Sheldon Souray: The Last Stand
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Recent buzz indicates Bob Gainey is making one last final push to re-sign Sheldon Souray.

Wishful thinking?
Souray has long been considered by the media and fans to be fleeing Montreal.
This late in the game is there any chance Sheldon Souray will stay? Or is this just last minute pandering for the media and fans?
Time for speculation is over, as there is less than one week before Sheldon Souray potentially hits the free agent market and signs elsewhere — with nothing in return.
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- Senet1 : While I agree we have quite a few players that could be made available, I do not see a need to make wholesale changes only the necessary one. obviously Gomez, Gionta, AK46(if he will not sign) I keep our top line of Cole, Pacman and David. I keep Eller and Leblanc, Blunden, Bourque, probably Plecanec unless we can really improve on his positin. I keep PK, Emelin, Gorges, Diaz and Naturally Price. Probably Budaj. That basically gives us two functional line and two sets of defence, not counting
- goalie : Great to see Pacs gets su=ome success after the devestating dirty check last season that could have paralyzed him for life.
- goalie : Given ho the team has played this season one thing in our favor is that we pretty much need to clean house. Other than about 6-7 guys everyone else would be available in my mind.
- goalie : After how the tes]am has
- Avatar37 : Apparently only one offer for Carter on the low side so far, I think Montreal would be foolish not to investigate the possibility of a trade for him, and if there is low interest, the deal might be able to include moving Gomez. Gomez/Darche/Cam poli and a third round pick? Maybe not, but I'd be in serious talks with Columbus right about now.
- Avatar37 : «link»
- Avatar37 : for him had we held on to him until now and created a bidding war. There are more buyers than sellers currently on the market and it would have been the perfect time to have traded him.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - I'm not sure how we could have obtained more for Halak. We showcased him, everyone knew he was available for trade, and in the end, we took the best offer. Any asset is only worth what a purchaser will pay for it. The Halak trade wasn't like the Cammalleri trade where you had GMs afterwards saying they didn't even know he was on the market. The Halak trade was done properly, the Cammelleri trade was a knee-jerk panic move, and while my opinion is that we could have received more
- Avatar37 : I saw the game, the Islanders first goal came from a shot that was clearly above the height of the crossbar. How is it possible for a play to go to review where they have the advantage of mulitple camera angles and the ability to pause and they STILL get the call wrong?
- goalie : I agree don't get dilusional over our three game winning streak. Changes MUST be made. I am however, glad to see the effort being put forth by the players.
- Mats Naslund : I just went to capgeek to see who the Avalanche might be dealing for a rental - and I see they have only 6 players signed for next season!!! There are a couple young D men on that squad who are RFAs who would do very nicely next season.
- Mats Naslund : One thing I know - the 3 game winning streak had better not get PG thinking about holding onto guys for a PO run. Trade them, build the value and move on to next year.
- Mats Naslund : How about Max Pac though.. 21 goals and on pace for 65 points this year. That is absolutely monster for a guy at his age/experience and especially coming after a horrific injury. Huge cornerstone moving forward. On pace for 33 goals.. could he get 35?
- Mats Naslund : Didn't get to see it either - and while I don't really care about the win, I am very glad that Gomez scored so we don't have to endure all of the negativity in the media about him for the rest of the year. He still su@ks, but at least it won't be a topic every shift he takes.
- goalie : Didn't get to see the game at all but it's great to see Pacs get a hat trick and fpor Cole to be + 3. When was the last time this team won three games in a row? Great victory -looks like they're giving 100% effort!
- Senet1 : 4-2 win habs
- Senet1 : Gomez scores, Yea!!!
- goalie : As I said yesterday it will be interesting to see what our lame ass GM gets for players he ships out. Bourque is good and he'll help us but I still think we could have gotten more for him and for Halak when he was traded.
- Avatar37 : round those picks occur (probably 3rd).
