Sheldon Souray Contract Offer
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The Canadiens made their first official contract offer to Sheldon Souray.
By the comments of Sheldon’s agent it doesn’t look like it was anything that shocked them.
“We got the offer,” he told the paper. “It’s May, late May, but it’s still early, and we’re just going to sit here and evaluate Sheldon’s free-agent options over the next couple of weeks.”
By the sounds of it, it seems they intend to test the market as most everyone expected.
If that’s the case then Sheldon Souray will have been lost for nothing, in a year the Habs didn’t even qualify for the playoffs.
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- Senet1 : It will be interesting to see how Sutter does because to me the Oilers are not his kind of team, but then again neither were the Flames.
- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
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June 13, 2007 at 5:10 pm
He is a bit heavier now though
June 13, 2007 at 5:12 pm
WOW JOSHTM, your lack of habs knowledge is upsetting. Price not big? HE IS HUGE!!!!! HE is Giguere like size. HE IS A MONSTER. Get your facts straight buddy.
ANd wha tis this about being too old in 4 years. What are you mumbling about. Come by Stoney and I will straighten you out little boy.
June 13, 2007 at 6:09 pm
He is listed as 212lbs on tsn, but when roland melanson was talking about him, he described him as exactly what i wrote. 6’3″, 225lbs. like snake said, HUGE.
June 13, 2007 at 6:16 pm
When you have the likes of Getzlaf and Pronger blitzing the net, 225 lbs is peanuts. And worst still when you have Markov blitzing the net too to knock over his own goalie, and throw in Dandenault and Bouillon tag teaming against the habs goalie when Markov is not on the ice, heck Montreal doesn’t need anyone blitzing their own net, not when your own defense is murdering its own goalie….I’ll give Price at least four games before the combination of Markov, Dandenault and Bouillon assassinate Price.
But amongst you mental midgets anyone over six feet is a giant. But hey look at the minch meat they routinely make of Johnson who has almost the same dimensions and weight, heck he’s nothing, he gets knocked around like he’s a feather out there….or even Ninnima, who is another rag doll yet has size and a bit of weight but, do these pricks know how to use that to their advantage? No.
Hey Snake missed your great wit and sarcasm. So what do you think of Esposito and others who are showing their stuff at the pre-draft workouts at the Habs gym? No wonder we seem to draft small players, it’s sad when you have an insecure recruiter like Trevor Timmins, who is a midget, of course being insecure he aint gonna go after size….its time Montreal got some real hockey players as recruiters and GMs and Coaches, enough of these platform wearing polyester cowboy wannabees we seem to be stuck with lately….like Crazy Bob and One Arm Bandit Guy….it makes sense now.
And come to think of it, all you jerks out there who think Bob is doing great support the smaller acquisitions of late….if you are a small loser, of course you associate with other small losers…no wonder. It makes sense now. Bob Gainey, king of the one eyed midget Habs fans…..
June 13, 2007 at 6:25 pm
Joshtm, if you’re using Dryden as you’re size example, consider that he was 15 pounds lighter than Price, while being 1 inch taller. While I’m sure any rational person could deduce that this proves Price is actually more heavily built than Dryden, I’ll bet it twists your panties into a tight little bunch. I understand this whole concept of FACT is difficult for you to comprehend, but i’m going to throw this out for you anyways.
June 13, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Hey JOsh;
If Gainey trades up to get Esposito and then spends all of cap space to sign Kariya then I will agree with you. But if he signs a playe rlike Hartnell and drafts a big rugged d man I expect you to chill out.
p.s can you bring my a carton of players?
June 13, 2007 at 8:13 pm
If gainey signs Yashin or another soft, past there best before date ufa, i’m going to puke. If i could pick any player that would be the last thing we need it would probably be yashin, and i don’t really care what he did a decade ago. if we sign Yashin Joshtm may be right when he says montreal is a retirement home for over the hill former stars, or was it broke down vets.
June 13, 2007 at 9:30 pm
I would trade Price for Lecavalier. Even though he might be great, it might come back to haunt us. There’s no guarantee he’ll be a great (Patrick Roy) type of player. Lecavalier would be bring his goal scoring touch, which would impact the team right away. The pressure would be off Koivu and he’ll probably have even better success.
Lastly, the Habs could kept the goaltending duo they have now and shop for a goalie in 2/3 yrs.
