Toronto Tuesday
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The Canadiens play in Toronto tonight on a rare Tuesday meeting with the Leafs. The Habs have elected to put Carey Price in between the pipes instead of Cristobal Huet.
It’s no secret Cristobal Huet for whatever reason, has never really been effective against the Leafs and has never won a game in Toronto. It seems like an easy call to make.
If the Canadiens manage to put forth the effort they did against Ottawa, they in theory should have absolutely no trouble with the Leafs.
As we all know, the Leafs are a different team when they play the Canadiens and it is never a predictable game.
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- Senet1 : It will be interesting to see how Sutter does because to me the Oilers are not his kind of team, but then again neither were the Flames.
- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
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November 13, 2007 at 4:06 pm
GO HABS GO… need to put some valuable space between us and the leafs… dem dirty ole leafs!
Let’s go PRICE! Huge game for him tonight!
November 13, 2007 at 4:08 pm
Montreal has to win tonight. I feel that this is the time when they start going down every year. they have to be in 4th until January! They always do good at the begining but then get bad in the middle. THEY MUST WIN THIS GAME!!!
November 13, 2007 at 7:15 pm
listen Keep your loser peice of **** canadian fans out of our American Chats, they have nothing nice to say because all of Canada sucks, All canadians are worthless peices of ****, keep those animals out and into their cages! they are scum trash, i hate canada, You losers better watch your mouths because canada is made up of stupid canadian peices of trash, your all garbage, stay the heck OUT OF OUR CHATS and go back to the bottom of the dumpsters with the garbage you Candians are! thank you
November 13, 2007 at 7:46 pm
Wow, JOHN… Nice rant. You sound very edumacated. I’ve got $20 that he’s sporting a nice Kentucky Mudflap or the stylish Mississippi Waterfall hairdo. Beat it hillbilly!
November 13, 2007 at 7:48 pm
um…..John?…………which chats exactly would they be?…..just curious.
November 13, 2007 at 8:28 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA john is just upset that the canadien boys are spanking all of the american woman.It just goes to show how much of a loser you are when you go into chat rooms lol DANCAN said it best beat hillbilly.Why are you even on a computer now isnt deer hunting season? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
November 13, 2007 at 8:32 pm
The only good thing to come out of the states was an empty bus.
November 13, 2007 at 8:34 pm
GO CANADA GO GO HABS GO AND BLOW AMERICAN WOMAN BLOW
November 13, 2007 at 8:39 pm
is there any way of keeping garbage like john off of this blog can’t he be cut off?
November 13, 2007 at 9:15 pm
You Yanks are too bankrupt to have a opinion,pay your bills and get a healthplan.What’s your dollor worth?…$0.50 cents…lol
November 13, 2007 at 10:23 pm
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November 13, 2007 at 10:24 pm
canadian dollar
November 13, 2007 at 10:24 pm
mtl is unfortunately a middle of the road team yet again this year. They’ll play hard, win some, most likely squeak into the playoffs, but are not of the same caliber as the main teams that can actually make a serious run for the cup. I’ll cheer for them, but let’s be real: until a few key changes are made, they will not be serious contenders.
November 13, 2007 at 10:24 pm
Montreal canadians are winning
November 13, 2007 at 11:10 pm
How lucky can you be? Habs had no business winning this game. They were totally outplayed by the leafs. Habs didn’t start skating until the middle of the 3rd period. Oh well, just consider it justice because we should have gotten 1 point in the Ottawa game, and got nothing. So sweet revenge. But please habs skate in your next game! If we had played a better team, we would have been bombed!
November 13, 2007 at 11:23 pm
If Huet had played, we would have lost!
November 13, 2007 at 11:38 pm
The way I saw this game was that the Habs didn’t show the spunk they showed when the lost to the Maple Sh#i%ts last. That game and the previous one to that were basically gifts the Canadiens made to them. This one proved the other way around but extra mention that the Habs scored more than one goal and Price letting that deflection in (hard one to take – too casual on the play!). Again too many penalties and what is it going to take to get some leadership…Kovalev had three points which means we won’t see him again till the next fourth game as he’ll be invisible now for the next three. I am glad he is scoring but if we check other teams with their star players (or at least the ones earning the same cash as him are there every night every shift!!!)
So let’s take the win and keep on…shake up that energy…the young guns are there for this…so use them tell them to hit everything with the puck…get that jersey dirty.
Let’s go! Come on, this is where the leaders (Pleks, Kovalev, Koivu, Markov (eventhough the penalties have got to stop), Hamrlik have to push to another level. Still looking for that trade!! That big centreman or closer (call Teemu) – Patrick Marleau…somebody that can score (what’s Ryder’s role!)
Go Habs Go!
November 13, 2007 at 11:51 pm
habs fanatic, you have no reason to post here…you are always regurgitating the same old story all the time, why the habs lost, why the habs should of lost. are you some low life ******* that sits at home and waits to trash the habs online and goes about wandering around the city with your maxime lapierre jersey on boasting how great this team is? i’d love to meet you at a bar and put you in your place. you must be some grizzled old **** with nothing better to do in your life..do yourself a favor and get lost.
November 14, 2007 at 12:07 am
gee Superfan: I could have sworn you were the *******!
At least I have the class not to insult another blogger.
I’m only spewing some of the garbage you directed at me!
