The Gainey Foundation
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MONTREAL (May 2, 2007) – Mr. Bob Gainey, Executive Vice President and General Manager of the Montreal Canadiens, and his children Anna, Stephen and Colleen, announced the creation of the Gainey Foundation at a press conference this afternoon at the Bell Centre.
Established in honor of Cathy and Laura Gainey, the Gainey Foundation will support community-based charitable organizations, especially those committed to causes that reflect Laura and Cathy’s interests in education, arts and the environment.More information: http://www.gaineyfoundation.com/
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- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - Sure, the only player I'd say who is untradeable (meaning I wouldn't trade no matter what) is Carey Price. You build a winning team from the net out, and I don't think there's a better goalie for his age in the NHL than Price, so I wouldn't trade him. Otherwise, every player would be open for offers, but for PK Subban, it would take (for me) an already established star, like Carter or Crosby or Ovechkin. As much as I like Ovechkin, I'm not sure he could handle all the media pre
- goalie : I'm not suggesting at all that we judst dump or get rid of PK. I do however believe that he is a very valued commodity in the NHL adn that the Habs will receive offers for his services. If someone ffers us young, strong, puck handling forwards who can score, I think the Habs have to look at that possible trade.
- Avatar37 : Agreed. It would be a big mistake to trade PK just to move up 2 spots in the draft. PK, Emelin, and Gorges are the bright future of our defense.
- Senet1 : I am with you Avatar, Subban stays, it is not often that you get a stud defenceman who can play 25+ minutes. The mistakes he makes are for the most part not that serious and people forget he is only 23 and been in the league 2 years. He has come a long way in those two years. He has offense, defence and he hits. You cannot bet much better than that. Two more years experience and he has a shot at the Norris. If Markov does anything I hope he teaches PK how to work the PP.
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- Avatar37 : round exit. Heck, even the year they won the cup we almost took them out in round 1. I believe in the corps of this team, I really think we just need a few tweaks. Adding Larry Robinson to run the defense would be a BIG help, keep Cunneyworth as offensive coach, and get a head coach who can get these guys back on the right path. We need to establish an identity again, a team that won't let itself be pushed around like it was under Martin. A few scrappers on this team and we'll be good to
- Avatar37 : Yeah, the only way I'd trade PK is if we were getting an established star in return, like Carter or Crosby. I don't think we're miles away from competing deep into the playoffs, the NHL has become so competitive because of the salary cap that really there aren't huge differences between the teams. Add into the equation the stupid scoring system (some games worth 2 points, some 3) that the standings don't truly reflect where teams should really be. Look at Boston, cup winners to first rou
- Senet1 : It would have to be something pretty special before I would trade PK. To me he is the #1 building block of our defence. I would trade any other defenceman we have before I would trade PK.
- Senet1 : An improvement in our offense and strengthening our defence. Personally, I do not think we are that far off, five players at best could get us there. One thing that has always been true about the playoffs, Defence wins and you need a strong 3rd and 4th line.
- goalie : I'm more optimistic now about the Habs than I have been for the past three dreadfully long seasons!
- goalie : 2: I think GM Bergevin will make somewhat of a 'blockbuster't rade either before or on the day of the draft adn I believe PK Subban will be in that package. WE have t rememebr we have to give away some talent to get back other talent. No one wants players like Moen to move up in the draft etc.
- goalie : Some thoughts:The more I see the playoffs it becomes even more obvious that we're miles away from being able to 'compete' dep into the playoffs
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- Senet1 : Young Subban might also be an option if the Russian goalie is not available. However, to me I would wait another year and attempt to use my draft 2nd round draft picks to improve out forward situation.
- Senet1 : Although Rinne contact is another example of long term at the wrong time. He is 29 years old. A case could be made with Price that double his money now with bonuses if we win the cup, I think that is still allowed in contracts?
- Senet1 : Problem is he is going to want Pekka Rinne money and term. That is closer to 7M. On the other hand, the contract could have step up clauses in it over the 7 years.
- Avatar37 : With Price, I wouldn't blink twice about offering him a 7 year contract now, especially if he'd be willing to give up dollar value for length. 7 years at $5.5 million a year would be just fine in my book.
- Avatar37 : I think the goaltending void in our current system would push me to draft Vasilevski with our second pick, if he was available. He's young and has lots of potential, but is at least 5-6 years away from starting to be ready to play on an NHL roster.
- Senet1 : Long tern contracts are a risk, but if you have a super star not as much. Luongo's contract was long term but signed too late in his career.
- Avatar37 : Senet - Yes, you were clear in your post, my question was directed at goalie. I'm with you in that I'd be willing to sign him to a 7 year contract. I'd be nervous about anything longer, because every single long term goalie contract I can think of turned out to be a disaster for the team signing it.