Did I say that Vinny would score 50/60 goals for the next 5-6 seasons and this alone might encourage other Canadian born players to come here (e.g. Sid the Kid)…
June 13, 2007 at 10:15 pm
Which scenerio would you be the most pleased with after free agency
a) We sign Ian Lapierre, wes walz and resign Souray.
b) We sign Timonnen and Yashin and Sammy stays.
c) Souray resigns and we sign Hartnell
d) We acquire Brad richards through trade for draft picks but dont sign anyone
e) We sign Hannan, schneider but no forwards.
f) We sign Bertuzzi and resign souray
g) The habs acquire Mother Joshtm to serve pink lemonade at the games.
June 13, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Josh, you might have your bone to pick with Gainey for some bad moves (even thought the good outweigh the bad) don’t you DARE say anything about Trevore Timmins!!! He is a god!
June 13, 2007 at 11:23 pm
Post 209
G is my final answer.
I heart pink lemonade…. maybe samsonov, kovalev and yashin can help her out? More work then what their doing on the ice anyway.
June 14, 2007 at 3:52 pm
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://rds.ca/canadien/
Hamiltons looking good with new prospects…
June 14, 2007 at 5:19 pm
I’d prefer scenario e). The last one is a solid choice to.
Thank god Valentenko is under contract now. With him, Carle, Fischer and O’Byrne coming up the habs will have one of the best D’s in the league in front of Price. Up next is Emelin hopefully.
And I have a feeling the Habs are going to make a serious pitch for Marleau at the draft. Let’s say one of the two 1rst round picks, Grabovski, Dandenault(they are desperet for veteran dmen apparently) and a couple more draft picks. Marleau could very well be slipping on a Habs jersey next weekend. Drury wants to go to San Jose so they chose Thornton over Marleau.
June 14, 2007 at 9:52 pm
Let Sheldon Souray leave Habs. Souray is a good blue liner, but he is also the rust of Habs. He sometimes has no morale. You know what I mean.
Think about ZDENO CHARA, another blue liner. He left Ottawa, but then Ottawa played better and better.
June 14, 2007 at 10:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFL1e1SRWuI
June 14, 2007 at 11:20 pm
I too have a feeling about Marleau.
June 15, 2007 at 6:05 am
Some of you have great ideas to help the team, others have some ideas that, at best, aren’t terribly realistic. But it’s good to see fans getting back into the swing of things leading up to the draft next weekend.
Speaking of next weekends’s draft, we should have a live blog or specific thread set up specifically for the day’s mutterings. With any luck, it will be more eventful than last year’s draft, which featured few trades, and even fewer surprises. For our team certainly, and on a league wide basis also.
Leading up to that, let’s all come up with our wish list/predictions for next Saturday, and post them prior to that. After it’s all said and done, we can discuss who was right, who was way off, who SHOULD have been right, and what not, over pink lemonade.
Myself, I’ll be posting my ideas once I have a chance to look at central scouting and some other sites–so likely by the end of the weekend.
Let the bear-baiting begin!
June 15, 2007 at 12:19 pm
http://www.nhl.com/trophies/clancy.html
This is for those of you that do not believe Saku does not have the make-up of a captain. As voted by the players I believe…cough cough (Joshtm) Old Mister hook himself…LOL
June 15, 2007 at 1:09 pm
Wow, I guess above double negative first sentence is saying the opposite of my intent:
should read;
“This is for those of you that believe Saku does not have the make-up of a captain.”
June 15, 2007 at 4:22 pm
higgy and komi re-signed for 2 more years each.
June 15, 2007 at 6:30 pm
Both signed for 1.5 mil.this season and 1.9 mil. for the following season….with Valentenko signed and Emelin almost signed its good too see the Habs continue to build within.
June 15, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Hey Joshtm;
Both Komi and Higgy for two years signed. Both bargain prices. Lets hear it for Gainey. ALso he got it done fast which means come free agency we know were we sit. Excellent job Gainey. Just Plekanec and Ferland are RFA’s left. Plek at 1.2 and Ferland well league minimum if he wants to stay.
June 15, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Dont be silly it cant be that Crazy Bob is doing something right , he wants this team to lose , he is crazy !!!! How the hell can they give an award to capt’in Hook ??? WTF is going in here? We need Josh’s mom’s pink juice in here quick!!!
LMAO …………….
