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Who needs Peter Forsberg anyway?

  • Yesterday Bob Gainey admitted to making a few calls over to Philadelphia to see what the price for Peter Forsberg was. Absolutely no response, no interest from King Peter and the Flyers.

    Another apparent dis to Montreal and Hab fans who want a big name trade before the deadline.

    The Habs got a bit of karmic revenge when Peter Forsberg fell flat on his ass in his attempt to tie the Canadiens winning shoot out goal.

    You could already hear him blaming it on his foot, his skate, his whatever, before he even got up off the ice. Even better was Tomas Plekanec used Peter’s own move in the shoot out to keep the Canadiens in it.

    Here’s an interesting stat, since Forsberg was dealt to the Preds he has 0 points, in that same span Garth Murray is tearing up the net with 2 clutch goals.

    Enough picking on Peter, as bad as his shoot out attempt was I don’t think I’ve seen a worse shot in the history of the shoot out than Alexander Perezhogin’s shot. I’m pretty sure even Aaron Downey could get a shot ON GOAL in a shootout.

    The good news is the Canadiens got 2 points on the road against a great team. Everyone expected the Habs to walk out with a loss but they overcame 2-0, 3-1, 4-2 and 5-4 leads on the road against one of the best teams in the west.

    If the Canadiens hadn’t taken 400 penalties and scored 2 goals in their own net it might not have even went that far.

    The Predators offense is potent no doubt, but for a team that has expectations of a deep playoff run their D looks suspect. After all, these are the Canadiens that they squandered 3 two goal leads too not the Red Wings.

    Jaro Halak seems to be gaining confidence with each game, 3-0 ain’t a bad start in the NHL and he’s looked pretty solid. How long can he keep it up?

    Out of nowhere it seems the Canadiens have won 3 straight games and are still hovering in that 5th-10th pack. Huge points for a team about to embark on a long road trip.

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  1. The other thing to note for the future is that the culture is changing yet again. The Ottawa-Buffalo game yesterday is just the beginning. The owners have essentially already indicated that there is no more carte blanche for goons going after the marquis players. Even though, the rules won’t officially change until next season. The Sabres showed yesterday that the players have already accepted this change, and will not stand for it anymore. Good for them! The Canadiens now need to both generally size and toughen up. Who do they have who could handle Neil and his ilk? Downey ???

    Do up your seat belts! Hockey is going to get interesting again.

  2. How’s about this one:

    Kovalev to Nashville for Forsberg. Samsonov and Rivet to Phoenix for Laraques, and of course Rivet Ninnima to Hawks for Aucoin and a case of Molson Dry….and of course we let Gainey’s and Carbo’s contracts lapse….

  3. #3 Habz4EveR says:
    February 24, 2007 at 1:06 am

    Yes I found it bad that it injured a player and the hit was intention for sure. But since it was legal I say it 100% acceptable. No way should it be banned to hit with shoulder. The sport has already been less physical because of the new rules by Bettman… don’t turn it into a more sissy sport by taking away contact altogether!

  4. Then soften-up the shoulder pads a little like Don Cherry said

  5. #5 Habz4EveR says:
    February 24, 2007 at 1:14 am

    Ok maybe but I still think players just need to keep their heads up. Would of never happened if he hadn’t been head down

  6. Rob,if that would of been Crosby that Neil took out, what would you say about it ?

  7. Habz4EveR:

    I think that you might be missing my point. Legal and acceptable are two completely different issues. Legal is defined by the league while acceptable is defined by the team. Do you remember the Habs of the 1970s? They would fight over lots of stuff that was technically legal, but was completely unacceptable to them as a team (ie. even looking sideways at their goaltender or Habs’ marquis player.)

    Anaheim leads the league by far in fighting majors, and their GM is former NHL disciplinarian, Brian Burke. Do you see what I am getting at? I often think that the Carolina series last year was lost when the Canadiens did not respond to Justin Williams high sticking Koivu. What would have happened if on the very next shift all six Canadien players on the ice had dropped their gloves like Buffalo did yesterday? Unfortunately, we will never know.

    It is time for the Canadiens to again start defining what is acceptable, and not just being lorded over by what is legal. That is what makes a winning team.

  8. That Neil has perfected that move to the point he could change a 7 game series in the Sens favour and coach Murray tells him to do it !!!There’s only one way to stop that shit a la Pierre Bouchard vs Dave Shultz.

  9. And then there was Larry Robinson pounding the shit out of big bully Shultz as-well, it was a sight I’ll take to da grave.

  10. Xhabsfan:

    Neil has done this stuff many times this year… including to Koivu. It is one thing to be hard hitting, and another to try to cripple a marquis player. Twenty years ago, this stuff didn’t happen to players like Drury and Koivu because the teams did not allow it.

