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Time to step up

  • So the Canadiens put forth another pathetic effort in Toronto on Saturday, losing to a injury riddled washup Leafs team.

    The once solidly positioned Canadiens who looked at one point to be maybe be able to challenge Buffalo, have faltered and been passed by Ottawa. Ottawa is peaking at the right time and the Canadiens are not.

    Tonight is another huge ‘4 point’ game. A loss to Otttawa tonight will widen that gap and might propel the Sens to a point the Habs can’t catch up to.

    The Canadiens are inconsistent. What is most troubling is when they lose they don’t contend. There is no effort, there is no losing in the last minute or battling and coming up just short. When the Canadiens go down a goal you know they are done for.

    If the Habs can’t string together wins consistently they are in danger or falling right out of the playoffs. A mere 11 points separate the Habs from 14th spot. Every team other than Philadelphia still has a realistic shot at a playoff spot.

    The Habs have 32 games remaining. If they can only win 16 of those that will give them 92 points and they’ll likely be in a tight battle for 7th-10th spot. A far cry from 4th which they held most of the year.

    When will the Canadiens ever have home ice advantage in the playoffs?

    Cristobal Huet looks tired. Playing a full season as a starting goalie might be taking it’s toll on him. If he isn’t at his peak the Canadiens and their mediocre offence and lackluster 5 on 5 play are going to have trouble winning their share of games.

    Is a blockbuster trade going to revitalize the team and send them surging into the playoffs? What happens over the next 10 games will give us a better idea if Bob Gainey will pull the trigger or not. If the right deal exists something could definitely happen. Considering all the baggage the Canadiens are carrying. In traditional Gainey style you won’t know what or who it is until it’s all said and done.

  1. After the way the Habs played on saturday night against the toronto Maple Duds they’ll be lucky if they do not need a heart transplant. But seriously, they still have 32 games left and I for one believe that their recent struggles are not indicative of their overall record, but they need to get their confidence back by keeping it simple, driving to the net and getting garbage goals, having the forwards coming back to help the D, NOT being so spread out in the neutral zone and, last but not least, shooting the puck from any and all angles. If you don’t shoot the puck you will not score. Oh, and put someone in front of the net for God’s sakes. At least make it hard on the opposition goalie to see the shot. The time for “stepping up” is LONG overdue. GO HABS GO!!!

  2. Wow, how predictable Saturday’s game was! But for all the wrong reasons. Took early penalties, teh PK failed miserably like always against teh Laffs. The worst part is our goalies are starting to let in alot of outside shots which needs to change.

    PLEKS HAS BEEN BY FAR OUR BEST PLAYER IN 2007. AND ALL WE HEAR ABOUT IS A 2nd LINE CENTER IS NEEDED. Where the f*ck in Koivu and HIggins. Lapierre is starting to make crucial errors and lack consistency. RIvet is RIvet and Markov is lacking energy at times.

  3. I would like a match between the Habs and the Bullbogs to get more perspective.The way the Habs are playing rite now,matches between the two clubs would go 50/50, with the Bulldogs showing way more effort. Habs mite do OK against Senaters tonite which I think would make things worse for them,slowing down trade efforts.

  4. This is for all you fans with some professional degree in being an NHL coach: Gainey got himself into this mess, no one else. Okay maybe the Pres and Gainey got themselves where they are.

    Don’t blame Lapress or the Gazette or CJAD for providing us fans with information, these pros know when they go into NHL hockey that it is a given.

    You don’t see sports commentators on the ice do you?

    And what is this “they don’t come cause of taxes”? NHL pros know when they get started that taxes are fact of life.

    What do you think we are stupid?

    The habs just are not producing. Why not? For one Carbo can’t seem to get the right line combinations. At this rate it’ll be the year 2010 before he figures it out.

    Gainey can’t seem to find the right talent and instead spends big money on broken down players. Its not the fans on Habslog that negotiate the contract, why blame us when we complain about Gainey’s picks?

  5. #5 PACTUM SERVA says:
    January 29, 2007 at 12:46 pm

    If i had a nickel for everytime you said “BROKEN DOWN PLAYERS”joshtm i would be a rich man.Do have any other input besides the same old garbage you keep on posting here?

