Your ideal Sheldon Souray Trade
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Six days remain to see whether or not Sheldon Souray will be traded.
So put yourselves in Bob Gainey’s shoes and make the deal.
Does Souray go alone and who do you go after in return?
The team with most heavy interest is rumored to be the Sharks who have just coincidentally recalled Steve Bernier.
Is it a Souray for Bernier swap? More players or picks involved? Or is Souray going somewhere altogether different?
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- Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
- stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
- goalie : Markov for Beauchemin - an injury prone d-man for an ;old timer'd-man. Beauchemin is NOT what the Habs need in my opinion. He is a HUGE defensive liability.
- goalie : Stuo 11 I'd make that trade with Oilers fast BUT I doubt the Oilers will make that. Two marginal d-men at the best for a switch of first round picks - not a chance .
- stuo11 : markov for beachemin?
- stuo11 : let moen go
- stuo11 : maybe try and get steve begin back
- stuo11 : we wouldve kicked out all other teams but pens, sens,
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February 22, 2007 at 10:26 pm
yeah crazy who would of thought murray would of helped us so much!
February 22, 2007 at 10:56 pm
Murray must be on speed or something.lol
February 22, 2007 at 10:59 pm
WOW …WOW….WOW…..WOW…..WOW….WOW….
February 22, 2007 at 11:05 pm
That was a garbage goal! Poor Souray.
Even Johnson is energized, man he must be on speed too! Go figure, I pick on him and he proves me wrong. *******! Hey we’ll take a win any way we can.
February 22, 2007 at 11:18 pm
There’s a better energy with the the new Habs, their taking on the best and making a game of it, its making me proud ,win or loose.
February 22, 2007 at 11:28 pm
OH MY GOD, I DON’T BELIEVE MY EYE’S RITE NOW
February 22, 2007 at 11:30 pm
THERE’S 1 POINT ,YAHOOOO
February 22, 2007 at 11:40 pm
The whole freeking teams on speed,hockey’s fun again,its shoot out time !!!!
February 22, 2007 at 11:48 pm
WOW. What a hockey game!! Even you guy’s have to be happy with the effort the Hab’s are showing tonight. What an exciting game.
SHOOTOUT WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 22, 2007 at 11:48 pm
HOLY
February 22, 2007 at 11:51 pm
trade KOVALEV !!!
February 22, 2007 at 11:54 pm
WE OUTWORKED THE BEST TEAM IN THE NHL. SIMPLE AS THAT. SAMMY MAY HAVE HAD A HORRIFIC YEAR BUT HIS GOAL MAY BE THE ONE WE REMEMBER COME PLAYOFF TIME. WHAT A GAME. WHAT A EFFORT. NOW WE CAN CALL IT A WINNING STREAK
THE FIFTH GOAL AGIANST WAS A JOKE OF A GOAL BUT WE MANAGED TO FIGHT ADVERSITY. THE FIRST PENALTY AGAINST MARKOV WAS A JOKE AS WELL.
GO HABS. CANT WAIT FOR HIGGINS. A KOST IS A LITTLE OUT OF HIS LEAGUE. EVEN I CEN SHOOT DIRECTLY INTO A GOALIES PAD.
February 22, 2007 at 11:55 pm
U LIKING THIS ONE F R A N K…LOL
February 22, 2007 at 11:56 pm
kovalev not in line up means habs WIN!!!
GO HABS GO
February 22, 2007 at 11:57 pm
WOOOOOT!!!! BEST GAME HABS PLAYED IN A REALLY LONG TIME!!! Oh man that was breathtaking. And to think we could of beat em in regulation if Souray and Dandy hadn’t let goals in their own net lol…
I have faith again!!!
February 22, 2007 at 11:57 pm
KOSTEY HASN’T GOT HIS LEGS YET, HILL DO JUST FINE !!
February 22, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Imagine if these guys played a few games together and developed some chemistry. Streit played awsome on D. I have to take my foot out of my mouth now because all the players I suggest we trade scored tonight.
Wow….
We need to find a way to keep these guys flying! HALAK had great Shootout some thing we haven’t seen for a while! Awh they did not give up!
February 23, 2007 at 12:00 am
great comeback win! Gee, Forsberg really earned his keep tonight by falling on his shootout. Guess his skate still doesn’t fit right. I really felt good about this win because we habs didn’t quit. Imagine if we didn’t take all those PENALTIES? But we had to win this game because everyone else got at least 1 point. Higgins will play on Saturday; go beat the Islanders!
I think that Kostityn should play also. The kids are giving us good energy.
But what was Carbo thinking for his shootout guys? Kostityn, Plekanec,Perehzogin ? Go habs!
February 23, 2007 at 12:06 am
DID you see Muller and Carbo laughing it up,havn’t seen that in a while.
