The Final Four
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(4) Ottawa at Buffalo (1)
(2) Anaheim at Detroit (1)
Not many surprises so far this year. 3 out of the 4 top overall seeds advancing to the Conference finals.
Ottawa finally playing to their potential make them a scary team heading to Buffalo. It could finally be their year and that series could easily go 7 games.
Predictions?
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- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - Sure, the only player I'd say who is untradeable (meaning I wouldn't trade no matter what) is Carey Price. You build a winning team from the net out, and I don't think there's a better goalie for his age in the NHL than Price, so I wouldn't trade him. Otherwise, every player would be open for offers, but for PK Subban, it would take (for me) an already established star, like Carter or Crosby or Ovechkin. As much as I like Ovechkin, I'm not sure he could handle all the media pre
- goalie : I'm not suggesting at all that we judst dump or get rid of PK. I do however believe that he is a very valued commodity in the NHL adn that the Habs will receive offers for his services. If someone ffers us young, strong, puck handling forwards who can score, I think the Habs have to look at that possible trade.
- Avatar37 : Agreed. It would be a big mistake to trade PK just to move up 2 spots in the draft. PK, Emelin, and Gorges are the bright future of our defense.
- Senet1 : I am with you Avatar, Subban stays, it is not often that you get a stud defenceman who can play 25+ minutes. The mistakes he makes are for the most part not that serious and people forget he is only 23 and been in the league 2 years. He has come a long way in those two years. He has offense, defence and he hits. You cannot bet much better than that. Two more years experience and he has a shot at the Norris. If Markov does anything I hope he teaches PK how to work the PP.
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- Avatar37 : round exit. Heck, even the year they won the cup we almost took them out in round 1. I believe in the corps of this team, I really think we just need a few tweaks. Adding Larry Robinson to run the defense would be a BIG help, keep Cunneyworth as offensive coach, and get a head coach who can get these guys back on the right path. We need to establish an identity again, a team that won't let itself be pushed around like it was under Martin. A few scrappers on this team and we'll be good to
- Avatar37 : Yeah, the only way I'd trade PK is if we were getting an established star in return, like Carter or Crosby. I don't think we're miles away from competing deep into the playoffs, the NHL has become so competitive because of the salary cap that really there aren't huge differences between the teams. Add into the equation the stupid scoring system (some games worth 2 points, some 3) that the standings don't truly reflect where teams should really be. Look at Boston, cup winners to first rou
- Senet1 : It would have to be something pretty special before I would trade PK. To me he is the #1 building block of our defence. I would trade any other defenceman we have before I would trade PK.
- Senet1 : An improvement in our offense and strengthening our defence. Personally, I do not think we are that far off, five players at best could get us there. One thing that has always been true about the playoffs, Defence wins and you need a strong 3rd and 4th line.
- goalie : I'm more optimistic now about the Habs than I have been for the past three dreadfully long seasons!
- goalie : 2: I think GM Bergevin will make somewhat of a 'blockbuster't rade either before or on the day of the draft adn I believe PK Subban will be in that package. WE have t rememebr we have to give away some talent to get back other talent. No one wants players like Moen to move up in the draft etc.
- goalie : Some thoughts:The more I see the playoffs it becomes even more obvious that we're miles away from being able to 'compete' dep into the playoffs
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- Senet1 : Young Subban might also be an option if the Russian goalie is not available. However, to me I would wait another year and attempt to use my draft 2nd round draft picks to improve out forward situation.
- Senet1 : Although Rinne contact is another example of long term at the wrong time. He is 29 years old. A case could be made with Price that double his money now with bonuses if we win the cup, I think that is still allowed in contracts?
- Senet1 : Problem is he is going to want Pekka Rinne money and term. That is closer to 7M. On the other hand, the contract could have step up clauses in it over the 7 years.
- Avatar37 : With Price, I wouldn't blink twice about offering him a 7 year contract now, especially if he'd be willing to give up dollar value for length. 7 years at $5.5 million a year would be just fine in my book.
