Who cares about Mats Sundin?
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I don’t.
With a little over one month until the Canadiens 100th season begins, it’s time to forget about the indecisive Swede and focus on the team and the season ahead.
Over two months since the Free Agent signing period began and Sundin is not any closer now to making a decision then he was then. Is Sundin THAT big of an addition to carry on this ridiculous
pursuit?Who cares?
Are the Canadiens not ready to compete with the current roster?
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- Senet1 : It will be interesting to see how Sutter does because to me the Oilers are not his kind of team, but then again neither were the Flames.
- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
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September 3, 2008 at 6:07 pm
I saw an article today that quoted Bob Gainey saying that the team could add “another player” but that he considered the team to be “99.9%” ready.
He also said that he doubted a rookie would make the team this year, unless that rookie put in a Sergei Kostitsyn-like performance.
September 3, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Well it looks like he will not be a hab so lets move on.
September 3, 2008 at 10:07 pm
A few years back, Sundin would have been a great addition to the team. Sundin, though very talented, is an injury risk and not worth the kind of cash his name used to be worth.
September 3, 2008 at 10:13 pm
A few years back, Sundin would have been a great addition to the team. Sundin, though very talented, is an injury risk and not worth the kind of cash his name used to be worth.
injury risk?
September 3, 2008 at 11:24 pm
it’s easy to say he’s an injury risk when you know you’re not getting him.
he’s no more an injury risk than any other player in the NHL. In fact, he’s much more durable than most NHL players! check how many games he’s missed the last few years-VERY FEW!
September 4, 2008 at 6:12 am
I would love to see Sundin in the Canadiens jersey, but I don’t think we need him. I think Gainey made two very nice acquisitions in Tanguay and Laraque.
September 4, 2008 at 8:01 am
His heart just isn’t in it right now, and that’s fine. He’s unrestricted and is calling his own
shots. I’d rather move on, than have a high priced passenger on the team.
I hope his career as a PokerStars ambassador works out for him. If not, he can take his
out of shape body and drain the ‘nucks for 20 large. lol
September 4, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Wow great job HABSBLOG the new site look great.
September 4, 2008 at 3:05 pm
looks sick I’d like to see on of my vids on the main page.type up Stuo11 n youtube. And yeh, just give up on ******* Sundin.
September 4, 2008 at 4:07 pm
done.
September 4, 2008 at 9:54 pm
one large sweed to the habs = coupe stanley
i care
September 5, 2008 at 7:17 am
wow thanks, and ummm… yeh I really hope montreal has the outdoor game, we deserve soo much more than Detroit and Chicago!!!!
September 5, 2008 at 10:26 am
Lovin’ the new look of this site.
September 5, 2008 at 11:51 am
Like the new site!
Mats is not what we need he should just stay w/ Toronto
September 5, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Mats is what we need for sure! But he’s likely not going to sign here. In Mats perspective of Montreal: Outdoor game,All-Star Game, part of the greatest franchise of hckey! I would choose it easily!
September 5, 2008 at 4:16 pm
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=248521&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_nhl
“Sources say Sundin is also expected to meet, or speak with the Montreal Canadiens before returning to Europe on Monday.”
September 5, 2008 at 4:41 pm
It’s a rumor. Sundin will be a Hab. According to a Swedish source who is close to Sundin, his mind is set on the Canadiens.
September 5, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Who is behind “HabsBlog?? There should be an “About Me” or a “FAQ” section somewhere so we know who is in charge, and what your policies/procedures are for this web site. Please identify yourself.
September 5, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I am.
I dont have any “policies/procedures.”
Just discuss the Habs…..
September 5, 2008 at 4:55 pm
So who are you??
September 5, 2008 at 8:19 pm
where did you get this rumour from? sorry, but I disagree with you. After all if Sundin doesn’r even know what he wants to do, how could someone else?
September 5, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Does it really matter who HB is? I heard she was a one armed prostitute from alabama that could do things to you with her one good arm that would make you forget about that thing on her neck lol ……just kiddin HB YOU ROCK
September 5, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Well, since the one armed prostitute has editorial authority over what is published on this site, she should identify herself. It’s standard procedure on most blogs and websites that the webmaster does this. I don’t want some nameless, unidentified person dictating what can or can’t be said. I have written some posts that were deleted here because Mr/Mrs “Moderator” decided they were of no value.
September 5, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Just relax and enjoy the blog. There are bigger issues in the world then trying to figure out who runs the Habs Blog . He does a great job and gives us a place to talk about the habs and thats all that really matters. We have all had a post or two deleted at some point i am sure. No big deal, relax and have fun .
September 5, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Stanley – unless you’re going to provide a link to a reputable publication with stories like that don’t post them….and if you do post speculation don’t use words like “Sundin will be a Hab”
Here’s a rumour for ya….my brother’s best friends dad’s uncle knows a guy in Botswana whose Japanese friend has ties with the drug cartel in Russia. They sell to some Swedish dude who claims to be Sundin’s *** lover. When he was high as a kite he said that he and Sundin went 5 pin bowling and Sundin confided that he had already signed with Montreal for $78 million per game.
Both stories are just as credible.
September 5, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Oh and if your still not happy just go post on another site,its just as easy as that. Cheers
September 6, 2008 at 7:37 am
Nice, well done, Habsblog!
Well, Sundin, again. Sundin and his agent J.P. Barry will be meeting with Leafs management team; then Habs team before he head home.
