Your ideal Sheldon Souray Trade
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Six days remain to see whether or not Sheldon Souray will be traded.
So put yourselves in Bob Gainey’s shoes and make the deal.
Does Souray go alone and who do you go after in return?
The team with most heavy interest is rumored to be the Sharks who have just coincidentally recalled Steve Bernier.
Is it a Souray for Bernier swap? More players or picks involved? Or is Souray going somewhere altogether different?
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- Senet1 : It will be interesting to see how Sutter does because to me the Oilers are not his kind of team, but then again neither were the Flames.
- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
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February 22, 2007 at 10:26 pm
yeah crazy who would of thought murray would of helped us so much!
February 22, 2007 at 10:56 pm
Murray must be on speed or something.lol
February 22, 2007 at 10:59 pm
WOW …WOW….WOW…..WOW…..WOW….WOW….
February 22, 2007 at 11:05 pm
That was a garbage goal! Poor Souray.
Even Johnson is energized, man he must be on speed too! Go figure, I pick on him and he proves me wrong. *******! Hey we’ll take a win any way we can.
February 22, 2007 at 11:18 pm
There’s a better energy with the the new Habs, their taking on the best and making a game of it, its making me proud ,win or loose.
February 22, 2007 at 11:28 pm
OH MY GOD, I DON’T BELIEVE MY EYE’S RITE NOW
February 22, 2007 at 11:30 pm
THERE’S 1 POINT ,YAHOOOO
February 22, 2007 at 11:40 pm
The whole freeking teams on speed,hockey’s fun again,its shoot out time !!!!
February 22, 2007 at 11:48 pm
WOW. What a hockey game!! Even you guy’s have to be happy with the effort the Hab’s are showing tonight. What an exciting game.
SHOOTOUT WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 22, 2007 at 11:48 pm
HOLY
February 22, 2007 at 11:51 pm
trade KOVALEV !!!
February 22, 2007 at 11:54 pm
WE OUTWORKED THE BEST TEAM IN THE NHL. SIMPLE AS THAT. SAMMY MAY HAVE HAD A HORRIFIC YEAR BUT HIS GOAL MAY BE THE ONE WE REMEMBER COME PLAYOFF TIME. WHAT A GAME. WHAT A EFFORT. NOW WE CAN CALL IT A WINNING STREAK
THE FIFTH GOAL AGIANST WAS A JOKE OF A GOAL BUT WE MANAGED TO FIGHT ADVERSITY. THE FIRST PENALTY AGAINST MARKOV WAS A JOKE AS WELL.
GO HABS. CANT WAIT FOR HIGGINS. A KOST IS A LITTLE OUT OF HIS LEAGUE. EVEN I CEN SHOOT DIRECTLY INTO A GOALIES PAD.
February 22, 2007 at 11:55 pm
U LIKING THIS ONE F R A N K…LOL
February 22, 2007 at 11:56 pm
kovalev not in line up means habs WIN!!!
GO HABS GO
February 22, 2007 at 11:57 pm
WOOOOOT!!!! BEST GAME HABS PLAYED IN A REALLY LONG TIME!!! Oh man that was breathtaking. And to think we could of beat em in regulation if Souray and Dandy hadn’t let goals in their own net lol…
I have faith again!!!
February 22, 2007 at 11:57 pm
KOSTEY HASN’T GOT HIS LEGS YET, HILL DO JUST FINE !!
February 22, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Imagine if these guys played a few games together and developed some chemistry. Streit played awsome on D. I have to take my foot out of my mouth now because all the players I suggest we trade scored tonight.
Wow….
We need to find a way to keep these guys flying! HALAK had great Shootout some thing we haven’t seen for a while! Awh they did not give up!
February 23, 2007 at 12:00 am
great comeback win! Gee, Forsberg really earned his keep tonight by falling on his shootout. Guess his skate still doesn’t fit right. I really felt good about this win because we habs didn’t quit. Imagine if we didn’t take all those PENALTIES? But we had to win this game because everyone else got at least 1 point. Higgins will play on Saturday; go beat the Islanders!
I think that Kostityn should play also. The kids are giving us good energy.
But what was Carbo thinking for his shootout guys? Kostityn, Plekanec,Perehzogin ? Go habs!
February 23, 2007 at 12:06 am
DID you see Muller and Carbo laughing it up,havn’t seen that in a while.
February 23, 2007 at 12:07 am
Best game for Samsonov. Who did he play with? Keep that line intact. We really didn’t need Souray tonight, not a factor. So it’s ok to trade him. We’ll manage without him. Ryder seems to have his confidence back, and Koivu too.