February 23, 2007 at 12:07 am
Best game for Samsonov. Who did he play with? Keep that line intact. We really didn’t need Souray tonight, not a factor. So it’s ok to trade him. We’ll manage without him. Ryder seems to have his confidence back, and Koivu too.
The team seems more energized. You know why? Because Kovalev isn’t there. I told you guys, Kovalev was the cancer. He play much better without him!
February 23, 2007 at 12:11 am
Yeah Plekanec was a plausible choice for shootout but the two others? Come on we all know Koivu is pretty much a sure bet so why not have him start? Anyways we got a pretty good goalie in Halak. He’s able to make the key saves and doesn’t break down after a couple of goals.
Keep Kovalev injured. What about Guillaume though? He’s been playing real bad for a while now. You think we was surrounded for too long with the oldies and it currepted his talent? lol…
You know what? Why make a trade right now? We got a team that can beat the best teams if it works hard AND, who says we won’t get screwed in a trade just like Nashville did LMAO!!!
February 23, 2007 at 12:18 am
HOLLY WOW!!!!!! WE’RE BACK.
February 23, 2007 at 12:23 am
Yeah, Latendresse doesn’t look good lately. Maybe he’s lost some confidence. Taking too many penalties, and costing us. he needs to make SMART plays, and just use his size and strength to his advantage.
February 23, 2007 at 1:01 am
Not sure Kovalev a cancer… but I think Halak was a confidence booster. We have a rejuvinated 1st line (which Kovalev did not play on) Our second line had not done squat until tonight without him. I do not think we need to point fingers at what was bad, when we have so many good things happening now. I think the whole team was energied by young hunger to win. Lapi started off that way and has come back from the stratusphere since, He’s played well do not get me wrong, but guys that stepped up tonight. We need to find a way to keep them up.
February 23, 2007 at 3:28 am
Take a deep breathe. Next three games against the Isles, leafs and rangers. ABby has to start at least one if not two.
February 23, 2007 at 3:29 am
ANyone else notice our shots against in the last 10 games have been well below 30 on average. 32 tonight but that included OT and well the top team in the league.
Lindy Ruff is a little baby. Just thought I would add that in. I say screw both teams. WHo cares.
February 23, 2007 at 4:00 am
What a win I can’t believe it 3 in a row?
That’s the Samsonov I thought we were getting, awesome!
I love Souray, but business is business.
What trade I would love to make:
Mat Carle and Steve Bernier (or Pavelski) FOR Souray and Perezhogin
(of course sign Souray in the offseason and move that pilon called Rivet)
Either way we must be sellers & buyers come trade dead line.
February 23, 2007 at 10:56 am
Maybe Samsonov and Kovalev can’t co-exist as players (not teammmates) on the same team, they’ve got to be the go-to-guy and either or with that style of player. Dunno.
All’s I know is the Habs are making some on this blog look like whining little babies.
February 23, 2007 at 11:16 am
I love it when these underachieving ******** like Johnson and Samsonov prove me wrong. I guess there is something that Gainey saw in these guys, but why are they absent from view the rest of the year? Why do we pay them so much for just one or two goals?
Yes we are and have been whining little babies, but hey didn’t Carbo bench these ******** too? I’d like to see your reply to that.
Even the media noticed that something is wrong with the habs.
February 23, 2007 at 11:33 am
Habs no. 1 and Josh:
Josh you are just a wild crazy man, I love your stuff. You need help man, but keep posting.
But habs no. 1 is pretty clever, and pretty much right in everything he writes.
Keep going both of you, this is great fun.
Cheers
February 23, 2007 at 11:48 am
josh you’re a tough love kind of fan, maybe you oughta coach.
February 23, 2007 at 11:54 am
Long winded but….
Gazette Reports – Pitt showing interested in Rivet… Could we send him to a possible Eastern team with a possible playoff match-up? Do we take what we can get and free up some room for some youngsters?
Rivet and Higgins are projected to be back in the line-up Saturday and Kovalev, I am sure will want to get back into action soon. Carbo will once again be tested, but this time because players are doing well, instead of missing assignments.
The fact is I doubt he’ll sit Kovalev, nor would I want him too (unless he defies Carbo’s authority)! His talent and tempo control are an valuable asset in a grueling night after night playoff atmosphere. Many believe Nashvilles acquisition of Forsberg was to add this particular tempo setting dynamic to a talented but one dimensional team. Forsberg may still get feet wet but they’ll be better with him. I think now that Montreal players are getting in front of the Net the team’s production will benefit especially a Kovalev type player. He is also the teams’ best shoot-out player, which undoubtedly helps any team ask Forsberg… Anyway that is one rooster player to be removed.