- Avatar37 : I think the goaltending void in our current system would push me to draft Vasilevski with our second pick, if he was available. He's young and has lots of potential, but is at least 5-6 years away from starting to be ready to play on an NHL roster.
- Senet1 : Long tern contracts are a risk, but if you have a super star not as much. Luongo's contract was long term but signed too late in his career.
- Avatar37 : Senet - Yes, you were clear in your post, my question was directed at goalie. I'm with you in that I'd be willing to sign him to a 7 year contract. I'd be nervous about anything longer, because every single long term goalie contract I can think of turned out to be a disaster for the team signing it.
- Senet1 : I think that Budaj is a better goalie than many give him credit for, is he a Price no but with a tight defence he could be a good goalie. Many teams have average goalies but have great defence and still win. Look at Detroit, for years they have had average goaltending, but won cups. Goalies can get on a roll in the playoffs, look at Huet as an example, he was not really a good goalie but played great in the playoffs, next year he was a wash. Defence makes the goalie a winner, just ask Price.
- Senet1 : Having a young equivalent goalie in the system right now is not important, three years from now it will be, so we have three years to make that kind of move in the draft. I think we have more pressing needs aat the moment.
- Senet1 : Personally, I do not see this as a negative because of Price's age, you wait to draft a goalie of a Patrick Roy or Brodeur some teams wait a life time. To me we have on so why would we want to not play that out for as long as we can. Bottom line is this, regardless, right now you have a stud goalie, you are either going to pay him the money he deserves for not sign him and lose him. There is no middle of the road here.
- goalie : Avatar made a great point. We don't have an NHL or up adn coming NHL goalies in our system. Another great move by Gauthier. Price is sitting very pretty.
- goalie : WEll Price has us by the nads. I guess I'd have to go as far as a 7 year contract due to his play adn his age.
- Senet1 : Luongo is now 33, he has been a good goaltender for a number of years. I would sign Price for 7 years and at age 31 then we deal with UFA at that time. Hopefully, we could provide him with another 5 years at that time. That is my opinion anyway, I would never risk losing him as a UFA at this point in his career to me that would be a very poor management decision. Even a 10 year contract would put him only at 34 years old. If you are going to sign him to long term now is the time.
- Senet1 : If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him a contract that is worthy of his abilities and his potential. It can have escalation clauses or reducing clauses like Kovalchuk's contract.
- Senet1 : Avatar, I thought I was clear Yes I would sign him long term. My previous post said. The problem is if you have a out in the contract after 5 years then the player also has an out after 5 years. So no self respected lawyer would accept a contract that did not have equal escape clauses. So no I would not sign only for 5 years, if Price was 28 years old yes but not a 24. Seven years still only makes him 31 when the contract is over. If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him
- Avatar37 : Cammalleri trade. Given the fact that we have no NHL starting quality goaltenders in the system currently, aren't we held hostage to having to sign Price?
- Avatar37 : There are many bad goalie contracts, just look at Huet. However, your post didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with Price. He's an RFA now, but for argument sake, if he were a UFA, what would you do? If he wanted a 7+ year contract, you know some other team would give him one. Would you risk losing him for nothing because you didn't want to sign a contract over 5 years? And if we lose Price, our goalies are Budaj and Robert Mayer, as we sent Karri Ramo to the Flames in the Cam
- goalie : .. a 5 years contract again based upon the experience he has had AND he likes Bobby Lou!
- goalie : Ditto for Philly, Ther goaltender 'situations' have both become the number 1 story line for both teams, and in Vancouver one could see the exaspiration on Gillis' adn to some extent Vigneault's faces when continously being bombarded by the loooong term contract that the Canucks are stuct with. (Gillis even said last February or so, thank goodness it looks like more than few other teams will be looking for a starting goaltender for 2012-13. He said he would never again do more than a 5 year c
- goalie : I've spent the past four winters in BC thus I am very aware of the Canucks situations. I'd first say I give Gillis adn Vigneault 100% credit for being VERY supportive of Roberto L. even when Corey Schenider has vastly out played him. (I too like Bobby Lou but facts are facts).
