Sheldon Souray signs with Edmonton Oilers
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The ex-hab has signed a contract with the Oilers and not with Anaheim, Los Angeles or San Jose as heavily speculated all year.
Souray wanted out of Montreal – signing in Edmonton for the same money Montreal offered. $27 Million over 5 years.
In doing so Souray an Alberta native returns to his home province and about as far away as you can get from the Montreal media.
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- goalie : In all fairness to AK...he has played more aggressively and has been more involved the last 5 games or so. Amazing what UFA does to a player. If we could get 25+ goals plus a consistent effort I would want him on my team. His biggest downside is his inconsistency to be involved in the play.
- Senet1 : Also the addition of Blunden and even Leblanc is not shy to throwing body checks. Also PK has been more aggressive lately
- Senet1 : That is partly because of the change in coaching styles and the addition of Bourque.
- Senet1 : If we kept Plekanec and Bourgue then we need a shooter on that line. So to me from a forward standpoint we need to add a goal scorer, but one who goes to the net and is not knocked around. To me based on our offence this year that is the most needed position to fill on our forward lines. When you consider that we got ride of Cammy, and if we trade Gionta and Gomez disappears we are no longer a small team. The team has more grit now than at the first of the year.
- Senet1 : So we have to add some muscle as well as skill to our second & third lines and upgrade our fourth line as well. I could see Leblanc moving in as the centre on the second line if we got something good Plekanecs, otherwise, he could play the wing on either the second or third line. Blunden seemed to score faily well in the AHL not sure if he has it in him but would like to seem him on a line with Eller and maybe Leblanc next year all three players like to use their bodies and therefore should be
- Senet1 : Not counting Markov if he plays. If we trade or let go of our UFA defenceman then we will need at least three D-men, I would like a good look at Nash to see if he can play at this level. If not he is gone, I do not think any of our other defensive prospects are ready quite yet. Our junior and college players should be coming on stream for Hamilton next year so we will get to see how much they have developed and whether any are ready for the big time.
- Senet1 : While I agree we have quite a few players that could be made available, I do not see a need to make wholesale changes only the necessary one. obviously Gomez, Gionta, AK46(if he will not sign) I keep our top line of Cole, Pacman and David. I keep Eller and Leblanc, Blunden, Bourque, probably Plecanec unless we can really improve on his positin. I keep PK, Emelin, Gorges, Diaz and Naturally Price. Probably Budaj. That basically gives us two functional line and two sets of defence, not counting
- goalie : Great to see Pacs gets su=ome success after the devestating dirty check last season that could have paralyzed him for life.
- goalie : Given ho the team has played this season one thing in our favor is that we pretty much need to clean house. Other than about 6-7 guys everyone else would be available in my mind.
- goalie : After how the tes]am has
- Avatar37 : Apparently only one offer for Carter on the low side so far, I think Montreal would be foolish not to investigate the possibility of a trade for him, and if there is low interest, the deal might be able to include moving Gomez. Gomez/Darche/Cam poli and a third round pick? Maybe not, but I'd be in serious talks with Columbus right about now.
- Avatar37 : «link»
- Avatar37 : for him had we held on to him until now and created a bidding war. There are more buyers than sellers currently on the market and it would have been the perfect time to have traded him.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - I'm not sure how we could have obtained more for Halak. We showcased him, everyone knew he was available for trade, and in the end, we took the best offer. Any asset is only worth what a purchaser will pay for it. The Halak trade wasn't like the Cammalleri trade where you had GMs afterwards saying they didn't even know he was on the market. The Halak trade was done properly, the Cammelleri trade was a knee-jerk panic move, and while my opinion is that we could have received more
- Avatar37 : I saw the game, the Islanders first goal came from a shot that was clearly above the height of the crossbar. How is it possible for a play to go to review where they have the advantage of mulitple camera angles and the ability to pause and they STILL get the call wrong?
- goalie : I agree don't get dilusional over our three game winning streak. Changes MUST be made. I am however, glad to see the effort being put forth by the players.
- Mats Naslund : I just went to capgeek to see who the Avalanche might be dealing for a rental - and I see they have only 6 players signed for next season!!! There are a couple young D men on that squad who are RFAs who would do very nicely next season.
