Slump
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We all knew the Canadiens would eventually hit a slump, and they have.
The Habs have dropped 4 out of 5 and looked pretty awful at times over that stretch.
Will it get worse before it gets better?
Flashback to last year, the Canadiens had a strong start followed by a late December collapse. Lost all confidence and played mediocre hockey until the very last game. A loss that left them out of the playoffs.
All things considered, the Coach and staff and players should all be more experienced this year. Now is the time to step it up and do something to not repeat the past.
Are the Canadiens as a whole ever going to improve? Or fall back to their normal rummaging for points at the end of the season ways?
Confidence is low, the #1 goalie is injured and it won’t get easier as the Canadiens face the league leading Red Wings tonight.
- Senet1 : He may just bring all three of the kids up.
- muller93 : MB is forced to go out and get a big D-man. Missing Emelin for almost half the season is the last thing we needed to hear. Now going out and getting a big D-man is a MUST!!!
- muller93 : Now for the Fu**en Bruins who have no business even being in the second round are going to get a nice rest. Yes the same goons who took out one of best D-man for 6 more months. There is NO Fu**en justice. Just venting--Ok i feel better now.
- muller93 : So pissed to see the Rangers lay down and play like total crap. How did the Rangers beat the Caps? This team is playing with no heart--a must win and can only muster 23 shots...PATHETIC !!!
- muller93 : Senet I did see Galchenyuks goal--Made a great move for the game winner. You can see the kid has so much confidence.
- goalie : If Rangers get swept I wonder if Tortorella will get his walking papers? Or Glen Sather? They have tons of 'talent' but zero wins in this series.
- goalie : It's really too bad we lost to the Sens as we would have played the Rangers and the way NYR are playing we would have beat them too. If only. If only!
- Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
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- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
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December 4, 2007 at 4:52 pm
Who said Huet is our #1 goalie? he’s not. PRICE IS!
December 4, 2007 at 10:20 pm
Omg. This game is telling. I heard Gaigney before the game re: not wanting to make any trades, but the real problem isn’t just effort, it’s skill. Mark Streit is on the first line. Nothing against the guy, but he is not a first line player. Then again, neither is Ryder, even at his best. Frustrating. It’s been decades since Montreal has had a good team–enough with the incest!
December 4, 2007 at 10:21 pm
well guys It looks like were loosing this one. hey the leafs will be only 2 pts behind eh. It’s too bad we don’t have a good team anymore like the 80′s and early 90′s. Either than Price coming up what good has gainey done?
December 4, 2007 at 10:55 pm
To be honest, I stopped watching this game at the end of the 2nd period. What’s the point? they had no energy, just going thru the motions. It really loked like the wings were toying with the habs. I feel sorry for Price. He has no D in front of him. Too bad what this franchise has become. I think we should try and get some high draft picks and rebuild like Chicago did. That’s the only solution. Also, trade Koivu go a contender. he deserves that much.
the rest-Bouillon, Brisebois,Smolinski, Ryder,Begin, WAIVE!
December 4, 2007 at 10:59 pm
I agree with you but mtl has the young guys coming up. Trade Ryder Now!!!! I know that since he’s not doing great It might be hard but, we have to do something.Trade Huet and Ryder for Tanguay!!! I’ll do anything, just to see the habs winnig again!!!
December 4, 2007 at 11:04 pm
Yike’s ,we got killed tonite,only positives …Dandy’s flying tackle…I loves it! We need a trade badly BOB…S.O.S..S.O.S..S.O.S..S.O.S…L.O.L.And bring UP some SIZE,LETS ATLEAST WIN A FIGHT,DAM!
December 4, 2007 at 11:08 pm
It’s last December all over again. Please Mr Gainey do something now. I cant handle another year like last season with no moves to improve the team when it needed help dont let another season pass by!
December 4, 2007 at 11:11 pm
by far the worse game seen them play this year. it looked like a peewee team playing Detroit..at least Dandy was showing some heart near the end. other then that it was a waste of a good sheet of ice..”A TRADE IS WHAT WE NEED”
December 4, 2007 at 11:38 pm
All you Huet/Bashers aka ignorant fans who think Price is our answer are in for a big wake up call….You guys are right…Huet is NOT our #1 goalies.He was supposed to be..he was called our #1, he has #1 stats maybe even allstar stats but #1 goalies don’t split starts with their back-ups….how was huet supposed to gain his confidence? How is he supposed to get in a groove? He can’t//Look at Lunogo….he lets 5-6 goals all the time the first 2 months but the coaches are smart enough to recognize it’s not his fault and he gets great every year….we did the same thing last year to Huet….
I love Price.he is ourfuture but he’sgonna find out how truly badly this team sucks from the Gm/coach on down….
Are we gonna make some trades…waive some people? pick up someone? how about recchi? he’s available and don’t tell me we don’t have room…he couldn’t be worse than our other moves cause we don’t have any
this is the same as last year….wasting our time fighting for a playoff spot we don’t deserve…..Poor Huet only guy I feel sorry for..and now Price too
December 4, 2007 at 11:41 pm
If this team continues to lose, I’m going to stop watching their games. It hurts too much to lose, and I’m just so tired of losing, without changes!
