Steve Begin Breaks Foot

Steve Begin fractured his foot in Sunday’s game against Columbus and will be out of the lineup yet again.

It feels like Begin hasn’t even been part of this team this year due to all the games he’s missed.

An important gritty player the Habs could have used down the stretch.

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#1 T-RUM says:
February 21, 2007 at 9:04 am

anybody besides me notice that when joshtm is not on, neither is JL55 ( the guy who applauds his posts?)…coincidence?

#2 T-RUM says:
February 21, 2007 at 11:04 am

“Gaby” sends in the following on the Montreal Canadiens: “Michel Villeneuve on the late night show 110% in Montreal has announced that the Habs are imminent on a deal with the Minnesota Wild involving Benoit Pouliot, nothing else was said. It also appears that the Wild have been scouting Habs games and that Assistant General Manager Pierre Gauthier has been scouting the Wild. Villeneuve goes on to say that since Bob Gainey has announced he would speak to the media when there would be news to talk about a couple weeks ago, something may be imminent since Gainey has agreed to speak to the media on Thursday in Nashville.” Hat tip also to Louis

#3 Joshtm says:
February 21, 2007 at 11:16 am

hey T-Rum you are a real funny guy.

I think the habs are in for **** kicking tomorrow, and Gainey is gonna bring the team down by being physically in the same building as the team. Anyone notice when Gainey is not at the games the team is energized? Coincidence?

Hey T-Rum what other great conspiracy theories do you have. The media routinely asks Gainey to be present for media interviews, I think they want to interview him on the slump and why no trades are involved.

A-GMs routinely scout each others teams but very little comes of it.

#4 Joshtm says:
February 21, 2007 at 11:19 am

Hey Habs4ever would see us trade the kid line that has basically lifted us out of a slump, I guess like Gainey, Habs4ever is only happy when the habs are losing….I say bring up Kosty and Grabby and have a real **** kicking line. Dandy and Boully are just pansies honestly. Limp noodles.

#5 T-RUM says:
February 21, 2007 at 11:52 am

conspiracy theories?

lmao

you are a demented little man but,

you are a habs fan – gotta give you that

hey, here’s one I heard on team 990 yesterday:

maple leaf fans are the type of people that think Taco Bell is a Mexican phone company.

struck me funny

anybody seen Frank this morning?

#6 smiler2729 says:
February 21, 2007 at 12:08 pm

I’m a Montrealer who moved to Toronto in 1987 (came for school, got a job, never left)… Grew to hate the Leafs and especially their fans, 6 years ago, I even moved 70 kms northwest of Toronto cuz the city’s so blah…

I love hockey (as we all do) so while I work the afternoon shift (4-12) I listen to my second favourite team (whoever plays the Leafs) on the radio thru the Walkman. Don’t know if any of you know but they have a TV station LeafsTV and they dissect the game afterwards (segment called ‘After The Horn’) and take calls from ‘Leaf Nation’. It’s simulcast on LaffsTV and the radio so I listen only when they lose and last night was just beautiful.

A shut-’em-down 3-0 win by the Bruins in Toronto and boy, were the fans about to lose it, calling Sundin a bad captain, saying the team had no killer instinct, that they better trade Sundin and/or Tucker before they become UFAs, criticizing the goaltender (Raycroft got the hook), slamming coach Paul Maurice for his line combos and, oh yeah, FIRE THE G.M. ASAP! It was Toronto’s first regulation loss since the Penguins killed ‘em 8-2 before the All-Star break!

SOUND FAMILIAR? DOES IT NOT BOTHER YOU THAT SOME HERE SOUND LIKE LEAF MORONS WHEN THE HABS LOSE? We’re all Hab fans here but some of you have nothing better to do than slam the entire organization after a loss, please, PLEASE KNOCK IT OFF, YOU SOUND LIKE LEAF FANS AND THAT SHOULD JUST SHAME YOU…

In Bob We Trust.