- Mats Naslund : One thing I know - the 3 game winning streak had better not get PG thinking about holding onto guys for a PO run. Trade them, build the value and move on to next year.
- Mats Naslund : How about Max Pac though.. 21 goals and on pace for 65 points this year. That is absolutely monster for a guy at his age/experience and especially coming after a horrific injury. Huge cornerstone moving forward. On pace for 33 goals.. could he get 35?
- Mats Naslund : Didn't get to see it either - and while I don't really care about the win, I am very glad that Gomez scored so we don't have to endure all of the negativity in the media about him for the rest of the year. He still su@ks, but at least it won't be a topic every shift he takes.
- goalie : Didn't get to see the game at all but it's great to see Pacs get a hat trick and fpor Cole to be + 3. When was the last time this team won three games in a row? Great victory -looks like they're giving 100% effort!
- Senet1 : 4-2 win habs
- Senet1 : Gomez scores, Yea!!!
- goalie : As I said yesterday it will be interesting to see what our lame ass GM gets for players he ships out. Bourque is good and he'll help us but I still think we could have gotten more for him and for Halak when he was traded.
- Avatar37 : round those picks occur (probably 3rd).
- Avatar37 : An interesting article. If we slip to the 5th or 7th draft pick, a very interesting case could be made for drafting Galchenyuk. If we wind up with the second or third pick, I'm not sure who I'd draft, because clearly Yakupov is going to be drafted first overall. Our second round pick also becomes interesting, I know I'd take Vasilevski if he were still available. It will also be interesting to see if we can turn some of our veteran players (Moen, Gill, Campoli) into draft picks, and what
- Avatar37 : «link»
- Avatar37 : That is why PG should have waited on trading Cammalleri. Right now, there is a high demand for a top 6 forward, we could have gotten much more than Bourque in return. That isn't a knock against Bourque, but a knock against a knee-jerk reaction trade that didn't maximize our return on a top asset.
- Avatar37 : «link»
- Avatar37 : chips fall where they may. After all, the only difference between finishing 17th and 29th is how good a pick you get in the draft.
- Avatar37 : We currently sit in 26th place in the league. We are 15 points ahead of Columbus, it's safe to bet at this point they will place last. We are, however, only 4 points ahead of Edmonton so it's still wide open as to who is going to finish second last. I still think that it's time to sit the veterans, play the youth, let them get experience, and regroup for next year. I'm not suggesting deliberately tanking like the Penguins, but give all our young players lots of playing time and let the c
- Avatar37 : goalie - If it were not for the play of Cammalleri, we would never have made it out of round 1. Cammalleri played as big a part, if not bigger, than Halak did. Sure, Halak played well, but remember the team collapsed in front of him, making his job much easier. We had lots of blocked shots and the ones that got through were typically from the outside.
- Senet1 : Goalie you are absolutely right, of course the one thing we had the two previous years that won the games that we are losing this year was our power play. If you look at say 10 games that we should have won had we had a similar power play, again we would not be having these conversations. When your PP goes from first to last in the league that is a lot of goals.How many games have we lost this year by one goal. Again poor management who did not prepare for Markov's possible absence.
- goalie : I'll put it another way.... we need more players who are willing to get their noses dirty.
- goalie : Two years ago when our goaltending stole series adn our players suddenly scored the coaches / GM believed that that was our true team . Well time has proven that was not. Though I was very glad to see the Habs knock off some very good teams we were very fortunate. And fortunate that spring was spelled HALAK!
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July 12, 2007 at 5:06 pm
Well i hate to see souray gone but i wish him the best in edmonton.Thanks shelly we will all miss your big shot and leadership.
July 12, 2007 at 5:10 pm
I will miss Souray because of his cannon shot but he was a defensive liability and someone who you could go around as if he were a pylon. He wore the CH with pride and for that reason I will miss him but otherwise I am not very upset to see him leave. At least he went to another Canadian team and did not end up in L.A. or San Jose as speculated. Hey, he is an Alberta native so he knows all about cold weather, and it is even colder in Edmonton than it is in Montreal so he will feel right at home there. He obviously wanted to be closer to his family, that is why he went there. Sheldon, all the best to you in Edmonton and thank you for the past 6 seasons in a Montreal jersey.
Ziman
July 12, 2007 at 6:54 pm
Souray=TRAITOR!
