Six More Under Contract
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The Canadiens signed 6 more players to deals this week.
- Josh Gorges
- Jean-Philippe Coté
- Yann Danis
- Andrew Archer
- Duncan Milroy
- Corey Locke
Which, if any of these players have a realistic shot at ever getting a permanent roster spot on the big team?
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- Avatar37 : Apparently only one offer for Carter on the low side so far, I think Montreal would be foolish not to investigate the possibility of a trade for him, and if there is low interest, the deal might be able to include moving Gomez. Gomez/Darche/Cam poli and a third round pick? Maybe not, but I'd be in serious talks with Columbus right about now.
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- Avatar37 : for him had we held on to him until now and created a bidding war. There are more buyers than sellers currently on the market and it would have been the perfect time to have traded him.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - I'm not sure how we could have obtained more for Halak. We showcased him, everyone knew he was available for trade, and in the end, we took the best offer. Any asset is only worth what a purchaser will pay for it. The Halak trade wasn't like the Cammalleri trade where you had GMs afterwards saying they didn't even know he was on the market. The Halak trade was done properly, the Cammelleri trade was a knee-jerk panic move, and while my opinion is that we could have received more
- Avatar37 : I saw the game, the Islanders first goal came from a shot that was clearly above the height of the crossbar. How is it possible for a play to go to review where they have the advantage of mulitple camera angles and the ability to pause and they STILL get the call wrong?
- goalie : I agree don't get dilusional over our three game winning streak. Changes MUST be made. I am however, glad to see the effort being put forth by the players.
- Mats Naslund : I just went to capgeek to see who the Avalanche might be dealing for a rental - and I see they have only 6 players signed for next season!!! There are a couple young D men on that squad who are RFAs who would do very nicely next season.
- Mats Naslund : One thing I know - the 3 game winning streak had better not get PG thinking about holding onto guys for a PO run. Trade them, build the value and move on to next year.
- Mats Naslund : How about Max Pac though.. 21 goals and on pace for 65 points this year. That is absolutely monster for a guy at his age/experience and especially coming after a horrific injury. Huge cornerstone moving forward. On pace for 33 goals.. could he get 35?
- Mats Naslund : Didn't get to see it either - and while I don't really care about the win, I am very glad that Gomez scored so we don't have to endure all of the negativity in the media about him for the rest of the year. He still su@ks, but at least it won't be a topic every shift he takes.
- goalie : Didn't get to see the game at all but it's great to see Pacs get a hat trick and fpor Cole to be + 3. When was the last time this team won three games in a row? Great victory -looks like they're giving 100% effort!
- Senet1 : 4-2 win habs
- Senet1 : Gomez scores, Yea!!!
- goalie : As I said yesterday it will be interesting to see what our lame ass GM gets for players he ships out. Bourque is good and he'll help us but I still think we could have gotten more for him and for Halak when he was traded.
- Avatar37 : round those picks occur (probably 3rd).
- Avatar37 : An interesting article. If we slip to the 5th or 7th draft pick, a very interesting case could be made for drafting Galchenyuk. If we wind up with the second or third pick, I'm not sure who I'd draft, because clearly Yakupov is going to be drafted first overall. Our second round pick also becomes interesting, I know I'd take Vasilevski if he were still available. It will also be interesting to see if we can turn some of our veteran players (Moen, Gill, Campoli) into draft picks, and what
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- Avatar37 : That is why PG should have waited on trading Cammalleri. Right now, there is a high demand for a top 6 forward, we could have gotten much more than Bourque in return. That isn't a knock against Bourque, but a knock against a knee-jerk reaction trade that didn't maximize our return on a top asset.
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- Avatar37 : chips fall where they may. After all, the only difference between finishing 17th and 29th is how good a pick you get in the draft.
- Avatar37 : We currently sit in 26th place in the league. We are 15 points ahead of Columbus, it's safe to bet at this point they will place last. We are, however, only 4 points ahead of Edmonton so it's still wide open as to who is going to finish second last. I still think that it's time to sit the veterans, play the youth, let them get experience, and regroup for next year. I'm not suggesting deliberately tanking like the Penguins, but give all our young players lots of playing time and let the c
- Avatar37 : goalie - If it were not for the play of Cammalleri, we would never have made it out of round 1. Cammalleri played as big a part, if not bigger, than Halak did. Sure, Halak played well, but remember the team collapsed in front of him, making his job much easier. We had lots of blocked shots and the ones that got through were typically from the outside.