#7 R habs 4 real says:
February 21, 2007 at 1:11 pm

Hey Smiler: I watch on my dish ” after the horn”, but ONLY when the leafs LOSE!
Hab fans think alike. I especially enjoyed watching when leafs were on that 7 game losing streak. So, it shows that fans in all cities get frantic when their team loses. But I feel smug when it’s the leafs.
I hope the injury to Higgins isn’t serious. We can’t afford to lose him now. The team is almost depleted of players. I don’t mind Kovalev, Huet, or Rivet out, but not Higgins. Maybe it’s our fate, so the kids from Hamilton can come and show their stuff. Since you leave outside Toronto, do you ever go to Hamilton to watch some of their games?

#8 Alestar says:
February 21, 2007 at 1:42 pm

smiler2729: true dat! We’ve got a pretty decent young team, best we’ve had in more than 10 years.

Let Bob do his thing and Lord Stanley will be coming home soon enough…

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#9 smiler2729 says:
February 21, 2007 at 1:48 pm

Smug’s the word… VERY SMUG.

Classic Leaf moments of Smugness for me:
*’03 Playoffs- Martin Gelinas scores in OT as Carolina knocks out the Leafs and Cujo’s played his last game in Toronto.
*’04 Playoffs- After Sideshow Bob Darcy Tucker takes himself out of the play with a bodycheck on Sami Kapanen, Jeremy Roenick skates in alone down the wing and eliminates the Leafs with a great shot as the Flyers take the series.
*Last March in Montreal, 2 games back to back with the Habs with their playoff fate in their hands, the Laffs get creamed by the Greatest Team On The Planet in consecutive shellackings! BEEEE-U- TIFUL!

Yeah, the 7 game slide early this season was satisfying especially all those ’3rd period’ collapses! Also, Bouillon beating the **** out of Tucker early this season was cool.

That team and its fans are so easy to loathe with their little tin foil Stanley Cups hoisted over their heads as they run up and down Yonge Street after the Leafs win a playoff game!

As for the Bulldogs, we keep talking about going over to see a game but never get around to it but we’re definitely going to take in an OHL game in March to see John Tavares and Oshawa play Mississauga. Any free time I do have is spent with the kids or playing hockey with the boys, thank God my wife’s a hockey fanatic too (Blue Jackets fan but shares the hatred of all things ‘Leaf’)

#10 Xhabsfan says:
February 21, 2007 at 1:57 pm

smiler, smiler ,smiler ,smiler,
Now I know U taken too many Phil Esposito frozen street hockey balls to da head ,backstopper!!Just want attention or something,lol??? You should play less street hockey cause your game is OFF and start watching more RDS out there in LIL new york,SO YOU CAN BRODEN YOUR POMPUS AND DALUSSIONAL THINKING. It’s not even worth talking to you half the time cause you are so much in denile . STart watching the games smiler before you talk and only then it will come to you. Oh ya ,I’m older than you so take the free advice ROGIE.

#11 smiler2729 says:
February 21, 2007 at 2:12 pm

Street hockey?
BRODEN? Broaden. POMPUS? Pompous. DALUSSIONAL? Delusional. DENILE? Denial.

Huh?
What?

Magilla Gorilla at the keyboard?

RDS?

IN…
BOB…
WE…
TRUST.

All others must be Leaf Fans.

#12 Habz4EveR says:
February 21, 2007 at 2:57 pm

HAHA Duuuude… Just because I proved to ya that both Washington goals were scored while the kid line was on the ice doesn’t mean I want us to trade em! Look for one place where I speak about Bob, the kid line, and trading in the same comment. Find any? No. That’s what I thought. So Josh, stop inventing BS to defend urself cuz ur starting to get people on ur backs. If it wasn’t for the fact that we both love and cheer the same team and loath the Leafs, I wouldn’t be so polite.

I’m only 18 and maybe you’ve been around to see more hockey then me, but I just stated facts and you can’t deny those. So don’t start blaming the Koivu line, nor me for wanting to trade youngsters, without EVIDENCE!!!