- Avatar37 : An interesting article. If we slip to the 5th or 7th draft pick, a very interesting case could be made for drafting Galchenyuk. If we wind up with the second or third pick, I'm not sure who I'd draft, because clearly Yakupov is going to be drafted first overall. Our second round pick also becomes interesting, I know I'd take Vasilevski if he were still available. It will also be interesting to see if we can turn some of our veteran players (Moen, Gill, Campoli) into draft picks, and what
- Avatar37 : «link»
- Avatar37 : That is why PG should have waited on trading Cammalleri. Right now, there is a high demand for a top 6 forward, we could have gotten much more than Bourque in return. That isn't a knock against Bourque, but a knock against a knee-jerk reaction trade that didn't maximize our return on a top asset.
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- Avatar37 : chips fall where they may. After all, the only difference between finishing 17th and 29th is how good a pick you get in the draft.
- Avatar37 : We currently sit in 26th place in the league. We are 15 points ahead of Columbus, it's safe to bet at this point they will place last. We are, however, only 4 points ahead of Edmonton so it's still wide open as to who is going to finish second last. I still think that it's time to sit the veterans, play the youth, let them get experience, and regroup for next year. I'm not suggesting deliberately tanking like the Penguins, but give all our young players lots of playing time and let the c
- Avatar37 : goalie - If it were not for the play of Cammalleri, we would never have made it out of round 1. Cammalleri played as big a part, if not bigger, than Halak did. Sure, Halak played well, but remember the team collapsed in front of him, making his job much easier. We had lots of blocked shots and the ones that got through were typically from the outside.
- Senet1 : Goalie you are absolutely right, of course the one thing we had the two previous years that won the games that we are losing this year was our power play. If you look at say 10 games that we should have won had we had a similar power play, again we would not be having these conversations. When your PP goes from first to last in the league that is a lot of goals.How many games have we lost this year by one goal. Again poor management who did not prepare for Markov's possible absence.
- goalie : I'll put it another way.... we need more players who are willing to get their noses dirty.
- goalie : Two years ago when our goaltending stole series adn our players suddenly scored the coaches / GM believed that that was our true team . Well time has proven that was not. Though I was very glad to see the Habs knock off some very good teams we were very fortunate. And fortunate that spring was spelled HALAK!
- goalie : The wrst mistake management could possibly make I believe is to say, we played well some games and we believe the team can play to that level more often in the future. This team CANNOT adnb DOES NOT play to a high enough level. Please do not kid yourself mamngement. hat is partially why we're in the lace we are.
- goalie : Senet is correct when he says that if we had more games with a better efort this year we'd likely be in the playoffs. It has been very inconsistent effort but much more than that. We lack big, tough playing and finishing. Never mind fighting for a moment. We did not compete for the pucks nor along the boards nor in front of both nets enough this year. Thus we are in 29th. If the coaching staff doesn't see that then they shouldn't be there.
- Senet1 : Surely Molson is not going to keep him as the GM?
- Senet1 : when he knows he will be fired at the end of the season. Nothing really makes since in this whole process.
- Senet1 : I am not sue why PG has not been fired by now. They could be waiting for another GM to come available at season end, but why would you not set up a committee to manage the team in the short run until a new GM can be named. There is no since in chaning coaches because whoever the GM is he will want to name his own coach. Gainey and a committe of other executives can manage the team through to the trading deadline and onward. What motivation does PG have to making any worthwhile trades when he is
- Senet1 : I am too mch of a competitor to want my team to tank to. However, If these players played like they ae cabable of playing all year we would not be having this discussion right now, we woud be talking about the playoffs and who we would rather meet in the first round.
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June 30, 2007 at 8:37 am
habs4ever…..a little out of hand???? If I didn’t know better I would call you Sean Avery!! Come on….a little out of hand???
Oh, and by the way…..my wife says I’m complicated thank-you!!! LOL
Tommorrows the day folks!!! I’m sure we will all be at our keyboards ready to make our opinion known…….what a great country we live in!!!
GO BOB GO!!!
June 30, 2007 at 8:39 am
Xhabsfan…..yes, my Friday night was alright! I stayed sober!! LOL
June 30, 2007 at 11:13 am
Ah,it’s the retarded RACIST, habs”racist “4ever,WHO STATES “I’ll stick to my tough english canadians rather then you french visor wearing pansies” You are the worst form of racist idiot,one who is to fucked up to know he’s one.Your parents did a **** job boy bringing you up weardo and If I were you, brain freeze, I WOULD STAY IN FOR CANADA DAY ,YOU MIGHT NOT MAKE IT WITH YOUR FRONT TEETH IN A MULTICULTURAL CELABRATION,**********!!!!