- Senet1 : Goalie you are absolutely right, of course the one thing we had the two previous years that won the games that we are losing this year was our power play. If you look at say 10 games that we should have won had we had a similar power play, again we would not be having these conversations. When your PP goes from first to last in the league that is a lot of goals.How many games have we lost this year by one goal. Again poor management who did not prepare for Markov's possible absence.
- goalie : I'll put it another way.... we need more players who are willing to get their noses dirty.
- goalie : Two years ago when our goaltending stole series adn our players suddenly scored the coaches / GM believed that that was our true team . Well time has proven that was not. Though I was very glad to see the Habs knock off some very good teams we were very fortunate. And fortunate that spring was spelled HALAK!
- goalie : The wrst mistake management could possibly make I believe is to say, we played well some games and we believe the team can play to that level more often in the future. This team CANNOT adnb DOES NOT play to a high enough level. Please do not kid yourself mamngement. hat is partially why we're in the lace we are.
- goalie : Senet is correct when he says that if we had more games with a better efort this year we'd likely be in the playoffs. It has been very inconsistent effort but much more than that. We lack big, tough playing and finishing. Never mind fighting for a moment. We did not compete for the pucks nor along the boards nor in front of both nets enough this year. Thus we are in 29th. If the coaching staff doesn't see that then they shouldn't be there.
- Senet1 : Surely Molson is not going to keep him as the GM?
- Senet1 : when he knows he will be fired at the end of the season. Nothing really makes since in this whole process.
- Senet1 : I am not sue why PG has not been fired by now. They could be waiting for another GM to come available at season end, but why would you not set up a committee to manage the team in the short run until a new GM can be named. There is no since in chaning coaches because whoever the GM is he will want to name his own coach. Gainey and a committe of other executives can manage the team through to the trading deadline and onward. What motivation does PG have to making any worthwhile trades when he is
- Senet1 : I am too mch of a competitor to want my team to tank to. However, If these players played like they ae cabable of playing all year we would not be having this discussion right now, we woud be talking about the playoffs and who we would rather meet in the first round.
- rocky : Exactly, and Senet nails it when he says we have not had an elite top 5 in the nhl player since lafleur.
- goalie : I too want the Habs to get the best possible draft this June. We all need SOME hope!
- rocky : He is persona non grata in habville, and a ghost in every sense of the term.
- goalie : It remains a miracle how we have heard from our mighty GM twice since Christmas - the trades involving Spacek and Cammy and those comments were extremely brief. PG just does not cut it in my world. Part of a GMs job is to go public from time to time. PG never does that in fact he's a ghost GM!
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July 18, 2007 at 3:34 pm
Gorgous Gorges maybe the only one to make the Big club since we’d have to waive him in order for him not to be on it. Would risk losing a young asset for nothing.
Milroy may find a spot on the 4th line or as a replacement for an injured player on the checking line. Possibly Locke for the same reasons as Milroy, but more for a replaement of a Pleks or Koivu injury to add a scoring touch, but has Graboski and the Kostitsyns to compete with for a spot. If Archer and Coté stay heathly the may have a 1st call-up for injury replacements on D. Or maybe if Dandy or Boullion get moved in some sort of offseason move, but they also have O’Byrne to compete with for that position.
July 18, 2007 at 3:49 pm
Aah,I have a feeling if they play good defensivly they will all make it on coach Carbo’s team and Kovalev will be the goal scorer for all the players lol. Your right Higgy 21,if I don’t spend any time next season “aprox 7-8 hr” a week watching this team in another total rebuilding mode, I could do something like restore a classic car or doing work for a needy charity and then in 5 years see whats up with the Habs,cause right now as it stands they are a F.W.O.T.!
July 19, 2007 at 10:56 am
ok, I don’t give a **** about those guys, I’m 99% sure Ryder will be on the team but to make me happy, sign him and get it over with Gainey!
July 19, 2007 at 1:08 pm
sign the petition.
selanne to the habs!
http://www.petitiononline.com/Selanne/petition.html
July 20, 2007 at 12:34 pm
This is my lineup for 2007-2008
Ryder – Koivu – Kovalev
Kostitsyn – Plekanec – Higgins
Latendresse – Smolinski – Lahti
Kostopoulos – Lapierre – ferland/locke
Begin
Markov – Komisarek
Hamrlik – O’Byrne
Streit – Bouillon
Dandenault
Huet
Halak
July 21, 2007 at 6:17 pm
So, what teams do you guys think are the best for next year?