July 12, 2007 at 8:24 pm
The Habs will miss Souray, his leadership and his shot. Though everyone keeps harping on his defense, I think its a red herring. Fact is that he was played too much 5-5 on a team that couldn’t score at even strength last year (despite Souray). Sure, he’s not the defenseman who stays at home all the time… a lot of those minuses were Sheldon trying to lead a rush and being stuck in between the opposition.
It will be interesting to see how he does next season, but I fully expect him to hav much more respectable +/- numbers, less ice time and 10 fewer goals (at least). That is, if he’s not hurt.
Bottom line, I’m very sad to see him go and wish him the best (though with that money, I can’t believe he really cares how we might feel!)
Hope the habs can find someone to score some goals or it will be an ugly season…
July 12, 2007 at 8:34 pm
Oilers fan here, I just have a question about his marital status. Is Sheldon married and if so, does she live with him?
After the Pronger fiasco, Oilers fans all over are wondering if his wife will like it there.
July 12, 2007 at 8:37 pm
Souray=overrated.
He won’t be missed as much as people think.
July 12, 2007 at 9:00 pm
Hockey is not a one-man show. Every player can leave and join.
Souray can earn a retired jersey at Edmonton easier than any other places.
Oiler (or Calgary) is his best choice for his destination: A native Albertan, and Métis, he has no competition to be honored and much more.
July 12, 2007 at 9:02 pm
I’m sure he’ll like the swinging social scene in Edmonton compared to Montreal. Edmonton is a real diverse city with a European feel and charm, located right here in North America!
Oh wait – that’s Montreal.
Edmonton is a small, boring, box-store littered city trapped in the middle of an endless frozen tundra.
Good luck with that Sheldon! Maybe with 27 million you can buy yourself a lifestyle!
And for those of you who think that he was a defensive liability – just think of what he’ll be like with a four year security belt before he has to score 20 goals again.
I think Lowe’s lost his mind. People complain about Gainey, but this guy is going batshit looney out there.
July 12, 2007 at 9:51 pm
What a joke. Souray is getting less than Hammerlicker? Anyone who feels Gainey should keep his job now should hang at Variety Village. With their intellectual peers.
July 12, 2007 at 10:29 pm
Leaving Montreal for Edmonton doesn’t say very much for Montreal. I have a feeling that the two teams’ fanbases will be neck and neck for the title of “most embarrassed fans” this year. Since, you know, the Coyotes and Panthers lost all hope years ago.
July 12, 2007 at 10:42 pm
Agreed nigelski.And isn’t it funny that he joins a team that won’t be playing the Habs this year.This is a show to all Habs fans ,the inside workings of the man and his loyalities,after all a lot of bloggers figured he would go to L.A . to be with his family.I don’t care what anybody say’s man,we just lost a great friend and for no ******* reason.W H A T A J O K E ! ! !
July 13, 2007 at 12:09 am
The reality is this…
if the season starts on a positive note and the expectations come to fruition, then things will go by the way side. I figure talk of Sheldon moving on, Samsonov shipping out, Rivet long gone, Bonk & Johnson departure…all will go without a double take….however, if the losing streak starts early then we can hear the grumblings!
Let’s face it, Kovalev’s got to pull his weight and make a difference. Ryder has to show up and hit the side of the barn more often. Higgins has got to play with more panache. Plekanez got to continue moving up the charts. Lapierre, Latendresse, Kostitsyn, have to put in greater effort with more results and consistency. The goalies have to play standing on their heads and steal games. I suspect there’s one more big trade to happen…Marleau, Lecavalier, Connely (kings), Gagne, (I would’ve wished for Smith)…just depends on what the bait might be.
in anticipation of the start of the season…with much angst!!!
July 13, 2007 at 12:37 am
Well, I am disappointed that Souray jumped ship, but then again Bob Gainey didn’t move fast enough. I love Gainey and have watched him for years. I just don’t think that Markov was worth 22 or 23 million. I think that could of been cut in half between a him and Souray. I felt Souray was very much an addition to the teama and a leader. Gainey should of made Souray a top priority as well, but I still love ya bob! Good luck Sheldon, you will be missed. You won’t win the Stanley cup going to Edmonton( wink).
July 13, 2007 at 3:08 am
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I’m sure he’ll like the swinging social scene in Edmonton compared to Montreal. Edmonton is a real diverse city with a
European feel and charm, located right here in North America!