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May 8, 2007 at 12:01 pm
I got 10 good predictions on 12 for the first two rounds! My only 2 wrong predictions was Pittsburgh over Ottawa and San Jose over Detroit.
I’ll say Buffalo in 7 and Anaheim in 5
May 8, 2007 at 5:16 pm
Buffalo in 6
May 8, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Buffalo in 7 and Anaheim in 6
May 8, 2007 at 10:08 pm
ducks in 5
May 8, 2007 at 10:31 pm
Ducks will win it all I think. How bout you PS?
May 9, 2007 at 10:55 am
I am cheering for buffalo because i cant stand the sens for many reasons but yes the ducks do look like the team to beat.Anyways off topic here but i dont think gainey is going to keep the 2 draft picks this year.I feel he will flip them both in some kind of trade on draft day.You can bet your *** that the next trade gainey makes will be a multi-player swap.I think that player we have all been waiting for is comming in the next couple of months.
May 9, 2007 at 12:15 pm
Ottawa has looked better than any other team in these playoffs. Seriously. How fitting it would be for the nation’s capitol to bring the cup back to Canada.
May 9, 2007 at 12:39 pm
Ottawa – Ducks final, however the over the hill gang in Detroit should not be taken lightly.
May 10, 2007 at 7:52 am
I think you are right Pactum I also believe at least 1 or possibly both first round picks this year could be dealt in a blockbuster multiplayer deal (at least I hope so). This year’s draft is weak anyhow. GO HABS GO
May 11, 2007 at 6:53 pm
I think that the ‘hate on’ some people have for Ottawa is affecting their vision. Ottawa in 6. They’re a damned good team, better than Buffalo right now.
May 13, 2007 at 11:52 am
Ottawa will win the Stanley Cup. I don’t hate Ottawa but if they win it this year I will hate them next year…….. but i don’t need toronto to win in order for me to hate them. The only leaf player I have ever liked was Daryll Sittler. Ottawa in 5. Anaheim in 7. Ottawa in 6 in the final. You money is safe if you bet on Ottawa……. Correct me if i am wrong but I don’t believe that the leafs have even made the finals since 1967 and have only made the semi finals 2 or three times. Talk about futility. I think it is time for the leafs to move to another city. Perhaps Charlottetown or some other worthy place. They need new uniforms (ugly ugly uniforms), new name, new management, new players, new logo……
May 13, 2007 at 7:03 pm
Hey Frank, I also very much dislike the Leafs. I guess you could say I hates them. I guess the only player I like (or would have liked I guess) is Tim Horton cause I love the coffee there LOL.
Anyways you are correct the Laughs haven’t been to the Cup finals since 1967 and since that year they have only made it to the 3rd round (or Conference Finals if you will) 5 times. They lost every time.
1978 – Lost to the Habs (who won the Cup of course)
1993 – Lost to the Kings (we all know what happens to the Kings next)
1994 – Lost to the Canucks
1999 – Lost to the Sabres
2002 – Lost to the Hurricanes
I am a statistic junkie. Bottom line Leafs blow goats. GO HABS GO
May 15, 2007 at 5:31 pm
I think Detroit still has the balls to win the Stanley Cup.
May 17, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Detroit has been underrated all season. Meanwhile, they are in charge of the WCF and have the opportunity to put the choke hold on the Prongerless Ducks tonight. I won’t be surprised if they do, and if they do, then I think it’ll be safe to say that they’ll take the series.
May 17, 2007 at 3:23 pm
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/mtl070517.html
May 19, 2007 at 7:16 am
http://www.hamiltonbulldogs.com/index.php?module=newser&func=display&nid=575
May 20, 2007 at 10:50 am
Ottawa in 5…… Boy am I good…………… Anahiem in 7…. I’ll say it now……. boy am I good