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The Aftermath

  • Ok.

    It’s been a couple days since the Canadiens took a pounding from the Ottawa Senators in which they gave up 8 goals, 6 of them coming so quick and compounding so hard that it left no other choice to pull Cristobal Huet on the same day he was announced an All-Star.

    The Canadiens played an awful first period with many defensive lapses. Throw in a few bad bounces and the Sens had an insurmountable lead early in the game. Ugly. No way to start Hockey Day in Canada.

    Did the Habs play poorly? No question. Are there defensive concerns on this team? Absolutely. Is the whole season trashed and burnt because of one bad loss? Not even close.

    When you’re being beaten badly your coach will tell you to go out and ‘win the period.’ The game might be over but win the period and leave on a good note. The Canadiens woke up in the third and although it was much too late, they did ‘win the period’.

    There is some concern when you lose 6 of your last 10 and prior to that have never lost more than 2 consecutive games. It hurts extra being beaten by 5 goals while on National TV coast to coast, but in the end it’s one game and professionals can move on from a bad game.

    The fact remains that a season is based on 82 games and not 1. Or 2 or even 6 or 10.

    Even the Leafs managed to score 10 goals in a game this year and the Leafs have about as much chance making the Playoffs as Tomas Kaberle has growing a beard.
    “Trade him”, “demote him”, “call him up”. That is all most people can manage to say when they are frustrated with the team.
    Could a move help? Certainly.
    Speculating on every single player and transaction possible is futile, if a good deal can be made to improve the team then Bob Gainey will make it. Bottom line. You don’t know what it will be or when it will be especially with Bob.
    milky creamy tomas kaberle

    Do you think Bob Gainey doesn’t know Sergei Samsonov is a bust? Do you think when they see Yannick Perrault named an All Star and has more goals than Michael Ryder, Sergei Samsonov, or Alex Kovalev they don’t think back?

    The Habs are still in good position. This is where coaching and leadership have to come in and take over.

    Is it going to be easy? Of course not. The new NHL is all about parity and all about any team winning on any given night. Since the Christmas break some of the hottest teams in the league are the Coyotes, Blues, Canucks and Blue Jackets.

    Would anyone have predicted that? Could anyone have? That’s what makes hockey great to follow and great to watch.

    Is it going to get worse before it gets better? Two things the Habs have struggled with badly are afternoon games and back to back games. The Habs don’t play this afternoon but they do go to Motorcity to take on the Red Wings before coming home to take on the Canucks.

    Mathieu Dandenault’s first trip back to Detroit after spending most of his career a Red Wing.

    The Habs play so rarely in Detroit it’s hard to know what to expect. Will Carbonneau shake up the lines or take any drastic measures? Find out at game time.

54 Comments
  1. #1 smiler2729 says:
    January 15, 2007 at 11:53 am

    Watch tonight as the Habs play a tight defensive game and win it 3-1 or something like that… after Saturday’s abandonment of poor Cris Huet, you know they all got yelled at by the coaches. Maybe the Russians will show up.

  2. That game on saturday was a definite wake up call for the Habs and their continuing struggles on national TV. I hope the boys will come out flying tonight in Hockeytown, especially after the tough practice Carbo put them through on sunday. Let us hope that saturday was rock bottom for this team. GO HABS GO!!!

  3. #3 high 4 habs says:
    January 15, 2007 at 12:26 pm

    And just maybe the russians won’t show up, AS USUAL!
    I don’t think will change between now, and the rest of the season, unless changes are made. In fact, I think it will only exacerbate, culminating in an 8th place finish, if we are lucky. teams without an adequate defense, and little offence, don’t generally go too far. damn it, we don’t even have a 2ND LINE CENTER! So what do you really expect?

  4. I fear were going to get LACLAIRED by our old defence,man I’d like to see a turnaround with the Habs.This game will either break or make em.I’m going to watch the game on the old T.V.,don’t want to put my foot through the L.C.D. If we don’t win…,It will be fun to hear the rants and tyraids to come,I’m still lol at the last blog.GOOOOO HABS!

