Sh*t Kicked Lightning in town
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If you got to see or hear another great quote from Tampa Coach John Torterella you’d know he’s not a happy man.
You’d also know he’s bringing Montreal native, NHL leading scorer Vincent Lecavalier and the rest of the Lightning to play the Habs tonight.
So how will the Lightning react? It has potential to be a blow out either way. Seeing as the Habs are coming off a sh*t kicking of their own.
Now the question is, who do you think is better at motivating his troops? Tortorella or Carbonneau?
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- Senet1 : He may just bring all three of the kids up.
- muller93 : MB is forced to go out and get a big D-man. Missing Emelin for almost half the season is the last thing we needed to hear. Now going out and getting a big D-man is a MUST!!!
- muller93 : Now for the Fu**en Bruins who have no business even being in the second round are going to get a nice rest. Yes the same goons who took out one of best D-man for 6 more months. There is NO Fu**en justice. Just venting--Ok i feel better now.
- muller93 : So pissed to see the Rangers lay down and play like total crap. How did the Rangers beat the Caps? This team is playing with no heart--a must win and can only muster 23 shots...PATHETIC !!!
- muller93 : Senet I did see Galchenyuks goal--Made a great move for the game winner. You can see the kid has so much confidence.
- goalie : If Rangers get swept I wonder if Tortorella will get his walking papers? Or Glen Sather? They have tons of 'talent' but zero wins in this series.
- goalie : It's really too bad we lost to the Sens as we would have played the Rangers and the way NYR are playing we would have beat them too. If only. If only!
- Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
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December 11, 2007 at 3:25 pm
Well, it ertainly is not Carbonneau, thats for sure.
The leafs spanked Tampa but I bet Montreal will struggle. Tampa will not get two spankings in a row.
I know that I bicth and I am negative all the time, but I just want a winning team DAMNIT…………
December 11, 2007 at 3:38 pm
I wonder who carbo will blame tonight?
December 11, 2007 at 4:37 pm
YUPEE I bet.
He will say that Yuppe is a distraction to the players……….
December 11, 2007 at 4:42 pm
all the fan’s at the game should chant we want Vinny!
December 11, 2007 at 4:45 pm
I can see that happening…which would be a really unusual thing to see.
December 11, 2007 at 4:57 pm
That would be great if the fans did that.Might send a message to management but then again maybe not
December 11, 2007 at 4:59 pm
Hopefully some fans that are going to the game read this and starts the chant lol
December 11, 2007 at 5:51 pm
Better still. If the habs are losing, chant “WE WANT OUR MONEY BACK”!
Gainey, improve this team or we’ll demonstrate at the Bell Centre, and it won’t be pretty. Anyone want to form a group to protest at the Bell?
December 11, 2007 at 7:56 pm
or you could cheer and support the team
December 11, 2007 at 9:59 pm
The Habs have got to be the only team that can’t finish. So many chances squandered…continue to make the other goalie look so good. Let’s go…get going…these are important games.
December 11, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Boy do I know this team or what.
I said that Tampa would not be spanked two games in a row.
I said that Montreal will struggle to get a point.
Every team that the Leafs beat with ease, Montreal struggles with and most time looses.
The Leafs are a better team than the Habs. The leafs have more heart.
This team is just shameful.
Both goals high over Price’s shoulder. The teams have Price figured out already. Shoot high…..
December 11, 2007 at 10:04 pm
Win one loose two. Win one loose two.
That is the trend for the Habs.
This is another sad season.
Why support this ****. We have down this **** for 15 years already.
Tough love boys tough love.
December 11, 2007 at 11:39 pm
Hey DTD, give the whole Price sucks thing a break! Those were not bad goals. And Price really is that strong down low that it’s only natural that players will opt for shooting high. Two goals against in regulation and you *****? This is his first year in the NHL and how old is he? A little early to be so down on the future of the franchise don’t you think?
December 11, 2007 at 11:52 pm
Open your Bloody eyes Man.
I did not say that Price sucks. I’m just pointing out what every other team sees. He has a weakness. And if he does not get this under control now he will be ruined.
December 12, 2007 at 12:00 am
Should i start getting excited when the habs make it to overtime??? What a joke!!! 1 point, 1 point, 1 point.