#13 val1841 says:
February 26, 2007 at 5:12 pm

yeah Steve Begin is my best player.. and i wish i will come back before the season end!.. hehe!.. i love you begin

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Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
Avatar37 : Goalie - Sure, the only player I'd say who is untradeable (meaning I wouldn't trade no matter what) is Carey Price. You build a winning team from the net out, and I don't think there's a better goalie for his age in the NHL than Price, so I wouldn't trade him. Otherwise, every player would be open for offers, but for PK Subban, it would take (for me) an already established star, like Carter or Crosby or Ovechkin. As much as I like Ovechkin, I'm not sure he could handle all the media pre
goalie : I'm not suggesting at all that we judst dump or get rid of PK. I do however believe that he is a very valued commodity in the NHL adn that the Habs will receive offers for his services. If someone ffers us young, strong, puck handling forwards who can score, I think the Habs have to look at that possible trade.
Avatar37 : Agreed. It would be a big mistake to trade PK just to move up 2 spots in the draft. PK, Emelin, and Gorges are the bright future of our defense.
Senet1 : I am with you Avatar, Subban stays, it is not often that you get a stud defenceman who can play 25+ minutes. The mistakes he makes are for the most part not that serious and people forget he is only 23 and been in the league 2 years. He has come a long way in those two years. He has offense, defence and he hits. You cannot bet much better than that. Two more years experience and he has a shot at the Norris. If Markov does anything I hope he teaches PK how to work the PP.
Avatar37 : «link»
Avatar37 : go.
Avatar37 : round exit. Heck, even the year they won the cup we almost took them out in round 1. I believe in the corps of this team, I really think we just need a few tweaks. Adding Larry Robinson to run the defense would be a BIG help, keep Cunneyworth as offensive coach, and get a head coach who can get these guys back on the right path. We need to establish an identity again, a team that won't let itself be pushed around like it was under Martin. A few scrappers on this team and we'll be good to
Avatar37 : Yeah, the only way I'd trade PK is if we were getting an established star in return, like Carter or Crosby. I don't think we're miles away from competing deep into the playoffs, the NHL has become so competitive because of the salary cap that really there aren't huge differences between the teams. Add into the equation the stupid scoring system (some games worth 2 points, some 3) that the standings don't truly reflect where teams should really be. Look at Boston, cup winners to first rou
Senet1 : It would have to be something pretty special before I would trade PK. To me he is the #1 building block of our defence. I would trade any other defenceman we have before I would trade PK.
Senet1 : An improvement in our offense and strengthening our defence. Personally, I do not think we are that far off, five players at best could get us there. One thing that has always been true about the playoffs, Defence wins and you need a strong 3rd and 4th line.
goalie : I'm more optimistic now about the Habs than I have been for the past three dreadfully long seasons!
goalie : 2: I think GM Bergevin will make somewhat of a 'blockbuster't rade either before or on the day of the draft adn I believe PK Subban will be in that package. WE have t rememebr we have to give away some talent to get back other talent. No one wants players like Moen to move up in the draft etc.
goalie : Some thoughts:The more I see the playoffs it becomes even more obvious that we're miles away from being able to 'compete' dep into the playoffs
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Senet1 : Young Subban might also be an option if the Russian goalie is not available. However, to me I would wait another year and attempt to use my draft 2nd round draft picks to improve out forward situation.
Senet1 : Although Rinne contact is another example of long term at the wrong time. He is 29 years old. A case could be made with Price that double his money now with bonuses if we win the cup, I think that is still allowed in contracts?
Senet1 : Problem is he is going to want Pekka Rinne money and term. That is closer to 7M. On the other hand, the contract could have step up clauses in it over the 7 years.
Avatar37 : With Price, I wouldn't blink twice about offering him a 7 year contract now, especially if he'd be willing to give up dollar value for length. 7 years at $5.5 million a year would be just fine in my book.