  5. #5 smiler2729 says:
    January 15, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    Why isn’t Radek Bonk, Chris Higgins or Mike Johnson the 2nd line center? And why does Kovalev and Samsonov HAVE to play together? It’s obvious they don’t click. Why can’t Samsonov play up with Koivu and Latendresse? I guess Carbo’s been trying everything but that 2nd line ain’t working at all… ever!

  6. #6 What the $%*&? says:
    January 15, 2007 at 1:35 pm

    I have been a Hab fan ever since I can remember (early 70′s), and I have never seen such a lack of passion to play in the NHL as I have on this tema in the last 10 games. Remember, in the late 90′s they were not a very good team but made up with in EFFORT. Sure they didn’t make the playoffs but at least as a fan I was somewhat okay with their effort. It was a lack of talent due to the Serge Savard/ Tremblay era.
    Now they do have the talent but choose not to COMPETE. When on 5 on 5 we just look confused. When it come toe PP and PK; it seems to come together. With that said and given the coaching history (their expertise on specialty teams) teams know that to beat the habs all you do is not take penalties. If that strategy is followed. The habs will loose! Plain and Simple.
    Remeber last year with Gainey; they could score 5 on 5 and were decent on the PK and PP. The result is; they won or they were always in the game.
    Gainey needs to coach the coaches and TELL them to practice 5 on 5. You don’t get that good at the PK and PP by not emphasizing this in practice.

    Bottom line is Carbo thought that with the Habs speed they’d benefit by many PP opportunties. And they did. But now the NHL is on to them and the time has come to make a coaching adjustment. This of course will take some time and do we have time. I think so.

  7. I think the Habs will win tonight in Detroit. They have been able to rebound after losses and should do that well tonight. Go Habs Go!

    Ziyad

  8. #8 HabsInBlood says:
    January 15, 2007 at 2:07 pm

    HabsBlog – nice post. I especially liked the comment about Kaberle that obviously reflects the required amount of disdain you have for the Leafs – a pre-requisite of any Habs fan.

    I may sound like a broken record, but I hope Kovy and Sammy are separated for a while to see what happens. By “a while” I mean more than a shift or period. Re: Bonk line 2nd vs. 3rd, they are undoubtebly the best defensive line and play against the opposing team’s top line. Other than the 4th line, you shouldn’t look at the 1st, 2nd and 3rd in any order of prestige, priority or importance to the team. 5 on 5, they are all equally important. On the powerplay, the 1st, 2nd lines play because they are supposed to be the most offensively talented. I remember Carbo put the Bonk line on the powerplay once and they sucked.

  9. #9 Kazmojo says:
    January 15, 2007 at 2:27 pm

    HB your post was right on the mark. Kudos.

    As for Sammy and Kovy skating together, it’s b/c Sammy’s a right-handed left winger and Kovy’s a left-handed right winger. Ryder (another righty) has been playing with Kovy on the PP lately, but Kovy still plays the right side. Of course, this makes it more difficult to catch pucks shooting around the boards.

    But righty left winger or not, Sammy is just not producing and is part of Kovy’s problem. Kovy is more of a playmaker than a goalscorer, and Sammy’s just not finishing his many chances.

  10. #10 joshtm says:
    January 15, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    Its sad and kinda sends out all the wrong signals when we compare the Habs to the Laffs! Then you gotta know something is really wrong with the Habs!

  11. #11 joshtm says:
    January 15, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    Kinda like saying Gainey is not what we expected him to be after he gave up the bench to Carbo, and what is with Carbo’s coaching style?

  12. #12 Jack Tornton says:
    January 15, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    You all know what?
    what: I don’t even know why I am posting this comment but i HAVE THIS FEELING BOOB GAINEY IS READY TO PULL THE TRIGGER–MAN HE’S GOING TO ACQUIRE A PLAYER NO ONE EVEN THOUGHT OF, FURTHERMORE THIS BPLAYER WILL PRODUCE FROM THE VERY FIRST DAY HE WILL PLAY FOR US, THE GREATEST CITY OF HOCKEY……..MONTREAL

    Jack

  13. #13 Jack Tornton says:
    January 15, 2007 at 5:39 pm

    Definition of Hockey: a sport belonging to Montreal which ghosts have been absents for the past 13 years.* Scientifics proves they are on their way back to Bell Centre. Doctor Blaine Johnson claimed that the ghosts have been sleeping and lost their way as they woke up at the Forum

    Bottom Point: They are returning to Bell Centre.