  6. #6 PACTUM SERVA says:
    January 29, 2007 at 12:51 pm

    Who the hell are you to question bob gainey lol.You you could do a better job than you wouldnt be washing dishes at your local east side marios

  7. #7 PACTUM SERVA says:
    January 29, 2007 at 12:51 pm

    if you***

  8. #8 PACTUM SERVA says:
    January 29, 2007 at 12:57 pm

    Go over to the leaf board where you belong

  9. #9 Jack Tornton says:
    January 29, 2007 at 1:53 pm

    The only component missing to this team is superstar. We all have to admit we need a superstar if not a star. Honestly, Saku is good leader but he’s not near to be star player. Check his stats. He’s an average player, BUT HE’S A GOOD LEADER AND WE NEED HIM. What we need is a start player, and for all you who thnik Kovalev is start player, you guys make me laugh. Go and check his stats, the only season he really flashed was when he played along with Mario Lemieux and Straka. Anyone who played with Lemieux had a cae=reer high points.
    Same goes with Kovalev. It’s the time to acquire what we need: PAVEL DATSYUK.

    ——————————PAVEL DATSYUK————————————

    PAVEL dASTYUK IS THE ANSWER TO OUR SUCCESS. Anyways he will be a free agent by summer. Same story goes for the Red Wings concerning Dastyuk as Souray for the Habs. So why not trading Souray with a package of other players for Pavel Datsyuk. Once he likes this team, he won’t be able to leave.

    So what do we need to make Habs a successful team????????????????//

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~P-A-V-E-L D-A-T-S-Y-U-K~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  10. #10 doggone R habs says:
    January 29, 2007 at 1:54 pm

    The key to success in the NHL, ia a solid defence. That’s where it starts. In order to build a foundation, you must start from the bottom up. It’s true Souray and Rivet give the puck away often, but if you look at most NHL teams, aside from NJ,who has a great defence? For about 7 to 8 years we’ve been talking about not being able to score goals, and the saga continues. How is it that Detroit never seems to have that problem? It’s time for some soul searching to find the culprit of this overwhelming, never ending problem. It’s got to be internal, within this organization. I realize that Gainey is trying to correct the mistakes of his predecessors, but how long are we as fans, supposed to wait? an eternity? I just wish, for once, that Gainey should go for the gusto, and make that 4 player blockbuster deal. Stop being conservative,because what we have, is very mediocre and very plain. what exactly, is he afraid of losing? you can’t lose what you don’t have! So go for it man! watch your pennies, but PLEASE …………..give us some exciting and dynamic players, for a change! This team is so booooring! I usually snooze as we lose!

  11. #11 Jack Tornton says:
    January 29, 2007 at 1:55 pm


  12. #12 doggone R habs says:
    January 29, 2007 at 2:04 pm

    I think we’re on the same page, Jack. we want a talented high scoring player. we want some excitment, someone who will dazzle, and score that goal when we need it! I like Gainey, but boy he is boring and predictable. Last year I really thought Higgins , with all his energy, was going to sizzle this year, but he sure took a step backwards. I see no energy from him, or Ryder.
    And who else is there to score? Kovalev? please! Koivu, maybe with 20-25 goals, but that’s it! I do revere Pittsburgh and Ottawa, because they have so much offensive talent. Will we ever have that talent? I guess we have to finish in the basement for that to happen, or offer several players for that #1 draft pick. I doubt it’s happening anytime soon.
    So Gainey, will probably wait until the trading deadline, (when we’re almost out of it), and try to acquire someone else’s problem. that’s it folks!

  13. #13 doggone R habs says:
    January 29, 2007 at 2:25 pm

    I think everyone should read the article in today’s Montreal Gazette.
    From the coaches to Souray,to the fans, we need CHANGES! To put it in a nutshell, Carbo and Souray said that this team has NO PASSION and is NOT willing to pay the price to win!
    If we lose tonight,(and Aebischer is in nets), so it probably will happen, expect a trade in the very near future.
    And I suspect, because of the way Souray has criticized his teammates, that there will be some internal turmoil in the habs dressing room, among teammates, and Souray is but gone!