December 12, 2007 at 1:03 am
This fu@king sucks and we fans are as responsible as anyone for this farce of a hockey team by accepting its lack of everything!!!” THIS IS THE STORIED MONTREAL CANADIENS AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS CHAREST JEWELL IS AS UN ACCEPATBILE AS THE DIMMING LITE THAT SHINES ON IT!!!!” RICHARD CRIES TONITE AND THATS NOT RIGHT……SHAMEFULL….EMBARRISING…..DISCUSTING…..
December 12, 2007 at 1:04 am
It has been very depressing to watch this team lately. They just seemed so slow out there. I’m shocked when they actually can get the puck out of their own zone and complete two passes without the other team intercepting or deflecting the pass. Once again a strong start in the beginning of the season to get our hopes up but fall apart as usual later on. Not looking forward to the flyers and maple leafs game.
December 12, 2007 at 11:16 am
DTD, open your bloody eyes! Check the third thread of the Candy Canes post, then get back to me and tell me what you said.
December 12, 2007 at 11:18 am
Ok. Habs Fans lets have a monment of prayer…. Bow your heads…………
Lord our heavenly father please give us the strength to continue to be Habs Fans. Please dear Lord help this organization to make the right moves to bring us a winning team again. Please forgive Carbo Lord, for he knows not what he does. Please bless all of the Hab fans in here and everywhere even BarrieHabFan.
Amen.
December 12, 2007 at 11:21 am
Here is what I said:
Price is turning out to be a major disapointment.
Price being overated is an understatment.
I used to look forward to see Price in net. But now I shutter to see him play.
HE is a big boy but he is always on his knees. Every goal is over his shoulders.
Where did I say that he Sucked?
December 12, 2007 at 11:21 am
BarrieHabFan:
I CAN’T HEAR YOU…………….
December 12, 2007 at 11:35 am
Our team cannot keep up… It’s funny how you look at every other team in the NHL (with the exception of Nashville maybe) that you can easily pick out the best / franchise player. We have Kovalev… who loves to play the power play, but shuts it down for most of the game, until the next powerplay.
I was really upset about not being able to see the Habs in HD (Rogers sucks)… but watching this on TSNHD last night, almost made it look worse… I really have trouble seeing us make the playoffs with these players… RYDER HAS TO GO! SOONER THE BETTER!! (but who would take him???)
December 12, 2007 at 11:38 am
On the flip side… Plekanec gets better with every game, and I really like O’Byrne (horrible play on goal #2, but sh*t happens)
Throw us a bone here Gainey… at least let us know you trying to dream up a deal… Someone stop this 13 years of bleeding
December 12, 2007 at 12:44 pm
Price….overrated is an understatement…..major disapointment. I may be paraphrasing but suck is basically what you’re saying. What I’m saying is net is not where team troubles are. Many people thought Patrick Roy was weak in the five hole and some said up high. All goalies have an area where they are susceptible and this is a result of the playing style. Price is very strong down low and as a result shooters will go high. Most goals that go in high on him are good shots. I won’t debate that there are a few that other goalies would have stopped, but other saves that he makes look routine are actually quite difficult and would have been let in by other goalies. Now, I’m not saying Price is not open to constructive critisism. What I am saying is he should only be critisized when he has actually done something wrong and perhaps some allowance whould be given to him considering the circumstances (Huet injury, age, experience in NHL). Or we could do it your way and criticize him and point out all his weaknesses, tell him he’s been a major disappointment and is overrated and be surprised when a few years down the road he no longer wants to play in Montreal, goes to another city and wins a stanley cup.
I think I’d rather keep my critisism aimed at those who really deserve it right now.
December 12, 2007 at 1:02 pm
BarrieHabFan:
I love Price to death. I don’t mean to be so hard on him. I watched his play in Hamilton last year, I was there for all playoff games and he don’t deserve to be on this ****** team, he needs a team that can play in front of him to make him the star he can really be. This team does not have the talent to make Price a star.
If he stays here with the Habs he will be ruined………
December 12, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Bravo , but he will come back with more of the same and blame Price … say bye bye to #11 , I am pretty sure his time has come and gone here in Montreal , good luck Saku where ever you end up … and I mean that, He will be better off somewhere as a second line center … San Jose with Rivet maybe ? P.Marleau looks like a good deal right now…
December 12, 2007 at 1:20 pm
Bravo , but he will come back with more of the same and blame Price.
What do U mean by that.