December 5, 2007 at 12:18 am
If the Habs are in the division cellar by the deadline(early febuary I believe or is it late febuary? Anybody know?)The I think Carbo will have been fired already and Koivu will have demanded a trade out of town. Kovalev will be a commodity to be dealt along with Ryder(who got booed whenever the puck touched his stick in the third), Huet and some team may even take a flyer on Smolinski. There has to be a major problem in the dressing room of some kind cause this is three years(yes three. First year out of the lockout they collapsed to but they barely made the playoffs thanks to Huet and Gainey taking over as coach) in a row they’ve collapsed. I love Saku as much as the next guy, but it’s plainly obvious his days as a #1 centre and the leader of the canadiens are over. That marriage needs to end for both sides.
With the cap room generated by this(13.5 million extra) and hopefully some first round draft picks in return(this years first round is being compared to that of 2003 where most of the young up and coming superstars (ie. Perry, Getzlaf, Phaneuf, Staal, Horton, Vanek, Michalek, Bernier, Suter, Carter, Richards, Dustin Brown, Seabrook, Parise, were all drafted). People will probably say this is premature cause it’s only December 4th, but unlike past years I see no light at the end of the tunnel here. It’s time to cut of the head of this rotting corps that is the roster.
December 5, 2007 at 12:27 am
I see my comments have been deleted………….
December 5, 2007 at 1:24 am
i think the anger of montrealers are being under estimated ,and our love for the game over estimated , all i can say to the team manger , remember the expos
long losing streak , better and new sports attract the fans
and before you know it
the canadiens will be bankrupt and sold ( can you imagine Quebec without a team )
may be i am going nuts ,or i am just a student of history
all we have left to be proud of in this damn city is the soccer impact
December 5, 2007 at 1:37 am
Price did **** every goal he let in was weak!!!!!!!!!
December 5, 2007 at 11:36 am
O’Byrne and Lapierre have been recalled. Grabovski has been sent to Hamilton.
what took so long?
December 6, 2007 at 1:29 am
Hey,coach Carbo ,got yourballs back eh!Good onyou man!KEEP IT UP,LET THEM KNOW WHO IS BOSS AND MORE CHANGES WILL BE MADE IF THIS HORSESHIT CONTINUES!!! yOU ARE BACK IN MY GOOD BOOKS GUY!!!
December 6, 2007 at 10:12 am
I would like to point out a post last year I made CONSERNING Burtuzzi,when I, WHO SAW THEGAME and kNEW THE vANCOVER COACH HAD DIRECTeD HIM TO AN ATTACT ON MOORE,and for all those people that tryed to lamblast me,BLOW ME!!!!!!!lol.I know my Hockey real good!!!!Yo , and I still say we need Bertuzzi,fool!!!!lol……
December 6, 2007 at 12:23 pm
Well Carbo has done it again. Now he’s putting Smolinski on the 1st line with Koivu and Higgins. Unbelievable! And get this: Brisebois and Bouillon will be paired. Either Carbo has mush for brains, or he just wants to see lots of goals scored on Briseby and Bouillon, and how slowinski can be half a step behind Koivu and Higgins. Panic and stupidity have overcome Carbo.
December 6, 2007 at 12:59 pm
I think Ryder should be scratched tonight. Latendresse has been scratched. I think Carbo is just way to eager to see Ryder return to his play. I bought a ersey last year and I had a decision to make(Higgins or Ryder.) my dad said Ryder is really consistent and Higgins isn’t very.I ended up choosing Higgy over Ryder-thank god!!!lol
December 6, 2007 at 5:04 pm
Guy Lafleur was right.
December 8, 2007 at 5:30 pm
No one on this team is really playing good offensive hockey. Maybe Kovy. So why is Ryder the only one being disciplined?? Whats Koivu doing?? He’s the captain, he’s the leader, and once again, as like every year he’s been there, severley low output. I’ve seen every game this year, and the last 10 or 12 games for sure, the guy is invisible. So wheres the great leadership qualities?? Bottom line is, the team is offensively null…theres not enough skill there to be anything else…and it seems Carbo is trying to mold a team full of himself. Any team only want 2 or 3 defensive forwards…not 2 or 3 lines…who’s gonna score Guy?? Rolling 4 lines is hurting also. Every time you look, Begin, Chipchura, Kostopolous, guys like this are on there. Should be 3 or 4 shifts a period and almost exclusively on the PK, just like the sucessful teams in the league (with the exception of the top 2 teams whose 3rd and 4th lines can actually score somewhat regularly. If theres not enough skill there Bob…trade man !!!!! Ryder is obvoiusly not welcomed with open arms. Easy to tell by the singling out of him for punishment this year, and the pitiful contract the teams top goal producer recieved. Hows about at least trying for Marleau? Might sound crazy but word is he’s not getting along very well with the powers that be in San Jose. Hows about these 2 in a trade…straight up. Someone who can score when coached right like Ryder would probably be welcomed in San Jose with there recent struggles. Throw him out with Thornton, let him become a good player again. And Marleau can do it…he’s proved this…except this year…maybe a change of pace would work out for him also. Put him with Koivu, see if this can bump up the output for both of them. Gotta try something Bob, we all know where a team that can’t score ends up at years end. Remember last year? I sure do. Let offensive players be offensive Guy…would a team full of “you” won either Cup in 86 or 93 ??? Limit the 3rd and 4th lines ice time, and try sniffing out a good trade. Come on guys, lets get this team back on top where they belong. Enough of the frustrations. GO HABS GO !!!!