September 6, 2008 at 11:59 am
“some posts that were deleted here because Mr/Mrs “Moderator” decided they were of no value”
Never…posts get caught in spam filter if they contain excessive links, come from a first timeo or phony address or in your case probably full of profanity..:)
and my true identity is revealed….I am none other than habs legend Craig Ludwig
September 6, 2008 at 1:04 pm
site looks great!!!!!
lookinf forward to the new hockey season ,
habs rule
September 6, 2008 at 1:25 pm
My latest video CANADIENS 100 YRS IS NOW UP ON YOUTUBE!
September 6, 2008 at 1:27 pm
btw, create an avatar at gravatar.com if you want it to show up in the comments.
September 6, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Sites looks awesome HB, been awhile since I’ve been back.
PS. Craig, love the shin pads.
September 7, 2008 at 9:11 am
Great site, Craig. Maybe not surprisingly, you’re out of the mold that BG is using for his defense. Physical at your end, but quick with the first breakout pass, then able to get into the play at the other end. I can’t wait for the Gazette to run one of those ‘where are they now’ series ….. “currently residing in cyberspace with some of the craziest habs’ fans ….”
I still care about MS, he makes us even bigger and better. Laraque and Tanguay are great additions. We can compete [and win] without Mats, and no one player guarantees a Cup, but he makes the coaches job much simpler in so many situations, and would give us the best second line center in the league [actually better than our first line center].
Late in ‘FreeAgentFrenzy’, I mentioned the ‘Selanne, Niedemeyer move’ and Mats may feel better about a long cup run if he misses 20-40 games of regular season action [even though it goes against what he said at last trade deadline]. We could match Van’s 10M/yr for 1/2 year.
Chemistry concerns would be a challenge, but Carbo seems to be doing a good job of keeping everyone performing no matter what role they are given. So, I’m holding out hope. Either way MS goes, we have cap space for a major move this year. Next year its about locking up Komisarek.
September 7, 2008 at 9:05 pm
If Sundin waitsd to see the standings and see the best team he’s obiously going to Montreal lol
September 10, 2008 at 8:34 am
The Fourth Period is reporting that Gaigney may well have caught Sundin–Sundin’s agent is quoted as indicating that Gaigney laid out in detail an “excellent case” for coming to Montreal. Sundin is said to have been asked to make his decision soon, as Gaigney has other “plans in the works”.
Beautiful site! Nice work. The redesign of your weblog is a fitting tribute to the Canadiens 25th Stanley Cup Season.
September 10, 2008 at 12:28 pm
I wonder what Gainey’s back-up plans are. I doubt he goes after any available FA’s as he has mentioned multiple times he would look to “help” a team that is over the cap. That would include Anaheim $1.3mil(Schneider), Washinton $2.25mil(Nylander), Philly $4.5mil (Carter), San Jose $.2mil(Marleau) Chicago 2.5 mil, Calgary 1.5mil, & Detroit.7mil. I could see those first 3 happening, especially Philly since they are over the cap by the most.
September 10, 2008 at 12:29 pm
ooooh! maybe briere changed his mind about montreal….not sure the reception he would get after the big snub last year
September 10, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Firstly, I like the new site though at first it took time to find everything. I will be disappointed in MS does not come to Montreal after all this waiting, especially if he goes elsewhere. I agree we can still win with the team we have but my main concern has always been our defense. I would still like to see another good defensive defenceman. To me we can live wihout it during the regular season but come playoff time we need that steadying force behind the blueline when the pressure is on.
September 10, 2008 at 11:35 pm
I think Montreal would love having Mats holding the cup above his head in 2009, just like mats would love the city himself and to celebrate in Montreal would be a great ending to his fantastic career. good luck habs
September 10, 2008 at 11:39 pm
please so NO to briere his heart doen’t seem to always be in the game
September 11, 2008 at 12:48 pm
why not ?
September 12, 2008 at 12:21 pm
because he sucks!!!
September 12, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Rumour: Lang to Montreal
http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/259714.html
haven’t found an english article yet….will post once I do. rumour is a couple of prospects going the other way
September 12, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Lang to Montreal
http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=381855
And Brisebois resigned….
http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=381856
September 12, 2008 at 6:11 pm
lang for a 2nd round pick in 2010….is 4 mil too much for lang who will play 3rd, MAYBE 2nd line center?
September 12, 2008 at 6:35 pm
actually lang could play line 1 since he had such great chemistry with AK27 in Pittsburgh….Pleks could see a demotion here
September 13, 2008 at 8:42 am
Plecks will not see a demotion. In my opinion, if he was demoted it would hurt his development.
September 13, 2008 at 3:22 pm
i wouldnt call it a demotion. those top 3 lines can be roled out against any opposing line. think of it as lines 1a, 1b, 1c as opposed to lines 1, 2, 3. Other than PP time, they should all see equal ice time.
September 13, 2008 at 4:31 pm
I agree, obviously the line that shows the best chemistry will get he most ice time as the season progresses but going in I have to like Tanguay, Lang and Kovalev as my #1 line.
I think Koivu is showing that he still belongs but not as a top scorer. In fact he has never been a top scorer. Seldom has he scored more than 20 goals a season. He is still a good playmaker though and his hustle is still there. I think he makes a good third line centre as well as a good point man for the power play.
September 13, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Plekanec to me is still our #2 centreman, he is good but it is doubtful if he will ever be a #1 centremen due to his size like Koivu he may be put in that position but I think we have all agreed that Koivu never was a #1 centreman we just never had anyone else better.
To me a number one centre consistently has 80+ points and 35+ goals per season. I am not sure if Plekanec will ever reach those kind of stats, but here is hoping.