Oh wait – that’s Montreal.
Edmonton is a small, boring, box-store littered city trapped in the middle of an endless frozen tundra.
Good luck with that Sheldon! Maybe with 27 million you can buy yourself a lifestyle!
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im not from edmonton, but ive heard great things about the city.
although there is speculation that players dont like the city rumours are rumours
and infact are ONLY rumours
players who have left the city, like georges laraque still have homes in the city and think of it as a great place to live & raise children
chris pronger- is an example that often comes up. but in interviews he has many times stated the reason for his departure was due to family reasons and that the playing in edmonton was one of the best years he ever had playing hockey (although, now that he was a cup with the ducks his ideas might have changed)
ive visited the city many times because family of mine lives there
they are a very united city. polite citizens everywhere you go
and not to mention a killer mall – the biggest in the world!!! its intense..
but anyways,
many players have raised families there and praise the city.
players like ryan smyth, messier and even the Great One ’99′
have been seen teared up and extremely disapointed to leave
not to mention just the city, but the fans.
i mean you have to admit, watching the oiler fans sing the national anthem
in the 2006 scf was something spectacular.
and you cant deny that the place is a young, vibrant town.
the city is a great art town and is very involved.
i wish souray the best of luck down there
we will sure miss his killer power play and leadership abilities but i think edmonton will be a great place for him
July 13, 2007 at 5:49 am
Mike (post #5) everything I’ve heard says his wife and children have moved to LA, and that they’re seperated.
July 13, 2007 at 9:31 am
POST #12..sam..”KOVALEV HAS GOT TO PULL HIS WEIGHT AND MAKE THE DIFFERENCE” Sam, this has been the problem with the Habs organisation for quite a while now,it’s there falure to replace the players who eats up the budjet the most and gives nothing in return.Ask yourself why is it Souray is gone and Kovalev is still here? W.T.F. !!! Kovalev fucked us again!!!
July 13, 2007 at 10:42 am
Big Souray fan. Sorry to see him go.
As a team, we won’t miss him. Others are ready to step into the leadership role – his offensive prowess and his defensive ineptness cancel each other out.
Good luck Sheldon!
July 13, 2007 at 2:09 pm
All the best Sheldon, we’ll miss your shot from the point and your willingness to drop your gloves and stick up for your smaller teammates. Wish we could have kept you in the red white and blue but that is the way the league works. Thanks for your years of service, they were fun to watch.
For all of you blaming Gainey… again, I can just shake my head. I guess some people need to have a whipping boy regardless of facts. He made the offer to Souray, Souray decided to test free agency. Knowing that, Gainey had to find a replacement, he couldn’t wait on the chance that Souray wouldn’t get the offers he was looking for and decide to take Gainey up on his offer. So, he signed Hamrlik. I don’t know if Hamrlik is a good replacement or not, we’ll have to wait and see him play a season.
July 13, 2007 at 7:05 pm
I had a feeling Souray would leave. He just didn’t seem genuine in his off-season interviews stating that he hoped he could work a deal with Montreal to stay. I loved watching his offense, but under Carbo’s defensive style of play, he’s just not a good fit. I think we’re better off replaced by Hamrlik.
Good luck Sheldon.
PS…atleast since he’s in Edmonton, we can still see him play every 2nd week or so on CBC’s late game.
July 14, 2007 at 1:52 am
To bad so sad……If he would have signed with MTL for the same contract I think we could have seen his number 44 in the bleachers. You gotta admit though he is living a dream, playing for home province pride. I’m sure we all would have done the same thing.
July 14, 2007 at 6:16 am
It is true that at present Souray´s defensive liabilities and offensive punch cancel eachother out, and as such, he is being overpaid.
The thing with Souray, though, is that he can be used in different ways than what has previously been done – in a way that highlights his abilities while reducing his liabilities.
He should certainly play the power play, or play when the team has the initiative, or when the team is badly in need of a goal and risks must be taken. However, his ice-time could be reduced when it comes to defending against the other teams top lines, penalty killings and such.
He could also be used as a 4th line offensive center that charges the net (he actually likes playing forward) in tandem with being a defenceman used mostly in offensive situation. This would make him a more versatile player, and would make better use of his capacities.