  14. #14 Jack Tornton says:
    January 15, 2007 at 5:40 pm

    *Scientifics have proven( not : proves )lol

  15. #15 ziman says:
    January 15, 2007 at 5:52 pm

    Joshtm, why are you even posting something on this site when you are not a Habs fan? Only Montreal Canadiens fans are allowed to be on this site. You keep saying that the Canadiens need to make chanhes all the time, well why don’t you go and run the team. You say they should get rid of all their players and coaching staff, well I agree with some other posts here that you are on crack and you need to get some professional help because you need to get a life. I hate it when people like you come on this site and insult the Habs. We all know you are a Leafs fan (therefore you cannot get laid). Why don’t you just admit it that you like the Leafs and never come on this site again, Asshole!

    Ziman

  16. 20-0 Canadiens

  17. #17 HabsInBlood says:
    January 15, 2007 at 7:30 pm

    So the objective re: score is to get the fewest points possible, but for the scorers is to get the most points possible? Are these two separate pools?

    In either case:

    3-1 Montreal (Higgins, Latendresse, Ryder).

  18. Dude, it was a joke! I always play score guessing games.

    I thik 3-2 Habs in OT.

    Koivu.

  19. Expect the unexpected

  20. #20 high 4 habs says:
    January 15, 2007 at 8:27 pm

    Aebischer has to go! just let in a SOFT goal! Even the TSN broadcasters said, he should have stopped it. the guy makes me so nervous, because he’s so crappy!

  21. #21 joshtm says:
    January 15, 2007 at 8:41 pm

    Carbo’s face showed it all, he is on the way out. Only a matter of time before Gilette who is a winner, picks a winner. Won’t be suprised if the Bob is yanked too at the end of the season….

  22. Joshtm, for real……..

  23. #23 joshtm says:
    January 15, 2007 at 8:48 pm

    Hey ziman, the habs were bad on the power play, even short handed the wings managed to skate in, the defense sucks. It is time for a change for sure. I guess Gainey would love to have you on his friggen floor, ziman, you are a court jester in the olde days….make fun of those who speak the truth eh?

    At least Ryder is showing spunk and style, same with Koivu…if only the defense would contribute, and even the wings notice the offense of the habs but hey, all those penalties the wings drew were on the forwards….and of course Dandy had to answer back with a stupid penalty.

    Even five on three, Hasek showed great skill. The moves are there for sure, but the habs are missing a strong winger or centre, and they have no defense whatsoever.

  24. #24 high 4 habs says:
    January 15, 2007 at 8:50 pm

    you can see in the 1st period ,how much superior a hockey team Detroit is, to Montreal. Detroit is always in the upper class, (they always have a terrific talented hockey team), and the habs, sadly, will stay at the bottom of the heap, with NO TALENT! It’s just sad how this organization has shrunk to having such a mediocre team!

  25. #25 high 4 habs says:
    January 15, 2007 at 8:54 pm

    Bob McKenzie, on TSN, just said how bad the habs defence is, and he also said,(what we already know) that Rivet is a -11, and the entire D must pick it up!
    Sorry, Bob, not gonna happen!

  26. #26 joshtm says:
    January 15, 2007 at 9:31 pm

    Hey Izzy, the Emperor Gainey has no clothes, but oh what fine threads he has eh? And his fine General Carbo is winning big in the defense eh? HAHAHA…

    Alas I believe one day the Habs will get a real GM and a real coach who can use the great team we have to make it win again!!!

  27. #27 joshtm says:
    January 15, 2007 at 9:33 pm

    That was a great hit Plekanic drew in the first, anyone see glass break into a spiderweb behind the Wings net? and Markov with a great hit drew a hook…keep up the hits boys!

