Six More Under Contract
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The Canadiens signed 6 more players to deals this week.
- Josh Gorges
- Jean-Philippe Coté
- Yann Danis
- Andrew Archer
- Duncan Milroy
- Corey Locke
Which, if any of these players have a realistic shot at ever getting a permanent roster spot on the big team?
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- Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
- stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
- goalie : Markov for Beauchemin - an injury prone d-man for an ;old timer'd-man. Beauchemin is NOT what the Habs need in my opinion. He is a HUGE defensive liability.
- goalie : Stuo 11 I'd make that trade with Oilers fast BUT I doubt the Oilers will make that. Two marginal d-men at the best for a switch of first round picks - not a chance .
- stuo11 : markov for beachemin?
- stuo11 : let moen go
- stuo11 : maybe try and get steve begin back
- stuo11 : we wouldve kicked out all other teams but pens, sens,
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July 18, 2007 at 3:34 pm
Gorgous Gorges maybe the only one to make the Big club since we’d have to waive him in order for him not to be on it. Would risk losing a young asset for nothing.
Milroy may find a spot on the 4th line or as a replacement for an injured player on the checking line. Possibly Locke for the same reasons as Milroy, but more for a replaement of a Pleks or Koivu injury to add a scoring touch, but has Graboski and the Kostitsyns to compete with for a spot. If Archer and Coté stay heathly the may have a 1st call-up for injury replacements on D. Or maybe if Dandy or Boullion get moved in some sort of offseason move, but they also have O’Byrne to compete with for that position.
July 18, 2007 at 3:49 pm
Aah,I have a feeling if they play good defensivly they will all make it on coach Carbo’s team and Kovalev will be the goal scorer for all the players lol. Your right Higgy 21,if I don’t spend any time next season “aprox 7-8 hr” a week watching this team in another total rebuilding mode, I could do something like restore a classic car or doing work for a needy charity and then in 5 years see whats up with the Habs,cause right now as it stands they are a F.W.O.T.!
July 19, 2007 at 10:56 am
ok, I don’t give a **** about those guys, I’m 99% sure Ryder will be on the team but to make me happy, sign him and get it over with Gainey!
July 19, 2007 at 1:08 pm
sign the petition.
selanne to the habs!
http://www.petitiononline.com/Selanne/petition.html
July 20, 2007 at 12:34 pm
This is my lineup for 2007-2008
Ryder – Koivu – Kovalev
Kostitsyn – Plekanec – Higgins
Latendresse – Smolinski – Lahti
Kostopoulos – Lapierre – ferland/locke
Begin
Markov – Komisarek
Hamrlik – O’Byrne
Streit – Bouillon
Dandenault
Huet
Halak
July 21, 2007 at 6:17 pm
So, what teams do you guys think are the best for next year?
I think the Rangers are gonna have a big season. They already looked like a team last year with Jagr and Shanahan, and now the additions of both Drury and Gomez will help them alot. Other than that maybe Pittsburg will do well.
In the west, I have a hunch that Calgary will do well. The ducks will remain competitive but losing Niedermayer and Selanne will slow them down. I always like Detroits chances too.
July 22, 2007 at 9:12 am
Yeah i think you are right YUP rangers are no doubt cup contenders now having said that,i think we all know what happened to the rangers the last time they tried to buy a cup.Most teams in the east have gotten stronger but some remain the same.I think the habs will start the season with this team we have right now.When you look at our roster there are not many spots available.I am not sure how the lines will be put together but here is an idea of players we have.Our first line=koivu,ryder,kovalev.Our second line=higgens,pleckanecs,kostitsyn.Our third line= smolinski,lattendress,lahti a rookie could fill this roll take your pick.Our fourth line= begin,kostopoulous,lapeirre.That leaves very little spots available.There are a few rookies imo in hamilton ready for the nhl but not enough spots avaiable.This is what bugs me about gainey not tradeing some of our depth guys away for some help now.Dont get me wrong,its never a bad thing to have alot of depth at the forward posistion but we have a **** load of prospects that will just sit in hamilton and never get a chance to make the big club.