    PS. Two things that you should know about Crosby. One, he is from Cole Harbour, NS (ie. Home of Cam Russell) where being able to fight is a pre-requisite and two, he has superior balance and leg strength than most NHLers. One of these days, he will probably surprise you if he drops his gloves…

  11. Ya ,he’s a good canadian lad no doubt about it.

  12. Furthermore, since the owners just held a meeting and agreed on this issue last week. I would love to see Neil try a stunt like that again with Briere next game because that would give the NHL just cause to make him the first example of their new philosophy.

    That’s a muggs game! Start violating “the unwritten code” and see where it gets both a player and his team. If Neil wants to be a tough guy, he should go out and drop his gloves with Peters.

  13. Well ,the only thing that’s going to stop Neil in my opinion, is Neil really getting a real good shitkikking. If your willing to give one are you willing to take one Neil?

  14. As I said, it’s a mug’s game! Neil has now crossed a line, and has drawn attention to himself as a marked man. Ottawa can talk as tough as they want, but they aren’t. When your toughest player is your goaltender, you are in trouble!

    That game should be really interesting. I am expecting Peters will drop the gloves with Neil first. Once Neil is out of the box after that fight, Mair will likely have a go at him. Gaustad will likely pick up thirds in a rematch of an earlier fight with Neil. Neil will likely be too busy defending himself to consider trying to find time to blindside Briere.

    The Habs should also decide on their matchups against Neil for the next Ottawa game as payback for his attempt to injure Koivu earlier in the season.

  15. The Hab tough guy list sucks the bone.Last time Neil beat up Komasarik and that’s a point I’ve been trying to make for a long time now,THE HABS NEED A REAL TOUGH GUY !! And let’s not forget the Downey vs Brashier joke

  16. I know! I know! The memory of Downey’s bout with Jesse Boulerice is just that. A memory. Downey doesn’t seem to fight very often anymore, and he wins even less often. Downey’s mouthing off at Crosby on how to play hockey after the last Pens game was a true lowlight in Habs history if you ask me. You really have to wonder if he has anything left to offer the Habs.

    The Habs not only need a real tough guy to protect their marquis players, but they need to generally improve their overall team toughness.

  17. Habs need a couple of marquis players so the tough guy they don’t have ,has someone to protect,did I get that rite? Anyway they just announced they are trying to unload Laraques ,grab him Bob ,please………

  18. Georges Laraque’s stats : Born 1976,Montreal,6’3″ 245 lbs,56 games:5g-17 a-22 pts +7, if acquired ,promises to beat the f@ck out of Neil……

  19. #19 HIggy21 says:
    February 24, 2007 at 10:26 am

    Hey JOshtm;

    you’re living in the past man!!!!!!!!!!!

    I keep hearing this sening down Lapierre nonsense in December. Ohhhhhhhh he had 4 pts in 4 games. INcluding a empty net goal and a assist that really shot not have been consideres an assist. Not that I am downnplaying his 4th line contributions this year(although his shot is pathetic and he has less playmaking vision tehn Ryder) his contributions to teh team are not great enough to determine our fortunes. Get back to reality man and throw out those roaches.

  20. #20 HIggy21 says:
    February 24, 2007 at 10:27 am

    WE WILL NOT WIN THE CUP THIS YEAR BECASUE LAPIERRE WAS SENT DOWN TO THE MINORS FOR 6 DAYS IN DECEMBER.

  21. #21 Habs#1 says:
    February 24, 2007 at 1:33 pm

    If Alex Kovalev is the teams most talneted player then why does he only have 38 points? Oh right, cause he dosen’t care!

    He’s a cancer and he needs to go.

  22. #22 Habs#1 says:
    February 24, 2007 at 2:03 pm

    Guillaume is a healthy scratch today. Does anyone know if this is the first time he’s been a healthy scratch this year?

  23. #23 HIggy21 says:
    February 24, 2007 at 2:15 pm

    GOOD JOB YOUNG GUN LINE. SLOPPY SLOPPY SLOPPY.

  24. #24 HIggy21 says:
    February 24, 2007 at 2:16 pm

    SLOPPY

  25. #25 HIggy21 says:
    February 24, 2007 at 2:21 pm

    1st time for Lats as a healthy scratch. But definetely well deserved. He has become too conplacent just like the other rookies here in the 1st period. Lapierre needs to realize his spot on this team is not edged in stone especially if he plays like this.

  26. I cannot believe how bad the N.H.L. referee calls are this year. No other pro sport would allow so many different interpretations .