- Senet1 : I think that Budaj is a better goalie than many give him credit for, is he a Price no but with a tight defence he could be a good goalie. Many teams have average goalies but have great defence and still win. Look at Detroit, for years they have had average goaltending, but won cups. Goalies can get on a roll in the playoffs, look at Huet as an example, he was not really a good goalie but played great in the playoffs, next year he was a wash. Defence makes the goalie a winner, just ask Price.
- Senet1 : Having a young equivalent goalie in the system right now is not important, three years from now it will be, so we have three years to make that kind of move in the draft. I think we have more pressing needs aat the moment.
- Senet1 : Personally, I do not see this as a negative because of Price's age, you wait to draft a goalie of a Patrick Roy or Brodeur some teams wait a life time. To me we have on so why would we want to not play that out for as long as we can. Bottom line is this, regardless, right now you have a stud goalie, you are either going to pay him the money he deserves for not sign him and lose him. There is no middle of the road here.
- goalie : Avatar made a great point. We don't have an NHL or up adn coming NHL goalies in our system. Another great move by Gauthier. Price is sitting very pretty.
- goalie : WEll Price has us by the nads. I guess I'd have to go as far as a 7 year contract due to his play adn his age.
- Senet1 : Luongo is now 33, he has been a good goaltender for a number of years. I would sign Price for 7 years and at age 31 then we deal with UFA at that time. Hopefully, we could provide him with another 5 years at that time. That is my opinion anyway, I would never risk losing him as a UFA at this point in his career to me that would be a very poor management decision. Even a 10 year contract would put him only at 34 years old. If you are going to sign him to long term now is the time.
- Senet1 : If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him a contract that is worthy of his abilities and his potential. It can have escalation clauses or reducing clauses like Kovalchuk's contract.
- Senet1 : Avatar, I thought I was clear Yes I would sign him long term. My previous post said. The problem is if you have a out in the contract after 5 years then the player also has an out after 5 years. So no self respected lawyer would accept a contract that did not have equal escape clauses. So no I would not sign only for 5 years, if Price was 28 years old yes but not a 24. Seven years still only makes him 31 when the contract is over. If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him
- Avatar37 : Cammalleri trade. Given the fact that we have no NHL starting quality goaltenders in the system currently, aren't we held hostage to having to sign Price?
- Avatar37 : There are many bad goalie contracts, just look at Huet. However, your post didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with Price. He's an RFA now, but for argument sake, if he were a UFA, what would you do? If he wanted a 7+ year contract, you know some other team would give him one. Would you risk losing him for nothing because you didn't want to sign a contract over 5 years? And if we lose Price, our goalies are Budaj and Robert Mayer, as we sent Karri Ramo to the Flames in the Cam
- goalie : .. a 5 years contract again based upon the experience he has had AND he likes Bobby Lou!
- goalie : Ditto for Philly, Ther goaltender 'situations' have both become the number 1 story line for both teams, and in Vancouver one could see the exaspiration on Gillis' adn to some extent Vigneault's faces when continously being bombarded by the loooong term contract that the Canucks are stuct with. (Gillis even said last February or so, thank goodness it looks like more than few other teams will be looking for a starting goaltender for 2012-13. He said he would never again do more than a 5 year c
- goalie : I've spent the past four winters in BC thus I am very aware of the Canucks situations. I'd first say I give Gillis adn Vigneault 100% credit for being VERY supportive of Roberto L. even when Corey Schenider has vastly out played him. (I too like Bobby Lou but facts are facts).
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May 2, 2007 at 10:09 pm
Say what you want about bob, this guy will always be a classy man in my books.
May 3, 2007 at 12:54 am
One of the classiest gentlemen in all of professional sports.
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May 3, 2007 at 6:26 am
Thinking of forming my own charity. The Nigelski Memorial Fund. 50% of all revenue will go towards getting cancers like Kovalev traded, via secret payoffs to other team owners, so they’ll take him and any future disturbances off our hands. The other 50% will go for administration costs, and to provide me with a better lifestyle. One befitting the behind the scenes man who’ll make it all happen. Free boat tethers to the first 100 donators.
Those interested in donating should have their heads examined.
Still want to help? Call 1-800-782-5377.
May 3, 2007 at 8:18 am
Nigelski.
Smarten up……….
This is intended to be a serious topic here.
Why don’t you show a little class…………..
May 3, 2007 at 10:13 am
I am serious. The last thing I’d want to do is hurt anyones feelings. My point is, there are tonnes of charities already dealing with any number of worthy causes. I could create my own charity for drug abusers or suicidal thinkers. Why? My brother died of a heroin OD, and my dad killed himself. I don’t have the Gainey fame to back me, so it would likely fall on deaf ears.
Why didn’t I make such a charity, regardless? Because there are already thousands of Foundations that deal with these things. Worthy and trusted organizations where my donations would get to those in need of the money. When we start forming charities that have no real focus, the money gets diverted and loses its umph. I also have no need to aggrandize my own name in such a manner.