  14. #14 smiler2729 says:
    January 29, 2007 at 2:39 pm

    Hopefully Ken Dryden’s sweater retirement speech will go on and on… and on… and on, lulling the peppy dangerous Senators into a lazy fog. But then again, it may have the same effect on the Habs.
    Seriously, I do think after the embarrassment of the Ottawa shellacking they got on National TV as part of CBC’s Hockey Day in Canada, the Canadiens will be looking for payback. But then again, this team seems to lack that killer instinct to go with their soulless play since the Holidays…
    It’s not up to the coach(es) to do some actual “Work” on the ice, if the Habs want to win, they need to work for their opportunities but lately it seems they’ve become the Red Wings of ’93 (23 players leave each game or practice in 23 separate limousines), they aren’t playing for each other… and sadly, don’t seem to really care. Even sparkplug Chris Higgins is complacent out there on his line with Saku, who’s seems to want to do too much and Michael Ryder who is quickly turning into the new Brian Savage.
    If Steve Begin plays, he will crash and bang and get stuff going but no offence to Steve, if he is your saviour, you’re in trouble. So yeah, I’m looking for Bob Gainey, who seems to be doing a slow burn watching this team, to make one of his out-of-the-blue moves to inject some life into this confused bunch.
    We’ve seen some guys come in here in the past and just set the team on fire (I remember Donald Audette was playing possessed after landing here until that ugly wrist injury completely ruined his career).

  15. #15 joshtm says:
    January 29, 2007 at 2:41 pm

    “Geeze byes,” as Ryder would say, “who’s the one with the cheque book that signs them there big stars? I guess its Pactum, no wait its Jack, no its doggone….oh wait isn’t it Bob, he’s the one that pays me bye!”

    Hello, someone forgot to tell these armchair GMs that he who drafts players is also responsible for having or not having a star!

    “Geeze bye, afor they’s retires Ken’s Number ah maybe they’s should be retiring Bob’s chequebook” Ryder might say “ifn’ only to make sure they’s can sign me next year!”

  16. #16 smiler2729 says:
    January 29, 2007 at 2:49 pm

    I’m glad Sheldon Souray’s speaking up, the leaders on this team need to step in now and I’m sure Koivu’s saying his part but not to the press like Souray. The last time Souray spoke out was the ’04 playoffs against the Bruins when he questioned Alexei Kovalev’s little wrist getting slashed and giving up on the play while Glen Murray skated right in and beat Theodore. Kovalev sure showed up after that and the Habs overcame the 3-1 games deficit to eliminate Boston. Here’s hoping that works here… or Sheldon may just be playing his card to get traded out of town as a malcontent but I doubt that.

  17. #17 smiler2729 says:
    January 29, 2007 at 2:56 pm

    We here have to remember Bob Gainey’s watching the same games we are and has a bit of better grasp on things than the fans or the media. We don’t really know what happens in the dressing room or which player has personality quirks that make or break them as performers, coaches, management and those 23 players know so we can only play this guessing game, throw our two cents worth of our analysis and regurgitate what the press write as if it is given fact ( when it’s not ). So let’s ease up on the harsh criticism and let the ship right itself from within, there’s no one I would rather have as G.M. of the Canadiens than Gainey… ‘cept maybe ol’ Sam Pollock.

  18. #18 Mark LOVES the Habs says:
    January 29, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    It’s up to the leaders in the dressing room to “call out” players who are not pulling their weight. At least Souray cares. This team does not seem to have any chemistry. Every team has a combination of Euros and North Americans so that’s not the excuse. I hope Alex Perezhogin is not the second coming of Nik Borchevsky:)

  19. **UPDATED: 1:20 PM EST**

    update from spectors this afternoon:


    SPORTSNET.CA: reports sources claiming Philadelphia Flyers captain Peter Forsberg has agreed to lift his “no-trade” clause to be dealt to a playoff contender. His health status remains an issue . “Sources tell Sportsnet a deal could revolve around a conditional future considerations trade built around Forsberg’s performance and if or when he re-signs with the Flyers again in the off season.”

  20. #20 doggone R habs says:
    January 29, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    I think Forsberg is going to Colorado. that’s his choice because he played there before, and had success. I would prefer Bertuzzi anyways.
    I wish the other hab players would vent like Souray, and be as honest as him, in regards to the problems on the team.

  21. #21 PACTUM SERVA says:
    January 29, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    I agree i think IF forsberg gets traded it will be to colarado also.