  28. #28 high 4 habs says:
    January 15, 2007 at 9:42 pm

    I can’t stand Glen Healy! He does the broadcasts for TSN. he is so biased, and so critical, ans so anti habs. Byw, in case you noticed,TSN has a poll. the question: which city in Canada is hockeytown Canada? believe it or not, so far Toronto is leading, 35%, MTL 29%. It burns me up, that leafs with only 11 cups, (and us with 24 cups) people think is the best hockey town.So, if you guys want to vote for Montreal, go on: TSN.ca and vote for MTL, because I hate Toronto!

  29. #29 joshtm says:
    January 15, 2007 at 9:52 pm

    That sucked too! Everyone knows Hockeytown in Canada is Montreal, always has been always will be.

    Kinda like when friggen Campbell and the NHL used to rig the scoring stats so the Rocket would not break the record in Toronto….

    Kinda like ziman who doesn’t believe in Victory, in a glory for the Habs again!!!!

    They have it, they can do it, they can win the cup, just get rid of Carbo and Gainey, get a real coach and GM who can use the rookies and some of the talent that is there now in the Habs, a couple of good trades, then we have the ingredients for a cup! Sooner than the Laffs who will probably never again get a cup, not in the new NHL….

  30. #30 Habs#1 says:
    January 15, 2007 at 10:18 pm

    The Glory days are over. Scotty Bowman and Toe Blake aren’t going to coach this team again. Serge Savard, Dick Irvin or John Furgueson aren’t going to manage the Habs ever again.

    Name one GM or Coach that has had a dynasty since Glenn Sather with the Oilers. Oh that’s right you can’t!

    The days of your youth were winning the cup was a regular thing for the Habs is over.

    Deal with it you figgin Leafs fans.

  31. #31 high 4 habs says:
    January 15, 2007 at 10:25 pm

    Aebischer let in another SOFT goal!!!! HE COST US THE GAME, AGAIN! If he starts in goal again, I’m turning off the game, because we will always lose with Aebischer in nets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Our defense STINKS, and NO OFFENCE! our PP STINKS, too! I noticed hab players standing around too much, not skating, letting Detroit control the puck, and what the hell is Plekanec doing on the 1st line? Carbo doesn’t know what he’s doing. But don’t worry hab fans, we’ll still finish in 8th place, and somehow back into the playoffs. You’ll be able to see at least 4 playoff games, that’s all! This team is just PATHETIC! Please Gainey go and get some talent! also, please get rid of Rivet , Samsonov,Kovalev, and Aebischer, too!

  32. #32 Habs#1 says:
    January 15, 2007 at 10:45 pm

    high 4 habs, I definitly see your points(except for Carbo, I think he’s going to be a good coach. I mean Jeez it’s his first year as a head coach, let him get his feet wet a little.)

    But Gainey is not the type of GM who overhaules his roster in the middle of the year. He knows what he has and he’ll deal with it in the offseason. I’ve said all along that this Habs team will make a serious run for top spot and the cup next year. I’m sticking with that.

    The Defence needs to be revamped in the offseason and the Russians, all of them(Samsonov, Kovalev, Perezhogin who i’ve given up on) need to go. And the top two lines need a right handed winger once Sammy is gone and a big #2 centre.

    But really knowing Gainey there’s no use in compaining about it now. A rebuilding process, which is what Gainey started when he got to MTL can take years and tones of patience which is a virtue that is severly lacking with some people here.

    And for everyone blaming Carbo and Gainey for this slide, think back through the last 5 years or so. Even before Gainey and Carbo took over this team would start of smokin hot out of the gate then go into a nosedive before just pulling out in time, or not on occasion, to make the playoffs. This has become a culture in the dressing room with some of the veterans(i.e. Rivet, or as I like to call him ‘Habs fans knew Brisbois’, Kovalev, Souray, Ryder, and some of the guys who have left).

    If your looking for revamping and major changes, then stop paying attention to hockey and the Habs till the draft in late June and then July 1st and maybe a few days between Febuary 24-27 for the trade deadline.

    Till then, don’t think that Gainey is going to come onto habsblog.com and go ‘Oh my god, these guys don’t think I’m doing a good job. I mean, I live to make joshtm happy so I better find out his personal imformation, call him up and hand over my job to him.’