Sheena’s Place here in Toronto was named after Sheena, a woman who died from an eating disorder All proceeds fund a house where women with these issues can go to get help. Places such as these are the backbone of the kind of necessary work to be done in our society.
A charity for art, education and the environment doesn’t exactly inspire me. Such vague and elusive goal oriented charities only serve to take the cash away from more altruistic and far more necessary foundations. Like the Heart and Stroke Foundation as one example.
I’d have been far more impressed with a public donation to the Cancer Society(in the memory of his deceased wife), coupled with an effort to increase public awareness about boating safety. Through government advertisements, lectures, or such.
All too often, million dollar current and former athletes form charities in their own name, and ask their fans to support their causes. The irony is, they have the money to effect real change more than any thousand of us.
Additionally, special interest groups get their hands on a staggering amount of charity funds. Especially in the fields this charity has been designed to support. There is no knowing if that will be the case, but as I said, there are plenty of established charities that accomplish the same goals as set out by the Gainey foundation; and they have proven track records of success.
It’s self serving, in my mind. If that’s classless, than I guess I am.
May 3, 2007 at 12:14 pm
Yo nigelski,don’t fret man,we live in a self-serving society ,every-one is guilty of it and that’s why other people’s from other countries try and catch us and use us for the video decapitation of the day,lol. And I dare say it is self serving of anyone who disagrees with another’s viewpoint or humor on a Blog site,something short ,power hungry ,control freaks tend to try and do,screw them ,they need to grow up and get real and relax ,heck we’re heading into another beautiful Canadian summer !” even though our useless hockey team sucks and missed the play-offs and got beat by the Maple leafs on the last game of the year for a play off shot, which we would of crashed and burned in, lol”Oh, by the way, my old man did the same,but in front of my brother and sister,which caused lots of future problems for my family as well,so message to suicide seekers,who are you trying to hurt?Re -visit your thoughts and seek help,if not for yourself do it for others !!!
May 5, 2007 at 12:15 am
Well,well,well…..another team of big pro hockey players destroys the smaller team”CanuckleHeads” ,suprize,suprize,suprize !!!So sorry if I offend any one by saying this,but I have too cause I loves my Hockey team”Habs”;if any Habs fan hasn’t figured out by now a small player or even worse a group of small hockey players ,in most cases ,has no business in the N.H.L.,THEN DO ME A FAVOR AND STAND ON SOME TRAIN TRACKS UNTILL YOU ARE NO MORE, STUPID !!!
May 6, 2007 at 9:34 pm
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/mtl070503.html
May 8, 2007 at 6:42 am
As early as October I predicted in my head, and quite possibly also in this blog, that the finals this year would be Anaheim vs Buffalo. It looks like it might happen. What are your thoughts about this?
I predict:
1.Anaheim
2.Buffalo
3.Detroit
4.Ottawa
May 8, 2007 at 7:13 am
eah cuz, the sabres are really struggling with they’re small players, canucks lost because you can only ride a great goaltender so far. THeyre team isn’t all that good, Luongo is the ONLY reason they even made the playoffs.
May 8, 2007 at 9:44 am
habs4ever,lets just see how the small sabers do against theBIG AND TOUGH SENS, OTTAWA in 6 and buffalo in hospital.If you like small guys in sports you can watch other sports like : Golf, Curling,Baseball,Bowling and midget wrestling !!!LOL.
May 8, 2007 at 6:09 pm
Shows really how uneducated you are..
February 2, 2008 at 7:55 pm
dear Nigelski.
first of all im sorry to hear about your father & brother, however you have to understand that most charities are a business, ie: WWF, cwf, unicef etc…
i’m not rich however i have donated to several charities in my life with regret & some without. at least with the GAINEY FOUNDATION you can trust that Mr. Bob Gainey & family A: dont need the money, B: would never screw you for a dollar, C: you can put a name on the charity (who you can give hell too, if they do).
Bottom line is you need a famous name to start a chairty or you need alot of money to market it in wich case it’s usually a business that makes alot of money in the name of that charity.
sincerley: sam
GAINEY FOUNDATION donator
GO HABS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS: Mr. Gainey if this foundation is a scam, shame on your name.. but I know it cant be, because i still believe in good people & helping them.
PSS: All good father’s need to show support for GUY LAFLUER !! because if, I understand the news & situation I would protect my son too!!!
NO MATTER WHAT
(dont have a son, but I have a daughter 15 months old daughter)
February 2, 2008 at 8:02 pm
dear Mr. Gainey
we realy need a goon on the team!!
someone who cant realy score or defend, but can realy fight!!
thats my opinion.
PS. you and Guy C. (cant spell his last name/ the coach) have done an amazing job!!
sam