  22. #22 joshtm says:
    January 29, 2007 at 5:20 pm

    Oh gee Smiler, yes I agree Bob is on a different planet and sees a totally different game than we do. But hey, players skating rings around the defense and blitzing Huet over, and players taking the puck away from Niinima and Streit, geeze, I guess Bob doesn’t see that, he sees a totally different game. Someone get Bob Gainey to the looney ward cause he’s seeing a totally different game than us poor fans. Geeze Smiler are you also seeing a totally different team than us too? At least someone is enjoying the losers.

  23. #23 joshtm says:
    January 29, 2007 at 5:21 pm

    Don’t worry, Gainey is gonna give up all our great rookies for Forsberg, and this will be Forsbergs last season as a healthy player and what’ll we have, no future and a big contract to pay out to an injured player. Oh yes, we’ll get Forsberg if only to finish fifth in the division and be locked out of the playoffs….too little too late.

  24. #24 joshtm says:
    January 29, 2007 at 5:25 pm

    I love the Habs web site, oh yes this will be a memorable night for Ken. He’ll be shaking his head and laughing at us all, wondering why Guy and Bob are in charge of a losing franchise…..

  25. #25 PACTUM SERVA says:
    January 29, 2007 at 5:29 pm

    conroy traded back to calgary

  26. #26 smiler2729 says:
    January 29, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    josh you’re out to lunch on every aspect of your opinions

  27. #27 doggone R habs says:
    January 29, 2007 at 6:17 pm

    It’s true. Conroy has been traded back to Calgary. How come we always miss the boat? I’m not saying Conroy would have been the answer, but it would be nice for a change to get a player before another team does. do you know what I mean?
    We always seem to fall flat on our faces, when it comes to getting a quality player. Why can’t Gainey ever get a marquee player? I’m very frustrated with this organization now.

  28. #28 WICKSTER says:
    January 29, 2007 at 6:34 pm

    Conroy went for Lundmark and draft pick’s

  29. #29 Jack Tornton says:
    January 29, 2007 at 7:22 pm


    Dallas: Lehtinen

    Habs: Ryder/2nd round pick/maybe a prospect

    This trade makes sense because

    1)Habs need a winger that wil produce along side with Koivu. Remeber the combo composed of Lehtinen-Koivu-Selanne at the Olympics. Well those who will remember are surely convinced this trade makes absolute sense.

    2)Everyone knows that Bob Gainey has close contact with his former team (Dallas)

    3) Ryder is a pretty good goaal scorer but isn’t producing lately. He might as well wake up his little firend Ribeiro. Remember him with ribeiro and Dagenais. Wrll, yeah it is pretty convinving for the other end(Dallas) too.

    What do you guys think? Does it make sense to you? Should we add another pick/player/prospect or remove one or recommend more than Lehtinen for what we are offering?

    What do you think Joshtm? If Joshtm agrees this trade makes than it can’t be any

  30. #30 doggone R habs says:
    January 29, 2007 at 8:01 pm

    except that we need a centerman for the 2nd line. everyone is looking for centermen, because it’s a commodity that’s harder to find than wingers. and whatever trade we make, we need to try and include Samsonov, even if it means eating part of his salary. Use him as a throw in.

  31. #31 WICKSTER says:
    January 29, 2007 at 8:15 pm

    Enough with european’s like perizogan and Streit, who is a fricken defenseman playing on the fourth line. Let’s get some hard hitting, nuckle throwing Canadian boy’s on the fourth line!
    I’m sure Neil & McGratton are shaking in their skate’s when those 2 europeans get on the ice.

  32. #32 stevejur says:
    January 29, 2007 at 8:29 pm

    Guys relax, believe me when I tell you that this struggle is GOOD.
    Now is the perfect time to slump. Remember the Oilers and Flames?
    They were in a hugh slump before they caught on fire.
    You don’t want to peek at the wrong time.
    Remember what the Flames and Oilers did?
    That’s right they marched into the finals with momentum.
    The Habs will march to the final 4 this year.
    Sit back and enjoy the ride. We need to peek within the last 10 games.
    It will happen. Gainey will get 2 pieces before the playoffs,
    like Carolina did last year.