  27. #27 Kev_in_Dorval says:
    February 24, 2007 at 2:34 pm

    Finally a bad call goes the Habs way … wow great save by Halak … and another great save by Halak … and what a disappointing power play by the Habs … a well deserved penalty against Hill, hopefully they capitalize this time … oh, 5 on 3, the Habs gotta score now … and Sheldon Souray gets another goal on the powerplay! 1-1!

  28. Souray…… still want to trade em you crazy fans ??????????

  29. Halak’s stick side again.

  30. #30 Joshtm says:
    February 24, 2007 at 2:48 pm

    Higgy21 wants Bob to sign the old folgies, cause he denying that he’s living in the past…

    Sign the young guns, the vets are responsible for the slide after christmas. You had all the analysts on both sides of the border wondering if this was the year of the habs that was before christmas. That was with the young guns playing before Gainey sent them packing.

    Interesting, now with the vets running the show after Christmas, you have the same analyst wondering why the Habs are in a crisis.

    Now they are wondering if Gainey is gonna trade to bring back the habs playoff possiblities, not talking winning the cup but doing okay in the first or second round of playoffs.

    Geeze, I guess all the old tired vets like Rivet, Johnson, Downie, Murray, Koivu and Kovalev, the pink gum lines, cause hey they are so old that they don’t need the rubber tooth protector, like Kovalevs classic gum smile!

    Oh Yah! Higgy thinks we can win the cup with Kovalev and Johnson and Rivet eh?

  31. #31 Joshtm says:
    February 24, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    Oh no, since bringing the rookies back for the three game winning streak had nothing to do with the rookies eh Higgy? Just a mere coincidence eh?

  32. #32 R habs 4 real says:
    February 24, 2007 at 2:52 pm

    Halak is not an NHL goalie, yet! You can’t allow a goal like that, especially on the backhand. How come we play so poorly afternoon games? We’re not sharp so far. Bad passes, and NYI are dominating us!
    Start skating, guys!

  33. #33 Habs#1 says:
    February 24, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    Well that was a typical Habs first period. The goalie let’s in a bad one and his teammates leave him hanging out to dry on the other.

    Let’s see how they respond in the second to Halak giving up a weak one. Generally they collapse.

    And with no.21 on the season Souray’s stalk keeps going up. If Gainey can get a whoopper of a deal(Shane O’Brien and Bobby Ryan or Matt Carle and Steve Bernier/Joe Pavelski), then yes they should trade him. If they don’t get offered a deal like that then they keep him even though he’s leaving as a UFA for reasons previously discussed.(Not enough cap room and his daughter etc.).

  34. #34 Kev_in_Dorval says:
    February 24, 2007 at 2:59 pm

    These Islanders are trying to goad the Habs into playing an ugly game, hopefully they keep their heads. Dang, Halak shoulda had that Blake goal but he’s not to blame for the Habs being down 2-1. Lazy penalty by Markov. Good PK by Habs. Good shot by Ryder, DiPietro was there. The Habs had some real problems 1st period getting organized, hopefully, a better start to the 2nd period or they’re not winning a crucial game.

  35. There’s no sence blaming the rookies for anything ,they were thrust into a unrealistic scenario of trying to save the year after the regulars crapped out again.Would of been way better to start the year with them ,they would of been more comfortable at this point.

  36. #36 Kev_in_Dorval says:
    February 24, 2007 at 3:07 pm

    Sheldon Souray has been the team MVP this year, without question. Sure he is guilty of committing atrocious defensive errors but that cannon of a shot and his heart are extremely hard to replace. Would he re-sign with Montreal? I’d like him to at 4.5 mil tops but he could get a lot more probably from some other team. So I guess Gainey is going to have to create a bidding war and come Tuesday see which offer is best and pull the trigger. Plus, he doesn’t back down from Chris Simon! Souray’s value will probably never be higher than it is within the next 72 hours.

  37. Nice to see Lapierre stick up for Souray, shows all of you what the rookie’s think of Souray. That’s a tactic your going to see more often, go after the Habs best player. Like I said , we need an enforcer rite NOW!!!!

  38. I don’t think you can get one by Halak’s glove side ,wow!

  39. #39 Kev_in_Dorval says:
    February 24, 2007 at 3:16 pm

    What a save by Halak just now! Yo, why is anybody trashing this kid?

  40. #40 Kev_in_Dorval says:
    February 24, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    3-1 Isles not because of Halak but the team in front of him isn’t getting the job done.

  41. #41 R habs 4 real says:
    February 24, 2007 at 3:31 pm

    We just didn’t show up today, AGAIN! How can you not show up for such an important game? Maybe the win against the preds was just an abberation from the way the habs normally play. Gainey should be a seller. WE’re NOT making the playoffs. This game showed that. No desire, no heart, no skating, no defence, no offence! I also think the habs should tell the league NOT to schedule any more afternoon games, because we CAN’T EVER FU#$%^(ing WIN ONE!!