  33. #33 I am Canadien says:
    January 15, 2007 at 11:02 pm

    Your bang on with Gainey. He did try a few things in getting some Russians in place to bring skill to the team. It’s not working; and he knows it too. So we’ll just have to sit back and watch in disbelief how the Habs will keep taking it on the chin. Like really; did you see their break out plays tonight!? Awful! Like watching a Quarterback throwing the long bomb more than 1/2 the time. Not gunna work!
    I any case; our younger players are looking good so we need to “Pactum Serva” and just have a brewskie to get thru the games.

  34. #34 Habs#1 says:
    January 15, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    There is at least a bit of good news to come out of tonight:

    On RDS, Pedneault says Andrei Markov missed morning skate because he was straightening out papers at the Russian consulate in Detroit and at Canadian Immigration in Windsor.

    Pedneault says Markov is thinking about taking out Canadian citizenship.

    Good news for free agency, right?

  35. Excellent news.

  36. all I can say the habs are weak at every position

  37. #37 high 4 habs says:
    January 15, 2007 at 11:23 pm

    I know this team will not get better overnight, but hr have to be COMPETITIVE every game, and we aren’t. Tonight was a perfect example. Detroit just rolled over us. They were in complete control. I notice our D keeps backing up toward our goalie, therefore giving the opposition too much room to make plays and to shoot. That is why we’re being outshot every single game! Tonight Detroit had 39 shots! You just can’t give good teams that many shots, and you can’t afford to let in soft goals. In close games it will kill you, as it did tonight.
    From the beginning of the season, we knew we had deficiencies,but we managed to cover them up, and won despite certain weaknesses. But as the season rolls on,other teams begin to notice these weaknesses, and start to exploit them. How long did we expect to contend without a true 2nd line center?
    I was listening to RDS after the game,(although my french is almost nonexistent), but managed to get the jest of what they were saying. They said, in a nutshell:” when you have good players,which are experienced, you need your best to stand up, and BE YOUR BEST PLAYERS on the ice”. This is not happening. Where was Koivu, Higgins, Ryder, Kovalev, Souray? they were not a factor in the game tonight. We need these players to stand out, and to perform at their best. We can’t expect rookies such as Latendresse, Lapierre, Perehzogin, to outplay our best players. It is up to our most talented and experienced players to set an example for the young players. And if these so called vets don’t perform every game, then we won’t win.
    there is no sense of urgency on this team, and there is no heart;
    One of the reasons we lost, was because we weren’t willing to go to the net, and screen , and do whatever necessary to win. Other teams shoot from anywhere on the ice, but not us! If you don’t shoot, you can’t win. stop waiting for the perfect pass or perfect play. I also noticed our passing wasn’t sharp.
    We let Detroit come out of their end too easily, lack of checking on our part.
    After our horrendous loss on Saturday, I expected the habs to come out flying,with fire in their eyes. IT WASN’T THERE! THE HUNGER WASN’T THERE. that’s why this team will go nowhere!
    I would rather have a team not make the playoffs, and get a high draft pick, than a team only giving 50%, and being ousted 1st round of the playoffs.
    I’ve said my peace. I wonder if you guys agree with me, RDS , and TSN?

  38. just awful…this is the jekyl in jekyl & hyde syndrome. What can we say but that it’s so disappointing. the wheels have fallen off the wagon and no repair in sight. Y’know a shutout was really the only other way to lose or was Brodeur’s win a shutout too! Well, it’s so comforting to watch these bums..that’s the guys that are supposed to lead just go along for the ride. Basically, freeloaders.

    You have to pay the price and go beyond. It’s not easy but that’s what distinguishes a good team. Even in losses you need to put in the effort. It’s back to the basics time.