July 22, 2007 at 9:18 am
Oh and on another note,for those of you who think lattendresse is to good for the third line keep dreaming. That is where he belongs for now.I have nothing against the kid but his skateing is a major issue.He could be the slowest and worst skater in the league.
July 22, 2007 at 1:30 pm
I see peoples line predictions. and I think Kostoboulos will get a chance on the 3rd line because they need a checking guy on the checking line.
July 22, 2007 at 8:03 pm
At least we all can breathe a collective sigh of relief now that Yashin has signed in Russia–YAY!
I’m not sold on the Rangers completely. You have a bunch of guys who will all want top line minutes, and there are only three top line spots. A lot will depend on the line combinations and ensuing chemistry. They didn’t do much to shore up their defence as well. Will they have a better season than the Habs? Most likely yes.
I saw many teams in the east make significant upgrades, while the Habs did little but attempt to replace what left. Barring superb goaltending on almost every night, we don’t look like a playoff team, even should some of our young guys enjoy breakout seasons. Knowing this, it’s hard to see why Gainey even tried to load up.
So, another season where we likely won’t make the playoffs, and yet come close. So our draft choices will again be midrounders–meaning that we won’t be drafting any superstars anytime soon. Considering Gainey signed just enough position players to ensure not too many new faces from Hamilton will join the team (barring injuries), we won’t even get to see whether this crop that won the AHL title are good enough just yet.
I’m not onboard with Gainey’s vision. How long before the shine rubs off? It did for me last season, when he did nothing during the slide in Jan-Feb, and didn’t sell off assets like Souray at the deadline when the price for players was as high as it has ever been. I can’t think of any other year where we could have gotten a 1st rounder for Rivet. Souray might’ve gotten us 2 1st rounders…
Do I think I could do a better job than Gainey, you ask? I couldn’t do any worse, from what I’ve seen so far.
July 22, 2007 at 11:17 pm
Well there is this to the new signings,if they falter in any way it won’t be so hard to send them down to the dogs and bring somebody up to the Habs,after all there’s only one prima donna left on the club”guess who?” And you can bet were gonna see alot of Bulldogs this upcoming season,aswell as unstopable line juggling involving both teams ,.and if that do not work all kinds of trading going on at the halfway point.I guess you could say this is Gainey rolling the bones!
July 23, 2007 at 2:07 pm
Re: Getting a first rounder for Rivet… Keep in mind, the Sharks knew that they were going to finish high and therefore their first rounder was going to be a low choice, and last year’s crop of players was projected to be the worst in years, so they gave up Gorges and what is considered to be a not very worthwhile first round pick for an experienced defenseman to bring a veteran presence on their blue line, which they were missing.
As for Gainey not trading Souray, there were 2 reasons: a) The habs were very much alive for that last playoff spot, if he had traded Souray (and we don’t know that he didn’t, maybe the offers were too low?) and we missed that last playoff spot, everyone would be complaining that if we’d only kept Souray we would have made it b) I’m sure Gainey thought that by keeping Souray he’d have a good chance at being able to resign him, and he did try to resign him, but Souray’s agent just thought he was worth more than he was.
July 23, 2007 at 4:44 pm
Trade Halak…. he is way over his head… put Denis as back up to begin season with Huet and see how Price progresses in Hamilton.
What can we get for Halak… not much, but maybe a first rounder in 08 with a trade to Washington.
Then try to get Allison.
July 23, 2007 at 5:43 pm
… No word on Ryder yet? Sign him and let’s get on with the show!!!!!!!!