Id also not be surprised that his defensive game improve. After all, this can be taught and learned. Edmonton knows this is a weakness of his and can spend time preparing him better for defensive situations. Kevin Lowe, after all, even teaches his star forwards to block pucks.
So while he is being overpaid right now, it is still possible that he will develop into a more comlpete player than what he is now. Its also possible that he will just be slightly above mediocre forever. We will see.
July 14, 2007 at 7:49 am
Sheldon and his wife have reconciled. He and Ange and the girls will be movng to Edmonton over the course of the summer.
July 14, 2007 at 9:54 am
GREAT! GET THE **** OUT OF HAB’S COUNTRY U MONEY GRABBER, GO GET SCREWED IN THE DEFENSIVE ZONE! HAVE A NICE LIFE!
July 14, 2007 at 7:43 pm
Good luck Sheldon. You’ll need it in Edmonton. Nuff said.
July 15, 2007 at 8:33 am
DId anyone else see the OTR with spezza and Emery. THey pretty much made a joke out of Souray. ALthough he was beat pretty bad a few times I think his defensive shortcomings were greatly overhyped. However to trun down a 4 y/ 22 mil deal from the habs was a quick way to say he was never really interested in returning. I will miss his shot, leadership and toughness. HOwever its a business and 5.5 million is too much to pay for a guy who really never intended to stay from the start. ENOUGH SAID!
July 15, 2007 at 10:50 am
Being a great fan of Gainey, I hate to bring it up, but with the benefit of hindsight, it’s interesting that neither side seemed committed to being together once the season was done. Of course, I’m thinking of the fact that the Habs got nothing for him at the trading deadline (when they could at least have gotten a bag o’ pucks), which is about the same as what they got now…
Hmmmmm.
As I said earlier, Bob better have a great deal in the works or else we’re in for a tough year of defense winning games and lack of scoring losing them.
July 15, 2007 at 12:42 pm
One of my favorite CANADIENS HAS PASSED AWAY.John Ferguson,he was one tough s.o.b. !!!!Two memory’s in brief I”ll bring up about the man:1)I’ll never forget the time near the end of his career when he deeked around Bobby Orr and scored a beauty,man **** Irving was a freeking and everyone looked stuned,LOL.2)I THINK IT WAS EITHER THE STAR OR THE GAZETTE, when they ran a outline of John’s body,a chart showing all the breaks and such,an unreal amount of damage to his body and I think it said in the article he had more broken bone’s than non broken”Over a hundred”. That man gave it his all for the HABS and has set the bar to a very high standard of play,if you want to play hockey for Les Canadiens !!! Thank-you John Ferguson for some great child hood memorys,r.i.p. One more thing,with John and Ted Harris,no one messed with the Habs with out paying the piper,no one!!!
July 15, 2007 at 1:15 pm
There have been reports suggesting that Gainey has reached a 3 year deal with CanadianTire. They are to provide the habs with a bag of pucks every year. Gainey paid double the market price, but is confident that a necessity has been filled.
July 15, 2007 at 1:46 pm
# 25 Snake
Posted on July 15th, 2007 at 8:33 am. About ‘Sheldon Souray signs with Edmonton Oilers’.
DId anyone else see the OTR with spezza and Emery. THey pretty much made a joke out of Souray. ALthough he was beat pretty bad a few times I think his defensive shortcomings were greatly overhyped. However to trun down a 4 y/ 22 mil deal from the habs was a quick way to say he was never really interested in returning. I will miss his shot, leadership and toughness. HOwever its a business and 5.5 million is too much to pay for a guy who really never intended to stay from the start. ENOUGH SAID!
ya i watched OTR with Spezza and Emery and i didn’t see how they were making a joke of Souray, i guess i was watching a completely different show.
July 15, 2007 at 2:13 pm
What about giving Forsberg a 1 year deal. He is currently hurt and wouldnt be able to play until December or January, and therefore could come at a real good discount. Its a gamble, but it would get the tzeam excited. If he starts playing well in February and March he could help a lot in the playoffs.
And what about Ryder? When is his arbitration hearing? How much is he expected to get? 3 million?
July 15, 2007 at 2:59 pm
Guess you cant read between teh lines
July 16, 2007 at 2:09 am
Well Sheldon you went and done it! You refused a futher stay with the greatness of les habitants. How dare you leave the habs fans!