Rivet return? No Question, a player that loves Montreal and the Fans. Not playing as well as players such as Streit which I believe better compliments Souray as his wing man, possess a better sense to when to jump into an offensive rush, faster, and has a more lethal shooting capability. But can we deal him or fit him into the system remains to be seen?
Higgins is probably a no brainer to most and will be back in the line-up!
Who goes? Who stays? Who Knows?
What would you do?
Milroy – he’ll probably be the 1st casualty and will go back to Hamilton with Higgins return. He’s got good nose for the net but has not shown the confidence needed to play at top level. I think he be on this team because Carbo openly said he likes him, but still a little timid to secure a roster spot.
Kosti will probably get another opportunity to prove his existence with Kovalev out and our need for another forward. His size and energy was a breath of fresh air we needed after giving up an early lead. Hopefully he can establish a scoring sense, to gain a much needed respect currently lacking on the second line.
Halak will remain in net until he plays bad. Hopefully til summer!
Murray with his work ethic has re-emerged from the press box, but probably does not have the talent to remain on full-time.
Laps probably remain on 4th line and develop into a Bonk type player, with an agitation role to add. He also needs to plant himself in front of the Net. A habit I have been noticing is that he likes his outside corner shot emerging into the offensive zone. His shot is not a high percentage shot and usually he’s leading the rush, so no possibilities for rebounds. Needs to learn to stop the rush, establish the zone, and wait for his wing men to join him, and then go to the Net!
Laten, has struggled as of late and may be feeling the pressure of his young Hamilton friends looking find a piece of the Hab pie. He does not use his size to his advantage and has begun playing like a small stick handling floater, and frustration has led him to damaging penalties. He is highly talented and is a future star. Needs work through this rut and keep in Carbos good graces! Best way is to show some grit and get to the net. Leave the stick handling to guys like Koivu, Kovalev, Higgins, hate to say it Sammy, Perez…
Good luck Carbo!
Go Habs Go
February 23, 2007 at 11:55 am
are the pen’s interested in Rivet?
February 23, 2007 at 11:55 am
Kinda off topic but you wouldn’t believe the amount of whining by Leaf fan’s on TSN’s site about Fraser’s disallowed goal by Cromag Mats. The Hab’s have this sort of thing happen to them every single game and we don’t whine about it no where nearly as much as they do. And bringing up 1993???What the hell is up with that??Get over it.I just though it was hilarious nonetheless. Anyway’s great character win by the Hab’s and VERY nice to see the Laff’s lose!! GO HABS GO!!!
February 23, 2007 at 12:03 pm
I do not think I have seen Mike Johnson whine or get benched by Carbo!
February 23, 2007 at 12:06 pm
Rivet Rumor http://www.habsinsideout.com/
February 23, 2007 at 3:39 pm
I think they should not trad Sheldon Souray. He’s a very good hockey player. I think that Saku Koivu is the best hockey player. Sheldon is the second best. We usually get power plays. Thats when the other team scores. Sometimes we injure the other team and they get four minutes in the penalty box. They should be more careful. There not as bad as the team Boston. I hope they have a chance to win the cup and don’t trade Sheldon Souray.
February 23, 2007 at 3:42 pm
Getting rid of Souray would be a very bad move on the Habs part. How could you trade a 50 point D-man?. Get rid of those Russians……………
February 24, 2007 at 9:26 pm
keep souray!!!!
February 25, 2007 at 1:43 pm
Keep souray!! he has became an AMAZING player and he could really benifit the team in the future. I met him and not only is he a great player but he is really nice and takes time for his fans. So.. Why would you let an excellent player like that get away?!..
Keep Souray!!
GO HABS GO!!
February 25, 2007 at 9:10 pm
YOU GUYS ARE ALL DUMB. SOURAY WILL BE DEALT IF NOT HE LEAVES AT THE END OF THE SEASON HANDS DOWN. HE WANTS TO MOVE OUT WEST AND THEIRS NO WAY HES SIGNING A NEW CONTRACT. HABS WONT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS ANYWAYS SO WHY WOULD THEY NEED SOURAY.
GO SENS GO
February 26, 2007 at 10:42 am
here are my thoughts….Gainey traded Rivet becuz he wanted to make a cap room to sign Souray and Markov before the july 1st…he didnt want to lose Rivet for nothing on the july 1st so he gets Gorges and a 1st rounder… and the 1st rounder he gets from the sharks.he will use it to get a trade…..Bill Guerin for 1st rounder 3rd rounder and Perezhogin….who knows?? or maybe someother player who is available like Bertuzzi
GO HABS GO!
May 16, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Resign Souray I agree Let him finish his career in Montreal where it begain where he set some records, and with Briere coming which looks very possible at this point they will be a team tro look at and likley a Cup contending team