July 24, 2007 at 6:08 am
So looks like I’ll be comin’ to MTL to see the Habs play the Sabres on Oct 20, I believe. A whole bunch of us from Habs I/O are comin’…Look for my soon to be fresh- from- the- seamstress -Nigelski -Habs -jersey on a street near you come Fall…
Also coming with my Fire Gainey t-shirt, which I’ll be getting made at a headshop this Friday, fresh and new for the occasion…
Anyone living in Mtl who knows the city and wants to hang with a TO habs fan for a part of a day, e-mail me @: death2udeath@yahoo.ca.
July 24, 2007 at 10:50 am
nigelski,now that’s a t-shirt,lol!If I may,sell me one,hell I’ll buy two.
And nothing about coach carbo?lol
July 24, 2007 at 2:49 pm
I want to see Grabovski crack the lineup… then possibly we could have a team that looks as follows: line 1… Kovalev, Koivu, Ryder
line 2… Higgins, Plekanec, Kostitsyn
line 3… Smolinski,Latendresse, Grabovski
line 4… Kostopolous, Begin, Lapierre
d1… Markov, Hamrlik
d2… Boullion, Komisarek
d3… Dandenault, Streit
g… Halak, Huet
I’m very open to suggestion what ya may think of this projected roster… keep in my mind however, I am not sold at all on Gorges, and throughout training camp and pre-season, if any rooks step up and earn a roster spot… so be it! Go Habs Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 25, 2007 at 9:59 am
Put Latendresse dont in the minors where he belongs.
July 25, 2007 at 9:59 am
Latendresse Down in the minors I meant.
July 25, 2007 at 4:28 pm
My only concern with Latendresse is that his skating ability is horendous! Could be one of the worst in the league. He does have a mean streak though, and is not afraid to go into the corners with the best of the grinders.
July 25, 2007 at 8:34 pm
Latendresse is the future captain of the Habs!The next three years are going to be tremendous for both he and the club; the big winner=the fans!If it was up to some on this site the HABS WOULD BE ALL LITTLE FIGURE SKATERS!Wake up and fill out your testosterone script before you think boys,this is the N.H.L. and not the pee-wee league,geeze!!!You should be questioning Kovalev or how the new guys are going to do?Try and learn from the play-offs,will you?
July 25, 2007 at 9:37 pm
yes master
July 26, 2007 at 1:31 am
Lats is the worst skater in the NHL!!!!!! TUrner Setenson could skate laps around him. HE is young and has the size. ALthough the 2nd half of the season He thought he was a sniper and stopped playing physical. THATS A MISTAKE. Without him playing his size he will be no use to the club this year. THey would be better off having Ferland in his place if thats the case. If he plays tough and does not let the french media get to his head he can be a good 3rd liner in this league in a few years.
July 26, 2007 at 5:12 pm
Agreed pepto.I still feel that it was andrei kostitsyns spot on the team but lats got it instead hmmmmmmmmmm i wonder why?.Kostitsyn should have started the season and not lattendresse.It will be funny to see kostitsyn double lattendresses points this year lol like he would have done with 82 games last year aswell
July 26, 2007 at 10:16 pm
Why are we waiting to put a bid in for Cammilleri? This is Kevin Lowe’s strategy. What’s it going to take to make a move? Still expecting something to happen.
July 27, 2007 at 11:39 pm
Hey Pactum;
ALthough I agree A Kost has a brighter future then Lats I disagree about Lats stealing his spot. Lats had a great training camp last year and deserved to make the team. ALthough I do think it was a bit of a mistake not to send him down to the A at midseason to wake him up.
July 28, 2007 at 1:50 pm
WARNING-WARNING
sorry guys I got found this
reports Montreal Canadiens GM Bob Gainey was recently spotted at a local restaurant with former Habs defenceman Patrice Brisebois, and it’s believed Gainey has offered Brisebois a one-year, $700K contract.
July 28, 2007 at 1:51 pm
hehe, Gainey just offered a contract to Brisbois, (runs to microwave to get popcorn, and gets into comfortable chair)
July 28, 2007 at 1:52 pm
damn min too late