I think the Rangers are gonna have a big season. They already looked like a team last year with Jagr and Shanahan, and now the additions of both Drury and Gomez will help them alot. Other than that maybe Pittsburg will do well.
In the west, I have a hunch that Calgary will do well. The ducks will remain competitive but losing Niedermayer and Selanne will slow them down. I always like Detroits chances too.
July 22, 2007 at 9:12 am
Yeah i think you are right YUP rangers are no doubt cup contenders now having said that,i think we all know what happened to the rangers the last time they tried to buy a cup.Most teams in the east have gotten stronger but some remain the same.I think the habs will start the season with this team we have right now.When you look at our roster there are not many spots available.I am not sure how the lines will be put together but here is an idea of players we have.Our first line=koivu,ryder,kovalev.Our second line=higgens,pleckanecs,kostitsyn.Our third line= smolinski,lattendress,lahti a rookie could fill this roll take your pick.Our fourth line= begin,kostopoulous,lapeirre.That leaves very little spots available.There are a few rookies imo in hamilton ready for the nhl but not enough spots avaiable.This is what bugs me about gainey not tradeing some of our depth guys away for some help now.Dont get me wrong,its never a bad thing to have alot of depth at the forward posistion but we have a **** load of prospects that will just sit in hamilton and never get a chance to make the big club.
July 22, 2007 at 9:18 am
Oh and on another note,for those of you who think lattendresse is to good for the third line keep dreaming. That is where he belongs for now.I have nothing against the kid but his skateing is a major issue.He could be the slowest and worst skater in the league.
July 22, 2007 at 1:30 pm
I see peoples line predictions. and I think Kostoboulos will get a chance on the 3rd line because they need a checking guy on the checking line.
July 22, 2007 at 8:03 pm
At least we all can breathe a collective sigh of relief now that Yashin has signed in Russia–YAY!
I’m not sold on the Rangers completely. You have a bunch of guys who will all want top line minutes, and there are only three top line spots. A lot will depend on the line combinations and ensuing chemistry. They didn’t do much to shore up their defence as well. Will they have a better season than the Habs? Most likely yes.
I saw many teams in the east make significant upgrades, while the Habs did little but attempt to replace what left. Barring superb goaltending on almost every night, we don’t look like a playoff team, even should some of our young guys enjoy breakout seasons. Knowing this, it’s hard to see why Gainey even tried to load up.
So, another season where we likely won’t make the playoffs, and yet come close. So our draft choices will again be midrounders–meaning that we won’t be drafting any superstars anytime soon. Considering Gainey signed just enough position players to ensure not too many new faces from Hamilton will join the team (barring injuries), we won’t even get to see whether this crop that won the AHL title are good enough just yet.
I’m not onboard with Gainey’s vision. How long before the shine rubs off? It did for me last season, when he did nothing during the slide in Jan-Feb, and didn’t sell off assets like Souray at the deadline when the price for players was as high as it has ever been. I can’t think of any other year where we could have gotten a 1st rounder for Rivet. Souray might’ve gotten us 2 1st rounders…
Do I think I could do a better job than Gainey, you ask? I couldn’t do any worse, from what I’ve seen so far.
July 22, 2007 at 11:17 pm
Well there is this to the new signings,if they falter in any way it won’t be so hard to send them down to the dogs and bring somebody up to the Habs,after all there’s only one prima donna left on the club”guess who?” And you can bet were gonna see alot of Bulldogs this upcoming season,aswell as unstopable line juggling involving both teams ,.and if that do not work all kinds of trading going on at the halfway point.I guess you could say this is Gainey rolling the bones!
July 23, 2007 at 2:07 pm
Re: Getting a first rounder for Rivet… Keep in mind, the Sharks knew that they were going to finish high and therefore their first rounder was going to be a low choice, and last year’s crop of players was projected to be the worst in years, so they gave up Gorges and what is considered to be a not very worthwhile first round pick for an experienced defenseman to bring a veteran presence on their blue line, which they were missing.
As for Gainey not trading Souray, there were 2 reasons: a) The habs were very much alive for that last playoff spot, if he had traded Souray (and we don’t know that he didn’t, maybe the offers were too low?) and we missed that last playoff spot, everyone would be complaining that if we’d only kept Souray we would have made it b) I’m sure Gainey thought that by keeping Souray he’d have a good chance at being able to resign him, and he did try to resign him, but Souray’s agent just thought he was worth more than he was.