Avatar37 : I think the goaltending void in our current system would push me to draft Vasilevski with our second pick, if he was available. He's young and has lots of potential, but is at least 5-6 years away from starting to be ready to play on an NHL roster.
Senet1 : Long tern contracts are a risk, but if you have a super star not as much. Luongo's contract was long term but signed too late in his career.
Avatar37 : Senet - Yes, you were clear in your post, my question was directed at goalie. I'm with you in that I'd be willing to sign him to a 7 year contract. I'd be nervous about anything longer, because every single long term goalie contract I can think of turned out to be a disaster for the team signing it.
Senet1 : I think that Budaj is a better goalie than many give him credit for, is he a Price no but with a tight defence he could be a good goalie. Many teams have average goalies but have great defence and still win. Look at Detroit, for years they have had average goaltending, but won cups. Goalies can get on a roll in the playoffs, look at Huet as an example, he was not really a good goalie but played great in the playoffs, next year he was a wash. Defence makes the goalie a winner, just ask Price.
Senet1 : Having a young equivalent goalie in the system right now is not important, three years from now it will be, so we have three years to make that kind of move in the draft. I think we have more pressing needs aat the moment.
Senet1 : Personally, I do not see this as a negative because of Price's age, you wait to draft a goalie of a Patrick Roy or Brodeur some teams wait a life time. To me we have on so why would we want to not play that out for as long as we can. Bottom line is this, regardless, right now you have a stud goalie, you are either going to pay him the money he deserves for not sign him and lose him. There is no middle of the road here.
goalie : Avatar made a great point. We don't have an NHL or up adn coming NHL goalies in our system. Another great move by Gauthier. Price is sitting very pretty.
goalie : WEll Price has us by the nads. I guess I'd have to go as far as a 7 year contract due to his play adn his age.
Senet1 : Luongo is now 33, he has been a good goaltender for a number of years. I would sign Price for 7 years and at age 31 then we deal with UFA at that time. Hopefully, we could provide him with another 5 years at that time. That is my opinion anyway, I would never risk losing him as a UFA at this point in his career to me that would be a very poor management decision. Even a 10 year contract would put him only at 34 years old. If you are going to sign him to long term now is the time.
Senet1 : If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him a contract that is worthy of his abilities and his potential. It can have escalation clauses or reducing clauses like Kovalchuk's contract.
Senet1 : Avatar, I thought I was clear Yes I would sign him long term. My previous post said. The problem is if you have a out in the contract after 5 years then the player also has an out after 5 years. So no self respected lawyer would accept a contract that did not have equal escape clauses. So no I would not sign only for 5 years, if Price was 28 years old yes but not a 24. Seven years still only makes him 31 when the contract is over. If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him
Avatar37 : Cammalleri trade. Given the fact that we have no NHL starting quality goaltenders in the system currently, aren't we held hostage to having to sign Price?
Avatar37 : There are many bad goalie contracts, just look at Huet. However, your post didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with Price. He's an RFA now, but for argument sake, if he were a UFA, what would you do? If he wanted a 7+ year contract, you know some other team would give him one. Would you risk losing him for nothing because you didn't want to sign a contract over 5 years? And if we lose Price, our goalies are Budaj and Robert Mayer, as we sent Karri Ramo to the Flames in the Cam
goalie : .. a 5 years contract again based upon the experience he has had AND he likes Bobby Lou!
goalie : Ditto for Philly, Ther goaltender 'situations' have both become the number 1 story line for both teams, and in Vancouver one could see the exaspiration on Gillis' adn to some extent Vigneault's faces when continously being bombarded by the loooong term contract that the Canucks are stuct with. (Gillis even said last February or so, thank goodness it looks like more than few other teams will be looking for a starting goaltender for 2012-13. He said he would never again do more than a 5 year c
goalie : I've spent the past four winters in BC thus I am very aware of the Canucks situations. I'd first say I give Gillis adn Vigneault 100% credit for being VERY supportive of Roberto L. even when Corey Schenider has vastly out played him. (I too like Bobby Lou but facts are facts).