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Six More Under Contract

  • The Canadiens signed 6 more players to deals this week.

    • Josh Gorges
    • Jean-Philippe Coté
    • Yann Danis
    • Andrew Archer
    • Duncan Milroy
    • Corey Locke

    Which, if any of these players have a realistic shot at ever getting a permanent roster spot on the big team?

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  1. #1 coutNY says:
    July 18, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    Gorgous Gorges maybe the only one to make the Big club since we’d have to waive him in order for him not to be on it. Would risk losing a young asset for nothing.

    Milroy may find a spot on the 4th line or as a replacement for an injured player on the checking line. Possibly Locke for the same reasons as Milroy, but more for a replaement of a Pleks or Koivu injury to add a scoring touch, but has Graboski and the Kostitsyns to compete with for a spot. If Archer and Coté stay heathly the may have a 1st call-up for injury replacements on D. Or maybe if Dandy or Boullion get moved in some sort of offseason move, but they also have O’Byrne to compete with for that position.

  2. #2 Xtrahabsfan says:
    July 18, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    Aah,I have a feeling if they play good defensivly they will all make it on coach Carbo’s team and Kovalev will be the goal scorer for all the players lol. Your right Higgy 21,if I don’t spend any time next season “aprox 7-8 hr” a week watching this team in another total rebuilding mode, I could do something like restore a classic car or doing work for a needy charity and then in 5 years see whats up with the Habs,cause right now as it stands they are a F.W.O.T.!

  3. #3 Stuart-SB77 says:
    July 19, 2007 at 10:56 am

    ok, I don’t give a **** about those guys, I’m 99% sure Ryder will be on the team but to make me happy, sign him and get it over with Gainey!

  4. #4 skat says:
    July 19, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    sign the petition.

    selanne to the habs!

    http://www.petitiononline.com/Selanne/petition.html

  5. #5 habsfan_for_life1212 says:
    July 20, 2007 at 12:34 pm

    This is my lineup for 2007-2008
    Ryder – Koivu – Kovalev
    Kostitsyn – Plekanec – Higgins
    Latendresse – Smolinski – Lahti
    Kostopoulos – Lapierre – ferland/locke
    Begin

    Markov – Komisarek
    Hamrlik – O’Byrne
    Streit – Bouillon
    Dandenault

    Huet
    Halak

  6. #6 Yup says:
    July 21, 2007 at 6:17 pm

    So, what teams do you guys think are the best for next year?

    I think the Rangers are gonna have a big season. They already looked like a team last year with Jagr and Shanahan, and now the additions of both Drury and Gomez will help them alot. Other than that maybe Pittsburg will do well.

    In the west, I have a hunch that Calgary will do well. The ducks will remain competitive but losing Niedermayer and Selanne will slow them down. I always like Detroits chances too.

  7. #7 PACTUM SERVA says:
    July 22, 2007 at 9:12 am

    Yeah i think you are right YUP rangers are no doubt cup contenders now having said that,i think we all know what happened to the rangers the last time they tried to buy a cup.Most teams in the east have gotten stronger but some remain the same.I think the habs will start the season with this team we have right now.When you look at our roster there are not many spots available.I am not sure how the lines will be put together but here is an idea of players we have.Our first line=koivu,ryder,kovalev.Our second line=higgens,pleckanecs,kostitsyn.Our third line= smolinski,lattendress,lahti a rookie could fill this roll take your pick.Our fourth line= begin,kostopoulous,lapeirre.That leaves very little spots available.There are a few rookies imo in hamilton ready for the nhl but not enough spots avaiable.This is what bugs me about gainey not tradeing some of our depth guys away for some help now.Dont get me wrong,its never a bad thing to have alot of depth at the forward posistion but we have a **** load of prospects that will just sit in hamilton and never get a chance to make the big club.

  8. #8 PACTUM SERVA says:
    July 22, 2007 at 9:18 am

    Oh and on another note,for those of you who think lattendresse is to good for the third line keep dreaming. That is where he belongs for now.I have nothing against the kid but his skateing is a major issue.He could be the slowest and worst skater in the league.