    As far as making comparisons…let’s see a player making 4-5mil should consider taking a pay cut and giving some of that money to the fans may be have a random draw for lucky fans each earning $10000 each. Maybe seeing some of that money go elsewhere would inspire himéthem. A player of that caliber is Thorton, Lecavalier, Kovalchuk, St.Louis, Selanne, Jagr, Heatley, Iginla, Shanahan…guys you can count on to score and add punch to the line-up every night. Who on the Habs is that player…Kovalev, Samsonov, Ryder, Koivu (hearts there for the most part)…even when the going was good…the void was still there. It was obvious as every night someone contributed to make the difference. Souray was a big factor no doubt and Koivu too. Need to shake up the mix as their not pulling the same way….my 2 cents…

    These results…getting clobbered by Ottawa and the shutout by the Wings couldn’t be too much of a surprise. That’s why losing to the weaker sisters pointed directly to the gaps and to this eventual slide. Reality has struck home…and now guess what, the value for this sad sack is next to worthless….mmm I wonder what the next step is (somewhere someone should be saying I told you so)…for some brewskis for other anti-acids, others swearing and throwing stuff at the tv….I’m still wearing the habs jersey but definitely there’s a lot of room for improvement. Now, this is what makes the die-hard fan so miserable and the rest that can live with a just making the playoffs team so different, yeah we’re all Habs fans but there’s the unacceptable parts that aren’t shared and make you similar to other team’s fans.

    I can’t stomach these results and showing lack-lustre effort spurns my frustration….a paycut should be demanded for these kinds of performances. Losing with effort is acceptable…afterall can we win them all. Oh well, there’s the Canucks next….let’s see which of the jeckyl & hyde comes out. Go Habs Go!

  39. #39 stevejur says:
    January 15, 2007 at 11:58 pm

    Don’t worry about that Hockey Town in Canada Poll.
    They didn’t mention that half the poll was not recieved in Quebec on RDS.
    It’s easy to vote for Toronto when Quebec can’t vote.
    They set us up. I can’t believe it.
    Habs fans out side of Quebec are the only ones who voted.
    29% is amazing, just imagine if Quebec voted.
    TSN are a bunch of liars!

    As for tonights game the decline to rock bottom continues.
    I don’t think this will stop, this mess is worse than we thought.

    We don’t have a pure goalscorer and our 5-5 sucks.
    I don’t know if we can hold on to that final 8th seed long enough.

  40. What a mess very big mess

  41. I think kovalev should be put back on the first line with koivu & teamup higgins latendresse plekanec on the same line and get rid of abischer. Every time abi play’s we loose.

  42. So let me get this right,If u voice your displeasure , or give your thoughts on how to improve the Habs on this blog site,your a leaf fan or deserve to get slandered about your mental wellbeing,or your a crackhead asshole and should fuck off and never come back to Habs Blog and leave a comment.This on a blog site,A BLOG SITE THAT ASKS YOU TO LEAVE A COMMENT!!!HUM,ONLY A LEAF FAN COULD COME UP WITH A BULLSHIT RULE LIKE THAT.

  43. Xhabsfan
    get a life

  44. #44 joshtm says:
    January 16, 2007 at 12:43 am

    Aw comrade xhabsfan, yes, this evening’s sports pravda, the glorious habs managed to keep the imperialist pigs wings to one goal, yes, comrade xhabsfan has spoken well like the capitalist leafs fans, the habs dynasty is over, and the habs will end up in 8th place, spoken like a true capitalist leafs fan, we must give comrade xhabsfan a dacha by Hamilton, so he can enjoy the losing dynasty of the leafs…spoken like a true nationalist, a true blue canuck, a real leaf…..

    As if. Only leafs fans would be content with this dynasty talk, only leafs fans talk of bownman as if he is dead and gone and lived a hundred years ago…actually the habs have actually won a cup not too long ago and they can do it again.

    Lets get real here. The habs have broken out of their losing slump everytime they bring up their rookies. As soon as the old veterans are left to their devices, Murray, Johnson, Downie, and the lazy defense and the spin-em roulette wheels russians….and don’t forget the other roulette spinner the greatest gambler on the habs, carbo, what’ll it be this time carbo, we’ll have the scouts look for some more broken down players with histories of concussions, groin injuries, and ask Gainey to sign them to 2 million dollar contracts? In the hopes that they can fit on your pick of the week lines?

    So when is Biron gonna come up and show he doesn’t have what it takes to play in the NHL? Another great Gainey pick? Another big goon with the heart of a butterfly? Flutter like a butterfly get stung like a bee? That’s Biron.