    As I said before and I’ll say it again:


  33. #33 doggone R habs says:
    January 29, 2007 at 8:49 pm

    For people who compare Patrick Roy to Ken Dryden, look at these stats: Dryden won 258 games and only lost 57 games. He played 8 seasons, and won the cup 6 times. AMAZING! nobody playing so few seasons will ever win the cup that many times. Tonight he is being honored at the Bell Centre, and his number retired.
    I know some of you will argue that Roy played many more years, but nevertheless, it is still an amazing feat!

  34. #34 PACTUM SERVA says:
    January 29, 2007 at 8:55 pm

    I agree with to to some point but the game has changed so much over the years that half of those super star players back then would get smoked in todays league.Players are bigger,stronger,faster than ever.I think even if dryden was in his prime in todays games with todays equipment that he would not fare well.No disrespect to ken though.That applies for many players of that era

  35. #35 riser8 says:
    January 29, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    Pactum I respectfully disagree with your previous comment. Player’s today may be faster and stronger but that does not mean they are better athlete’s than the previous generation of star player’s. You cannot compare today’s game to 20,30,40,or even 50 year’s ago. Yes today’s hockey player’s may be stronger and better conditioned then player’s from the 70’s but don’t tell me they were better. Bobby Orr, Guy Lafleur, Ken Dryden would all be super stars today if all thing’s were equal. I would like to see some of the so called great goalies of today play with the same equipment that Dryden was wearing when he was back stopping the Hab’s to all those Cup wins. Bigger and stronger does not mean better….you cannot compare different era’s, but what you can say is that a great player no matter when they played would and always will be a great player!

  36. #36 PACTUM SERVA says:
    January 29, 2007 at 10:04 pm

    Very good points riser i agree with you there.I guees at the end of the day you cannot take away what some of those players have accomplished.Fair enough rise

  37. anyone know why Perzhogin is sitting tonight for murray to play?

  38. Because Murray works.

    Perezhogin floats.

  39. #39 PACTUM SERVA says:
    January 29, 2007 at 10:42 pm

    or maybe he is in a deal in the works? lol

  40. #40 doggone R habs says:
    January 29, 2007 at 11:28 pm

    I really hoped we were rid of Murray for good. ugh!

  41. HEY….welcome back HB.

    True enough, Murray works….still hoping its because a deal is in the works however….

  42. Samsonov hit someone!….I dropped my sandwich.

  43. Nice game Habs,DRYDEN fo P.M. ,WAY TO GO Abby ,head huntin pricks senaters need there heads beat in a bit more. Go HABS, THANK – U KEN DRYDEN.

  44. #44 doggone R habs says:
    January 30, 2007 at 12:28 am

    Thank God we won. Looks like Carbo is trying to get habs to play a defensive style, like Calgary. But I think it will be hard for habs to stay this disciplined every game. it’s not in their blood. anyways a win is a win!
    Time to see Sidney 2 of the next 3 games.
    Congrats to Dryden; this ceremony was well over due. why did they wait so long?

  45. very quietly, the habs have won three of the last four games….amidst all our whining.

    man, what a great effort tonight.Just the effort that makes us all whine when they decide not to do it. Forget last saturday…we’ll see the laffs again & put this kind of effort in.

    the sens play back to back tomorrow after a late one tonight.we’ll have two games in hand after that.

  46. #46 Gui-Unit says:
    January 30, 2007 at 12:31 am

    8 years in the nhl and 6 cups, thats just unbelievable..Abesicher’s save on Spezza was sick and so was Pleckanec’s goal. Anyways I hope they do the same against Pittsuburg.

    GO HABS GO!!!!

  47. #47 Gui-Unit says:
    January 30, 2007 at 12:32 am

    8 years in the nhl and 6 cups, thats just unbelievable..Abesicher’s save on Spezza was sick and so was Pleckanec’s goal. Anyways I hope they do the same against Pittsuburg on Thursday.

    GO HABS GO!!!!


  49. #49 habs phan says:
    January 30, 2007 at 3:03 am


  50. Yup, still fourth in the conference. Won 3 of last 4 against the likes of Atlanta, Buffalo and Ottawa. Golly, gee willikers. Where are all the doomsday predictions and trade mongerers? Oh wait, I see that they are still amongst us.

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