  9. #9 Stuart-SB77 says:
    July 22, 2007 at 1:30 pm

    I see peoples line predictions. and I think Kostoboulos will get a chance on the 3rd line because they need a checking guy on the checking line.

  10. #10 nigelski says:
    July 22, 2007 at 8:03 pm

    At least we all can breathe a collective sigh of relief now that Yashin has signed in Russia–YAY!
    I’m not sold on the Rangers completely. You have a bunch of guys who will all want top line minutes, and there are only three top line spots. A lot will depend on the line combinations and ensuing chemistry. They didn’t do much to shore up their defence as well. Will they have a better season than the Habs? Most likely yes.

    I saw many teams in the east make significant upgrades, while the Habs did little but attempt to replace what left. Barring superb goaltending on almost every night, we don’t look like a playoff team, even should some of our young guys enjoy breakout seasons. Knowing this, it’s hard to see why Gainey even tried to load up.

    So, another season where we likely won’t make the playoffs, and yet come close. So our draft choices will again be midrounders–meaning that we won’t be drafting any superstars anytime soon. Considering Gainey signed just enough position players to ensure not too many new faces from Hamilton will join the team (barring injuries), we won’t even get to see whether this crop that won the AHL title are good enough just yet.

    I’m not onboard with Gainey’s vision. How long before the shine rubs off? It did for me last season, when he did nothing during the slide in Jan-Feb, and didn’t sell off assets like Souray at the deadline when the price for players was as high as it has ever been. I can’t think of any other year where we could have gotten a 1st rounder for Rivet. Souray might’ve gotten us 2 1st rounders…

    Do I think I could do a better job than Gainey, you ask? I couldn’t do any worse, from what I’ve seen so far.

  11. #11 Xtrahabsfan says:
    July 22, 2007 at 11:17 pm

    Well there is this to the new signings,if they falter in any way it won’t be so hard to send them down to the dogs and bring somebody up to the Habs,after all there’s only one prima donna left on the club”guess who?” And you can bet were gonna see alot of Bulldogs this upcoming season,aswell as unstopable line juggling involving both teams ,.and if that do not work all kinds of trading going on at the halfway point.I guess you could say this is Gainey rolling the bones!

  12. #12 Avatar37 says:
    July 23, 2007 at 2:07 pm

    Re: Getting a first rounder for Rivet… Keep in mind, the Sharks knew that they were going to finish high and therefore their first rounder was going to be a low choice, and last year’s crop of players was projected to be the worst in years, so they gave up Gorges and what is considered to be a not very worthwhile first round pick for an experienced defenseman to bring a veteran presence on their blue line, which they were missing.

    As for Gainey not trading Souray, there were 2 reasons: a) The habs were very much alive for that last playoff spot, if he had traded Souray (and we don’t know that he didn’t, maybe the offers were too low?) and we missed that last playoff spot, everyone would be complaining that if we’d only kept Souray we would have made it b) I’m sure Gainey thought that by keeping Souray he’d have a good chance at being able to resign him, and he did try to resign him, but Souray’s agent just thought he was worth more than he was.

  13. #13 habahabahaba says:
    July 23, 2007 at 4:44 pm

    Trade Halak…. he is way over his head… put Denis as back up to begin season with Huet and see how Price progresses in Hamilton.

    What can we get for Halak… not much, but maybe a first rounder in 08 with a trade to Washington.

    Then try to get Allison.

  14. #14 Fizz says:
    July 23, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    … No word on Ryder yet? Sign him and let’s get on with the show!!!!!!!!

  15. #15 nigelski says:
    July 24, 2007 at 6:08 am

    So looks like I’ll be comin’ to MTL to see the Habs play the Sabres on Oct 20, I believe. A whole bunch of us from Habs I/O are comin’…Look for my soon to be fresh- from- the- seamstress -Nigelski -Habs -jersey on a street near you come Fall…

    Also coming with my Fire Gainey t-shirt, which I’ll be getting made at a headshop this Friday, fresh and new for the occasion…

    Anyone living in Mtl who knows the city and wants to hang with a TO habs fan for a part of a day, e-mail me @: death2udeath@yahoo.ca.

