of the weekend.

    Let the bear-baiting begin!

  18. #18 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    June 15, 2007 at 12:19 pm

    http://www.nhl.com/trophies/clancy.html

    This is for those of you that do not believe Saku does not have the make-up of a captain. As voted by the players I believe…cough cough (Joshtm) Old Mister hook himself…LOL

  19. #19 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    June 15, 2007 at 1:09 pm

    Wow, I guess above double negative first sentence is saying the opposite of my intent:

    should read;

    “This is for those of you that believe Saku does not have the make-up of a captain.”

  20. #20 Habs#1 says:
    June 15, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    higgy and komi re-signed for 2 more years each.

  21. #21 riser8 says:
    June 15, 2007 at 6:30 pm

    Both signed for 1.5 mil.this season and 1.9 mil. for the following season….with Valentenko signed and Emelin almost signed its good too see the Habs continue to build within.

  22. #22 Pepto says:
    June 15, 2007 at 7:31 pm

    Hey Joshtm;

    Both Komi and Higgy for two years signed. Both bargain prices. Lets hear it for Gainey. ALso he got it done fast which means come free agency we know were we sit. Excellent job Gainey. Just Plekanec and Ferland are RFA’s left. Plek at 1.2 and Ferland well league minimum if he wants to stay.

  23. #23 Don Carnage says:
    June 15, 2007 at 7:37 pm

    Dont be silly it cant be that Crazy Bob is doing something right , he wants this team to lose , he is crazy !!!! How the hell can they give an award to capt’in Hook ??? WTF is going in here? We need Josh’s mom’s pink juice in here quick!!!

    LMAO …………….

    Good to see Hig and Kom back for 2 more years with Carbonic ready to abuse them :0)

  24. #24 Joshtm says:
    June 15, 2007 at 7:39 pm

    Way to go Pepto, you make some great points!!!!

  25. #25 Joshtm says:
    June 15, 2007 at 8:03 pm

    Welcome to the Habs and the Mini-Habs. Crazy Bob’s Center For Broken Down Hockey Players Who Can’t Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too Center….yes you too can be paid millions of dollars, as long as you are not over six feet tall and must weigh less than 220 pounds, and be able to skate fast and fall down good…..team players not wanted, we want those Russian, American players, Swiss and French players who don’t know how to pass, or set up plays and who would rather get sissy penalties, fighters not welcome, do you meet these criteria? Proof of near life threatening injury, or proof of concussion, proof of lower body injury sustained during hockey season as eligible criteria, only those players who qualify for pain killer prescriptions Need Apply: HEALTHY CANADIAN BORN HOCKEY PLAYERS WHO ARE OVER SIX FEET TALL AND WEIGH MORE THAN 240 POUNDS NEED NOT APPLY!

    Yes, if you are an alkie, a pill popping junkie, a wife beater, a paranoid schizoid….Then CRAZY BOB and One ARM-BANDIT GUY have a spot for you at the Habs Crazy Bob’s Center For Broken Down Hockey Players Who Can’t Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too Center….call 1-800-MASH 4007

  26. #26 Joshtm says:
    June 15, 2007 at 8:29 pm

    Doesn’t little Sakku remind you of Zoolander? That would make Gainey that short fat bald Mortie or whatever his name is, and Dandy and Bouilly, Sammy and Kovalev the rest of the airheads…hahahaha!!!!!!

  27. #27 Don Carnage says:
    June 16, 2007 at 7:25 am

    Poor Josh he cant handle it , he has lost it !!

  28. #28 GP says:
    June 16, 2007 at 11:31 am

    I was fortunate enough to be present when Higgs and Komi signed their contract. They did it immediately after a hard work-out, both sweating and totally committed. Look for them to not only live up to their contract, but exceed it..No BSing around for those boys..
    GP

  29. #29 koivufan says:
    June 16, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    breaking news sergei samsonov traded to blackhawks for jason collimore and tony salmelainen. it also says that the habs will probably buy out jason collimore’s contract which i’m sure is cheaper than samsonov. this is great news for habs fans now we have more money to pick up key free agents we need

  30. #30 PACTUM SERVA says:
    June 16, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    Gainey is god

  31. #31 PACTUM SERVA says:
    June 16, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    http://tsn.ca/

  32. #32 Don Carnage says:
    June 16, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    Where did you read that?