December 12, 2007 at 1:52 pm
I’m with BarrieHabFan on this one. Letting in 2 goals in 60 minutes against a team with that caliber of shooters is nothing to criticize. Our lack of finishing plays IS something to criticize. Also, a coach that prefers to punish talented players who aren’t played well instead of encouraging them is another problem. Lastly, if Carbo left the lines alone for a game or two we might be able to find some chemistry apart from what we’re seeing on the 2nd line (which should be the 1st line, but that’s another argument). A trade at some point might help, but I think what we really need is a real coach with some experience… Carbo’s gotta go.
December 12, 2007 at 2:41 pm
“What do U mean by that.”
What’s the matter do you not understand proper english? You will be back with more of the same, its rather easy to see. A wise man once said when you have nothing nice to say , say nothing. You can however point the finger to where the real blame might be, a Captain that can’t play over 18 minutes a game, can’t score, and can’t seem to motivate his troops. I think it is time for him to move on.
December 12, 2007 at 3:54 pm
Hello to U too DON……………
December 12, 2007 at 3:55 pm
Don’t beat a dead horse DON.
December 12, 2007 at 4:16 pm
Okay, at the forefront of trade considerations has to be salary cap, if we’re to bring in a top tier forward we have to be prepared to move that same salary value. One suggestion I have not seen here is to trade one of our better defensemen, a position we actually have some depth in. I suggest trading Hamrilik (sp?), he along with a prospect/picks (or Ryder if anyone would take him) could clear the required space. Roman’s played well, and there’re many teams that would like to have him. Maybe Roman/Chipchura with picks for a decent centre (move Pleks to the wing) and a veteran defenseman. ANy thoughts here?
December 12, 2007 at 4:26 pm
Guys you have to admitt that the whole game Tampa was dodging penalties. Montreal should have gotten like 10 powerplays and montreal probably would have scored on like 7 of them so that would have made it 9-2 habs. Evertime montreal got the puck they were tripped,slashed,hooked,crosscheck(koivu) etc. But I know we didn’t show up until the last 3 minutes of the third.
December 12, 2007 at 7:23 pm
Well boyz they called up Sergei Kostitsyn this could be a good addition to the team,i watched him in the pre season and he has some good skills.He got the game winner in overtime it was nice,very nice.LOL
On the down side huet is due to comeback against the leafs and as much as i think he is a good goalie,he stinks against the maple lafs.
What do u guys think?
December 12, 2007 at 7:30 pm
Will people at the Bell Centre quit singing that incessant, obnoxious song they sing near the end of the game, the one that comes just before the other team scores to tie it up and then go on to win. This song makes my blood boil. It drips in smugness and overconfidence and it makes me wanna puke.
December 12, 2007 at 8:30 pm
I think the time has come for a major change. Gainy may have to be the first to go.There can be no exuses anymore. The playing field is now fair. Money is no longer an issue now that there is a salary cap. Now it comes down to who is the smartest general manager.Gainy i sugest you do something before your number is retired or it will be a disappointing night for you
December 12, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Word is that the Kostitsyn brothers will play on the third line with Dandenault.
They’re going to call it the
Dandy pair of Tits line
December 12, 2007 at 9:26 pm
The only reason Kostistyn is being called up, is because Gainey refuses to make a trade.He’d rather sit on his hands and sleep thru the year. Yeah pretty soon we’ll be calling the habs the Montreal bulldogs, because we have all their players,and we now look like an AHL team on the ice. Just change the CH to a bulldog!
December 13, 2007 at 11:49 am
Again,nobody wants our players in trade talks cause they are infected with looseritis and that will cause MAD FAN disease and french press rumorbug.
December 13, 2007 at 11:49 am
go habs go.habs all the way.all u guys r negative.
December 13, 2007 at 11:50 am
hey
December 13, 2007 at 1:10 pm
Congrats to PK Subban on making the Canadian World Juniors along with Paciorrety making the US squad. Too bad Ryan White got cut from the Canadian Squad but it was expected considering the depth the squad every year. Interesting cuts from the squad though like Keeton Elerby, Ty Wishart and Price’s backup last year Leeland Irving.
And who got cut for the third year in a row? Local boy Angelo Esposito get’s cut in favor of two guys who haven’t even been drafted yet in the forms of John Tavares and, the guy I want the Habs to tank it to get, Steve Stamkos. Can you say Espo lived off of Alexander Radulov?
December 13, 2007 at 1:14 pm
Can’t wait to watch Subban.
December 13, 2007 at 1:59 pm
S Kostitsyn top Line with Koivu and Higgins…. Pine_Ryder in the pressbox.