    HAHAAHAA…..Gainey bring up your rookies cause your million dollar pros are just not producing. Isn’t that pathetic? And we call ourselves Habs fans?

    No we have become used to arguing with each other coming up with theories as to why your great picks don’t win…lets see last week it was the stomach flu, the weeks before it was bad line juggling by Carbo, and the week before that was what, oh the team is getting over an ankle injury, or we gotta wait for Sheldon’s wrist to heal, or Ryder has a groin injury, or hey Kirk and Dougie the A-coaches each have split ends and when they find the right shampoo, or Muller has a corn on his toe….man talk about a zillion excuses. It makes you wonder if Bob can find anyone who doesn’t have some life threatening injury and can he sign them up for a zillion bucks?

  45. #45 high 4 habs says:
    January 16, 2007 at 1:18 am

    I think we also need to look at this organization to see which direction they are headed. I think the glory days will never be seen by the habs again. furthermore, if ever we win a cup, it will be isolated, and probably luck. Some of you may call me a pessimist, but I think instead, that I am a realist.
    here’s why. We aren’t able to attract big name players to our city. They just don’t want to play here. the reasons are ,high taxes, suffocating media, fierce pressure from fans, and the language issue. The irony here is, they have no qualms about playing in Toronto. They love it there, even tho the taxes are high there, too. But having said that, the only way to build a strong ,competitive, and stanley cup winning team, is thru the draft, and trades. We will NEVER be able to sign star UFA’s, so just forget it! So we better hope that Bob Gainey becomes “the great white hope”, becomes there’s no other course to the cup. But Gainey can only work with what he has. you can’t turn hamburgers into steaks or beer into champagne. so, it will be a long and ardous process. We will never be like Detroit, consistent, and appealing to players. So fans, get used to this mediocrity. It’s not going to change, at least for a while.We need to clean house, and get rid of the garbage! it’s time to disinfect!

  46. I hate to say this,VAN4 MON1, just a hunch.

  47. #47 joshtm says:
    January 16, 2007 at 2:04 am

    What Montreal needs a saucier, what you are happy with and what you have is Bob Gainey’s Chip Stand, never mind hamburger, what Bob has bought at Hokaido Steak prices are nothing but salmonella ridden chicken strips and dried up hot dogs….and yes warm american beer instead of champagne.

    You can’t take the Chip Stand outa Bob, but he sure knows how to get ripped off at champagne prices for what? Stale American beer, dried up russian hot dogs….

    hahahaa….I guess since you are not exactly an exquisite diner, why should we eat from your menu?

    We can have the best, we can eat Aut Couture, we don’t need to eat at some broken down chip stand….we can eat fine Hokaido steaks, sip on fine champagne, heck we can even eat cake. Who are you to tell us what we should eat or not eat?

    Honestly, if you hire some Big Mac chef as your coach, and some chip stand hasbeen as your GM, why complain if all they serve you is broken down fast food that only tastes good when it plays against white trash who think Big Macs are fine cuisine? hence the habs beating the lesser teams…but as you say, why ask why some Yankee would hire some chip stand owner as a GM and some Big Man Chef as coach…maybe that is all he knows this Gillette, fast american food, at horribly high prices……no wonder we are all dying of heart attack eh?

  48. Would be nice if lets say,Bombardier made a deal that Gillette could not refuse.

  49. all that’s wrong with the Habs are the line ups. Higgins…Koivu…Kovalev
    Latendresse…Plekanec…Ryder………Samsonov…Lapierre…Johnson……….Perezhogin…Bonk…Murray
    with these lines they will compete, how much better they will be, don’t know at least they will be worth watching….listen to the fans Carbo and try it

  50. #50 smiler2729 says:
    January 16, 2007 at 10:18 am

    Same old story… the Russians and the soft Euros (Saku excluded, naturally) don’t put in any effort, expecting their ‘talent’ to do it all for them magically. Oh please Bob, bring in some good ol’ North American grit, more Higgins/Koivus, less Samsonov/Kovalevs… I don’t care who they are as long as they work, Kyle Chipchura or Shane Doan, whatever… maybe Guy Carbonneau and Kirk Muller could suit up.

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