  33. #33 Pepto says:
    June 16, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    Samsonov gone. May we never mention his name again. HE is old news. Lets all move on.

    240lbs? Nobody wighs that much! WE dont need fat slobs. Dennis Vial has retired.

  34. #34 Don Carnage says:
    June 16, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    Great going Bob !! Now where is Josh with more how Crazy Bob is and all that ****?

  35. #35 JohnnyB says:
    June 17, 2007 at 9:56 pm

    Bye Bye Sergi…and headlines for first week of July “Bye Bye Sheldon”. It’s pretty obvious Shelly’s thinking “show me the money Mr. McGuire!” However much the habs offered him, it’s about 1 mil/yr less than L.A./Anaheim/San Jose will offer, and he’ll take the California sunshining offer and smile. I think being in those commercials on TV during the hoopla of the All Star game put a little Hollywood in his head.

    On a better note…just how good is Price gonna be? How about this for open comment…headlines about 20+ years from now…”Habs retire netminder Price’s number and are known for having undoubtedly the 2 best goalies in hockey history.” Could he be that good? Remember when Patrick was in his rookie year? What did he do but single handedly win us the cup!!! And who did he have around him…some solid defence and a handful of 25+ scorers and 70+ pointers. No Crosbys/Prongers/LeCavaliers…it’s a team effort and if Sheldon wants out for more money, just replace him with someone proven. If you’re looking for a Lidstrom, ya ain’t gonna find it. Besides..let these tallented young guys show what they can do. The habs have enough question marks as far as young players…they can play but will they show-the-hell-up? Give em a true shot this year and let the cream rise to the top.

  36. #36 joshtm says:
    June 18, 2007 at 2:56 pm

    With the buyout of Cullimore’s contract, this will free up dollars for Souray!

  37. #37 les foldi says:
    July 3, 2007 at 6:17 pm

    i would rather have souray over markov anyday…..markov is more of a defensive defencemen but souray shot is to important on the powerplay….even the goals scored on the powerplay that souray didnt get mostly only happened because the other team focuses on souray….

    5.5 mil? no doubt….id give him 12mill over two yrs.

  38. #38 ray gaudreau says:
    July 14, 2007 at 10:51 pm

    Just what we need …a Radik Bonk on defense…aka Roman Hamrlik..or whatever

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  • Senet1 : He may just bring all three of the kids up.
  • muller93 : MB is forced to go out and get a big D-man. Missing Emelin for almost half the season is the last thing we needed to hear. Now going out and getting a big D-man is a MUST!!!
  • muller93 : Now for the Fu**en Bruins who have no business even being in the second round are going to get a nice rest. Yes the same goons who took out one of best D-man for 6 more months. There is NO Fu**en justice. Just venting--Ok i feel better now.
  • muller93 : So pissed to see the Rangers lay down and play like total crap. How did the Rangers beat the Caps? This team is playing with no heart--a must win and can only muster 23 shots...PATHETIC !!!
  • muller93 : Senet I did see Galchenyuks goal--Made a great move for the game winner. You can see the kid has so much confidence.
  • goalie : If Rangers get swept I wonder if Tortorella will get his walking papers? Or Glen Sather? They have tons of 'talent' but zero wins in this series.
  • goalie : It's really too bad we lost to the Sens as we would have played the Rangers and the way NYR are playing we would have beat them too. If only. If only!
  • Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
  • muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
  • Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
  • Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
  • Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
  • Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
  • Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
  • Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
  • Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
  • muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
  • muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
  • muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
  • goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
  • goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
  • goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
  • goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
  • muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
  • muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
  • Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
  • Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
  • muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
  • Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
  • muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
  • goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
  • muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
  • Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
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