  16. #16 Xtrahabsfan says:
    July 24, 2007 at 10:50 am

    nigelski,now that’s a t-shirt,lol!If I may,sell me one,hell I’ll buy two.
    And nothing about coach carbo?lol

  17. #17 Fizz says:
    July 24, 2007 at 2:49 pm

    I want to see Grabovski crack the lineup… then possibly we could have a team that looks as follows: line 1… Kovalev, Koivu, Ryder
    line 2… Higgins, Plekanec, Kostitsyn
    line 3… Smolinski,Latendresse, Grabovski
    line 4… Kostopolous, Begin, Lapierre
    d1… Markov, Hamrlik
    d2… Boullion, Komisarek
    d3… Dandenault, Streit
    g… Halak, Huet

    I’m very open to suggestion what ya may think of this projected roster… keep in my mind however, I am not sold at all on Gorges, and throughout training camp and pre-season, if any rooks step up and earn a roster spot… so be it! Go Habs Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. #18 Yaeh says:
    July 25, 2007 at 9:59 am

    Put Latendresse dont in the minors where he belongs.

  19. #19 Yaeh says:
    July 25, 2007 at 9:59 am

    Latendresse Down in the minors I meant.

  20. #20 Fizz says:
    July 25, 2007 at 4:28 pm

    My only concern with Latendresse is that his skating ability is horendous! Could be one of the worst in the league. He does have a mean streak though, and is not afraid to go into the corners with the best of the grinders.

  21. #21 Xtrahabsfan says:
    July 25, 2007 at 8:34 pm

    Latendresse is the future captain of the Habs!The next three years are going to be tremendous for both he and the club; the big winner=the fans!If it was up to some on this site the HABS WOULD BE ALL LITTLE FIGURE SKATERS!Wake up and fill out your testosterone script before you think boys,this is the N.H.L. and not the pee-wee league,geeze!!!You should be questioning Kovalev or how the new guys are going to do?Try and learn from the play-offs,will you?

  22. #22 PACTUM SERVA says:
    July 25, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    yes master

  23. #23 Pepto says:
    July 26, 2007 at 1:31 am

    Lats is the worst skater in the NHL!!!!!! TUrner Setenson could skate laps around him. HE is young and has the size. ALthough the 2nd half of the season He thought he was a sniper and stopped playing physical. THATS A MISTAKE. Without him playing his size he will be no use to the club this year. THey would be better off having Ferland in his place if thats the case. If he plays tough and does not let the french media get to his head he can be a good 3rd liner in this league in a few years.

  24. #24 PACTUM SERVA says:
    July 26, 2007 at 5:12 pm

    Agreed pepto.I still feel that it was andrei kostitsyns spot on the team but lats got it instead hmmmmmmmmmm i wonder why?.Kostitsyn should have started the season and not lattendresse.It will be funny to see kostitsyn double lattendresses points this year lol like he would have done with 82 games last year aswell

  25. #25 Sam says:
    July 26, 2007 at 10:16 pm

    Why are we waiting to put a bid in for Cammilleri? This is Kevin Lowe’s strategy. What’s it going to take to make a move? Still expecting something to happen.

  26. #26 Pepto says:
    July 27, 2007 at 11:39 pm

    Hey Pactum;

    ALthough I agree A Kost has a brighter future then Lats I disagree about Lats stealing his spot. Lats had a great training camp last year and deserved to make the team. ALthough I do think it was a bit of a mistake not to send him down to the A at midseason to wake him up.

  27. #27 Lucky says:
    July 28, 2007 at 1:50 pm

    WARNING-WARNING
    sorry guys I got found this

    reports Montreal Canadiens GM Bob Gainey was recently spotted at a local restaurant with former Habs defenceman Patrice Brisebois, and it’s believed Gainey has offered Brisebois a one-year, $700K contract.