Good to see Hig and Kom back for 2 more years with Carbonic ready to abuse them :0)
June 15, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Way to go Pepto, you make some great points!!!!
June 15, 2007 at 8:03 pm
Welcome to the Habs and the Mini-Habs. Crazy Bob’s Center For Broken Down Hockey Players Who Can’t Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too Center….yes you too can be paid millions of dollars, as long as you are not over six feet tall and must weigh less than 220 pounds, and be able to skate fast and fall down good…..team players not wanted, we want those Russian, American players, Swiss and French players who don’t know how to pass, or set up plays and who would rather get sissy penalties, fighters not welcome, do you meet these criteria? Proof of near life threatening injury, or proof of concussion, proof of lower body injury sustained during hockey season as eligible criteria, only those players who qualify for pain killer prescriptions Need Apply: HEALTHY CANADIAN BORN HOCKEY PLAYERS WHO ARE OVER SIX FEET TALL AND WEIGH MORE THAN 240 POUNDS NEED NOT APPLY!
Yes, if you are an alkie, a pill popping junkie, a wife beater, a paranoid schizoid….Then CRAZY BOB and One ARM-BANDIT GUY have a spot for you at the Habs Crazy Bob’s Center For Broken Down Hockey Players Who Can’t Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too Center….call 1-800-MASH 4007
June 15, 2007 at 8:29 pm
Doesn’t little Sakku remind you of Zoolander? That would make Gainey that short fat bald Mortie or whatever his name is, and Dandy and Bouilly, Sammy and Kovalev the rest of the airheads…hahahaha!!!!!!
June 16, 2007 at 7:25 am
Poor Josh he cant handle it , he has lost it !!
June 16, 2007 at 11:31 am
I was fortunate enough to be present when Higgs and Komi signed their contract. They did it immediately after a hard work-out, both sweating and totally committed. Look for them to not only live up to their contract, but exceed it..No BSing around for those boys..
GP
June 16, 2007 at 1:05 pm
breaking news sergei samsonov traded to blackhawks for jason collimore and tony salmelainen. it also says that the habs will probably buy out jason collimore’s contract which i’m sure is cheaper than samsonov. this is great news for habs fans now we have more money to pick up key free agents we need
June 16, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Gainey is god
June 16, 2007 at 1:16 pm
http://tsn.ca/
June 16, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Where did you read that?
June 16, 2007 at 1:19 pm
Samsonov gone. May we never mention his name again. HE is old news. Lets all move on.
240lbs? Nobody wighs that much! WE dont need fat slobs. Dennis Vial has retired.
June 16, 2007 at 1:19 pm
Great going Bob !! Now where is Josh with more how Crazy Bob is and all that ****?
June 17, 2007 at 9:56 pm
Bye Bye Sergi…and headlines for first week of July “Bye Bye Sheldon”. It’s pretty obvious Shelly’s thinking “show me the money Mr. McGuire!” However much the habs offered him, it’s about 1 mil/yr less than L.A./Anaheim/San Jose will offer, and he’ll take the California sunshining offer and smile. I think being in those commercials on TV during the hoopla of the All Star game put a little Hollywood in his head.
On a better note…just how good is Price gonna be? How about this for open comment…headlines about 20+ years from now…”Habs retire netminder Price’s number and are known for having undoubtedly the 2 best goalies in hockey history.” Could he be that good? Remember when Patrick was in his rookie year? What did he do but single handedly win us the cup!!! And who did he have around him…some solid defence and a handful of 25+ scorers and 70+ pointers. No Crosbys/Prongers/LeCavaliers…it’s a team effort and if Sheldon wants out for more money, just replace him with someone proven. If you’re looking for a Lidstrom, ya ain’t gonna find it. Besides..let these tallented young guys show what they can do. The habs have enough question marks as far as young players…they can play but will they show-the-hell-up? Give em a true shot this year and let the cream rise to the top.
June 18, 2007 at 2:56 pm
With the buyout of Cullimore’s contract, this will free up dollars for Souray!
July 3, 2007 at 6:17 pm
i would rather have souray over markov anyday…..markov is more of a defensive defencemen but souray shot is to important on the powerplay….even the goals scored on the powerplay that souray didnt get mostly only happened because the other team focuses on souray….
5.5 mil? no doubt….id give him 12mill over two yrs.
July 14, 2007 at 10:51 pm
Just what we need …a Radik Bonk on defense…aka Roman Hamrlik..or whatever