July 23, 2007 at 4:44 pm
Trade Halak…. he is way over his head… put Denis as back up to begin season with Huet and see how Price progresses in Hamilton.
What can we get for Halak… not much, but maybe a first rounder in 08 with a trade to Washington.
Then try to get Allison.
July 23, 2007 at 5:43 pm
… No word on Ryder yet? Sign him and let’s get on with the show!!!!!!!!
July 24, 2007 at 6:08 am
So looks like I’ll be comin’ to MTL to see the Habs play the Sabres on Oct 20, I believe. A whole bunch of us from Habs I/O are comin’…Look for my soon to be fresh- from- the- seamstress -Nigelski -Habs -jersey on a street near you come Fall…
Also coming with my Fire Gainey t-shirt, which I’ll be getting made at a headshop this Friday, fresh and new for the occasion…
Anyone living in Mtl who knows the city and wants to hang with a TO habs fan for a part of a day, e-mail me @: death2udeath@yahoo.ca.
July 24, 2007 at 10:50 am
nigelski,now that’s a t-shirt,lol!If I may,sell me one,hell I’ll buy two.
And nothing about coach carbo?lol
July 24, 2007 at 2:49 pm
I want to see Grabovski crack the lineup… then possibly we could have a team that looks as follows: line 1… Kovalev, Koivu, Ryder
line 2… Higgins, Plekanec, Kostitsyn
line 3… Smolinski,Latendresse, Grabovski
line 4… Kostopolous, Begin, Lapierre
d1… Markov, Hamrlik
d2… Boullion, Komisarek
d3… Dandenault, Streit
g… Halak, Huet
I’m very open to suggestion what ya may think of this projected roster… keep in my mind however, I am not sold at all on Gorges, and throughout training camp and pre-season, if any rooks step up and earn a roster spot… so be it! Go Habs Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 25, 2007 at 9:59 am
Put Latendresse dont in the minors where he belongs.
July 25, 2007 at 9:59 am
Latendresse Down in the minors I meant.
July 25, 2007 at 4:28 pm
My only concern with Latendresse is that his skating ability is horendous! Could be one of the worst in the league. He does have a mean streak though, and is not afraid to go into the corners with the best of the grinders.
July 25, 2007 at 8:34 pm
Latendresse is the future captain of the Habs!The next three years are going to be tremendous for both he and the club; the big winner=the fans!If it was up to some on this site the HABS WOULD BE ALL LITTLE FIGURE SKATERS!Wake up and fill out your testosterone script before you think boys,this is the N.H.L. and not the pee-wee league,geeze!!!You should be questioning Kovalev or how the new guys are going to do?Try and learn from the play-offs,will you?
July 25, 2007 at 9:37 pm
yes master
July 26, 2007 at 1:31 am
Lats is the worst skater in the NHL!!!!!! TUrner Setenson could skate laps around him. HE is young and has the size. ALthough the 2nd half of the season He thought he was a sniper and stopped playing physical. THATS A MISTAKE. Without him playing his size he will be no use to the club this year. THey would be better off having Ferland in his place if thats the case. If he plays tough and does not let the french media get to his head he can be a good 3rd liner in this league in a few years.
July 26, 2007 at 5:12 pm
Agreed pepto.I still feel that it was andrei kostitsyns spot on the team but lats got it instead hmmmmmmmmmm i wonder why?.Kostitsyn should have started the season and not lattendresse.It will be funny to see kostitsyn double lattendresses points this year lol like he would have done with 82 games last year aswell
July 26, 2007 at 10:16 pm
Why are we waiting to put a bid in for Cammilleri? This is Kevin Lowe’s strategy. What’s it going to take to make a move? Still expecting something to happen.
July 27, 2007 at 11:39 pm
Hey Pactum;
ALthough I agree A Kost has a brighter future then Lats I disagree about Lats stealing his spot. Lats had a great training camp last year and deserved to make the team. ALthough I do think it was a bit of a mistake not to send him down to the A at midseason to wake him up.
July 28, 2007 at 1:50 pm
WARNING-WARNING
sorry guys I got found this
reports Montreal Canadiens GM Bob Gainey was recently spotted at a local restaurant with former Habs defenceman Patrice Brisebois, and it’s believed Gainey has offered Brisebois a one-year, $700K contract.
July 28, 2007 at 1:51 pm
hehe, Gainey just offered a contract to Brisbois, (runs to microwave to get popcorn, and gets into comfortable chair)
July 28, 2007 at 1:52 pm
damn min too late