  28. #28 LOL says:
    July 28, 2007 at 1:51 pm

    hehe, Gainey just offered a contract to Brisbois, (runs to microwave to get popcorn, and gets into comfortable chair)

  29. #29 LOL says:
    July 28, 2007 at 1:52 pm

    damn min too late

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  • Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
  • Avatar37 : Goalie - Sure, the only player I'd say who is untradeable (meaning I wouldn't trade no matter what) is Carey Price. You build a winning team from the net out, and I don't think there's a better goalie for his age in the NHL than Price, so I wouldn't trade him. Otherwise, every player would be open for offers, but for PK Subban, it would take (for me) an already established star, like Carter or Crosby or Ovechkin. As much as I like Ovechkin, I'm not sure he could handle all the media pre
  • goalie : I'm not suggesting at all that we judst dump or get rid of PK. I do however believe that he is a very valued commodity in the NHL adn that the Habs will receive offers for his services. If someone ffers us young, strong, puck handling forwards who can score, I think the Habs have to look at that possible trade.
  • Avatar37 : Agreed. It would be a big mistake to trade PK just to move up 2 spots in the draft. PK, Emelin, and Gorges are the bright future of our defense.
  • Senet1 : I am with you Avatar, Subban stays, it is not often that you get a stud defenceman who can play 25+ minutes. The mistakes he makes are for the most part not that serious and people forget he is only 23 and been in the league 2 years. He has come a long way in those two years. He has offense, defence and he hits. You cannot bet much better than that. Two more years experience and he has a shot at the Norris. If Markov does anything I hope he teaches PK how to work the PP.
  • Avatar37 : «link»
  • Avatar37 : go.
  • Avatar37 : round exit. Heck, even the year they won the cup we almost took them out in round 1. I believe in the corps of this team, I really think we just need a few tweaks. Adding Larry Robinson to run the defense would be a BIG help, keep Cunneyworth as offensive coach, and get a head coach who can get these guys back on the right path. We need to establish an identity again, a team that won't let itself be pushed around like it was under Martin. A few scrappers on this team and we'll be good to
  • Avatar37 : Yeah, the only way I'd trade PK is if we were getting an established star in return, like Carter or Crosby. I don't think we're miles away from competing deep into the playoffs, the NHL has become so competitive because of the salary cap that really there aren't huge differences between the teams. Add into the equation the stupid scoring system (some games worth 2 points, some 3) that the standings don't truly reflect where teams should really be. Look at Boston, cup winners to first rou
  • Senet1 : It would have to be something pretty special before I would trade PK. To me he is the #1 building block of our defence. I would trade any other defenceman we have before I would trade PK.
  • Senet1 : An improvement in our offense and strengthening our defence. Personally, I do not think we are that far off, five players at best could get us there. One thing that has always been true about the playoffs, Defence wins and you need a strong 3rd and 4th line.
  • goalie : I'm more optimistic now about the Habs than I have been for the past three dreadfully long seasons!
  • goalie : 2: I think GM Bergevin will make somewhat of a 'blockbuster't rade either before or on the day of the draft adn I believe PK Subban will be in that package. WE have t rememebr we have to give away some talent to get back other talent. No one wants players like Moen to move up in the draft etc.
  • goalie : Some thoughts:The more I see the playoffs it becomes even more obvious that we're miles away from being able to 'compete' dep into the playoffs
  • Avatar37 : «link»
  • Senet1 : Young Subban might also be an option if the Russian goalie is not available. However, to me I would wait another year and attempt to use my draft 2nd round draft picks to improve out forward situation.
  • Senet1 : Although Rinne contact is another example of long term at the wrong time. He is 29 years old. A case could be made with Price that double his money now with bonuses if we win the cup, I think that is still allowed in contracts?
  • Senet1 : Problem is he is going to want Pekka Rinne money and term. That is closer to 7M. On the other hand, the contract could have step up clauses in it over the 7 years.
  • Avatar37 : With Price, I wouldn't blink twice about offering him a 7 year contract now, especially if he'd be willing to give up dollar value for length. 7 years at $5.5 million a year would be just fine in my book.