  42. #42 Habs#1 says:
    February 24, 2007 at 3:36 pm

    Your San Jose Shark Sheldon Souray jersey will be available soon.

  43. If we take this no contact Euro ringette style bullshit hockey to the Toronto match, were going to get our heads served back to us ,the team is to puny to play the girl guides !!!

  44. #44 R habs 4 real says:
    February 24, 2007 at 3:45 pm

    habs are being TOTALLY DOMINATED by the islanders. NY is bigger, stronger, and TOUGHER! That’s the kind of team we need. I would trade every single defenceman we have, because they all STINK!! They’re soft, and can’t knock anyone off the puck. Did you see that Markov giveaway? disgusting.
    You’ll never win a cup with these D MEN!
    Whenever we have the puck(which is rarely), they knock us off the puck so easily, yet when they have the puck, they just push us aside, like we are invisible. The history of the habs has always been small, skating teams. We have NEVER had BIG, STRONG PLAYERS! This mentality has to change.
    Komisarek and Latendresse are pussies, so soft, and they NEVER fight! Get rid of all the soft players!
    NYI looks like a real stanley cup contender. We look like TOTAL PUSHOVERS!
    Sell Gainey, PLEASE!

  45. Here’s the big difference I noticed in team size:When Tampa bay’s Stlouis scores ,his team looks huge around him, The Habs on the other hand score a goal and it looks like a pygmy convention !

  46. Well ,better effort in the 3rd and good effort for the rookies, bring on the Maplef@cks.!!

  47. #47 Habs#1 says:
    February 24, 2007 at 4:31 pm

    Don’t let the score fool you. The Habs were outhustled and outplayed in a game that they absolutely needed to win.

    This team can’t win games they need to.

    Gainey needs to start trading UFA’s(Rivet, Souray, Bonk) and the two Russian’s before tuesday. The Russian’s can go during the summer to but Kovalev and Sammy need to go.

    This team needs to get two things they don’t have before next season: size and heart.

  48. #48 R habs 4 real says:
    February 24, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    Why did the habs lose? BECAUSE THEY NEVER NEVER NEVER PLAY 60 MINUTES OF HOCKEY!!!!!!!!! I have watched every single game this year, and win or lose, they have failed to show up for the entire game! When they won in October and November, some of those games they shouldn’t have won. They got into a bad habit, (because they won) thinking that 20 or 40 minutes of playing time was enough to win games. IT’S NOT! You must skate and check for 60 MINUTES or you lose! Like today. This team is NOT CAPABLE of putting together several good games. If a player like Lapierre could score, we would be ok. He’s a real dynamo, lots of energy. I wish we had 23 players like him. Now he needs to learn how to put the puck in the net. 1 guy I would hand walking papers to, today, is DANDENAULT! What a horrible defensive player. Can’t check, a good for nothing! Today, they played exactly like a team who DOESN’T WANT TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS! We have to be sellers. Islanders are MUCH MUCH BETTER THAN US!
    So are the Leafs, Canes, Senators, Devils,Thrashers,Lightening, Sabres!
    Leafs will rip us to shreds on Monday!

  49. #49 Joshtm says:
    February 24, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    That is why we need a scoring type like Forsberg. Kovalev was supposed to be, he was exciting when he was first traded, but then like anyone under Bob Gainey, they learn Bob doesn’t care as long as the game looks semi exciting. Look at Dandy and Boully. Honestly, I don’t see what Carbo sees in them, he puts them on almost every time Montreal needs to come back, Dandy and Boully have never shown they can come back. If anything when Montreal gets a lead or goes behind, or its the third period it should be mandatory not to put Dandy or Boully on, the bastards are soft!

  50. #50 R habs 4 real says:
    February 24, 2007 at 5:30 pm

    How come we never trade for players with size AND heart? Koivu has a semi heart,(not enough) but not enough size. Latendresse has size, but doesn’t know how to use it effectively. Komisarek has size, but is soft, and can’t fight(gutless)! Souray gives away more goals to the opposition than he scores. He is a defensive liability, and has to be traded. What we need is a stay at home D man, who will protect us, instead of 1 who thinks of offence first.
    He also need a power forward who can score, and isn’t afraid to mix it up, and i with heart and desire. Gainey better get busy, or you can expect the same crap next year. The fact that Gainey has not done anything yet, leaves me dumbfounded. Doesn’t he want to win, or just maybe he’s trying to finish out of the playoffs to get a low number draft pick. Obviously, Carolina’s GM wants to win more than ours does!

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