At least I give realistic constructive criticism! And if you think the habs played for 60 minutes, then you are the only one that thinks that!
and if you think we played well killing penalties, then you are a true MORON!
So if youy dish it out, I’ll give it right back, *** HOLE!
November 14, 2007 at 2:18 pm
Habs Fanatic & Chevy4CH are the worst kind of fans to have… the team is outplaying their expectations so far this season, but still nothing good to say… I believe HABS BLOG runs the site here, and is a forum for fans, not mindless critics who just spew negative remarks just to get attention…
You both should just switch to a ping pong blog somewhere, they want your opinions there, no one wants them here…
November 14, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Michael Ryder for Mikko Koivu and a 2nd round pick.
November 14, 2007 at 6:55 pm
let’s trade chevy, that american ***** and habs fanatic for a used puck bag.
Price played great, and Huet has been one of the top 3 goalies in the entire league last 3 years. Especially this year..don;t believe me..go check his stats…too bad goaltending is all we have….we need a lot of work upfront
November 14, 2007 at 7:14 pm
Sorry Stanley, that isn’t happening. I don’t know how many Western Conference games you have watched this year but Mikko Koivu is an unreal, all around player, more so then Ryder and he is younger then Ryder. He has the big body presence in front of the net and still has sweet hands to score a highlight reel goal. He is reliable in the face off circle and has great work ethic and backchecks hard. We will never trade Ryder for him. But in my opinion, I think Ryder belongs on this team. He has a wicked shot and is a big guy that works hard and always has nice hits. He is in something that many players in every sport go through. A SLUMP.. We all watch the games and you can all tell that the guy is trying his *** off. He works hard in the corners and is physically present but as soon as he gets the puck on his stick he has trouble. Now that is just a confidence issue, that he needs to get out of. What Ryder needs is a couple of garbage goals and an empty netter or something like that to get his confidence back. We all know what he can do, and because he isn’t playing well right now doesn’t mean we should just ship him away. If that was the case then trades would happen alot more often in the NHL, come on guys have faith. I mean we all hated Kovalev, some of us still do, but he is playing unreal right now with the habs and if some of us had our way he woulda been gone a long time ago.
Lastly, Habs fanatic you say you offer constructive criticism? How the **** is post #15 and #16 constructive criticism. All you say that is even remotly close is that they need to skate. Well ****, you should be the coach.. we don’t wanna hear that **** and the players don’t come onto this blog and read what you have to say, so keep your bullshit to yourself and say something about the team that shows your knowledge as a HABS FAN.. not someone who just sits there and bash’s them. So what if you don’t think they are as good as they are playing… tell us why.. not senseless blabber that a 5 year old can say. Opinions are one thing when you have knowledge to back it up, but when you just spit **** out you sound half mental and immature.
November 14, 2007 at 7:21 pm
and habs fanatic… to your post #19, I think the habs played very well the whole 60 minutes and the one minute into overtime, and I think they were extremely well on the PK and I’m sure many other guys here think that too.
The only problem I have had with the habs this year, is the fact that they get a one or two goal lead and try to protect it by going into a defensive shell. I don’t know what it is but they just can’t do that. Never seems to work, anyone have an opinion on this.. habs fanatic say something worth reading if your gonna say something.
November 15, 2007 at 10:35 pm
I agree RBK. they were gonna beat the sens also but they sat back.
November 27, 2007 at 12:24 am
Here we go again. Started out on fire like last year…took a while but other teams figured out we cant score 5 on 5, therefore, stay outta the box and they win. ( PP is not even looking very good now) Back to the same ol same ol…we need scoring and apparently no one there can do it. Well, maybe Im being hastey..Kovy’s line is playing awesome..getting chances, scoring goals. The 1st line is horrible. Looks like Ryder’s lookin for a ride somewhere else, and is Koivu even playing????? Hard to notice him. Yet Carbo keeps them together. A #1 line….thats the scoring line for other teams isnt it??? Ottawa is plaguing us again this year…AND the bloody leafs. These guys are losing to everyone, they’re playing like an AHL team, and yet we cant beat em?? Come on boys, lets play some meaningful hockey. Give that 1st line a kick in the *** and get em going. Someone tell one of these guys to go a stand in front of the net. Instead of all 3 spending every shift huggin the boards..not gonna score from there. At least it took us til after the all-star break last year to start playin this candy *** hockey. Is this gonna be another false hope year? Number 1 PP in the league….whoopdie doo…not much odds unless you spend the whole game on the PP. These guys just cant score..whats the prob? Can someone say “healthy scratch”? Gotta try something Guy, you gotta see whats goin on dont ya? I want 1 good year..just 1. Lets get playin some inspired hockey again and lets start with the Leafs tomorrow night. If we dont soon snap out of this spiral and get goin we’re gonna hit the same rut as last year and end up in the same place. Dont know why I continue to love ya guys, but I do…Habs fan til the end I am, but its getting very frustrating, and Im sure Im not alone. Either get scoring regularily 5 on 5 or go after someone who you can trade for and get them in here. If not, Im afraid we got nothing to look forward to but the same fate we dealt with last year. 9th or 10th dont make the playoffs. Let go team..wake the hell up and put that friggin puck behind a few goalies when we got the same number of guys on the ice that they do. Go Habs Go !!!!!