We loved you! Yes Sheldon you should of picked us over your family, your your two children and your wife. It didn’t matter that you were probally lonely, and wanting to be a GOOD father in having quality time with your children instead of access time, when you happened to be in town and on vacation.
ha ha ha ha ha. Good luck Sheldon and I agree with poster #13, you will be missed, but we undestand a man’s family is a man’s family. I would rather see you leave us and be a good father to your children then to stay and entertain us. However, the Stanley Cup will be won by Montreal before Edmonton. Hell I would just like to see the Stanley cup remain anywhere in Canada. Come on boys, lets take back our cup. The Americans are getting way to confortable with our Cup. Hockey is our game!
July 17, 2007 at 1:18 pm
some oiler fan said the oilers are gonna win the cup this year. LMFAO! I just hope they don’t come last place in the NHL. I like the oilers because they’re canadians but hey, give me a break.Oilers= Champs? not possible.
July 17, 2007 at 1:55 pm
# 31 Snake
Posted on July 15th, 2007 at 2:59 pm. About ‘Sheldon Souray signs with Edmonton Oilers’.
Guess you cant read between teh lines
no i can read between the lines just fine. your not reading between the lines your inventing stuff between the lines.
July 18, 2007 at 4:51 am
I try to be an optimist when it comes to the Habs but I can see no optimism in this coming season. At best Bob Gainey has basically the same team he had last year (Hamerlick for Sourey – Smolinski for Bonk – Kotsopolus for Johnson). Toronto finished ahead of Montreal and kept the same players with the addition of a quality goalie and a 40 goal scorer.Buffalo has lost major players but will still make the playoffs as will New Jersey.In order to justify re-building without making the playoffs, Bob Gainey should show his fans some respect by at least lowering his ticket prices considerably.I think this team could be looking at drafting in the top three next year if a major trade is not made for a bonifide point getter. 5 on 5 was brutal and no Sourey on the powerplay spells long season. Its great to be optimistic but we also have to be realistic.
July 18, 2007 at 7:59 am
Well, the young players are getting better and coming up. This should be a young and fast team.
Id give Carbo maybe a last chance until december. If we are not a top 5 or so teams in the eastern conference by then I’d fire him and bring a coach with a different style. Carbo is too much of a defensive coach, while this team’s players are probably more geared towards playing a fast attacking style.
July 18, 2007 at 11:27 am
Yo Yup,the way Gainey and Carbo have configured the Habs for next season makes for no offence ,regardless of if Carbo stays or not. Now some of you fans say this is going to be Kovalev’s break-out year,lol,or that Saku’s going to take the bull by the horns”one man show”lol,or watch out for Plecks and the rookies ??? or its Hammer time,lol,I’ll put my money’s on the young guys,Lats and Plecks will do better .But really ,there is no offence on this team so you can remove Carbo and put in an offence style coach,but what he going to do,pot him in himself?The Montreal Canadiens are an A.H.L.TEAM PLAYING IN THE N.H.L. Granted ,the pot has been stured but I wouldn’t get my hopes up.Should be interesting to watch till the Dplay puts you to sleep!!!
July 18, 2007 at 11:36 am
Xhabsfan;
There are many teams in this league that have no bonafide sniper and still manage to score by commitee and do well. WE may not have a 40 goal man but at the same time our system does not allow a player of Jason Blakes ability to have a break out season and score 40. HIggins, Pleks, Kovy and Ryder are all capable of scoring more but not under this system. Try not to be so darn sarcastic buddy. Live life.
July 18, 2007 at 4:44 pm
I’ll miss you Shelly!!! It’s nice that you are going home. All the best to you and your family.
July 18, 2007 at 4:48 pm
Even though I am a sabres fan I still like Shelly. WE WILL MISS U SHELLY.
July 23, 2007 at 1:00 pm
Sheldon Souray is still very much married to Angelica and they are all relocating to Edmonton in the fall. This comes from a very reliable source – his mother a coworker of my mother. This is not another Pronger or Nelander thing. Angelica always lived in LA as that is where the family has a home, Sheldon also lived there when he wasn’t on the road or in Montreal for games.
August 31, 2007 at 7:14 pm
yes!!! he’s gone he is to bad defensivly
(remeber the spezza goal)