June 30, 2007 at 3:23 pm
xhabsfan the internet warrior. Bravo my son. Internet tough guy’s gotta love them. Is Don Cherry a racist? Moron, your the one who thinks the habs need a French star. I think we’ll do just fine without one. hahaha. Go suck wood you loser and grab an English dictionary well your at it.
June 30, 2007 at 5:42 pm
Xhabsfan,habs4ever……are we the only ones left here???? Where did everyone else go?????
Oh and boys….stop the bickering would you please….I’m starting to feel a tad like a referee here!! We all get it…..Xhabsfan is a tough guy and habs4ever is a racist and I am a pacifist….but we’re all still huge HABS fans till the end!!!(which by the way, might be this year the ways things have went so far)…….LOL!!!
Here is my prediction men……..Briere up-front and Hannan in the back-end. Those are the 2 that BOB signs. Say Adios to Souray and his league worst plus/minus!!!
And a footnote signing may be Ouelette from Pittsburgh!!
Talk to ya boys tomato!!!
June 30, 2007 at 6:14 pm
I’m gone for 2 weeks for back surgery and I see … nothing changes. I keep praying the Habs won’t sign Briere but it looks fairly certain that they will. He’ll get nearly double the money Samsonov did and won’t put up double the points. I wonder if fans we’ll get on his case as much as they did Samsonov. Personally, I wish they were alot more interested in Smyth. There’s a reason he’s got 10 teams wanting to sign him. He might actually be worth the $6 or $7 million a year he’ll wind up getting paid. Personally, I’d love to see them sign Smyth even if it means Kovalev gets traded to make the room. We all knew Souray wasn’t coming back so it’s going to be no great surprise when he goes out west. This team needs more toughness, the Senator’s figured that out, Anaheim figured that out, my only complaint about Gainey is that he seems to be a pacifist and *hasn’t* figured that out. Otherwise, he’s a brilliant GM. Glad they drafted that defenseman first, we’ll see if he turns out to be as good as Hainsey or Komisarek. Go Habs!
June 30, 2007 at 7:48 pm
Avatar37,good luck with your surgery and don’t worry about it man,things have gotten real good in the surgery dept,you’ll be good a s new.Happy Canada day to you all.We live in the greatest country in the world,don’t believe me,watch the news tonight!!!
June 30, 2007 at 8:49 pm
I can’t see paying Souray 5.5 mil a year – let’s face it, he put up the numbers in the last year of his contract and has had a long history of injuries. He’s going to get good money after one great season, good for him. We should’ve traded him at the deadline.
I like the guy and love the toughness he brings, but remember we’ve got a gamer in Komisarek who needs to up his minutes too. The Habs can make the playoffs without Souray if they add a good center tomorrow. We are okay on D right now, what we need is offence.
Although it was a HUGE mistake not dealing his *** at the deadline.
Anybody hear rumours of Michael Nylander (NYR) as a UFA possibility? I read this on the Gazette site as a good fit for Montreal. If the idea is also to get Kovalev going to up his trade value, this might be a good move – as long as we don’t overspend for a 34 yr old center. He had 83 points last year, which is pretty good. Don’t know a lot about him though, he’s not flashy but a good passer according to stuff I’ve read.
I want to see Kovalev gone, but the only way we can get rid of him is to get some value back. We can’t just buy guys out like the Islanders do, that is insanity. Thought this would be impossible until Chicago lost their minds and thought they could be the team to get Samsonov going. Good luck with that.
Did anyone else forget the Blackhawks were still in the NHL, or was that just me?
Rotowire is saying the Rangers are going to make a press for Briere or Drury or Gomez, and if they can’t land any of those three, they’ll try to re-sign Nylander.
I don’t know about Nylander – but I do know that I’ll be shaking my head in disgust if Count Chokula (Yashin) is putting on a Habs jersey next week. Somebody please, please make that frightening image disappear from my head.