The team seems more energized. You know why? Because Kovalev isn’t there. I told you guys, Kovalev was the cancer. He play much better without him!
February 23, 2007 at 12:11 am
Yeah Plekanec was a plausible choice for shootout but the two others? Come on we all know Koivu is pretty much a sure bet so why not have him start? Anyways we got a pretty good goalie in Halak. He’s able to make the key saves and doesn’t break down after a couple of goals.
Keep Kovalev injured. What about Guillaume though? He’s been playing real bad for a while now. You think we was surrounded for too long with the oldies and it currepted his talent? lol…
You know what? Why make a trade right now? We got a team that can beat the best teams if it works hard AND, who says we won’t get screwed in a trade just like Nashville did LMAO!!!
February 23, 2007 at 12:18 am
HOLLY WOW!!!!!! WE’RE BACK.
February 23, 2007 at 12:23 am
Yeah, Latendresse doesn’t look good lately. Maybe he’s lost some confidence. Taking too many penalties, and costing us. he needs to make SMART plays, and just use his size and strength to his advantage.
February 23, 2007 at 1:01 am
Not sure Kovalev a cancer… but I think Halak was a confidence booster. We have a rejuvinated 1st line (which Kovalev did not play on) Our second line had not done squat until tonight without him. I do not think we need to point fingers at what was bad, when we have so many good things happening now. I think the whole team was energied by young hunger to win. Lapi started off that way and has come back from the stratusphere since, He’s played well do not get me wrong, but guys that stepped up tonight. We need to find a way to keep them up.
February 23, 2007 at 3:28 am
Take a deep breathe. Next three games against the Isles, leafs and rangers. ABby has to start at least one if not two.
February 23, 2007 at 3:29 am
ANyone else notice our shots against in the last 10 games have been well below 30 on average. 32 tonight but that included OT and well the top team in the league.
Lindy Ruff is a little baby. Just thought I would add that in. I say screw both teams. WHo cares.
February 23, 2007 at 4:00 am
What a win I can’t believe it 3 in a row?
That’s the Samsonov I thought we were getting, awesome!
I love Souray, but business is business.
What trade I would love to make:
Mat Carle and Steve Bernier (or Pavelski) FOR Souray and Perezhogin
(of course sign Souray in the offseason and move that pilon called Rivet)
Either way we must be sellers & buyers come trade dead line.
February 23, 2007 at 10:56 am
Maybe Samsonov and Kovalev can’t co-exist as players (not teammmates) on the same team, they’ve got to be the go-to-guy and either or with that style of player. Dunno.
All’s I know is the Habs are making some on this blog look like whining little babies.
February 23, 2007 at 11:16 am
I love it when these underachieving ******** like Johnson and Samsonov prove me wrong. I guess there is something that Gainey saw in these guys, but why are they absent from view the rest of the year? Why do we pay them so much for just one or two goals?
Yes we are and have been whining little babies, but hey didn’t Carbo bench these ******** too? I’d like to see your reply to that.
Even the media noticed that something is wrong with the habs.
February 23, 2007 at 11:33 am
Habs no. 1 and Josh:
Josh you are just a wild crazy man, I love your stuff. You need help man, but keep posting.
But habs no. 1 is pretty clever, and pretty much right in everything he writes.
Keep going both of you, this is great fun.
Cheers
February 23, 2007 at 11:48 am
josh you’re a tough love kind of fan, maybe you oughta coach.
February 23, 2007 at 11:54 am
Long winded but….
Gazette Reports – Pitt showing interested in Rivet… Could we send him to a possible Eastern team with a possible playoff match-up? Do we take what we can get and free up some room for some youngsters?
Rivet and Higgins are projected to be back in the line-up Saturday and Kovalev, I am sure will want to get back into action soon. Carbo will once again be tested, but this time because players are doing well, instead of missing assignments.
The fact is I doubt he’ll sit Kovalev, nor would I want him too (unless he defies Carbo’s authority)! His talent and tempo control are an valuable asset in a grueling night after night playoff atmosphere. Many believe Nashvilles acquisition of Forsberg was to add this particular tempo setting dynamic to a talented but one dimensional team. Forsberg may still get feet wet but they’ll be better with him. I think now that Montreal players are getting in front of the Net the team’s production will benefit especially a Kovalev type player. He is also the teams’ best shoot-out player, which undoubtedly helps any team ask Forsberg… Anyway that is one rooster player to be removed.
Rivet return? No Question, a player that loves Montreal and the Fans. Not playing as well as players such as Streit which I believe better compliments Souray as his wing man, possess a better sense to when to jump into an offensive rush, faster, and has a more lethal shooting capability. But can we deal him or fit him into the system remains to be seen?