  • Avatar37 : I think the goaltending void in our current system would push me to draft Vasilevski with our second pick, if he was available. He's young and has lots of potential, but is at least 5-6 years away from starting to be ready to play on an NHL roster.
  • Senet1 : Long tern contracts are a risk, but if you have a super star not as much. Luongo's contract was long term but signed too late in his career.
  • Avatar37 : Senet - Yes, you were clear in your post, my question was directed at goalie. I'm with you in that I'd be willing to sign him to a 7 year contract. I'd be nervous about anything longer, because every single long term goalie contract I can think of turned out to be a disaster for the team signing it.
  • Senet1 : I think that Budaj is a better goalie than many give him credit for, is he a Price no but with a tight defence he could be a good goalie. Many teams have average goalies but have great defence and still win. Look at Detroit, for years they have had average goaltending, but won cups. Goalies can get on a roll in the playoffs, look at Huet as an example, he was not really a good goalie but played great in the playoffs, next year he was a wash. Defence makes the goalie a winner, just ask Price.
  • Senet1 : Having a young equivalent goalie in the system right now is not important, three years from now it will be, so we have three years to make that kind of move in the draft. I think we have more pressing needs aat the moment.
  • Senet1 : Personally, I do not see this as a negative because of Price's age, you wait to draft a goalie of a Patrick Roy or Brodeur some teams wait a life time. To me we have on so why would we want to not play that out for as long as we can. Bottom line is this, regardless, right now you have a stud goalie, you are either going to pay him the money he deserves for not sign him and lose him. There is no middle of the road here.
  • goalie : Avatar made a great point. We don't have an NHL or up adn coming NHL goalies in our system. Another great move by Gauthier. Price is sitting very pretty.
  • goalie : WEll Price has us by the nads. I guess I'd have to go as far as a 7 year contract due to his play adn his age.
  • Senet1 : Luongo is now 33, he has been a good goaltender for a number of years. I would sign Price for 7 years and at age 31 then we deal with UFA at that time. Hopefully, we could provide him with another 5 years at that time. That is my opinion anyway, I would never risk losing him as a UFA at this point in his career to me that would be a very poor management decision. Even a 10 year contract would put him only at 34 years old. If you are going to sign him to long term now is the time.
  • Senet1 : If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him a contract that is worthy of his abilities and his potential. It can have escalation clauses or reducing clauses like Kovalchuk's contract.
  • Senet1 : Avatar, I thought I was clear Yes I would sign him long term. My previous post said. The problem is if you have a out in the contract after 5 years then the player also has an out after 5 years. So no self respected lawyer would accept a contract that did not have equal escape clauses. So no I would not sign only for 5 years, if Price was 28 years old yes but not a 24. Seven years still only makes him 31 when the contract is over. If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him
  • Avatar37 : Cammalleri trade. Given the fact that we have no NHL starting quality goaltenders in the system currently, aren't we held hostage to having to sign Price?
  • Avatar37 : There are many bad goalie contracts, just look at Huet. However, your post didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with Price. He's an RFA now, but for argument sake, if he were a UFA, what would you do? If he wanted a 7+ year contract, you know some other team would give him one. Would you risk losing him for nothing because you didn't want to sign a contract over 5 years? And if we lose Price, our goalies are Budaj and Robert Mayer, as we sent Karri Ramo to the Flames in the Cam
  • goalie : .. a 5 years contract again based upon the experience he has had AND he likes Bobby Lou!
  • goalie : Ditto for Philly, Ther goaltender 'situations' have both become the number 1 story line for both teams, and in Vancouver one could see the exaspiration on Gillis' adn to some extent Vigneault's faces when continously being bombarded by the loooong term contract that the Canucks are stuct with. (Gillis even said last February or so, thank goodness it looks like more than few other teams will be looking for a starting goaltender for 2012-13. He said he would never again do more than a 5 year c
  • goalie : I've spent the past four winters in BC thus I am very aware of the Canucks situations. I'd first say I give Gillis adn Vigneault 100% credit for being VERY supportive of Roberto L. even when Corey Schenider has vastly out played him. (I too like Bobby Lou but facts are facts).

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