June 30, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Thank you, Xhabfan, although I had to come to the US to get the surgery done… our canadian health care system didn’t want to even send me for an MRI, I had to pay to have it done myself… turned out I had a herniated L4/L5 and a bulging L5/S1 … So I had the surgery done in Chicago and am expecting a $30k bill for it… Thank you Liberals for killing our healthcare system.
I also heard a rumour that Yashin was interested in playing in Montreal… that would be a disaster. Yashin and Kovalev on the same line… I have nightmares already. Smyth, Drury, Gomez would all be good targets for free agents, so why do I have a bad feeling we’ll wind up with Briere and Yashin… *sigh*
June 30, 2007 at 10:16 pm
You guys are forgetting about PK SUBBAN.
This guy wants to play here. He wants to crack thelineup. He stated it. He will be the next Habs’ captain.
I want this kid to join the organization next year. He will be extremely physical and born leader. He will bring passion for hockey in the locker room. Trust me. You guys should’ve seen him at the second day of the draft picks. He is seriously passioned by the Canadiens’ organization .
I want this kid in our lineup next year.
HAPPY CANADA DAY
July 1, 2007 at 2:01 am
If we get Briere”ANOTHER SMALL GUY “we are going to need some of these guys Bob. Zack Parise,James Wisniewski,Jim Vandermeer,josh Gratton,Brad WINCHESTER , Cris Simon AND OR gREG dE VRIES.
July 1, 2007 at 10:05 am
I’ve always liked Simon, personally, I was upset last year when Brashear offered to join the Habs for the price of a contract and was turned down by Gainey… While at least Lapierre and Latendresse and Begin are physical players, I always thought we needed an enforcer… We need someone to stick up for our “smaller, skilled” players…
July 1, 2007 at 10:41 am
Avatar37/Xhabsfan…….Brashear?…are you kidding me??? After what that guy did in the LNAH during the lockout?? Brashear is a f-u-c-k-i-n-g animal. He is not a hockey player. There is absolutely no room for that guy anywhere near the NHL!!
Boys…the days of the enforcer are done…PERIOD!!! It is all about skill now!
You can be big and tough but you had better damn well have some skill or you won’t make it in the NHL.
Chris Simon???? Is there anybody older that you could suggest??? Come on boys!!
Get real!!!
With guys like Garth Murray, Steve begin and Bouillon(he’s small but he’s tough!) Montreal is fine….lets worry about getting some goal scorers and a solid “D” man.
I read on all the sports sites that it is a foregone conclusion that Briere will be a HAB!! I like his skill but I too worry about his size. He is rather small but he did put up 95 pts. last year…that’s more that any HAB did!!
Let’s just hope that BOB and CARBO don’t try to turn him into a defensive specialist like every other “offensive-minded” player thay have brought in.
Again, I say Briere and Hannan are HABS by end of today and Souray will be feasting on DUCK!
July 1, 2007 at 10:56 am
Canada,140 years old today
Inventor of the greatest team sport ever ,”BROOM BALL!”LOL…….HOCKEY .And on this great day for Canadians lets hope its also a great day for Canadiens eh!Come out of your shell Bob Gainey and show us some of your magic some fans profese you have. GETHERDONE .
July 1, 2007 at 1:36 pm
Brashear is the top enforcer in the league, followed by Laraque. No, he’s not going to score 20 goals, but that’s not his job. His job is to make sure that people aren’t crosschecking and slashing and trying to fight Koivu or Ryder or Higgins or Kovalev or any of the other non-fighters on the team. The day of the fighter is done? Tell that to Neil or McGratton on the Senators. Seems to me that Anaheim had some tough characters on their team as well, including Pronger.
Don’t think the Habs need an enforcer? We haven’t had a bonafide enforcer since Ewen (my personal favourite) left. The Sens figured out that they weren’t going anywhere without one, let’s hope the Habs figure that out sooner than later.
July 3, 2007 at 1:49 pm
I thick the habs will be okay, but if I see them miss the playoffs again I will become a bum. lol
July 11, 2007 at 6:57 pm
the habs have to many freeloaders and are just looking for a paycheck.
they will be golfing early again next year