Higgins is probably a no brainer to most and will be back in the line-up!
Who goes? Who stays? Who Knows?
What would you do?
Milroy – he’ll probably be the 1st casualty and will go back to Hamilton with Higgins return. He’s got good nose for the net but has not shown the confidence needed to play at top level. I think he be on this team because Carbo openly said he likes him, but still a little timid to secure a roster spot.
Kosti will probably get another opportunity to prove his existence with Kovalev out and our need for another forward. His size and energy was a breath of fresh air we needed after giving up an early lead. Hopefully he can establish a scoring sense, to gain a much needed respect currently lacking on the second line.
Halak will remain in net until he plays bad. Hopefully til summer!
Murray with his work ethic has re-emerged from the press box, but probably does not have the talent to remain on full-time.
Laps probably remain on 4th line and develop into a Bonk type player, with an agitation role to add. He also needs to plant himself in front of the Net. A habit I have been noticing is that he likes his outside corner shot emerging into the offensive zone. His shot is not a high percentage shot and usually he’s leading the rush, so no possibilities for rebounds. Needs to learn to stop the rush, establish the zone, and wait for his wing men to join him, and then go to the Net!
Laten, has struggled as of late and may be feeling the pressure of his young Hamilton friends looking find a piece of the Hab pie. He does not use his size to his advantage and has begun playing like a small stick handling floater, and frustration has led him to damaging penalties. He is highly talented and is a future star. Needs work through this rut and keep in Carbos good graces! Best way is to show some grit and get to the net. Leave the stick handling to guys like Koivu, Kovalev, Higgins, hate to say it Sammy, Perez…
Good luck Carbo!
Go Habs Go
February 23, 2007 at 11:55 am
are the pen’s interested in Rivet?
February 23, 2007 at 11:55 am
Kinda off topic but you wouldn’t believe the amount of whining by Leaf fan’s on TSN’s site about Fraser’s disallowed goal by Cromag Mats. The Hab’s have this sort of thing happen to them every single game and we don’t whine about it no where nearly as much as they do. And bringing up 1993???What the hell is up with that??Get over it.I just though it was hilarious nonetheless. Anyway’s great character win by the Hab’s and VERY nice to see the Laff’s lose!! GO HABS GO!!!
February 23, 2007 at 12:03 pm
I do not think I have seen Mike Johnson whine or get benched by Carbo!
February 23, 2007 at 12:06 pm
Rivet Rumor http://www.habsinsideout.com/
February 23, 2007 at 3:39 pm
I think they should not trad Sheldon Souray. He’s a very good hockey player. I think that Saku Koivu is the best hockey player. Sheldon is the second best. We usually get power plays. Thats when the other team scores. Sometimes we injure the other team and they get four minutes in the penalty box. They should be more careful. There not as bad as the team Boston. I hope they have a chance to win the cup and don’t trade Sheldon Souray.
February 23, 2007 at 3:42 pm
Getting rid of Souray would be a very bad move on the Habs part. How could you trade a 50 point D-man?. Get rid of those Russians……………
February 24, 2007 at 9:26 pm
keep souray!!!!
February 25, 2007 at 1:43 pm
Keep souray!! he has became an AMAZING player and he could really benifit the team in the future. I met him and not only is he a great player but he is really nice and takes time for his fans. So.. Why would you let an excellent player like that get away?!..
Keep Souray!!
GO HABS GO!!
February 25, 2007 at 9:10 pm
YOU GUYS ARE ALL DUMB. SOURAY WILL BE DEALT IF NOT HE LEAVES AT THE END OF THE SEASON HANDS DOWN. HE WANTS TO MOVE OUT WEST AND THEIRS NO WAY HES SIGNING A NEW CONTRACT. HABS WONT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS ANYWAYS SO WHY WOULD THEY NEED SOURAY.
GO SENS GO
February 26, 2007 at 10:42 am
here are my thoughts….Gainey traded Rivet becuz he wanted to make a cap room to sign Souray and Markov before the july 1st…he didnt want to lose Rivet for nothing on the july 1st so he gets Gorges and a 1st rounder… and the 1st rounder he gets from the sharks.he will use it to get a trade…..Bill Guerin for 1st rounder 3rd rounder and Perezhogin….who knows?? or maybe someother player who is available like Bertuzzi
GO HABS GO!
May 16, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Resign Souray I agree Let him finish his career in Montreal where it begain where he set some records, and with Briere coming which looks very possible at this point they will be a team tro look at and likley a Cup contending team